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[000:00:00;00] of the opposition type, so in order to create such an appearance, to legitimize this process, to create the appearance of real competition, it should logically be presented in russian on putin's birthday, it's a pity it didn't happen, look, i'm not quite, it's better in his, yes, i don't quite agree, yes, i don't quite agree that elections are not important for the kremlin, even in an authoritarian regime. and the question of the legitimacy of the government still stands, and if it were not such an important question, of course they would have canceled the elections a long time ago, but they understand that, after all, at least putin's sincere supporters should come, vote and still convey legitimacy to putin, of course, that there is not 90%
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support, but you can say iron. in these types, these types of regime, well, putin has 30-40%, there is no doubt, this raises the issue of risks, which you started talking about, that is, they already want to limit a person to be no younger than 50 years old, as far as i can see, why , because they understand that there are risks of unexpected results that can do a lot to him to change, especially since the putin who is going to the elections now is not the putin who was in the previous elections, because the shadow of the prigozhin raid did not go anywhere, when putin nevertheless demonstrated, well, what is called, the failure of the regime
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to fight for himself, when he simply fled from moscow, and when he was attacked by these firemen , that is, he showed that he was not ready to fight for power, and this is impossible in russian conditions, it creates distrust in putin, and well , since this is a mafia state, then, accordingly , pakhan, who is running away from his, from his, well of such a throne, he is no longer such a full-fledged plowman, and they know it, then the question arises in the next one, everything is correct, and suddenly it happens that the second round, or the first, someone sways to another alternative, and they want to do it, so that they know that the elites themselves are primarily russian , and they wonder what is next, well, what does putin offer them, first of all, because of course they are not interested in the opinion of the people, and putin does not
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offer anything, what is the picture of the future . it offers endless war, not a program and even for an authoritarian leader, because at least, at least there should be some kind of future, and the fact that they are nervous, you can see the statement of mr. kadyrov, he recently proposed to cancel the elections altogether, or, as long as the war goes on and so on, even more, he said we should have one candidate, vladimir putin, or there should be no elections at all, yes, and this will confirm it. words that the kremlin is still nervous, the procedures must be carried out, as i told you, the legitimacy of the authorities is still needed, without this it is impossible, because they, everything after all, they conduct sociology , they are in constant contact with the population, the kremlin works here, well enough, quite well, they do not want a repetition of the soviet union, and therefore they actively study people's opinions, and
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accordingly. here the question arises, what kadyrov said is correct , one person, and this is what you are starting to say, and these are precisely the fears, the fears of the kremlin that things may not go according to plan, and suddenly it will wobble somewhere, let's say these 30% will come to the polling stations, and suddenly there will be a wave of 70% who will vote for an alternative candidate. and it will be quite difficult to hide this, despite all the administrative resources, especially since, if there is a split in the elites, then they can to some extent contribute to this in different ways, and therefore in this case it is not so, and in fact it is a simple task, which stands in front of the putin regime, especially since after prigozhin was killed, and obviously
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the whole party knows how he was beaten, these are not fairy tales that putin tells, that there is cocaine, grenades, but they have nothing to do, like in an airplane throw grenades, just in case it is clear that the plane was blown up, it is again a question of whether putin is able to give those words that he will keep, because prigozhin obviously flew around russia, because he had guarantees from putin personally, whether he is the main arbiter in the country, and after that , what happened, if air defense was used in this, then it turns out to change the government in russia, and even easier, you don’t need to gather several thousand ... ners or other armed people there, well, it’s enough to bribe one, one squad or division of the pppo , give them
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money, they can shoot down a plane, not necessarily putin, maybe a competitor, and maybe even putin himself, that is, there is already a question of the loyalty of the generals, who may not see that someone pressed that button, of course, gentlemen, and if i may, finally nevertheless, let's return to the topic and remember it, with which we actually started, not only the preparation for the heating season, not only how ready we are, today we really had a lot more about the heating season, however, you talked so interestingly about the elections in russia, yes, and we understand that this too it is important that we have started, in fact, let's talk about whether one newly created structure , the alliance of defense industries, can help us resist russian attacks this fall and winter, mr. valentin, the alliance that was announced in kyiv at the defense industries forum, and joined by by the way, more than 30
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countries have already joined this alliance and many foreign and western companies have already announced that they are ready to invest, ready to build factories, develop those that are in ukraine, actually expand and scale the ukrainian military industry, actually. will it help us in facing the enemy, in particular this winter? this is a rhetorical question, the answer is obvious, of course, well, moreover, let's not forget zelensky's recent visit to spain, as a result of which we once again agreed on the supply of air defense equipment, let's not forget the negotiations with japan, well, as for the security guarantee, the day before the japanese handed over two of these mobile generators, which can provide up to 5,000 residents with electricity, you can imagine the power, and these are not the last two generators, which they passed on to us, and not only they pass them on to us, so it is actually clear that
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the russians hope that the saying that while the fat lose weight, the thin will die will come true, and they also think that they are just being rude in this context , but this is not so, that is, on our side, we can count on the support of well-developed and economically prosperous , technologically leading states, which , as a matter of fact, russia cannot count on in the current conditions, so i repeat that in fact, ukrainian institutional capacity is growing, is growing internally, that is, independently, yes autonomously, if as mr. taras says, that is, our own production and development of the military industry, but at the same time, we must understand that the means for this are also provided to us by the manufacturers, well, if the russians cannot produce just barrels for their barrel artillery, well, that is a problem, because they do not have such machines, and today we produce quite, how to say, powerful weapons, which we saw, taras
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mentioned about this, about these baby sea babies , so for today it is clear that you know like every drop, every drop, and as a result we have a great result, yes , it will be stones. just grind, and they have, they are desperately looking for at least some resources in order to at least oppose something somewhere , but let’s look at the map, there are decades there, that is, let’s not deceive ourselves either, but in general, on the condition that existing trends are preserved, and i tend to think that nothing will be able to change the existing trends in the near future, but i think that we have every reason to be optimistic. in the plan and not only the passage of this heating season, but also in the principles of development, both of our energy industry and of our vpkat and in general , well, the economy, but regarding the future in russia, i have doubts, i would like to say that perhaps i was not quite understood correctly, i did not say that
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there are elections in russia unimportant, the election as a tool of legalization and legitimization of the political regime is definitely because putin's regime also articulates to this, i said, well, i see, yes, i think we understand each other perfectly. the resource is still afraid, and taras said about this that it will even happen. no matter how alternative candidate, i.e. they are still afraid that something might not go according to plan, and they themselves fall into this trap, on the one hand they want to prove the legality and legitimacy of their regime, and for this they need to hold elections with some alternative candidate, and on the other on the one hand, they are afraid that these elections may not go according to plan, and most importantly, that the results of these elections may not go according to plan, when actually , there may also be some mass protests, for riots and similar things, that is, internal political turbulence, about which is constantly relevant... what the ukrainian authorities say, in particular the same zelenskyi
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himself, that is, the situation there will really be very difficult , and i can make another forecast, i made a forecast last year, and i killed, it turned out to be right, and now i can make the same prediction, i am ready to bet that as a result of this heating season in russia, more people will die of hypothermia than in all of europe, including ukraine, and last year it happened, well, first of all, because no everyone drinks in europe in ukraine hawthorn, as in russia, and secondly... all such climatic conditions are somewhat different here, so before scaring us, you know, with lack of electricity, cold and hunger, i think they should get used to the earth, and here , in fact, the defense forces of ukraine help them get used to the land, so we thank them for their work. thank you, gentlemen, for helping to sort things out, today we looked much more broadly at the prospect of the heating season and winter in general and even planned, but it was undeniably extraordinary interesting. thank you, taras zagorodnyi joined us. political technologist by video link today. thank you, thank you valentin
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glodkikh, political scientist, today, as always , he came to our studio, we will see each other again, if you please. friends, finally, just about that, we started with bomb shelters, let's finish with them, just look at what bomb shelters can be, in particular , in the kyiv region, a bow, at the end of the topic, a bomb shelter in the form of a fairy-tale house was built at the gostomyl lyceum, design objects designed in the style of the housing of the characters from the work john tolkien, lord of the rings. snug. the atmosphere was created thanks to the thematic drawings on the walls, the room is designed for fifty students. well, i really hope that they didn't spend $350,000 on it, but, but, but it looks very, it has, it looks very beautiful, well, let's move on, we really understand that despite the war, there are certain other processes, let's say, that will affect every ukrainian, however , the war is now leaving its mark on everything and on our next topic, as well, in particular,
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unfortunately, on the social day, ukraine plans to develop a social code, its creation was announced by prime minister denys shmygalal in january of this year, the code will include all social components , taking into account the philosophy of targeting and overcoming difficult life circumstances of a person. the head of the cabinet assured that the government will continue to adapt social support to war and post-war conditions. we are contacted by alla fedrova, candidate of legal sciences, associate professor of the department of comparative european law, institute of international relations of the kyiv national taras shevchenko university, member of the european committee of social rights. mrs. allo, i hope, did not forget anything, correctly named all your regalia, in fact, let's start and remind, what is this social code and, as they say, what do they eat it with, how do they live with it, and actually, what is it for it
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is needed, what is it designed for, please. good afternoon, the government's plans for the development and adoption of the social code were indeed announced, and i must note that experts often criticize the authorities, but in this case i completely i support the idea of the need to adopt such a document for ukraine, if it will reflect a new social model for our society, and the social code will be... the result of a radical reform in the social sphere. why am i focusing on this , there were attempts to adopt the social code earlier, but in fact they consisted in codification, that is, in the compilation of current legislation into one document. in ukraine , there is a problem with this, adopted in different years, a huge number of laws, there are more than 20 system laws and hundreds of subordinate laws normative acts, which are not always agreed among themselves, but the form does not change the content, approaches and basic principles. and today ukraine finally needs to carry out a comprehensive reform of
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the social security system, including the pension system. it is an extremely complex, sensitive issue, and in the short term it may even be, you know, such an unpopular step of the authorities, because the results of the reform, provided that it is successfully carried out, and they will be felt gradually, that is, not immediately. and what needs to be done today, well the first is to move away from the paternalistic... system, when a person received certain social payments and benefits not because he is in difficult life circumstances or needs such help from the state, but simply by virtue of belonging to a certain category of persons, or as of today, the current social security system, you know, it includes multiple types of social benefits, payments, subsidies, and for a long time, even today, it is believed that
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the success rate of this system is precisely the number of such social payments, that is why the system is characterized by chaos, unstructuredness, where it can be said that it is even opaque, and the most important thing that needs to be emphasized today is that in ukraine there is no financial justification for the ability of our state to fulfill those social obligations what she wears on herself is simply important, it is important during war or in peaceful life, it will also come in handy for us, and you know, it is important both during war and in peacetime, and even i can say , that it was extremely important before the war, that is, until february 24, 2022, in general, this is a problem that has been troubling society since the 90s, that is , there was no reform of the social system and pension system in ukraine, i think everyone has heard about it , that the pension reform is already, you know, permanent, and in fact
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, it is not completed, and if it is not completed, then we can say that in 10-15 years it is unclear whether those who are currently paying their pensions will receive a pension pension contributions. fund, therefore, here is the question, namely, this, this is what i stopped at, today it is very important to bring the social security system in line with the expenses, with the income that the state generally has and to balance social expenses with budget legislation and with the financial capacity of the state. today, you know, this is already a disaster, because people who have the right to certain... payments, due to the fact that every year in the law on the state budget of ukraine , certain types of social payments are not defined, i.e. not money is laid trivially, and debt arises from this, and some people go to court, get their own benefit, that is, ukrainian courts make decisions in favor of the plaintiffs, and then, again,
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this decision of ukrainian courts is not implemented, and people go to the european court of human rights, therefore, to date, we still have to implement the decisions of the european court of human rights specifically regarding non-implementation of the decisions of national courts. the infamous decision burmich v burmich and others against ukraine would have been adopted, there are more than 12,000 applicants, this is the first once in the history of the functioning of this court for more than half a century, the european court said, in fact, you know, that it can no longer make similar decisions against ukraine regarding the non-fulfillment by our state of the obligations that it takes upon itself and the non-fulfillment decisions of national courts, but to this day it continues, and the social code can be the basis that will stop, stop this shameful practice, so the reformation is extremely important that we have take into account, and you know, there are several factors here, well, the first is the war, of course, and
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the war caused a significant reduction in budget expenditures that are related to security and defense, or rather, that are not related to security... to the defense of the country . and we will observe, and are already observing , the growth of the unemployment rate and the increase in the number of persons with disabilities, the decrease of the working-age population and other factors that will continue to affect the state's ability to cover social expenses. therefore, again, the issue of social reform social legislation and the social security system is extremely important. on the other hand, ukraine received the status of a candidate country for joining the european union, and this requires bringing ukrainian legislation in line with european standards, including in the field of social policy, even more than before. i can say that while the adaptation of ukrainian legislation to eu legislation in this area is not high, but could you go into a little more detail, ms. allo, please excuse me, but here i will interrupt you so that our viewers
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understood, that is, well, it is done according to the example, as far as i understand, of foreign, so certain documents in order to implement its legislation in accordance. for example, to european legislation on our path to european integration, it is just in this aspect that it is important, and i will add, if you allow me, mrs. allo, which of the possible examples where exactly such a code, the social code works in the best possible way, maybe some example of a country you , you can tell us where it already works, it is already implemented, and it can be, for example, such a guide for us, thank you very much for the question, well, first of all, from...' that such a social code operates in germany, but even in the countries of the european union, the social protection system, it is a unique national phenomenon, and at the level of the european union , certain, you know, such principles are adopted. the main ideas are laid down, therefore each state, including the state of the european union, has its own social legislation, which may differ, including
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the amount of pension payments, age retirement, the question, the question of providing assistance in connection with the birth of a child or child care, but nevertheless there is a whole series of very important directives of the european union, which ukraine should still take into account and adapt, that is, yes , to determine that in ukrainian, ukrainian legislation meets the standards laid down in the european union, moreover , since 2007, ukraine has been a member, that is , it has ratified the european social charter and has already assumed a number of obligations in the social sphere within the framework of this extremely of an important document that was developed within the framework of the council of europe, and in fact every year the european committee of social rights makes conclusions for ukraine, which concern both the sphere of labor legislation and the sphere, of course, social, unfortunately, these conclusions
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are repeated very often, because of the corresponding changes , well , we don't always see the corresponding changes in ukraine. ms. allo, can we finally, we literally have two minutes left, what will this give to the people, what will it give to ordinary ukrainians, the changes that will take place, how they themselves they will feel, but you can literally use examples even. and a few examples, come on, we must have a targeted nature of social assistance, i.e. not just a person must fall into a certain category of persons, but in particular he must need help from the state, i really hope that the emphasis on providing social assistance will be changed within the framework of the new code payments , what we currently have for social services, especially this will and should apply to persons with disabilities, because ukrainian society
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must build inclusion and barrier-freeness, that is, it is very, very often much easier for the state to retrain a person, and to equip and adapt a workplace for persons with disabilities, than to pay assistance all his life, that is, the new model must be based not only on certain resources available there to guarantee social, social assistance, but must should be based on the support of the population and the creation of the necessary opportunities for a person to independently obtain income to provide for himself and his family, and it is clear that approaches must be changed to the subsistence minimum and to the methodology of the state methodology of understanding and calculating the subsistence minimum. the social code provides for the review of each of these multiple payments in order to introduce a single universal one. basic assistance, i think that in principle it will benefit all persons, as one example, you know, i can cite , to date, in ukraine, there is a resolution
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of the cabinet of ministers, which provides that annual rehabilitation assistance to persons who have suffered from the accident at the emergency, that's it if i, if i ask a rhetorical question, let me ask how much a person should receive for annual rehabilitation, there may be different numbers, but even... in the changes of 2020 , this amount is set, rather it was not changed, from 75 hryvnias per year, up to 120, and therefore the question may be, is it really possible to get healthy for this money, well, of course, of course , we understand, yes, that these processes, they simply cannot happen so quickly, however , the most important thing is that we are moving in this direction , and we will watch this way, and we will watch, we will watch you again call to hear new things and immerse yourself more in the topic alla fedorova, candidate of legal sciences , associate professor of the department of comparative european law of the institute of international relations
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of taras shevchenko national university of kyiv, also a member of the european committee of social rights, was with us, we are extremely grateful to you, and the last hours together with you , the elder derkach, oleksiy homan, thank you for being with us, thank you for your trust, see you, see you. the chevrons that approach victory, i do not know can i, what i have is enough, women don't get paid that much, he is more professional than me, can i change something, i don't deserve that kind of money. will i be able to get more, and what if i will be refused, a high position, probably not for me, there are
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many people like me, i will not be able to. of course you can, how about you? is everything ok like children, like a mother, i have more or less everything, well, almost, of course , that fatigue, of course insomnia, but in no case do not feel it, because the strength is here, inside us, and in those who are close to us, we will definitely overcome everything, our team document... war crimes and we talk to people who have been abducted, sexually assaulted, tortured, infiltration camps, these are very scary stories, it's impossible to get used to it, simple things help me, i try to put structure back into my life through planning, it's also important for me to feel in control of my life,
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through cleaning the workplace, washing dishes , you see the result... here and now, if you want to learn how to help yourself and others, go to the website how are you.com , i'm anastasia, this is my story program, an interview about how ukrainians continue that they also feel the most important thing: how they act in times of great war. today we are listening to the story of a screenwriter, musician, author of the super hit bayraktar and a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine. taras borovok is in our studio. i congratulate you, mr. taras. good evening, i heard the song bayraktar, probably a million times, a million times i sang along,
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i danced along and i continue to do it and not now. and at last. i have the opportunity to look into the eyes of the author of this hit, sincerely thank you for him and ask what you did, this byraktar, that he became so crazy popular, well, honestly, what kind of secret ingredient is there, you know, many producers must be those who deal with stars, those who deal with collectives or performers, i guess they would really like to have this formula, but in reality it does not exist, you can calculate.. . you can calculate, you can invest a huge resource in something, in some product, in some unit of content, then publish it, but it is not successful and people do not enter, or you can just concentrate some thought on that, on such a short one , as it turned out with baraktar analysis of what is now in society, and what needs to be done for this to get out of this depression, fear, well, it's more likely not depression,
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it was fear and such a slightly panicky mood. the occupiers came to us in ukraine, the uniforms are brand new, military vehicles, and their inventory was a little flooded, byrakaktar, byrakatar, when you created this song, and this? february 28, the fourth day of the war, and accordingly, it was written just like that in 15 minutes , published absolutely sincerely, there are 15 minutes for a song that became all-ukrainian, you see, i say it is unrealistic to predict such things, well, it is simply impossible and i myself, no, of course it's nice, of course there is pride in all this, because like yesterday somewhere i heard the phrase that one little song that
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saved a whole big country from fear and i think, damn it, but there is something in it, well, of course, pride swells from all this, and even more so from the fact that it was not just someone over there, a certain taras borovok, unknown to anyone , wrote it, but that it was written by an officer of the collective forces of ukraine, and it’s just straight-up bullshit, that’s what proves , well, maybe it's a little bit, it won't sound good, but it's what shows the intelligence of the army, it's what shows the creativity of the army, this is what shows. about the fact that our army is not as obstinate as the soviet one was and is now the orkiv army, and we have a different army, our army is too intellectual that it can simply be defeated, overcome on all fronts, including information . your byraktar is now being over-sung, well, everyone who is not lazy, it doesn't affect you, because there are different, let's say
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