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should be included, this too, further north along the line of demarcation of the front, we will talk , if possible, about the horliv direction in particular, there were no less fierce battles, but also very different circumstances, if in action we saw one applied tactic, i.e. actually zhukovsky, four days, this is zhukov's tactics, it's just a tactic, it was changed only on the third day, when it became clear that dozens of tanks, a hundred pieces of equipment were burned, that is , there is a combat tactical group - it is only for heavy equipment in the area of ​​avdiyivka, it is forever buried in around in the fields and on the fields, accordingly they also changed their tactics , for three days zhukov region switched to the now classic tactics of the 22nd year, when they go in groups of 20-30, age, this is very different

from other areas of the front, where they mainly they work, remotely, arta, drones, and if there is an advance of infantry, then in very small such groups of two or three men, that is, it is very different from the situation that exists on the front near horlivka, near the lyman-kupin section of the front and avdiivska , everything has completely changed there, and the intensity of the fighting is quite high, but there is also intensive work by our armed forces, along their rear lines, yesterday our armed forces hit the yasenuvata horlivka bridge, why is this place important at all, an important object, but why are we on it so we emphasize, yes, because he connects, yes, yes, yes, actually, that it connects horlivka with temporarily occupied donetsk, respectively, it is the fastest route, it is a good road, there are others, but these are such small roads, manivtsi, and a detour.

it is not very comfortable there, and in the end, now, after this bridge was hit by our armed forces , the occupiers have to bring everything they need a longer way through yenakieve, no, thanks to our armed forces for that, well, yes, there is quite a powerful and a clear blow, no one knows what they were hit with, someone says about jadem, these guided bombs, which are in our tactical aviation, may be something else, it does not matter, the main thing is that the work is done and the logistics of pulling up the ammunition is completely destroyed, we will remind you once again that after avdiivka in the dry end, who did not have time to listen our conversation with officer maksym morozov, he debunked the myths that there is a cauldron, that there are heavy battles, there is an increase in the intensity of shelling in avdiivka, several... in small bridgeheads, nothing

is being solved, but the most difficult situation is with the so-called near the coke farm by these rock dumps, yes. what is called terekon, the fighting continues there, that is why now they have increased the terrorist shelling of avdiyivka, but even now i am watching the video from our fighters , it has recently appeared to the people who are still staying there for our military and the military administration are delivering products and and help, and this means that dangerous , but logistical ways are working, and therefore there is no boiler, just as there is no need now, for the head, because this is a video that began to circulate this morning about the alleged use of projectiles from white phosphorus in vadiivka does not correspond to reality, our defenders confirmed. now we will take a short break, roman, stay with us for a few minutes, we will return and continue

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interviews, reports from the hottest points of the front. freedom life frankly and impartially. you draw your own conclusions. the whole east of ukraine is now red. but fortunately our guest was able to get to a safe place, and we are actually joining yevhen ievlev, a soldier of the armed forces of ukraine with the call sign sheikh, to the conversation now, glory to ukraine, mr. yevgeny, i wish health, the studio, and glory to the heroes, so it is clear that you are hot if you are forced to change the location even for security reasons, that is why i want to ask what the occupiers are doing now from this direction of the occupied throat. how do they work, we have just literally analyzed the situation for the last day in

the south, around avdiivka, how long does it look like in your area? listen, well, the horliv direction is directly logistically connected with avdiivsky, for three days now, i think, i will not open any for you new facts, shocked at avdiivka, you see the mass media, all the equipment that is going to avdiivka from our direction, it is at a depth from us, our relays fell out. it can be seen at a depth of 6 to 12 km, for three days it is such a non-stop flow of equipment, where we observed sunblocks, and tanks, and saushki, and d20, d30 guns, that is, it all passes in front of our noses, as much as possible, there, as far as we have bc, we are trying to hit this equipment, but the enemy is also taking cover all these days and has increased the density of artillery shells and mortar shelling, so for three days it was quite hot and the situation changed , i... i think you were informed, the arrival was somewhere, i was just in, let's say, before it was turned on,

the arrival was somewhere 150 meters away, very seriously i had to cross to the shelter, that’s why i say the situation, the last three days we have been quite hot, yes, mr. yevgeny, and in this case, in this, we understand, they don’t remove heavy equipment from your section of the front, that is, they are some kind of reserves, and you try to stop them, and the direction, as they say horlivka. avdiivka, that is, from north to south of all those columns, are they weakening and removing heavy equipment from the front line, i understand that this is no, it does not look at all like they are removing equipment from our section of the front, we roughly understand the maps -map and approximately, not approximately 90 percent, we understand what is located in them, at what depth, what in relation to our direction, that is, these are completely different columns, i think that the artery that leads from the horlivsk direction to avdiivka this is not the only artery by which they will deliver... equipment to avdiivka and in the avdiivka direction, but despite everything, well, the situation is really

, really very difficult, but despite everything, i want to tell you that the day before yesterday i had the opportunity to communicate with a brother from avdiivka, tactical success, there is no enemy there, it is very difficult, this it’s great, well, you understand what it is, if it’s not very appropriate to talk about some negative situations there on the air, but it seems very difficult, but i’m saying, the brothers there repel all enemy assaults as professionally and qualitatively as possible, and you yes sir evene, do you have time to look at the information support from the enemy, that is, because we just , deep-fake, solved such a thing with our soldiers, with officers, about which he has been talking all day today, about phosphorus bombs that are shelling avdiivka , this is to increase anxious moods and other demoralization, which you see, but if you have time to watch this too, how the information reinforces it all. this attack, overturning the enemy's equipment, how does it reinforce? look, i will tell you this, informatively, when this happens

ok, i don’t have much time to research and analyze what the telegram channels write, this is the first story, the second story, from the words of the same brother, i can confirm to you about the use of phosphorous projectiles, the third, the only thing that i know there is not from the information support the enemy, and what we know there from the factories that are open, well, there are certain telegram channels that we periodically review there in order to understand the situation that is happening with the enemy there , we also have an understanding, well, from these sources, that the morgue of the hospital in they are full of them, simply mr. yevgeny, how much the good action of our armed forces made life difficult for them, actually i am talking about the undermining of the bridge, the important bridge, horlivka yasenuvat, is it already clear that they have to go around somewhere, or are they trying to build something on the spot, i don't know, there temporary how are they doing now?

listen, i will answer this answer briefly, because i already have my command, that we need to change locations, i will tell you about, i will tell you about logistics, that first of all, you must understand that we are all working, and the artillery, all in the conditions of bc deficit, therefore, not by any means unimportant structures would not be damaged, this is the first, but the second, dear damage , dear damage to dear logistical arteries of the enemy, it leads to difficulties, because they are fighting on... in their own homes, not in their own territory, it is very difficult for them there to find it in the fields , on the landings, they don't understand what their predecessors have mined, they don't understand that they are being shot at by us, so dear logistics damage, it is reflected on the front for a certain period of time, but you. well, that is, they bypass all this, but they eat for it it takes more time than, for example, us, because we, we are at home, we have local people, we are fighting on our territories, mr. yegen, we turn off communication, thank you very much, but your safety is more important than, continuation of the conversation, but we really hope that you will have time to convey a combative greeting to our defenders, yevhen yevliv, a retired sheikh, a zsu fighter from

the horliv district and always to us, we just receive operational information from him. and as we have now realized that, in fact, we once again regret that on this part of the front, the shelling is intense, so they are trying to distract the armed forces of ukraine in this direction to horlivka, by transferring new and new heavy equipment along the front line to the south to avdiyka, now we will summarize all this with serhiy zgurets, director of the information and consulting company defense express, letter. another very important moment, let's say that in each, as he says, we have an accurate projectile , we do not shoot at secondary targets, i also paid attention to this, that is, the guys know exactly what is important, where the impact will be for the enemy of the preschooler, and as much as he can this blow

make life difficult for the enemy, their logistics, their, can change and spoil their plan. and this is actually very, very gratifying, because we root for our defenders. so, once again, at an interesting moment, if they introduce huge columns of equipment south to avdiivka, while not exposing the front, it means that they managed to, well, collect at least a lot of iron, precisely to throw them in the direction, and avdiivkas, this seems to be their goal now, because near bakhmut, on the southern flank , there is an advance of our brigades, yes by several hundred meters, several meters, it's actually very, very much, in another area they want to compensate for what is happening now, there or they just want to show that they seem to have some gains and actually, you don't need

to show them, they want to distract, i'm so i understand that it is in our power that the military command would praise this option: we stop our movement around bakhmut, transfer some units, for example, to the maintenance of the avdiivka, i think, let's ask about it, clarify whether it is good, we reason with you, such zgurets already with us, glory to ukraine, mr. serhiy, glory, good morning, we don't know if you heard our guests, yes, but i didn't, because they were making a connection, but i understand, the first question, in any case, avdiivka, which remains the most active part of the front, mr. serhiy, we have now collected a picture of what horlivka looks like, which is north of adyka, and our fighters say that large columns of equipment are being poured in the direction of avdiyiv, and they are trying to hit or logistics with fire control or the technique itself in horlivky district, does this mean that the russians actually want to create such a situation that the armed forces of ukraine will one way or another

stop the offensive in the bakhmut district, or start pulling. throw forces from certain areas of the eastern front to hold this area in the avdiivka area? well, in fact, now the enemy is trying to advance in several directions, avdiyivka has now come to the fore, given the activity of the russian forces involved and the fact that the enemy is really trying to somehow carry out, to continue offensive actions just from and from krasnogohorivka and from the experienced and watery areas, there, in particular in the direction of the steppe, if we are talking about, the north, there were certain advances of the enemy, the enemy there is trying to move towards the railway, but if we take into account the losses of the enemy in these areas and the assessments of foreign experts, our conclusions, then we

understand that the ukrainian armed forces are restraining the enemy, the enemy encountered both artillery and mines there. field, we see losses in the enemy's pronotechnik there of more than 36 units, and we understand that now everything will further depend on the balance of forces, the aggressiveness of the enemy and the stability of our defense. there is no need to doubt the latter, given that the fortification lines around avdiivka are built tight enough, while we understand that the enemy is now trying to get to these terekons in the north, to one of the terekons with commanding heights above this settlement. and we can already see that for the third day in a row, there is an air strike and artillery and attempts by ground forces to advance, and the main thing... the effort, i think, which is quite obvious,

in principle, it is precisely to complicate the logistical support of our group, which is located and receives avdiivka, there now , if you measure there, somewhere from the steppe to the north, it is from north to south about 8 km, that is, in fact, how the situation resembles bahamud, when the enemy tried to complicate logistical support and close the eyes under... southern ticks, now it somewhat resembles the situation, but we understand that now we have a qualitatively different artillery, and i think that these efforts will, well, the enemy will be defeated, although we understand that and then the enemy will try to somehow turn this part of the front into a success, because in other parts of the enemy there is nothing to be done, mr. serhiy, look, from two, from two sides, he is trying to assemble this picture, 26 tanks, this is for the past day. 50 bmp, i don’t count artillery systems and so on, these are quite high numbers , a catch, because there were 44 artillery systems, this is a very high

figure, because literally a couple of days ago there were lower figures, and we have colossal data on the destruction of the enemy’s manpower , 100 of these good russians, i.e. every day we see the expenditure of the enemy's forces increases, which speaks of precisely the intensity. against our defense, our artillery, mr. serhiy, and the russians themselves, here i am saying right away, i open the other side, i look at the epic losses of russian armored vehicles in avdeivka, they are the ones who write, and in this case a logical question arises, these moving columns and the speed of destruction of heavy equipment, they manage to replenish it, come out, as they say, in zero or in plus, or with such losses, we cannot say that every day they have the same armada, heavy equipment, pace, plus-minus, we must probably talk about equipment and manpower, because what we have to conclude, despite the fact that we estimated that the enemy's reserves are running out,

nevertheless, they were able to accumulate a sufficient number of forces, in their understanding, to start active offensive actions around avdiyivka, while maintaining the pace of offensive actions there in the northern lughan region, around bakhmut and in the south, that is, the question of... assessment of russian reserves, in my opinion, needs such careful treatment with on our side, so that we don't engage in such optimistic hopes that the enemy will run out of manpower or equipment, although yesterday there was an interview with budanov, who says that economic russia can conduct hostilities with such intensity by the 25th year, taking into account the reserves of equipment, the 26th year, and taking into account the mob resource, he says even longer, according to other estimates, it is until 2030, taking into account the potential mob resource that the opponents have, but after all, these are general numbers

and they essentially depend on how the ukrainian side will act, destroying the enemy, these indicators, a thousand soldiers per day, an absolutely good indicator, although i will remind you that when the soviet army attacked finland, it was the cold war, there were...' 160, soviet soldiers in one day, that is, in fact there, 100 days of the soviet army's offensive were at such a rate that 1,600 were destroyed per day. ugh. mr. sergey, we actually spoke with yevhen ievlliv from the horliv district a few minutes ago, and he told us that there is not a lot of ammunition, that is, there is no excess of it, we understand. that such a situation is normal during the war, and therefore they cannot... take it lightly , accordingly, they only hit very important objects, and in that way they undermine some logistical capabilities of the enemy, according to your

analysis and observation, how easy it is for them to move now to the temporarily occupied territories of the ukrainian donbass, the ukrainian south, to supply, deliver ammunition, equipment, transport people on time, are these logistical chains a little played out, because we see that they have planned to build a railway and an additional road in the south they started paving there, something is wrong, something is deteriorating in them, is it currently, unfortunately, everything is steadily improving, maybe, well, i don’t think it is improving, if we remember avdiivka again, then just a day ago, the highway between horlivka and horlivka was hit yasynuvata, this is precisely one of the lines of support for the russian group, which is now conducting offensive operations around... yevdiyivka, which suggests that the combination of storm shadow tracking systems for pinpoint , correctly selected targets by the ukrainian side is carried out absolutely correctly, which

complicates the enemy's logistics, if we are talking about counterbattery work, which is directed at the enemy's supply routes, it is conducted in the same way, here the issue is that a certain significant number of personnel was just accumulated for these offensive actions, but the actions of long-range logistics systems in depth, i think that they will continue and this is an integral component that is quite successfully implemented by the ukrainian armed forces, we are comforted that the states will give us switch blades, the 600 they fly correctly and have the correct attack system, i really wanted them to be here, as they say, they said yesterday, and today our guys are already on the front lines, but even when we talked with the officer, svobodivets, he said so, says , that even if the mavics come, we have to rearrange them for a week, that is, as now this, this component, which is becoming more and more important for deterrence and attack, that is, all these things that

we were promised, how quickly they would be in ukraine, b, on the front line, when we talk about the package of american aid, there are different ones delivery times, that's for sure, there, first of all, i singled out air defense systems of various purposes , which are extremely necessary for the protection and front line of our objects in depth, when we talk about american drones, then really, switch blade 300 is not very good for us.. . like the switchblade 600 much better they are made new they don't ship as fast as we expected but let me remind you that we have us made fenik drones which we have never actually seen the look of but for by the reviews of the americans, our military, we know that they are used for a sufficiently significant depth of the enemy's defense, in addition to fpv drones, that is, fpv drones are a maximum of

5-10 km there, and others. long-range barge munitions, it can be 50 km, and 100 km, and 800 km, when we are talking about individual samples already ukrainian development of strike drones, so the issue now is scaling, it is under control, as i understand both the president and of the minister of technology and the ministry of defense, i hope that this priority should first of all be developed for the account and capabilities of our defense enterprises and foreign supplies of frames shows that the rate of supply does not decrease, many countries also declare the supply of ammunition for air defense systems, so this gives such confidence that there will be no decrease in the rate of support for the ukrainian army . mr. serhiy, we have one minute left before the minute of silence, the tanks have to lead us somewhere, and that is good, denmark and the czech republic, but the question is how relevant it is now, because

we understand that we needed them more in beginning counteroffensive in the spring, and not now, when the rains are about to start? absolutely correct conclusion, indeed, the tanks should have arrived earlier, as well as a large part of the western aid, which affected the pace of preparation of our offensive, which began later than we planned, which gave the enemy an opportunity to pay off, and now we are forced to change the strategy, where the use tanks is already an auxiliary function, on the first line everything remains the same for the artillery. the amount of ammunition, and this is exactly what i think, will really decide the course of the war during the next one of the year, ammunition is in the first place, ammunition plus an army of drones, these are the realities , but once before they talked more about tanks, mr. serhiy, thank you, let us remind you, we were with serhiy sgurets, director of the information consulting company defense express, 9 o'clock is approaching, you know what i liked, actually, you can see now people sometimes stop at 9:00, get out of the car,

even. if she is on her way to work. 9, this is the time when we all together remember all those who died in this russian-ukrainian war. let's honor the memory with a moment of silence ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia.