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and nastya lipunova. deportation of children is a component of the crime of genocide, so i would like to note that if you personally know about any crime against a child, in particular about abduction or deportation, do not remain indifferent and immediately report it to the police, or report it to our website stopcrime.ua . you can even do it anonymously. and the very end, please go to the website of the children's tracing service. all these boys and girls are missing, so if you recognize any of them, please inform us on the hotline at the short number 1163. calls from all mobile operators in ukraine are free. we have created a resource through which you can report any crime against a child, in any city, at any time, just go to the site and report, and we will launch all possible mechanisms to punish the criminal. stopprime ua.
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congratulations. last saturday, hamas militants invaded israeli settlements. they killed and kidnapped military personnel, but even more local civilians. the terrorists published some videos of their atrocities on social networks, and these videos were so terrible that when they were shown at the nato meetings, actually to the ministers of other countries, some of them simply said that they had never seen anything like this before, and well, it's just really terrible. in response, israel launched a military operation to remove the fighters, the militants, and already hit their locations in the gaza strip, but here we are, you know, faced with such a story:
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whether we like it or not, we are drawing certain parallels with the war that is happening now here in our country, when russia attacked ukraine, and , in fact, with what information operations it is accompanied, in more detail about how russian propaganda reacted to all this, how they formed their narrative regarding these strikes by hamas on israel, i will tell tomorrow, today. i want to focus rather on some such aspects of this information war, which is similar to our moments, and first of all i want to tell you that it is very impressive that russian propagandists, they could say anything about what it happened, exactly how these hamas fighters attacked and how they did it
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they killed the civilian population, but you know what was not there, there was no such sincere, well, sincere empathy with the victims, this was not there at all, and rather there was such a reaction, which i will now show you margarita simonyan, she was actually very typical for all the russian propaganda, i am like any normal person. pictures of atrocities are horrifying, on the other hand, people who have been dying for years under israeli bombs, who got their state that way, it is difficult for us to judge what is in their minds, so i will leave all this to the judgment of history and here, someone will probably object to me, well wait, that morning, it was palestine that attacked israel, it kidnapped peaceful people, killed peaceful people. for a second, who attacked
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russian donbas, he attacked himself, what did he attack? well, there is no russian donbass, you know, it’s something like that, how does something like that give out, you know, with a thief on it, a hat is on fire, why would ukraine even seem to be there, well, nothing, yes, but and here they managed to insert it, as you can see, well, of course we are there, we don't like all of them pictures, but you know all this talk about the fact that they bombed donbas for 8 years, and here they bombed palestine for 8 years, or how many years, and again the same story, very, very similar, and even, you know, putin's speech, which was about this, he is generally, i believe, he is not just so delusional, he is generally extremely cynical, this is a small fragment that, well, what is it called, here is russia trying to show. to say that she seems
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to be on the wrong side, but even, i don't know, it's obvious that you know it, it's full of nonsense, no matter the level of aggravation on both sides. after all, it is necessary to strive to minimize or reduce to zero, to a minimum, losses among the civilian population, among women, children, old people, if men have decided to fight among themselves, let them fight among themselves, leave children and women alone, well, i would really like to say this to the russian troops , to leave everyone alone, but when this is said by a person who arranges mass murders of ukrainians, and there is something babbling about... leave the children alone, who is he talking to anyway? which other side was killing children there, now, specifically, starting from october 7 , which, it was only one side, the other did not do it, well, in the end, there is also a different reaction
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to how russia stands over the conflict, this is also , again from the same story, when they try to twist everything , to present the situation, so everything is not... you know, they are playing with this story, when everything is not ambiguous again, there are some different sides, he said this morning in on the air with our colleague who lives in the gas sector, and he says: you see what the situation is it started on saturday, and we have been in a terrible blockade for more than 10 years, we have had no medicines for more than 10 years, except for the simplest ones, since 2000 the situation is generally terrifying, that is... people find themselves in a terrible situation, which in no way justifies the terrifying crimes that were committed this saturday on the land of israel, our position is self-considered, but i cannot imagine a russian person who could justify the atrocity
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against women and children, on the one hand, on the other hand, this is not in our cultural code, still in our cultural dostoyevsky's child's tears, well, you even know that, it's just that it makes you immediately hear it, the more so, i can remind him of this russian person, it's not benzey, who literally the other day is the representative of russia at the un, who is simply about murder, mass murder of people , in the village of groza near kupyansk, told about the fact that these were militants, and he was the one who justified the killing of civilians, this is a trussian man whom solovyov cannot imagine, suddenly, look at the debension. as you know, at the time of the attack , the funeral of one of them was taking place there high-ranking ukrainian nationalists. of course, many of his accomplices, neo-nazis, participated in them. it is no coincidence that in the pictures published on social networks immediately after the attack, almost all the body pictures belong to men
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of draft age. such situations have already been encountered more than once, the kyiv regime wrings its hands for those killed as a result of attacks on hotels, hostels, cafes, and shops. and then a large number of obituaries appeared, military foreign mercenaries, such a coincidence, we cannot rule it out, что также буду с грозой, and here are the russians, the same people who killed absolutely peaceful residents in the thunderstorm who came to the memorial service, there are children, old people, women, a whole crowd, whom they now all call high-ranking nazis, and here you are the cemetery where these plots are buried just in the village. whole families, when everyone there, small, big, old, young, well, just everyone, literally, in fact , a third of the village was killed, but just a third of the village was taken and killed, and now these people are telling how bad it is to beat
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with some rockets and by peaceful gas aviation, which has just, literally, shelled and continues to shell israel, badly as it turns out. and these, you know, crocodile tears just in streams about how, my god, my god, how is it over there, there, apparently, houses are falling somewhere, well, what can i say, well, there is cynicism, and there is simply russian propaganda, which is simply too on the other side, good and evil , well, the same thing is happening with them, but they haven't had time yet , literally, well, somehow, everyone has recovered from the mass murders committed there by hamas, the militants, russian propaganda is already starting to tell that this is not the same production as in the bucha, everything is hard to believe, but yes, now they are telling exactly that, it was not possible for israel to create a new bucha from the jewish kibbutz kfaraz,
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a girl-journalist who wrote about dozens of people burned by hamas fighters of israeli beheaded babies, she refused her... statement, stated that she herself did not see the victims, she wrote a report from the words of israeli soldiers, the israeli soldiers themselves, the information was also not confirmed, but it was, as they say, too late, beheaded children, whose glory god, it seems there is no, already on all front pages, all western media , here, for example, cnn correspondent nick robertson works out the technique, squatting against the background of polyethylene bags, talks about the atrocities of hamas, there were atrocities, no one denies it, but the heads babies were not cut off, at least in this particular case. the same word, robertson worked exactly the same way in ukraine and ran around in the woods and warts,
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accusing russia of all terrible sins. the task, rather, the order is only one - to dehumanize the palestinians, just like before this dehumanized all russians. well, that is, you see the same distortions and manipulations that are used in relation to ukraine, that is, at first it is invented that it is as if everyone is directly talking about some one right there and so on and so on. and then it starts, well, they were somewhere, but not here, which means it's not like that. no, actually, after all, the representative of the israel defense forces , lt. col. jonathan kanricus, confirmed to many people that such terrorists did kill and decapitate children, maybe not in this particular village, maybe in that one, they did not they say this for no reason, but they exist, and such corpses have really already been found, and they are really children, and the fact that there are not 40 of them, well, it probably does not make this whole story any less terrible, and
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what’s more, when he tells her that in this tibutka, it was not possible to arrange something like a riot, then you know that, this is probably just recognition by russia of its crime, because there they killed, well, more than a hundred people, in general, including children, and from the fact that not all of them were beheaded, but the situation, you know, is definitely not improving. and here we are with such, you know, wild, literally distortions, we are facing them now, and israel has been facing them for quite a long time, and here i want to talk about this topic with karl volokh, a political commentator, blogger, who lived in israel for several years, could to observe all this quite closely, i want to talk about the challenges that are in the information confrontation that israel faces during hostilities, for us they can, but for israel they cannot, and how they are similar, how they differ from those facing
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ukraine, congratulations, mr. karl, congratulations, just a little i showed some such moments, but of course, this is not an exhaustive story , moreover, this happens not only in the russian military, there are some things that for israel, as soon as hostilities begin, such manipulations begin, conversations begin and what would you say is really similar to our situation, and what is it that we have not yet encountered this, but we may encounter it, well , look, in fact there are a lot of parallels, just unfortunately, even in ukrainian society, the soviets are still alive narratives which they were simply produced in the same laboratories, wherever.
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the people of brady, or the united people, or there, others like that, or the people of donbass, eh, others of this, the same plan of the narrative, and which were very, very strongly absorbed, relatively speaking, in the brain, well, russians, this is nothing to talk about at all , they have been forgotten all their lives, and as you can see , they continue, and to zumba them in the same way, even in ukraine, is probably certain. to a certain extent, there is, especially in previous generations, well, look, there is, for example, a hundred percent analogy between the palestinians and the people of donbass, one hundred percent, i emphasize once again, well, the palestinians, who are the palestinians, that is, they are part of one people, it is called arab, that is, the arab people, well, so that they understand how the poor are not given to the poor people, relatively speaking, where to live and so on . do not have their own country, the arab people have 20 countries, the arab people have 15 million km
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of area, er, israel, together with those territories and so on, er, it is 30,000 km, it is 1/50th, and it is the only the country of the jews, which exists, but had to be invented, you know, there is, there is such an author, deceased unfortunately, the former lieutenant general of the romanian intelligence, intelligence, er, his name is ion mihai pacepa, he once fled to the west, published several books there, very informative, very interesting, he described how this , this myth, that is, before the year 67, eh, there were arabs, at least the arabs of palestine, after the year 67, a new term appeared, palestinians, eh, and it is very interesting to talk here, in general, well, well, if you want,
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if, if it's interesting, uh, so, about the history of this word, this name in general, where it comes from novza. by the way, second, second a narrative that sits very firmly in people's heads, that the jews came to the land of the state of palestine, cut off the arabs' land, the palestinians' land, but there has never been a country called palestine in history, that is, never, there were different ones there, under by different leaders, conditionally speaking, there were, so there was a territory, but there was never a country of palestine, what is this name, this is the name of the territory, it appeared in the first century of our era, after the emperor titus destroyed the second temple and expelled the jews who constantly rebelled against the roman empire, expelled them, that is, from their land, and in order to break, relatively speaking, all
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mention of that, about the rights of the jews, relatively speaking, to this land, he, he called this land instead of it earlier was meant the land of israel, judea, samaria, gaza. and he called it, so he called it, palestine. er, there further, you know, the story can be told there, about the british mandate, about how, in 21, after the end of the first world war, once again, it was then, one of the provinces of the ottoman empire. the british, who fought with the ottomans empire, went there, received from the then organization of the united nations, in other words, from the league of nations, received a mandate to manage this territory, for the purpose of which it was written in the mandate to create a national center of the jewish people, well, that is, to finally give the jews at least some land , let them move , relatively speaking, from europe, other countries, where
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they live there, and settle in their own homes, after a year i gave 3/4 of this land. do you know who transjordan, now it is called jordan, that is, 3/4 of the palestinian territory under under the name of palestine, they already have a state there, uh, an arab state called jordan, and so on, it can be told for a long time, but i say, just look, look, when people say maps , they print some, look how palestine has shrunk , and by the way, no one will print the map until the 48th year, but no one wants to print... of those who dispute, so to speak, and say about how israel, as an invader, takes arab land, that is, palestinian land, no one prints a map until 48-47, and even more so, no one prints before in the 21st year, when the territory was almost four times larger, and most of it was already
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given to the arab state under the name, well, that is, it is one of the absolutely... well, lying, absolutely manipulative narratives, which, as mihai pochepov writes, that in 1967, when it became clear after the war, the ship, sorry, after the six-day war, that it would not be possible to deal with israel very simply and so on, the kgb of the ussr, under the instructions of its leadership, that is, the central committee of the communist party, began to work for a longer perspective , and worked before that quite, quite fruitfully, that is, they published in arab countries the protocols of the sages of zion there and so on and so on, there was not, you know, there was such a not very friendly attitude towards the jews, but it was not brought to such a level, as it is today, this is what the kgb did, they specifically
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published the protocols of zionist sages in arab countries in arabic, but in 1967 they invented er, palestinians and arabs, who before that were very ashamed of this name and said that they did not , we are not palestinians, by the way, they were called palestinians at that time to a certain extent period, up to the year 48, the jews who moved there were called palestinians, the elder wrote about it, and here they became palestinians, and today no one doubts that this is a people who have always lived there, the name itself, by the way, is like from the bible, the philistines, who, by their origin from one of the greek islands, are not related to the arabs at all, have no relation, the arabs appeared there six centuries after the e, after, if, how the name palestine appeared and so on, well that is, i have only told you... one of those lame narratives, there are actually quite a few of them, quite a lot, and so israel constantly faces it, it constantly has to live with it, unfortunately, and the libyans there, the so-called
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intellectuals, westerners, today have very, very well learned this kagebi narrative and coexist with it perfectly, well there is also such a thing that israel is facing, well, we understood this problem a long time ago. became literally just now , this is, you know, the pressure of the allies and , in general, of the world community, regarding restrictions on the forms and methods of conducting hostilities, and, well, for israel, this is something that they have had to overcome for more than 50 years, after they were attacked alone, they had to give up already conquered territories, and in his memoirs, prime minister of israel goldamey writes about the times of the so-called war of confession with egypt. which lasted from march 68 to the summer of 70, and when i saw this quote, well, it's just, you know , it's like about us today, so let's
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listen, because it's really, well, you know, like right now is happening, but what annoyed me the most was the question of whether the bombing in the depths of egypt really need and are motivated by considerations of self-defense, as if a murderer can only be stopped when he already comes to your house, especially if he has not even hidden his intentions. well , you know, it's as if it was said about russia and us, when they tell us how we can't bomb deep into russian territory. that is, the same thing, the same thing, and as soon as israel is attacked, as soon as israel starts to respond, from then on, exactly what will happen, which i will show again now, that's what. tries to tell and russian television and not only russian television, what is there, everyone tells, well, in approximately this text.
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israel attacked more than eighty targets used by hamas militants, mosques and hospitals were the targets of the israeli army, the border crossing on the border with egypt was under attack, along which the tzahal advised palestinians to try to evacuate literally the day before, on these shots. children from the gas sector, it is impossible to explain to them what hamas is and what the idf is. biden personally gave netanyahu the go-ahead for the military operation. at night the american grandfather addressed the nation and declared that israel, unlike hamas, fights according to the law, that is, the genocide of the civilian population, the blockade, the use of white phosphorus, all this according to the law, what law? here we suddenly learned that the use of white phosphorus, which is widely used by russia in ukraine , is illegal, it turns out, and before this it turns out that the russians did not know this, only here they found out about it, and how did you do it
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all the time used all these years against ukraine, well, that is, it is strange, yes, and again, if we talk about children, we also have a video that is so beautiful, what does it mean, well, i don't know , maybe it's some henchman, hamas, trying to get his child from...' you rule, so that in the hope that she will be shot, that this a little boy is shot by israeli soldiers, and you can see that he is directly inciting, pushing, no , you go there, and he is very much waiting for them to finally shoot him, so that he can then take the child, carry him around and tell stories, that's scary the israeli military attacked, well , something went wrong, as a result, nothing it worked out with this plan, as you can see, that is, no one shot the child, probably to the grief of this father, he had completely different plans, here, that is , it is about and about children and in general about this and about all
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these conversations about about unfortunate residents who they can't hide anywhere, but here i have a slightly different question to karl, karl, tell me, why do these conversations about the fact that when, uh, some terrorists hit, well, they hit normally and that's all, well, what are you going to do? terrorists, but as soon as... the response begins, immediately a mass of people rushes in, which begins to talk about the adequacy of the answer, that it can, there is also in principle, well, not only , well, let's be honest, it is not only because of such humanism, but also because there are, well, there are some interests in the arab world , so as not to incite the arab world and so on and so forth, so what exactly are all these cunning calculations about? look, one thing, one of the main, from my point of view, very successful, ipso-operations
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against israel. as, by the way, against ukraine, and it will not be difficult for you, it means to draw parallels, this is a replacement of the concept of david goliav, we they had it from donbas, this, well, exactly, one to the other, i.e. not to say that it is russia fighting against ukraine in donbas, not to say that these are its soldiers, not to say that these are its weapons, not to say that it is theirs finances teaches them, gives them, er, gives them intelligence information, supplies them, er, means ammunition, er, not only that, included them in their military districts, even before they were attached to russia there, and so then, god forbid it should be said, no, we have to pretend that this goliath, septo-ukraine, attacked a small donbasik, and then,
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you immediately see how the sympathies of the free world, relatively speaking, fortunately did not quite succeed, but in the situation with israel, it was done perfectly, extra-technically, that is, there is no such thing as the arab states there for a single day until the 75th year, none recognized the existence of israel's right to exist, there is no such thing as today in hamas, and so on, it is written that they are the entire territory of palestine, by which they... uh, they mean, including israel and so further, they must, must release that israel, must be destroyed, and so on, so, uh, uh, no, it is ignored, that is, that there is a whole arab world, well today it was possible to break off a part of it, conditionally speaking, and sign treaties, that is, peace treaties, but all the time, it was the arab world, plus, well, the persians, that is, the iranians, they
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not the arabs, i.e. plus other muslims, against the small... well, yes, this is a twisted story, and at the same time it will be completely different, well, the impression of what is happening, we are forced to say goodbye to karl, our time is up, thank you, karl, that joined us on the air, it was karl volokh, and you and i will go into a little more detail tomorrow let's talk about how exactly russian propaganda works, well, against israel in this situation, and it works, it must be admitted. against israel. when civilization is wiped out by a pandemic, a teenage girl may become humanity's last hope. watch the hbo series that took the world by storm. the last of us, exclusively, in the megodog subscription. the child
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