[000:00:00;00] to us russia in the midst of the heating season, at the beginning, in particular of the heating season, which is about to begin, because the enemy's tactics are such that, as soon as it gets cold, he tries to burn the most, the most strongly, well , look, give an accurate assessment of how it was prepared anti-aircraft defense, it will be possible only when they start mass attacks, because the russians, judging by what is happening, they are still accumulating missiles, i would not underestimate them, the task of destroying the energy structure, of course, that they didn't get anywhere, about it should be understood, they should not be underestimated, especially since last year the ukrainians , well, were a little lucky, had a warm enough winter, what kind of winter this year will be, that is still a question, and how much the government managed

to prepare, including. .. the ethical system of ukraine, to ensure its protection, and well, we will look at the blackouts , whether there will be or not, and this includes the training of ukrainians there and everything else, well , you know, it is difficult to speak judgingly, sitting in kyiv, regarding how it is prepared, because basically there is there near my house there is a shelter, an office for my premises is also sufficiently strong. and here it depends again on the kyiv region, because after all the mountains , judging by the impact map, it is concentrated primarily in those areas where there are, for example, tetsy, so there are vydobychi, for example, darner square, the same for example, trajeshchyna, where such objects are located, and they will

obviously direct their efforts there. and everything else, well, plus kyiv, after all, taking into account the fact that there are modern systems, and its importance in the ppo, it is already in comparison with last year much better protected, because if i'm not mistaken, the patriots appeared in ukraine somewhere in december of last year, and before that the russians felt quite free, well not free, but they felt much more confident, well at least. when daggers began to be knocked down, it was very unpleasant news for them. it has already been reported that the russians have already launched attacks on ukraine's energy facilities, in order to try to plunge ukrainians into cold and darkness, just like last year, however, let's talk about how prepared ukraine is, in particular in the context of air defense with ivan varchenko, a security expert, congratulations, thank you for joining, good afternoon, we understand that

the situation with the ppu of ukraine has improved. in comparison with last year, however, now, for example, the same shaheds who were paying taxes last year , in particular the russians, are now being produced on the territory of the aggressor country, there are probably more of them, and they have more means to attack our critical infrastructure, this is the ratio, so the strengthening of our air defense in contrast to the strengthening of the military-industrial complex there of the russian federation, in which they are investing more and more funds, trying again... to emphasize precisely on air attacks, can you please tell us about this ratio now, what is the balance of forces, let's say, well, ukraine, puts questions before partners, regarding the full provision of our airspace, the security of our cities, infrastructure, and for this we need several times, if not ten times more protection systems, we have

operational level protection systems. now such as patriot, such as airisty, such as nasams, and there are systems, well, rather not a system, but weapons that are capable of destroying, including, tactical-level uavs, such as shaheds, and , accordingly, their various analogues used by russia, mainly in the front-line zone, but shaheds , they fly over other settlements, cities of ukraine, making an impression on critical structures and the civilian population, that is, these installations, cheetah anti-aircraft installations, and of course various different combinations and weapons capable of operating in anti-aircraft mode, in the mode of combating bpp, including small arms, we have several good precedents, if the number went to dozens, probably when

our fighters, with small arms, including ordinary automatic weapons, er... shot down these shaheds and did not give them a chance to do their dirty work, but returning again to what concerns security, what concerns... and allows us to talk about the security of our cities, our critical infrastructure, military infrastructure, our entire territory of ukraine, this is still very, very far away , so of course we are now piecemeal, based on priorities, we provide individual settlements, individual territories, with more or less complete protection , at the same time, we now have a precedent, a precedent, a few days ago, when, even, quite advertised, and a system that showed good results, due to

massive strike, i mean, the system called there iron dome and this air defense dome over israel , at the same time, it also, because of the massive strike, because of the hits... the number of missiles and drones, it also did not work properly, we see, the essence of preschool impressions, so of course we have to talk not only about the number now, which comes from the standards of certain that we can produce, but also a serious serious reserve, especially for those objects, settlements that are critical for our security, for the security of the state, first of all we are talking about language, of course, because people are valuable, no matter where they are, in which part of ukraine, in which part of ukraine they live, gentlemen, actually, let's add a little more color, in fact to of what kind of shelters

there are, because it turned out that they also exist gold and silver, and whatever, and sometimes money is spent purposefully, reasonedly, objectively, sometimes it is spent, in fact, on air, one of the largest shelters in educational institutions of kyiv region was opened in the gatny lyceum. for example, it accommodates 700 people, the project cost almost uah 13 million, the region allocated uah 6 million as part of co-financing. the shelter has four halls with furniture and interactive complexes, three rooms for employees, a large corridor with seating, shower rooms, showers, even drinking water supplies of products, a generator and wi-fi, well, this is so far... a real shelter, it was created specifically for schoolchildren, but if i am not mistaken, ordinary ordinary civilians, the same mothers, fathers, grandmothers, grandfathers, can also hide in it

these students, and this is an example of when the money is visible where , where it actually went, so maybe someone will say luxurious, but there is everything necessary and the shelter really makes, makes an impression, and most importantly fulfills its... function, and stay in it and continue further study, during lessons, if airy the alarm happened during the lessons, maybe mr. valentine, but in fact we have a lot of examples when millions went to shelters, but instead we saw non -functional rooms, model rooms, you can even say that, we saw no, plastered walls, we saw half... no furniture, we saw a lot of such, well, unspectacular things, why do we hear about gold and silver shelters, but we hear less about the fact that someone is responsible for this, i think, the question is not for me, i i think that this is

a question for law enforcement agencies, which should intervene in such processes in the event that there are, well, abuses or the suspicion that not everything is there, well, well, i think that it is not inevitable by the way, i can just remind these optimists some who think that they were not caught right away, then they will never be caught again, when ukraine was preparing for euro 2012, also at that time a lot of everything was being built , including these football fields, so that the children could supposedly play, well, they still catch the characters who warmed up on it hands, and i think that after the war even more so questions will be asked when a little... well, we should still be aware that each system has a capacity, and the resources of the system are not unlimited, and there is still some priority, that is, what are these or other authorized bodies doing there,

and of course we would like them to deal with everything and at the same time, well, but unfortunately, it does not always work out, well, due to overload, relatively speaking, just different areas of work, so i am sure that these storage facilities or equipment of these schools we are currently watching and being challenged doubts about the expediency or impracticality or validity of those expenses, well, they will come back to them and these people will answer, well, the main thing is that it is suicidally simple...' position, well, that is, this, roughly speaking, they are stealing from themselves, the only , that i would still here, you know, i would add one more point, how the current situation in the country differs from last year's situation, well , we already talked about the fact that our pppo capacity has increased, but at the same time we are observing that theirs has also decreased capacity of pppo, and destruction of two systems triumph, yes, one in the crimea, it seems, the sbushniks destroyed it, it seems already in the belgorod

region, and immediately after that there were already russian high-energy flights, and then you already know, this joke, i don't remember, someone i have on facebook, well, i saw some of my friends there, this joke about the fact that the security service of ukraine has established a schedule for disconnecting electricity in russia, i then wrote in the comments that the schedule will be updated, that is, we must understand that we can of course now to ironize, but nevertheless, this fatherhood to a certain extent, it can also to play, well, my role, but under any schedules, under any scenarios , that is, we must be ready for the worst , you understand, that is, the course of these processes, and therefore, in the place of each of the ukrainians , i would still realize that the war is going on, that there may be shelling, that there may be some everyday difficulties, and just before that, to be ready, that is, the state does what it does. has to do, certainly there can be no question, the defense forces are doing what they

have to do, and they are doing it well enough successfully, but each of us must also take care of our own safety, think about where we will be there , i don’t know, recharge our gadgets, where we will warm up if necessary, well, these osb, roughly speaking, yes all are just associations of residents of buildings, that is, they should be like this, listen, we stood on the maidan once in the winter, at least two. in these tents, then i think that the russians, if they think that they can break us now, well, or exceptionally, because of the cold there or the lack of electricity, well they are really very naive, very naive, and we should be ready, well, to resist in spite of everything, yes, mr. ivan, let's talk about the potential that ukraine has now compared to last year, in particular, about

our capabilities, let's say, defense forces, as well as forces friendly to them, yes, not to ugu, security forces, however, yes, or, let's say this, really, probably this winter, as a response to attacks on ukraine, the russians can feel for themselves what a stabilizing power outage is , they will definitely feel it, we already see that the ukrainians do not shy away from attacking the russian military infrastructure , or the infrastructure that supports the military-industrial complex and destroy these objects of the infrastructure of the military-industrial complex, after all, other objects that facilitate and help the russians to carry out their aggression in ukraine, so i i am absolutely sure that our capabilities will grow both quantitatively and in the radius of this action, to date the radius of action reaches, we can see from several facts, more than

1000 km from the territory of ukraine, i do not exclude, that our partners will help us to ensure that this radius expands and that it covers the entire territory of the russian federation, from where aggressive actions against ukraine are possible, all the infrastructure and all the logistics of the russian federation, which provides transportation, transportation of military, military equipment and forces, of course , then in this case we can say that ukraine follows the rules, not to hit the civilian population, not to hit civilian objects that are not used for military purposes, but it is clear that citizens who live next to a factory that produces, for example, the same shaheds or russian missiles, cannot be guaranteed, and no country in the world now and

no military technology is able to guarantee them that they will be secured, they have to be aware that being in the immediate vicinity of objects that carry out aggression against ukraine, they are also exposed to danger, and even more so , working at these objects, they are, accordingly , an instrument of aggression against ukraine, and of course, we understand that i am running on these objects can also be affected and die, including those persons who work at these objects, therefore ukraine. the chinese response will be expanded. we already see the capabilities that concern ukrainian production itself, and of course we understand that our partners, those who reliably and constantly support us, they will also eventually expand the range of their assistance, we expect, seriously, expect from

taurus, taurus from germany, we expect a wider and larger number of those missiles now highly... accurate, which we see, which we have had the opportunity to use now from the french partners and the british stormshed and scalp, we accordingly expect from our american partners a clear and positive answer about giving us, i apologize, attacks that will be able to hit the russian troops and russian, of the russian aggressor to a depth of up to 300 and possibly even more kilometers. well, we hope, calls are already being heard, in particular from the bundestag and in the defense committee of germany, they talked about the fact that after the handover to ukraine taurus, the question will be raised here, let's say, ukraine's ability and right to strike military targets on the territory of the russian federation, in particular with

the help of western weapons, we will monitor this, thank you for joining us today, we are all waiting for winter and we believe that let's say so, this year we will be more ready, in particular, we have all the prerequisites for this. thank you, ivan varchenko, a security expert, joined our broadcast. thank you mr. ivan, thank you. gentlemen, let's give some numbers, actually, as much as possible they will strike, obviously they will, the russians are ukrainian-style, in particular infrastructure, energy, they are already striking, they are already striking, they can, they can do it in greater numbers, why are the russians trying to increase the production of kamikaze attack drones. according to intelligence, there are signs that it will be further increased, but as it is assumed in the air force of ukraine without iran, the russians are unlikely to be able to produce them on their own, so in the future they will use it to get its technologies, which they cannot produce themselves, now for one attack the invaders launch 20-30 strike drones,

hit the agricultural sector, port infrastructure, airfields and military facilities. mr. taras, what do you think we will observe with the approach of cold weather, what tactics the enemy will practice, and actually , whether we will monitor, in these attacks, which will obviously occur, with the beginning of the heating season, or whether we will monitor the iranian trail, well, look , the iranian trail is already there, i can't comment on the tactics of the application, i can comment on the math, yes, look, the number of drone strikes is constantly increasing, if somewhere it changes, somewhere there was an average of 400 per month a month or two ago, then last month it was already 500, well, count, it is actually 20%, more, it means that they understand that it works for them, they

they see that the percentage of those that ukrainian air defense will be able to shoot down is not the same as in for example, missiles, i am not talking about secret information, you can look, this is a publication, if you analyze it, the publication of the general staff. well, in particular , we have repeatedly talked about how russia is increasing the production of drones, so own plant built on the territory of russia will probably bear fruit. however , our, let's say, the sphere of security is getting stronger, and mr. taras is joining us again, so please continue. well, look, obviously they will try. the question is that we are protestants. must, we must understand that the question of establishing our own production is a question of the survival of the nation, why, because there was talk about taurus atakamsa, well, i, i am pessimistic about

the fact that they will provide an opportunity to beat the territory of the russian federation, because it contradicts their policy towards nuclear states in general, well, for example, the usa does not give taiwan its own missiles, they make their own, the logic here is that you should not give such long missiles to countries that primarily border nuclear countries, so that there is no temptation, for example, to use these missiles and drag the united states of america into a war with a nuclear power, accordingly, we must prepare for the worst, you understand that we must have missiles, look, this is a war, a war in israel, hamas, yes, 5,000 rockets, where did they come from... these are rockets, it means that they either help or have their own production, i do not rule it out, in principle they did this, that is, if hamas could do it, here the question is for us dear government. what was done for this, because when today i see that kb luch, a missile manufacturer , again appeals to the cabinet of ministers to finally

resolve the issue with the conclusions of the dsu of the state audit service, which came with an inspection of the weapon leveler and they ask where the profits are, trying to actually to confiscate, here we must decide internally, and we must understand that russia is moving to military rails, we must... you understand that they are scaling up their production, we must have an adequate response and transfer the war to the territory of the russian federation, here is mr. glodky talked about his own weapons, more precisely about the actions of the sbu, but look at what is happening with us, in the grain corridor, it opened, and why did it open, well, because mr. malyuk told me that the order... surface drones, yes, which gave such

a nightmare the fleet of the russian federation that he now i was forced to transfer it actually to the new russian one, they are even thinking of going to abkhazia, and look what happens when ukraine took our own security, our own hands, we solved this issue, solved this issue, and we don’t need all kinds of mediators, like erdogan , you know, this is his position, he can sell us at a discount with his discount, and now we don’t need any intermediaries, we solve the issue of our own security ourselves, the same applies to asymmetric answers, 10 flew here missiles, 10 missiles should also fly there, at least the border, border regions , should feel the blows of the ukrainian forces, if it goes deeper, then very good, but again, we must... this is the mobilization of our own economy, actually,

production itself, when we don't depend on political intrigues, different countries, we don't beg for weapons, we don't ask where to hit and where not to hit, because western countries have long said that last fall, hit wherever you want on the territory of the russian federation, but not with our weapons, this is their clear position, and i doubt that it will change, and therefore, if they provide taurus, it is very good, but we must understand that this is for strikes on the territory of ukraine, we must be clearly and clearly aware of this, and not to wait for their position to change there, we ourselves must become stronger in order to take our security into our own hands, but look at the example of israel again, they are asking someone there, no, they are not asking, for the first attack, a few hours later, the bombardment. territory gases, the destruction of all terrorists, yes, but the important thing here is that they do it with weapons of their own production, i understand correctly, in order to strike at them, they

have their own military equipment, there are hundreds of them, no, they did that, for example , they took, they are taking planes from the united states of america, for example, the f16, they have been using this tactic since the 80s, but they put their own electronics, produce them as well. own missiles, own bombs, own equipment, well, for example, israel has 4,000 tanks in its arsenal, yes, this is their development, they developed it for themselves and in fact do not sell it to anyone, it is their own military-industrial complex, why, because they already know the history of what dependence on weapons is, when in 67 france refused to give them weapons, when they struck the arabs at that time,

yes, this is also the question of whether the united states of america was ready to provide weapons in 1973, there was also a condition of no pre-emptive strike, otherwise we will not give you weapons, and this is one of the reasons why, for example, the war started so catastrophically in the 73rd year, which is the 50th anniversary, rokovyn, i would call it, now we see today, therefore... they clearly understood that they should have their own weapons, electronics , missiles as much as possible in order to depend, not depend, but to understand that you know, it is much calmer, i absolutely agree with you, mr. taras, here, mr. valentin, it is worth mentioning that at the end of this winter in russia there will be a certain process, which they call elections, and it is possible, although the kremlin political technologists say, well, with reference to them, russian media write about that that the war will not be in the foreground in putin's election campaign, it will be relegated there to the second row, it will be focused

there all on these scraps and on traditional, as they say, values, however. we understand that certain, certain, let's say, well, i don't know, maybe they will try to demonstrate to the russians, in particular on the ukrainian front, and maybe the destruction of ukrainian infrastructure there, may be, let's say, one of the elements, the power that will try to show putin before the elections that you think there are no elections in russia, well, i'm sure a process they call an election, and then , accordingly, there is no need and no need to somehow win the sympathy of voters, piskov said clearly, we don't have elections. we just have a very expensive bureaucracy, well, that is, no matter what happens, even if ukrainian troops enter moscow, putin will win the elections in russia, well, because the main thing is that the cec is not taken over, they will draw everything else and say that that's all, this ee character continues to enjoy a fantastic level of support, so no,

there is no such interdependence, and it's not worth it to calculate, but... this does not mean that they will not try to do it, it's just that they will not do it for electoral purposes, that is, you can't connect everything to achievements, i don't connect it, because regardless of how events will unfold on the battlefield, to what extent they will be successful or not, well, this will not fundamentally affect the will of detection, more precisely, the will of detection may be affected somewhere, but it cannot affect the results in any way, strictly speaking, and well if i don't see any for it at all forethought, because there are no elections as such in russia, and in the current circumstances, and soon, if we remembered this process, yes, what they call elections, immediately in the context of the war, the question is, you saw, it is certain that you also have information about the fact that now the kremlin is looking for some kind of technical opposition candidate who could compete, let's say, in quotation marks , with putin, and they say this could be

a person who publicly opposes the war against. of ukraine, in order to demonstrate the official results of these elections, they say, look at the margin for a person who will vote against the war there, for example, 5% of people there, 85 will vote for putin, who is leading this war. can such, let's say, a political technological move be made in russia, and who can be the person who can be exposed, for example, publicly, as an opponent of the war. well, such a candidate can only be a person who is in prison, because from. in accordance with the current legislation of the russian federation , now opposing the svo is a combination of several articles, well, starting from there is the discrediting of the russian army, ending there with not treason, so no, i don’t think it’s possible, well, it’s just that it will look so absurd when people are put behind these lonely pickets with some absolutely

neutral pictures like we are for peace, and here you are do you think that the whole political... some figure can come out into the public space with slogans about stopping what she can be allowed to do, she will say something she can't allow because it can, you know, turn into an uncontrolled process, we remember how in voting in these local elections took place in russia, well, even before the full -scale invasion, and there was a phenomenon called smartvoting, yes, that is, when people voted for maids, the governor, simple. as tame candidates just so that this governor himself does not win, that is, because i think this is a very, year and many more years, when we had elections and where there were also technical candidates that caused nothing but laughter, in fact, mr. taras, well, really, as you think, there will be some candidate who, who the kremlin can present it to its audience as a type of opposition, so in order to create such

visibility, to legitimize this process, to create visibility, it would logically have to be presented in russian on putin's birthday, unfortunately this did not happen. i'm not quite, i'm better at his, yes, i 'm not quite like him, yes, i don't quite agree that elections are not important for the kremlin, even in an authoritarian regime, and the question of the legitimacy of the government is still the same, and no matter how important it is question, of course they would have canceled the election a long time ago, but they understand that, after all, at least putin's sincere supporters should come, vote and still convey putin's legitimacy, of course, that there is not 90%