tv [untitled] October 13, 2023 9:30am-10:01am EEST
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largely depends on how events will develop in the future. mr. oleksiy, budanov gave his assessment of how much longer the russian federation can wage war against ukraine, there is 2025, it is mentioned, the 26th, there are generally a lot of people in russia, taking into account the equipment and money and assessing this situation as a whole, as you how do you feel about this assessment, what is your real forecast, how long can russia still fight against ukraine, if, for example, it will have support from iran and north korea. it is difficult to answer unequivocally to your question, how much longer russia can fight, this depends on many factors, including the intensity of hostilities. in july of this year, the rozumkov center also did such a project, there is a publication on our website, an assessment of potentials, and in principle, these assessments coincide, well, i mean only with what about what.
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general budanov, yes, but there are many such assessments by foreign experts, and in principle, according to many parameters that affect the ability to conduct war, or the combat readiness of the armed forces, ukraine is inferior, and this situation cannot be corrected, inferior in human resources, and it is not only a quantitative one, although the number here is of course a key factor, as regards economic, military, potentials, then here indeed, well, with some disagreements, somewhere at the end of the 24th year, such very critical problems will begin in russia with war financing. today, russia spends about 300 million dollars every day, that is, it is a colossal amount. and the reserve that was
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created, the opportunities that russia had due to oil and gas revenues, they are also now, let’s say, essentially limited, exhausted, but to predict what the price of a barrel of oil will be, or how much russia will be able to sell this oil to alternative markets, how effective will be... sanctions, that is, there are a lot of factors that are difficult to calculate, definitely, but in any case, the russian resource is not infinite and even human, in this context, in the context of this interview that bodanov gave, it was also about the situation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, in your opinion, how high are the risks of undermining the plant by russian forces now, or not i know, its use in a more dangerous format than it is today , in fact, general budanov talked about not so much
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the physical detonation of some part of the station, er, but about the controlled leakage of radiation from its reactors, that’s basically it, this the danger remains, our energy colleagues, especially those who are specialists in nuclear energy, have described these scenarios in various ... sources, and, well, if so, to try to predict one of these scenarios, in my opinion, the most likely is that russia at the moment when will understand that they need to make another gesture of goodwill, to leave the station , then she may well create such a slow-acting mine there, that is, it is not necessarily an explosive, it is, for example, destruction, from outside the channel... external power, this is the creation
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some other prerequisites for which ukraine will have a minimum time in order to prevent this catastrophe, or is it, in other words, in the hands of russian forces, it still remains an instrument of at least some influence on the situation, an instrument of nuclear blackmail, the bahamud direction, avdiivskyi, kupiansky, if look at the summary of the general staff of ukraine, they remain complex, and the situation there remains complex, the concentration of russian forces in these areas is quite high, please tell me what you think, how do you assess whether the transfer of troops of russian forces there and the actual intensity of the fighting, increase, it was there that they stopped the offensive of the armed forces of ukraine in the zaporozhye direction, that is, this was the idea of the military command of the russian federation, which was discussed repeatedly, whether it was successful, what do you think, of course, this was one of the key goals.
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which pursued the russians with these attacks, and it is obvious that these goals were much more ambitious, the very encirclement of avdiyivka, and whether it pulled the ukrainian reserves away from the areas where the offensive is being carried out, well, in part, probably yes, but if we look at the regular reports of the ukrainian general headquarters, then, well , in my opinion, there was not a single day when active offensive actions would have stopped precisely in the southern direction or in the district of bakhmut, that is, the pace, maybe so. but to what extent is this exactly russia's counteroffensive in the avdiyivka area influenced this pace, it is difficult to say, most likely, these are the problems we know with intensive mining, with those engineering and defense barriers that russia had
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time to build in the areas of a potential ukrainian offensive. mr. oleksiy, very briefly in conclusion, literally we have 30 seconds, as you think, because according to the forecasts, there will be intense russians. the forces should also attack the energy system of ukraine during the autumn-winter period, are there any opportunities to protect the energy system, if not completely, then at least as much as possible, eh, then the good news is that some measures have been taken to physically protect its critical infrastructure, the bad news is that it has certainly not been possible to fully restore it, even to the state it was in last year. so back in october of last year, but what we need to understand, i have even first of all for the society, is that it is better to prepare for the worst case scenario, that is, that we already have experience, how to prepare for it, blackouts, blackouts can be , thank you, mr. oleksiy, unfortunately, we have it wrong
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for a long time, oleksiy melnyk, co-director of the foreign policy and international security program, coordinator of international projects, guest of our broadcast, we talked about, analyzed, more precisely, the statements of mr. bodanov in the interview with ukraine. the truth, where he talked about zas and how long the war can last, and that the world is on the verge of a global war. i remind you, you are watching the project svoboda ranok and don't miss it. already this sunday, poles will elect deputies and senators. these elections have already been called the most important in the last 35 years years the main intrigue of the election race is whether kaczynski's ruling law and justice party will come to power for the third time, or whether the opposition civil coalition with donald tusk will win. details of the election process. in neighboring poland and why ukraine is also waiting for the results of these elections, my colleagues will tell. but in ukraine, the holding of elections during the war is positively perceived by only 15% of citizens, as evidenced by the survey results of the sociological service of the razumkov center. is the ukrainian
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political community preparing for the elections and whether they will be held in conditions of a large-scale invasion, we will ask the representatives of the ruling majority. your likes are important to us, so please like our videos and subscribe. to radio svoboda's youtube channel and write in the comments the topics that interest you, which could become the topics of our broadcasts in the future. in poland, there are elections to the sejm, already this sunday poles can and should elect 460 deputies and 100 senators. the main competitors are the conservative ruling party law and justice and the liberal opposition civic platform. and besides the elections the parliament will also hold a referendum, at which several questions were submitted at once. as the results of these races. can affect relations with ukraine and about what this election campaign was like and what ukraine expects from them, we will ask my colleague, natalka volosatska, a correspondent of radio liberty in poland, joins our broadcast. natalya, good morning, please tell me how the preparations for the elections in poland are going, what forecasts
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are given by sociologists and those who poll people, and what are the consequences of these results can affect ukraine later? congratulations oleg, go vote. then you won't have the right to complain, that's how they joke in poland about the election, about the election, in addition to the campaigning of the politics of all parties, they call on citizens to come to the polling stations on sunday and cast their vote. political scientists predict that voter turnout will be approximately 60%. and such an interesting detail is that this year, for the first time , those who were born in the family when poland joined the eu will go to the polling stations. so, on sunday, poles will elect 460 deputies and 10 senators, the main intrigue is whether the ruler will come to power for the third time the party is right. justice led by yaroslav kaczyński or the united opposition, the civil coalition with donald tusk. observers say that these elections have polarized society and the fight for every vote is very intense, but in what direction will poland develop further?
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the most fundamental problem of these elections, and here we have two different perspectives from the side of the ruling coalition, positions, is the question of the relationship with the european union, whether we will consistently participate in supporting integration, or whether we will pro-european, will we take an active part in the creation of a pro-european policy, will we have claims against the eu, will we try to build some local alliances with, for example: anti-ukrainian hungarians or anti-ukrainian slovaks, the question of whether we will play against brussels or with brussels, this is the main stake of the elections ? observers call this election campaign exceptionally dirty . politicians call each other liars, thieves, traitors and bullies on tv screens. atypical methods of campaigning, chosen by some politicians, also yielded chimerical ones promises, one of the young candidates, in addition to election leaflets, distributed scented condoms signed with her own name to people , another candidate from a party expressing anti-ukrainian views offers
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to substantially increase assistance for childbirth, and also to give away 2 million zlotys to women who gave birth in a certain day. another politician advocated free driving courses for 18-year-olds, which is a huge expense, because for driving courses in poland you have to pay 3-4 zlotys. so, according to the latest polls, the leader of the race ruling law and justice. collects 33.5% of voters' votes, the civil coalition 28%, the third way almost 11, the gulfs are ready to give their votes to a little more than 10% of poles, and the party with anti-ukrainian rhetoric, the confederation, is in last place with 9.2%. let me remind you that during the election campaign, it was this party that actively used the ukrainian issue, in particular grain and refugees, called to deprive ukraine of aid and support, saying that ukrainians are not grateful. and since the electorate of the confederacy and the ruling party of law and justice in part
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intersects, then in order to win votes, peace also used the ukrainian issue. well, that's what political scientists say, at least. in particular, the ruling party extended the ban on the import of ukrainian grain, hoping to win the votes of farmers. and we have a bit of a co-pod here, we have a bit of a problem with grain, relations between ukraine and poland have become more passable, but this coolness is electoral, and therefore who... was not in power, with the exception of the confederation, but it itself will not rule, only in some coalition, then whoever is in power in poland, i can't imagine that relations between kyiv and warsaw will deteriorate significantly. well, actually, in the end, i will say that it is not the first time that ukrainians are very actively following the election campaign in poland, because since the beginning of the full-scale war, the countries have become very close, poland supported and supports ukraine, almost a million ukrainians received temporary shelter here, so everyone is interested, what will happen next, the forecasts of political scientists, as you can hear, are encouraging, they say that after the elections
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the tension between the countries will disappear, relations will improve and further constructive cooperation colleague thank you, natalie, very original approaches to how to attract the attention of voters in poland. natalka volosatska, about the situation and the election race that is going on in poland, she is actively following her in ukraine, as natalya said, because it is interesting in which direction the relations between the two states will develop further. but ukraine. they negatively perceive the idea of holding elections during the war. this is evidenced by the results of a sociological survey by the razumkov center. 64% of respondents are against the elections, while only 15% would support such an idea. the respondents did not decide decided on their attitude. those who support elections before the end of the war justify this by supporting democracy in the country and the need to show ukraine's democracy to the world. also, in their support , the interviewees explained the need to change the government, or to update it. but the opponents. the lack of money for the voting process is cited as an argument for elections during the war, and legal
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obstacles are the most common among respondents, because elections during martial law are prohibited. also, the negative attitude is justified by security issues and the impossibility of organizing the election process in the occupied territories and war zones. also, ukrainians are not sure that during the war it is possible to observe democracy in elections due to restrictions on rights, but if such elections were held, then according to the results of the poll, 15% would vote for old politicians, and 24% would vote for newly created political forces, for a relative majority, almost a third of the polled it would not matter if the party existed before or was just created. it is worth noting that this survey was conducted by the razumkov center at territories under the control of ukraine and along the combat line, and not along the combat line, from september 21 to 27 of this year, 2016 respondents were surveyed, the theoretical error, say sociologists, does not exceed 2.3%. meanwhile
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, incumbent ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyi says he is ready to run for a second term, but only if the elections are held during wartime. in case of its completion, he will not go to the second round. the president made such a statement in romania in an interview with local journalists. to the question, does he know when the war will end, he said he could not answer, however, says ukraine is now in the last and most difficult stage of the war. if the war continues - yes, if it ends - no , i can't escape during the war, i can't tell you the exact date, i don't think anyone can, i know that we are going to counterattack, that russia will go with. .. territory, i think i know when, but i can't tell you this, this is the last part of the war, this is not the middle of it, we have a lot of fear, money for weapons, but we are in the last part, the most difficult. elections in ukraine during the war were discussed after a visit to kyiv by the american senator from the republican party, lynzi graham, during the visit, he said that elections should be held in ukraine next year, even
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during martial law, arguing that this is a natural process for democratic countries and it is necessary to reboot the government, at. therefore, all types of elections during the war are clearly prohibited by the law of ukraine on martial law. later , ukrainian president zelenskyi stated in an interview that he is ready to hold elections if the west will pay for it and is ready to send its observers into the trenches. at the same time , he is the head of the public network opora, which monitors the elections in ukraine. olga aivazovska says that it is impossible to hold democratic elections in the conditions of war. mykyta putturayev, people's deputy of ukraine, chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on humanitarian and information policy before our broadcast, good morning, mr. mykyta, good morning, thank you for taking the time, but after mr. zelsky's statement that he is ready to run for the second term if the war will continue, the issue of whether there will be elections in ukraine or not, please tell us how ukrainian politicians are preparing for the elections now actively, they are not preparing, there may be an even bigger discussion on this issue in the parliament, look, we are
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we are not preparing for the elections, not because we don't want them or are afraid of them, but because we all understand the complexities of this process, i want to remind you, i am currently reading a lot of delusions, so as not to express myself even more harshly, unfortunately, from people who i am very many years old i know, and i still respect those who write that the government wants, the government never wanted it, we have never heard a single statement that we want to hold elections during the war, but i can say that although we are at the official level and we say that we, the western partners, are not forced, as a parliamentarian i have much more freedom to talk about certain things, because i am not bound by official obligations, as the president or the minister of foreign affairs and so on, so i can say , that for the first time i heard from western partners the question of whether we will whether we will hold elections or not, and
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if we will then when, it was in february 23 of the year in vienna at the winter meeting. obssi, then i heard these same questions, and here my colleagues from the opposition will not allow me to stop, because artur gerasimov and ivan krulko also took part in that discussion, it was in vancouver at the summer session of the obssi in the 23rd year. so these questions were constantly being asked, to which we always said, i can personally say what i said , i said that without a lot of money, which still needs to be calculated for the first thing, to make a register, now to make a register, it is actually equivalent to a census, and the census must be done inside ukraine, this census must be done in europe, this census must be done in the united states, in canada, wherever there are ukrainians, this is one time, it is a huge job and a lot of money. so, the second issue is the issue of changes to the electoral legislation,
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again, we are accused of wanting elections through action, action is an auxiliary tool. i have one question: how to ensure its appearance, i put it to our western colleagues, people whom 5 million voters for borders, how to do it, at the expense of what opportunities, paper ballots, definitely not , i think that it would be possible to negotiate with the same american partners so that they would provide us with their technology, these machines, at least for foreign voters for voting, i saw how it works in america, i was more of an observer at the elections, i think that this is one of the possible solutions. next, active. so, when i also hear from the experts that there, yes, of course, it is necessary there, it means a morning vote, like, three days earlier, well, excuse me, there is only one country that held elections during a war,
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that's the united states, during the civil war, congress was re-elected, and presidents were re-elected, and then they always. they have, i may be wrong now, but it's definitely two weeks, and it's a postal vote, and it's a decision for a regular army, why at least two weeks for us, because we have units on pre-rest, leave at best once a week, therefore, accordingly, if we want the army to vote, it must be given to the people the opportunity to quietly, when they go to rest, to vote, to send ballots by mail, and for this process i am relegating. at least two weeks, so this is only part of the problems that we face, if we hold elections, then none of these problems will be discussed at the moment... with our partners, who, of course, what if they want , in order for us to hold elections, it would be worthwhile for them to finance them and also provide technical assistance, i am not
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talking about what i rightly, absolutely said president, security issues, surveillance issues in dangerous areas, and so on, and so on, sir, you spoke very angrily on this question, i will not even ask additional ones, i will have one more about two minutes, 2.5 more we have, because there are some interruptions with the communication, with the sound, deputies of the verkhovna rada. moved from place on the issue of banning the moscow church in ukraine, in particular , the necessary 226 votes were collected so that this draft law banning the activities of the ukrainian orthodox church of ukraine was put to the vote, what are the prospects of this project, do you think there will be enough votes to support it? well, i hope that if we already have 226 signatures, then we will have at least 226 votes, so i am much more optimistic at the moment, i hope that we will have more and i hope that at one of the nearest plenary meetings we will still solve this issue and let's put a question in this, well, not a period, three periods, because after pi, then eh, more, it means that we will have work ahead of us to bring order in this area, already
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using the new legislation, and who the biggest opponents of the uocp, who are currently in the parliament, are those people who defend to the end that there is no right to ban and no need to ban, there are people who are, let 's say, agents of influence, because they relate directly to this one from ukrainian churches, yes, so there are people who are simply confused, bewildered by false interpretations of what this law is about, this law is not about a specific church, this law is not about religion, this law is not about faith, it is a law about religious organizations , any, which ukrainian religious organizations, none rights during the war to the survival of the ukrainian state and nation, cannot have any connections with religious organizations subordinate to the enemy. thank you, thank you very much, mr. nikita, for being involved and taking the time. mykyta puturaya, people's deputy of ukraine, chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on humanitarian and information
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policy. we raised two issues in our conversation, the issue of probable elections in ukraine under martial law, as well as the issue of banning the uoc-mp church. 226 signatures were collected by the deputies in order to submit this issue to voting in the hall how the presenters of the state tv channels of russia earn points in the eyes of putin. can russian presenters and so-called journalists who call for the killing of ukrainians and contribute to the russian-ukrainian war be brought to justice, as well as whether the west is tired of supporting ukraine. british journalist, writer, specialist in media and propaganda in modern russia, peter pomarantsev, told about this in an interview with my colleague katerina nekrechi. recently, there was a statement by margarta simonyan, who spoke about detonating a nuclear plant bombs over siberia and to exclude. everything, what they say, this statement of margarita simonyan, it is thought out by someone, they do it so specifically, or is it just that each
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specific person, in this big propaganda game, is improvising? no, well there, no, there was always a system about it that gave you room to improvise, but the goal was always discussed. like a reality show, on many reality shows. especially in russia or america, the purpose of the characters is discussed with the producer, and then you play, you know your role, you understand what is the goal, and then of course you have freedom, and whoever performs better, and partly the one who performs better in putin's opinion, gets more points, and he gets more points. propagandists are rarely prosecuted. historically, propagandists rarely go to court, there is one case in nuremberg, one case in rwanda, half a case in yugoslavia, but propagandists move away from the crime zone and say, it's just words, i'm not deciding anything, freedom of speech, i didn't know anything, freedom of speech and i didn't know anything, our
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goal is to prove that they all know what they have our goal is to prove that they know everything, that they act in coordination with the military and with the leadership, and that they sometimes play an auxiliary role in crimes, and sometimes a very, very main role. they present themselves as people who are involved in crimes with pleasure, they elevate themselves so much in putin's eyes, because you have to cover yourself with blood as much as possible if you want to climb the scale, no, the whole system is interesting, those people who did pir -companies that did zet-advertising calmly go to italy, in general absolutely, we do not see them, as if normal work is done, no, those who are loud are quite... easy to catch them, no, we need the whole system, we need to disrupt the whole system, we need this not to be repeated in other countries, we need every person in
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to this system, responsibility, while they have no responsibility, well, it is difficult to imprison them, but there are many different forms of legal proceedings, there are processes, there are sanctions, look, i do not fully understand our strategy of sanctions in our sense, i i do not fully understand our strategy of sanctions, our sense of the western partners, no one clearly told me their purpose, the purpose is simply to negatively affect the military economy, or the purpose is to sow a social crisis? i don't see any serious attempts at the second. well, at this rate, the war really looks like it will be. at this rate, unfortunately, russia will win, if the west is not serious about undermining russian military technology, then it will be very difficult to defeat russia. if they can continue non-stop to produce rockets that kill children using western technologies.
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then it will be very difficult for them. win, they will continue to bomb, bomb and bomb, is there a threat that society in the west will eventually simply say to its own presidents and prime ministers, well, maybe it is enough to help ukraine and pay so much attention, maybe it is necessary to internal to deal with questions, are there such threats, we listen to it on the maps, we hear it every day, and most importantly , louder, stronger and stronger, but what is it? you say that only a few countries are important in the west, all countries are important, but a few countries are critical: america, germany, britain, in britain no one changes the course, in germany, everything is always progressing sluggishly there, the shifts to the anti-russian position are historic, but the main country is america, but really the most important, of course, there are risks, if we are talking about
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the american people, i have been reading a lot of sociology in this regard question, no, people support ukraine, if you ask the question whether to help ukraine or pay for our hospitals, of course they will always tell our hospital, you can't ask the question like that, if you ask the question so stupidly, you've already lost, but americans love purpose and plan and action, all their movies are about it, their whole national psychology is about it, when the american government says we're going to support... people really don't like it, they want to know how we're going to win, no how fast, no one asks to sell, but what is the goal, the americans love the goal, and how it is presented to the americans so far, they do not like it very much, they think that it will be forever, that there is no end to it and so on, you have to understand that unfortunately, ukraine is no longer in the first columns, it is in fourth or fifth place, high. in
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consciousness of people, but far from being in the first place. you can find the full version of this interview on radio liberty's youtube platforms. let me remind you that there are two of them in ukraine, the youtube channel of radio liberty and radio liberty ukraine. short forms, long broadcasts, subscribe in order not to miss the most interesting. in addition, subscribe to our telegram channel, where information is quickly shared, checked, verified, which is very important, in particular, in the conditions of military operations. i thank you for being... with us, thank you for yours activity in the chat under the broadcast, we read every comment and the topics you suggest there can definitely become the topics of our broadcast when we talk about them in the editorial meetings, take care, thank you for being with us, this is the freedom of the morning project, with we will meet with you traditionally from monday, and with you, that is, with the viewers who watch us on the espresso channel, as well as with those who watch us on radio svoboda's youtube. before meeting.
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it's 10 o'clock on the clock, it's time to find out what 's happening in ukraine and the world at this time khrystyna parubiy works in the studio. a 62-year-old woman was injured as a result of shelling in golyaipol, zaporizhzhia region, the head of the regional military administrator, yurii malashko, reported. last day, the russians struck 150 strikes on 22 locations in the region. drones fired at chervone, orihiv, and novoandriivka, and aircraft struck novodanilivka. as a result of the attacks , 21 residential buildings and infrastructure objects were destroyed. the russians continue to terrorize the front-line towns and villages of kharkiv oblast.
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