[000:00:00;00] nagorno-karabakh, whether it is a conflict in transnistria or a conflict in syria, they are always interested in keeping it alive all the time, thus having the opportunity and important influence on one and the other side, but what, it seems to me , what putin wants to achieve, trying, trying, offering himself the role of a peacemaker, is to reappear on the er, international arena, reappear among world... leaders and show that without russia it will not be possible to cope with such a conflict, and i do not exclude at all because russia itself was interested in that to provoke such a conflict, and we know that the leaders of hamas have visited moscow quite often recently, and therefore it could be absolutely interested in

returning to the international arena precisely because of this conflict, but i think that history has already shown, and of course, russia's aggression or war against ukraine has nevertheless taught world leaders not to trust russia, not to trust putin, and they will not agree to this proposal if it is about the situation in israel. mr. andriy, today vladimir putin is speaking for the first time. went on a foreign visit, well as a foreign visit to kyrgyzstan is considered a foreign visit, but for the first time since the international criminal court issued a warrant for his arrest, kyrgyzstan has not ratified the rome statute and beijing has not , well, china has not ratified the rome statute, so next week putin will be in china, everything is clear with kyrgyzstan,

the cis leaders will be there, and putin needs some support from the inner circle of the former leaders of the former post-soviet countries, of course, in the case of china, especially on the eve of xi jinping's visit to the united states america and the talks with biden, in your opinion, to what extent is putin able to influence xi jinping in this situation, or at least offer him something, because it is clear that biden will have the chinese leader on his side, especially many issues in american-chinese relations, which require a personal conversation between the two leaders, well, look, it seems to me that after all, china is changing its position with regard to russian aggression in ukraine, although it still remains quite

cautious, and i think that this caution china is actually connected with the question of taiwan and the reluctance to further aggravate its relations with the united states, but putin saw that after the visit of saint-pin in moscow, in fact , china, when everyone in russia expected that china would take their side, china. did not take such an unequivocal position, and i think that this is already progress and a step in the right direction, in the direction of its support, uh, maybe not directly and not immediately of ukraine, but actually supporting those efforts on its behalf, so that press further, press further on russia so that it withdraws its own

troops from ukraine, they, and i think that now putin is actually doing this in order to try to contain china's position and leave them as much as possible on his side, which is precisely why this activity in relation to beijing on the part of putin er, nevertheless, er still, putin remains... quite isolated in the international arena, and these trips of his, well there, let's say to kyrgyzstan, it's still more of a formality than some official international visit, which, well was perceived as once, as the leader of a state

that has an influence on world politics, now it is it looks more like a regional visit, with all due respect to kyrgyzstan, of course, but mr. andrii, at the same time russia is going to withdraw the ratification of the treaty on the comprehensive defense of nuclear tests, on october 5, vladimir putin proposed it, the state duma, it is certain that he will do it, because it is only formality, and putin articulates, the foreign policy of the russian federation, does this mean that if the ratification of the comprehensive nuclear-test-ban treaty is withdrawn, russia will immediately begin nuclear tests in order to show power , including to china, i think that russia will continue to blackmail the world with a nuclear threat, and the use of nuclear weapons, and these statements about

withdrawing from the treaty on testing nuclear weapons, and attempts, or the statements of certain russian politicians that russia can use nuclear weapons, i think... i think that this is still blackmail, that in fact russia understands how tragic and catastrophic the consequences can be for russia itself if it uses nuclear weapons weapons, first of all, this will definitely turn away from russia, even those countries that still more or less maintain contacts with it, including china, india, and this will definitely cause a reaction from... the united states and the european union, and they will certainly be significantly tougher measures against russia have been adopted than those currently in place, so i think

that russia understands this and is blackmailing it, but there is no need to be afraid of this blackmail and it is necessary to continue to put pressure on russia to the extent that it is weakened in the confrontation with ukraine. mr. andriy, putin always raises the stakes, and obviously, nuclear weapons are the highest bet he has left, now, in your opinion, here 's how to knock out this argument and this highest bet of putin so that it is not the one he constantly blackmails us and the world, i think the western world needs to clearly say, uh, what will happen, what will be the consequences if russia tries to... use nuclear weapons, and it should be a warning, it shouldn't be an after the fact when they use those weapons , although i do not believe that they will use it, but it is necessary to show what will happen, what will be the consequences and show that

we are not afraid of these nuclear weapons, and then, then, putin and the kremlin will stop using this card against the west. thank you, mr. andrii. for talking to you, it was andrii deshchitsia, a diplomat, the former head of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014, friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, put please like this video in order for it to be promoted in youtube trends, and take part in our vote, there is literally a minute left, we are asking you about who you trust the most, the president, the zsu, the church, or volunteers or your option, please write in the comments below this video. now 83% of those who watch us on youtube say that they trust zsu, 8% the president, five the church and five the volunteers. if you have any other opinion,

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war - different theaters of war. this assessment in the context of our war with the russian federation was heard against the background of the current events unfolding around israel. but it is quite likely that this is far from the last escalation and not the last war that has shaken other countries of the world. such a conclusion has already been drawn by a number of international analytical structures, and to them, by the way, the statements of the chief executive have been added. of the intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine kyryla budanov, who stated that now we see several conflicts that at first glance seem to be regional, but they are all connected to each other and to the same countries that are involved in these processes. so, yes according to his objective, or rather subjective assessments, we are quickly approaching a global war. what are the conclusions or forecasts of what a global or world war means primarily for ukraine, what

should be prepared for, what will change and what priorities should be determined by ukraine itself and its partners in these conditions. we will talk about this with our leading experts in the next issue of our military program. my name is serhii zgurets, i am the director of the information and consulting company defense express. which together with channels espresso strives cover the most relevant trends and events in the security and military environment and now we are joined by anton mikhnenko, an expert in the field of security and defense technologies, mr. anton, glad to welcome, see and hear on the air. i congratulate you, mr. serhiy, i am glad to see you, first of all i would like to ask you whether you personally agree with the conclusions of the same kirill budanov, other experts, that we are already approaching a global or world war so rapidly, and then what tension points may

arise , if in addition to our war with such other directions or sources of opposition will appear in russia and where they may be. in principle, if you just paint the current picture that we have now, in the current situation, because we have the war in ukraine, the escalation of the territory of israel, we have, we see the ambitions that china currently has in relation to taiwan, what are the relations between by the united states and china, and in general, we see the situation that is happening in africa, which is the influx of refugees now from africa directly on the territory of europe, that is, in general... we see such a general picture, which can give the impression that the world is really approaching a global war, let's say so, but nevertheless, i would be more optimistic, an escalation in one or another region of the world has always happened, an escalation happened in israel as well, and the war also happened in israel not for the first time, it also happened in

other regions of the world, but i would not dramatize it, he made such and such specific conclusions from the fact that there will be a global war, nevertheless, there are signs of an escalation. such a general security situation in the world there are definitely risks, there are definitely risks and risks that can lead to such serious, let's say, including a global war, but let's still hope that this will not happen, and that there will be enough tolerance and consideration of politicians, the military-political leadership and of the united states, and china and other countries in order to prevent such a global war from happening, let's say, well, you see, i see that i adhere to more optimistic approaches than a number of our experts, but in any case... are moscow's ears listening in those or in other tension zones, when we mention the situation in crimea , you remember, they captured crimea, then they start the 15th year, the enemies start hostilities in syria, they start a war in syria, which distracts

the attention of the world community there, then it takes shape this flow of refugees to europe, which also, well, forces europeans to look at their internal problems, unexpectedly, which have arisen in their field, and then they ask, do you see any, do you see any such unmasking signs that say that russia is actually involved in the situation there and around in israel and in other regions of the world, some such markers that cannot be ignored, if frankly, then of course , ears stick out, ears stick out, i think that they are pricking these in moscow and if you just pay attention again allocated to pay attention specifically to israel, then of course, pay attention to who benefits from it, who benefits from the aggravation of this situation, what is the reaction of the russian federation to the current moment in relation to the events in israel, or has the attention of the world community switched from ukraine, from ukraine to israel , if just to find an answer to these questions, then

we can see, indeed, now the world community will focus all its attention on israel, the world community has moved the issue of ukraine a little. in the world media in reuters, bbc, cnn, they constantly depict the situation that is now in the gas sector, the reactions of the russian federation, we see that they, in principle, are instigating in the majority to a greater degree officially declare that let the parties find a common language, israel and the palestinians, so that there is no confrontation, but unofficially, we see how russian propagandists portray the situation in israel, how they portray israel itself in a negative way, and therefore we understand that in fact , in this context, the spirit of moscow is being cut off, they distracted attention, they, in addition to distracting attention, they are trying to spread their own narratives at the expense of these events taking place in israel, its key narrative in the media space is that ukraine allegedly sells weapons on the territory of israel, and in this way to influence

the position of the world community so that our the partners looked more carefully at ukraine in the context of the provision of weapons, limited even the provision of weapons, and these are again the steps of the russian federation aimed at driving a wedge in the relations between our western partners and ukraine, the possibility of ukraine receiving weapons and military equipment from the partners, and this all just proves that the russian federation is hearing about how they use israeli drivers, by the way , no, not only these examples are related to the fact that they began to transfer the weapons captured in ukraine in order to create these driving companies, in order to complicate the supply of already european or american weapons, in budanov's interview, there were two more interesting fragments, he talked about the fact that work had just begun on the territory of lebanon this sputnik radio station, in arabic with such a russian narrative, and what, the second thing that really interested me there, is that on the 24th

of september, the russian space apparatus was there, which carries out radio reconnaissance, interception of satellites, satellite signals, and there was also moved to another orbit, just in case, the zone of israel fell into the zone of operation of this russian satellite soup, that is, in fact , we can say that they knew, prepared and provided assistance not at all to israel, but to those countries that started, well, these actions with an attack on the part of hamas in israel, but, but i would like to ask whether we can now expect risks for european countries, because literally yesterday or the day before yesterday there was information that the gas pipeline, or the cable networks between estonia and finland, had just been disrupted. that is, this is another... example, which can also be said to have hardly happened without russian participation. what are your assessments of this

case and what threats may exist for europe now from the actions that russia can provoke among nato countries? an interesting question, in fact, we just have to understand that everyone and the partners, i’m sure they also understand this , the russian federation is used to acting asymmetrically, if they fail to act head-on, fail to achieve their own goals at the expense of their military capabilities, they cannot on to win on the battlefield, and we see that they cannot do this, they are trying to act asymmetrically, using various monetary opportunities, gas blackmail , we know very well how they have used it in the recent past, the creation of certain foci around the world, the aggravation of relations let's say, the united states or european partners with other countries, in africa, in asia and so on, that is, they are trying to burn this fire of danger, to create this global war so that

the whole world is threatened in, let's say, in such global confrontation, and against the background of this confrontation, they are trying to find their own capabilities in order to achieve their own goals, this is a tactic, strategy, you can call it whatever you want, but these are the actions of the russian federation, which are traditional, and i see that the europeans understand this perfectly , we understand this very well, and for what is the key question , what to prepare for in the future, it is definitely necessary for europeans to monitor those opportunities and those, shall we say, threads that still remain in europe's relations with the russian federation, in europe's relations with african countries, in europe's relations with asian regions, because where there were areas of interest, let's say, european countries in africa, we know the situation, in small, by the way, a vivid example, there are dangerous moments , that they will think about, try to inflate these firing positions... points around the world and thus distract the attention of the europeans, who believed that these regions were, let's say, or in partnership relations, or were ready

to further develop, so that they somehow on the other looked at the europeans, i.e. the main task of the russian federation now is to destabilize the world, they are focused on this, we have to understand this perfectly, i think that the europeans also understand and see this, and these things that are happening on the border of finland and estonia , on the border of finland and the russian federation, they will continue to... move on, russia will try to provoke, take actions in order to divert attention, at the global level, we see how they are doing in ukraine in general, if we simply analyze the line front, which in the same way ukraine opposes the russian federation, we know that we are advancing in the south, russia at one time tries to attack in the kupinsky direction, thus acting asymmetrically, it also tries to act in the south, also to divert our forces and means, that is, it is such a characteristic method for the russian federation. in relations or in general in the conduct of hostilities, and we have to get used to it, mr. anton, you said, predicted and desired actions on the part of european

countries, then the question arises, what should be the strategy of the ukrainian parties, because as we can see, the threats are growing, the possibility of scaling military conflicts is increasing, the focus of attention of our partners may be unfocused, then the question arises, what priorities should ukraine form in these conditions in relations with partners and possibly give... to some measures of our own direction, which would not depend on the wishes or visions of our partners, well, by the way, you have raised a very important question and a very urgent question, because constantly living, let's say, on a needle from our partners in the context of arming military equipment, we cannot be like this all the time, and the partners also perfectly understand that they have their own interests, we have our own opportunities, and they also have to cover their own needs, and therefore in ukraine, for ukraine, it is very important and it is very relevant, this is the development of the defense-industrial complex, separately, in general, the security and defense sector , if we simply talk about the defense-industrial

complex, then this is production and try as much as possible: move in the direction that we should be minimally dependent on partners on key samples of military equipment. okay, we get f16 there, but we have to understand that service, repair, equipment , we can do in ukraine, if we are talking about ammunition of different calibers, then of course, again, a relevant and important issue is the creation of a whole line of what ammunition , which will be manufactured in ukraine or in neighboring countries, or by creating, through the creation of separate enterprises or joint enterprises or the creation of separate ukraine or outside ukraine, we must equip our capabilities as much as possible, and this is very relevant, you see how dire the situation is with israel, when all the experts started talking about the fact that the united states will divert attention to israel, they will not be able to provide both countries with weapons, and the united states officially had to make an official statement, to say that we are able to help both israel and ukraine, but nevertheless, the precedent itself is evidence that we

should pay attention to this, we should prepare... for what could happen at any moment in the way that the united states will have their own needs, and we understand what they may arise and in which region of the world, and we should prepare for this yesterday, as they say, not tomorrow, not the day after tomorrow, already yesterday, it is good that within the framework ramsteim, which took place recently, raised the question of strengthening ukraine's capabilities, and precisely under this question hides the aspect of strengthening defense and industrial capabilities, so that we in ukraine can manufacture... the lion's share of armed military equipment for equipping our forces defense mr. anton, you have close contacts with various enterprises of our defense industry, you also have contacts with foreign companies that already work in our market or are trying to cooperate, which specific problems or areas require such special attention from our authorities, the ministry of defense , so that

this short-term or long-term efficiency was the most productive, what makes us want to work even more efficiently than we have worked so far? look, actually in us the key point, well, two, several key points, let's say this , is the defense industry, we know very well that in ukraine it is still divided into private and state segments, if the private segment, in principle, it is trying to develop independently, including , developing their own capabilities, both on their own and in partnership with other countries, there are a number of private companies in ukraine that already have contracts and memoranda. regarding cooperation with partners abroad, this greatly strengthens the capabilities of our defense industry of the complex the second point of cooperation is also the private sector, the defense sector in ukraine with foreign companies, again, the private sector is flexible enough, it is able, in particular, to adapt to the repair of the military equipment that is supplied to us by our partners, the same ones, let's say , radio-electronic reconnaissance equipment

, radio-electronic warfare equipment, equipment, other military equipment, the same artillery pieces, missile salvo systems, that is, the repair of this equipment, it can also be a keel the share that should be allocated to both the public and private sectors, of course, but the creation of conditions at the legislative level for these enterprises to work effectively is a very important point, because with the private sector it is easier for foreigners to find a common language, it is easier to develop, if we talk about state segment, we have been talking about the reform of the shipbuilding industry for many years, about its implementation. yes, a certain process has started, but again it is taking a long time, the public sector must be joint-stock, there must be a joint-stock company, we must allow the possibility our foreign partners can become, can buy a share of these joint stock companies of the state segment, in order for internal funds to appear, appear, which can be invested in the development, production and in the development of the creation of new

models of military equipment, that is, the process, if simply the process , renewal of the state sector of the defense-industrial complex, it is very relevant and still remains, and we have to bring it quickly enough, let's say at the moment that satisfied our partners and was flexible enough for the state itself, because this potential is quite large, which is not yet fully used, regarding the creation of joint ventures for the state segment, the same issue has been discussed many times, so that our state enterprises have the opportunity to create joint ventures with foreign companies again after all, the process of corporatization here rests on one of such key moments, this is again the creation of a corporation of joint-stock companies, and it must be moved from the point where it is now taking place, it is happening, but slowly , it needs to be accelerated, again, if we talk about regulatory regulation, it is definitely the creation of joint ventures with foreign partners, the creation of the most adaptive