[000:00:00;00] should we draw any parallels that russia, at a time when the whole world will be focused on a war in the middle east, will do something that will go beyond what the russian federation can do and beyond what the russian federation will be allowed to do do? no, you know, of course, that the potential of the russian federation is incomparable to the soviet union, especially if we are talking about the 50s and 60s, when the americans were afraid of the superiority of the soviet union in space. didn't know and were there, you remember that only after let's say so, when one of the officers handed over the game, it was found out that p'nkovsky's pinkovsky , it seems, was an exaggeration of the number, nuclear ammunition and ballistic missiles, and that the soviet economy and even the vaunted military-industrial complex cannot cope with the fact that

to increase this number, the russian federation from... are in much worse conditions than then, this is the first moment, the second moment, if we are talking about ukraine, then they are stuck here, they cannot do anything more than try on separate , let's say so, some areas have made some progress, of course they do can work below the line of direct invasion, direct conflict, and most likely they are, let's say, behind the terrorist attack that took place in the baltic between estonia. finland has a gas pipeline, which means that the relevant communications have been damaged, they can try to destabilize the situation in africa in order to put more pressure on the europeans, who have interests there, but most importantly, of course, with these waves of refugees, that is, they can do shit, here, but something serious is unlikely, and so they try to play this one diplomacy, most likely, the maximum bonus that they get will be

a little more oil... income, it is clear that when there are some, such conflicts in the middle east, and the economy is global, it still depends, to a large extent, on oil , this green transition has not yet taken place, of course, that this will affect prices, although on the other hand, such a player is somehow not very interested, so that against the background of a rather slow exit from the crisis, and covid and then about these, this confrontation that is taking place with united states, we we are waiting, of course, in november... xi jinping's meeting, if he goes to the united states with biden, and maybe they will normalize these relations, which have cooled down now and they, let's say, of course, they are an additional instability, and an additional factor that affects on all of us, that's why i don't think that russia can do something drastic, so dirty, but small things, of course, it's in their style, in the kegebi style, and actually,

given the resources they have. mr. oleksandr, general budanov assumes that these regional or local wars may become part of a larger global war. what will happen to you in the event of such a war, if it happens, this war awaits the world redistribution of spheres of influence, the creation of a multipolar, as putin always says and repeats it, a multipolar world. will there still be two poles, a conditional civilization and a conditional group of countries, which we refer to the group of autocratic countries, well , you know, this is a million dollar question, as they say, and by and large, you can distinguish such two schools, opinions on the theory of international politics, international relations, the first one says that

there will indeed be polarization and there will be two main poles , the united states will remain, so it has reduced its power, it cannot unimpededly influence the whole world and establish certain rules, and we see that the decline of the united states is happening, but it is not as fast and powerful as we would like in a picnic in tehran and in moscow , and of course there is the growth of china, and it shows its power, behaves more aggressively, and of course those plans what is he bears, they are quite dangerous for the world, because the third world war may start around taiwan. the second school, which i am a supporter of, actually says that the united states will reduce its ability to influence the whole world, it will concentrate on key regions for itself, instead, china will not be able to play the role of this superpower, because it is still a country , which is developing, because after all, this is a country that is extremely dependent on

technology and other, other plans. from more developed countries, primarily the united states states, and now coalition alliances are being created to restrain the development of the defense industry and, accordingly, the offensive potential, as well as high technologies, which are needed in order to earn the same big money that is needed for both defense and diplomacy and the spread of china's influence in the world, so most likely we will see in the next 5, 10, maybe 15 years, a re-fragmentation of our international system, when there will be middle powers that will play an important role in certain regions, and the united states itself, they will have more opportunities, that is, somewhere in them will be ... priority regions, for example, the same near east. obama announced the exit from the middle east, because he announced the pivot to asia in 2009 , because he thought that then first,

the united states thanks to this shelgas revolution, how is it shale gas, that you are independent, the united states is independent from of the middle east, and actually, everything is more or less normal there, of course these conflicts, they are not you but they definitely did not alarm so much, but china, its growing mission provoked everything more and more, shall we say, caution and the desire to counter this, and the actual withdrawal of the united states caused the stakes that we see now primarily in syria, and the arrival of the russian federation in the middle east, and then in africa, now the united states is coming back, and they will play a role there, try to be brokers, balance interests. its former allies or those allies that may return, like saudi arabia, by the way, it has lost quite a lot in this conflict, because,

let's say, negotiations were actually taking place, i don't i know how much it was the finish line, but for sure, the negotiations on the provision of security guarantees for saudi arabia , the sale of weapons, and on the other hand, the establishment of diplomatic relations, or rather the restoration of them with israel, were substantive, and as a bonus, for the arab world, it was some kind of compromise solution of the palestinian issue, it is now clear that the palestinians were primarily affected by this conflict, because a large number of them died , or will die, and there will definitely be no prospects for peace for the next five, or however many years, and of course, what we now see how europeans, others curtail aid to the palestinian authority, because they see that this money was not used for welfare, not for development, so that, in fact, hatred of the state of israel was converted into such attacks, but of course there are other victims, countries and their interests, here, but this is probably the most important thing. mr. oleksandr, we can see that during the last

five days, vladimir putin is preparing himself for the role of a peacemaker in the middle east, or rather, he is doing everything so that the representatives of iraq or there iran talk about that volodymyr. volodymyrovych, without your participation, there is no way that you must intervene in this conflict, and here is putin, who in the 1990s creates conflicts and then comes to defuse them, well, roughly the same scheme, as you estimate here is putin's attempt to return to the top political league of the world, after what is happening against the background of what is happening in ukraine, and of course his... prospects in general, what to articulate or offer something, including washington? well, you know, he is like condensed water, he can to tell what you want, and again, he does not have such a potential that he can

convert and project, that is , project his power to some other regions, he can do something precisely, well , for example, how wagner helped to make these state rebellions in africa. to the countries of the sahel region, that is, they can do it, send killers to train other killers, so that they seize power, and of course, they want to pump out, pump out, excuse me, resources, from there, in fact , colonial policy, diamonds, oil, gas, others, minerals, something more technological, russia is not capable of doing, in the middle east as well, yes, of course, they are in the opec+ format, but this is such a, you know, union, very conditional. he, let's just say, unites the egoists in a certain sense and, above all, saudi arabia, which has had rather cool relations with the united states since the murder of the journalist khashoggi, and of course,

critics of the way they conduct this military operation in yemen, and until things are the same hussites, that is, supported by iran, that is, in fact iran is trying to create such a complete platform, children, against... its main opponents, first of all, of course, israel and hezbollah, which means that hamas supports the houthis and other, let's say, groups, of course. russia is not a player here, it can get some dividends, it can try to shake things up, that is, in social media, propaganda, some of its satellites, or some other things, and of course, it can provide weapons, intelligence, by the way, what budanov said, i honestly wasn't looking for this one information that buzimta literally before the day of this, let's say, terrorist attacks, in fact, changed the orbit from one of the... of the intelligence satellites of the russian federation, in order to transmit this

information to iran, and accordingly, it would definitely have gotten into the hands of terrorists, so they are definitely mediated, there are such signals, but there is no clear involvement, there is definitely no potential. thank you, mr. oleksandr, for the conversation, it was oleksandr khara, a diplomat, a person who knows everything, or almost everything, about foreign policy, and friends, let me remind you that we we are working live on the channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, do not hesitate, please like this video so that it can be promoted in youtube trends, and participate in our survey, today we ask you about the following: who do you trust the most options for answers to the president, the armed forces of ukraine, the church, volunteers, or your option, please write in the comments below this video, it is important for us to know your opinion. further we are in touch... andrii dyschitsia, politician, diplomat, former

acting minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014, mr. andrii, good evening, i am glad to see you on our broadcast, good evening, i congratulate you, mr. andrii, you are a diplomat with almost 30 years of diplomatic experience, and it is clear that during the last two years we see how international law is ignored, we see where force and weapons are considered the main tool in any discussions, in your opinion, what and how diplomacy decides today ? well, i will say that it is also impossible to do without diplomacy now, because diplomacy, first of all, decides, if we are talking about ukrainian diplomacy, solves issues that are necessary for first of all providing ukraine with weapons and

ammunition, but also defending ukraine's interests on the international stage arena and promotion of ukraine's interests and promotion of ukraine's interests. now, just a few hours ago, the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe recognized the holodomor as genocide, and i remember how many years ukrainian diplomacy worked to ensure that it happened, it was a joint effort of politicians, diplomats, parliaments, first of all, but this is actually what diplomacy does, and it is one direction and another direction, i think you are right that now some states are showing their strength by means of aggression, but without diplomats it will not be possible to end these conflicts, it will not be possible to end the war, it will not be possible to hold peace... negotiations, and any

war ends one way or another, with negotiations and ends with some kind of peace treaty or treaty, and here actually the role in diplomacy will be very significant. general budanov says that a number of regional wars are part of a mosaic of a great global war, well, at least that's how he sees it, that the conflicts that are now on the planet, they... will grow, as a result , it will create a global war in the world, the third world war, as i understand it, well, in general budanov's understanding, do you agree with such a statement and is it clear to you where the conflicts that concern two or three states there end, for example, as in the middle east, or the conflict between russia and ukraine, and where is she, where are these conflicts.

are moving into global ones, well, look, it seems to me that after all, we are already in a state of global war, because what is happening in ukraine is this, and this level of support and involvement of other states in supporting ukraine, countering russian aggression , well, it shows the scale, actually, of this, if you can, of this war er and er the actual involvement of other states, their inclusion, obviously not directly, but through the provision of weapons to ukraine. this is also their involvement in such a global uh, global conflict, if you can to say that there is no war yet, but what is happening in other regions of the world is what is happening in israel, in others, let's say

in syria or in other points of it, hot spots, as they were once called in the space of the soviet union, in in all these conflicts, moscow is interested, and i think that until we defeat russia, until we defeat the kremlin, the danger of this global world war will always exist, so i would say that we have a fateful task before ukraine, victory in russia, the victory of russia means a reduction in tension on a global scale, well, that is, russia is one of the important elements of destabilization in the world and it uses its resources to the full extent, it is meant in the middle east and in the conflict between north and south korea, and on the african continent and at any other point where a new fire could break out, i

understand correctly, absolutely right, absolutely right, that's all we're seeing, all those conflicts, all these tensions that arise in certain... regions in the world, it was provoked by russia's activity or activity. russia is interested in keeping this tension, and it is interested in playing some role in the international arena, as they think, further, it is a leading role, although it has not been there for a long time, but nevertheless, they are creating it tensions, and thus creating ... and even now, let's say, this example, in addition to such military tensions, the issue of food supply, russia is creating this food crisis in the world, and thus

trying to play, some important role on international arena, thereby humiliating other countries, which or forcing other countries to be dependent only on russia, so if we deal with russia, which is the source of evil, then we will automatically solve many problems and conflicts on a global scale. against the background of what is happening now in israel, and in the middle east in general, putin is actively promoting his role as a peacemaker in the palestinian-israeli conflict, he says that the situation in the middle east is now as acute as anywhere in the world, let's hear what he said, we have a very stable relationship with israel, we have friendly relations with palestine for ten years , our friends know this, and russia, in my opinion, could also make its own contribution to this settlement process, but

this sharpness is such that, in my opinion, we don’t see anything like that anywhere, before that, putin was in the role of... an exiled president, i.e. a person who was not given a hand and with whom no one wants to communicate, now for the last five days we see active promotion of this theses that putin is a peacemaker, that russia can, russia will do, and russia together with iran, russia together with syria, and a lot depends on them, that in the middle east, what will you do, or in what way, putin can offer himself to the world leaders from whose cages he flew, simply, what can he now offer the world and in what way will the world react to the power of the peacemaker, in the pubic area of ​​the peacemaker putin? well, first of all, i think that putin should not be allowed to settle any

conflict, chitin or any of the leaders russians, because actually russia... as we said a little earlier, is interested in the fact that this conflict continues to exist, whether it is a conflict in the middle east between israel and hamas, or palestine, whether it is a conflict in nagorno-karabakh, whether it is a conflict in transnistria or a conflict in syria, they are always interested in keeping it alive all the time, thus having the opportunity and important influence on one side and the other. but what, it seems to me, putin wants to achieve, trying, trying, offering himself for the role peacemaker, it will appear again on the international arena, appear again among world leaders and show that without russia it will not

be possible to cope with such a conflict, and i do not exclude at all that russia itself was interested in provoking such a conflict, and we know that the leaders of hamas visited moscow quite often recently, recently, and therefore it could be absolutely. interested in, actually, due to this conflict, to return to the international arena again, er, but i think that history has already shown, and of course, er, russia's aggression or war against ukraine, after all, has taught world leaders not to trust russia, not to trust putin, and they will not agree to this proposal, if we are talking about the situation with... mr. andriy, today vladimir putin went on a foreign visit for the first time.

kyrgyzstan, and it is considered a foreign visit, but for the first time after the international criminal court issued a warrant for his arrest. kyrgyzstan has not ratified the rome statute and neither has beijing, well china has not ratified the rome statute, so next week putin will be in china, with kyrgyzstan everything is clear, the leaders of the cis and putin will be there, putin needs some support from the closest circle of former leaders of former post-soviet countries, of course, in the case of china, on the eve, especially xi jinping's visit to the united states of america and negotiations with biden, in your opinion, to what extent is putin able to influence xi jinping in this situation or... at least offer him something, because it is clear that biden will sway the chinese leader to his side, especially on many

issues in us-china relations, which require a personal conversation between the two leaders? well look, it seems to me that after all, uh, china is changing its position with regard to russian russian aggression in ukraine, although still ... remains quite cautious, and i think that this caution from china is related actually with the question of taiwan and the reluctance to escalate relations further with the united states, but putin saw that after the visit of st. zemping to moscow, in fact, china, when everyone in russia expected that china would take their side, china did not take such

unequivocal position, and i think that this is already progress and a step in the good direction, in the direction of its support, er, maybe not directly and not immediately of ukraine, but the support of those efforts on it, to press further, press further on... russia to withdraw its troops from ukraine, they, and i think that now putin is actually doing this in order to try to restrain china's position and keep them on his side as much as possible, that's exactly why this activity in relation to, beijing on the part of, putin, eh, nevertheless, well, after all, putin remains quite isolated in the international arena, and these

visits of his, well, there, let's say to kyrgyzstan, are still more of a formality than some official international visit, which, well, was perceived as once, as the leader of the state, which has influence...' world politics, now it looks more like a regional visit with all due respect to kyrgyzstan, of course, but, mr. andriy, at the same time, russia is going to withdraw its ratification of the comprehensive nuclear-test-ban treaty, as early as october 5 volodymyr putin proposed it, the state duma is sure to do it, because it is only a formality, and putin articulates. foreign policy of the russian federation, does this mean that in case of withdrawal of ratification

of the comprehensive nuclear-test-ban treaty, russia immediately. will start nuclear tests in order to show the power of the same china, i think that russia will continue to blackmail the world with a nuclear threat and the use of nuclear weapons, and these statements about withdrawing from the nuclear weapons test treaty, and attempts to certain russian statements politicians that russia can use nuclear weapons, i think that this is still blackmail, that actually in russia they understand how tragic and catastrophic the consequences can be for russia itself if it uses nuclear weapons, first of all, it is for sure will turn away from russia even those countries that still more or less maintain contacts with

it, including china and india, and this will definitely cause a reaction from the united states and the european union, and, for sure , the measures will be much tougher , against russia, are accepted than those that are at the moment, therefore, i think that russia understands this and is blackmailing it, but there is no need to be afraid of this blackmail and it is necessary to continue to put pressure on russia. so much so as to weaken it in the confrontation with ukraine. mr. andriy, putin is always raising the stakes and obviously nuclear weapons are the highest stake he has left, now , in your opinion, how to knock out this argument and this highest stake of putin so that it is not the same as he constantly blackmails both us and the world. i think the western world should

clearly say that bu. what will be the consequences of in the event that russia tries to use nuclear weapons, and it should be a warning, it should not be after the fact that they use these weapons, although i do not believe that they will, but it should be shown that there will be, what the consequences will be, and show that we are not afraid of these nuclear weapons, and then, then, uh, putin and the kremlin will stop using this... card, against the west. thank you, mr. andriy, for the conversation, it was andriy deshchytsia, diplomat, former head of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014. friends, we are working live on telekanaluso, as well as on ours platforms on youtube and on facebook, for those who are currently watching us on youtube , please like this video so that it will be trending on youtube, and take part in our vote,

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