tv [untitled] October 13, 2023 9:00pm-9:31pm EEST
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i wish you a good weekend, take care of yourself and your family, see you on monday, bye. israel has ordered a million palestinians to move from the northern gaza strip to the south and given 24 hours to do so, israel says it wants to destroy the hamas group after militant attacks. he talks about this war. on bbc news ukraine live from london, i'm evgenia shedlovska. the israeli military scattered such leaflets over gaza. millions of people were ordered to evacuate within a day. such a warning before an attack. however, the un and international organizations state that it is impossible to do. and for the seventh day, israel
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is conducting a military operation against the palestinian group hamas, whose militants entered israeli kibbutzim and cities on october 7 , killing hundreds of people and taking dozens hostage. israel responded to such an unprecedented attack with strikes on the gaza strip and a blockade. the gaza strip is a territory controlled by hamas, a densely populated area with over two million people. city districts are marked in yellow on this map. now the israel defense forces. ordered half the population over a million people to evacuate from the northern part to the south, leave the area above the wadi gaza river, this is where it is marked on the map, that is, leave the city of gaza itself, leave two large refugee camps and do it in 24 hours, which is impossible to do, so massive evacuation in such a short time is impossible, so they say in oon, broken roads are destroyed. houses, these are all
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obstructions, and oon calls upon israel to withdraw his order. at the same time, the hamas group, which, let me remind you, controls the gas sector, called palestinians not to respond to the evacuation order, calls it propaganda. the bbc's jerusalem correspondent, tom bateman , is following what is happening. from the city of gaza, some civilians went south. they are already suffering from the consequences of the humanitarian disaster. they set out after the army of israel gave more. million inhabitants of the gaza sector 24 hours to leave their homes. danger is everywhere - says gasam. how long can this last, there are no houses, the whole district is destroyed, wails a woman. gaza is full siege, the only source of information is a message from the israeli army, leaflets dropped from the air, ordering the civilian population to leave the area for the sake of their lives, because hamas started against. war, and hamas tells people
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not to obey the order and calls the leaflets a psychological operation. however, such a mass evacuation of the population in one day is impossible, and international organizations warn of catastrophic consequences. such forced relocation of civilians with 24 hours' notice is a rare violation of international law. we have information from our representatives on the ground that the feeling of... panic and chaos among the population traumatized by the unprecedented bombing is simply limitless. the israeli bombardment continued until morning, people do not want to flee for their own lives if they can help save others. while there are many dead again, emergency facilities are running out of electricity. the wounded are still taken to the overcrowded. hospitals, which are dangerously low
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on fuel and medicine, israel says it will not lift the supply blockade until hamas will release the hostages, and with the onset of the day , rocket attacks on the territory of israel from the gaza sector resumed. at the same time, relatives of israelis killed and missing are desperately seeking information. grandfather was killed by paratroopers, her grandmother was captured. now, at a time of increased hostilities, she fears for her grandmother and other prisoners. american defense secretary lloyd austin arrived in israel, pledging full us support, and met with israel's defense minister. our neighbor hamas is the counterpart in gaza, an organization funded by iran. i can't let the world forget about brutal attacks by hamas terrorists on israeli children. israeli women,
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israeli old women and entire families. washington does not want to let this war spread, to arm the entire region. however, israel's efforts to push a million palestinians south in the gaza strip risks further instability, all because it would bring them closer to the border with neighboring egypt, which has already made it clear it will not accept any refugees. there are many scenarios of how this crisis could spiral out of control and israeli tanks are still coming into position along the perimeter of the gas. israel declares that it is striking the hamas group with its strikes, in particular, it seeks to destroy the network of tunnels that hamas has built under the gaza strip. israel is gathering troops on the border, preparing for a ground operation, we will talk about what it might be later, and now about the situation in gas. since the beginning of the israeli
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strikes, more than 1,500 people have died there, and many more have been injured. journalists from the bbc arab service were in the main hospital in gaza and talk about the shock they had. my name is adnan albursh, i am an arabic correspondent the bbc and a resident of gaza, here in al shshifa hospital, there are bodies everywhere, the wounded are begging for help, i will never forget those cries, in the hospital, among the dead and wounded, my cameraman mahmoud saw his friend melik, he managed to survive, but the family melika died. this is our local hospital, inside are my friends, my neighbors, this is my community, today is one of the hardest times of my career, i have seen things that i will never forget, this girl's house
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is destroyed, her relatives are dead, and she is begging for help, my daughter is the same age, me i would like to hug her, in the chaos we are trying to see what is happening, umm mohmed mother , she is sitting next to the bodies of her relatives, they were killed during the israeli bombing of one of the densely populated areas of gaza, they bombed our house, like all the others, while we were sleeping , there were no resistance fighters, only civilians lived in the house, 120 people. the corridors of the alshifa hospital are filled with bodies. the employees of the morgue can no longer cope with the influx of the dead, and the bodies have to be placed on the ground at the entrance to the hospital. no one would want to go through these events, but i feel helpless in my
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hometown, where the dead are not honored with dignity, and the wounded must endure pain. this is the story of bbc correspondent adnan. more than a thousand people died in the attack of hamas militants in israel. one of the places of mass killings was a music festival. journalists were allowed there for the first time, and bbc correspondent lucy williamson visited there. since saturday, the venue of the festival near the gaza border fence has been blocked inside the closed military zone. this is our first time. allowed to enter this area, this place became the starting point of the attack, almost everything remained as it was on saturday morning, abandoned cars and personal belongings scattered on the ground, tents, stages, everything seemed to be frozen in time, you can only imagine the panic
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of the people, in which they tried to escape. on saturday morning, when people were dancing here, armed men broke in, abducting and killing them. the music was replaced by the sounds of gunfire. you realize that this is possible, but in reality you cannot imagine that it will happen, especially on this scale. it's just something unimaginative that doesn't fit in your head. we just heard a few shots, an israeli soldier... who were here quickly ran to the other side of the field. later , the army informed us that someone with a knife had been spotted nearby and had been shot. we have just been told
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to leave the area as there is active fighting. we heard several shots. it was a press trip to a secure location led by the military. currently, it is difficult to hide nervousness even here. a week ago, people rested here, trusting the strong image of the israeli army and the fence on the gaza border. but in one day , everything changed forever. and the israeli defense forces report that they conducted local raids on the territory of the gaza sector. so what will happen next? well, a unity government and a military cabinet were formed in israel. tens of thousands of israeli troops have been sent to the border with the gaza strip, so there are preparations for a ground invasion. what is the difficulty of a ground operation in gas, what is the difficulty of fighting in urban conditions? analyzes. bbc correspondent, jonathan bill. at first they were taken
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by surprise. but israel has long been preparing for the next stage of this war. the military call it minigas. the multi-mile urban combat training center was created to prepare for a possible ground assault. it even includes mazes of tunnels. hamas is believed to have built one. more than a thousand densely built-up streets are an advantage for those who defend themselves, everywhere there are buildings in which to hide. intense israeli airstrikes destroyed many houses, and theirs the ruins will become obstacles for the invading forces. even israel's superior air strike force will not be able to destroy the army underground. hamas is very prepared, they have prepared an underground. surrounded by landmines, however, from a professional point of view, i do not understand how the goal
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set before us by the government - to destroy the military forces of hamas - can be achieved without the introduction of ground forces into the gaza strip, this is not the first time that the israeli defense forces will enter gaza. however, similar operations, the last of them in 2014, were short and limited. veterans say this time israel will have to pay a high price for achieving its goal of defeating hamas. then it was decided to contain terrorism, to weaken it, unlike today. we now face an unprecedented threat to israel itself. if we tolerate what has been done, it will be our dramatic mistake. over a hundred israeli hostages captured by hamas, and now... an assault, but action must be taken,
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hundreds of thousands of reservists have dropped everything to join the units located near border gases, and they are ready for battle. when i heard about this, the second i told myself to come here to join my troops, where were you? in srilanka, you were in srilanka and immediately sat down in... so we would like to live in peace, unfortunately it is impossible, we love life, so we have to fight for the right to live, the new wartime government has not yet announced its next steps, but israeli tanks and troops are ready and waiting for orders. israel is concentrating its forces on the border with gaza. if israel wants to achieve... its goal of destruction hamas, this will include a ground assault. however, recent history shows that invasion does not
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always go according to plan. from vietnam to iraq and afghanistan, even the world's best-prepared troops can get stuck. and by the way, about the labyrinths of tunnels of the hamas group under the gaza sector, you can. read on our website bbc.ua in this article. in general, on our website bbc.ua, there are many materials that will help you better understand this conflict. and if suddenly you missed our, our live news broadcast, watch it on our bbc news ukraine youtube channel. and subscribe to our pages in social networks so as not to miss the most important news. well, with that i say goodbye to... see you next time, watch us on monday at 9 pm. good bye.
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good health, ladies and gentlemen, my name is mykola veresen, until approximately 10:55 p.m. you and i will discuss together, maybe even think about what from...' in the world, in ukraine, we will definitely start with ukraine, and then there will be israel , and poland, and the united states, but anyway, let's start with ukraine, let's start with our homework. oleksandr musienko, director of the center for military law. of research with us will now appear on live air, mr. oleksandr, good health, thank you for finding time for us, so let's go with you to avdiivka, and you will tell us, it is written here, my editors, said that this is a strategic battle for the gate to donetsk, how true is it, how strategic is it,
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how true is the gate in donetsk, i see on the map that it is one way or another close to donetsk, but why do you think the russians are so stubborn, they attack and counterattack there and somehow try to do something, why avdiyivka has become, as our russian friends would say, a stumbling block, well, let's first talk about the gate, there is a gate, i i completely agree, and now you know that if you look at the photos published by some media, you can see that in donetsk you are directly... the smoke from the battles that are taking place in avdiivka, and this is clearly visible, this is a very serious proximity, the question whether we tried to open it these gates to donetsk recently, and whether this particular gate was a priority from the point of view of the development of the situation and the situation at the front for us. this is a debatable issue here, in fact, as for why russia
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started active hostilities there, first of all, it was predicted, because they were throwing grouped troops there, it did not happen yesterday and not the day before yesterday and not a week ago, in fact, an impression is formed, and this is already possible, not even an impression, it is possible to draw conclusions that the enemy wants to enter the winter with offensive actions in the east, i.e. to try to create tension zones again, as happened with bakhmut last year, now they have three such directions developing in the east, that is, the kupien-lyman region, if possible, bakhmut and avdiyivka, the main three , which means why avdiivka is being stormed actively, because, first of all, the logistical shoulder is short from the occupied territories from the territory of russia, directly. second, they already had initial positions before this, because this is
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the situation on the map that was being shown now it did not arise yesterday or even a week ago, it was ... even earlier and it held like this, that is, at the beginning of this year in the winter, when active battles were going on in the district of bakhmutu, the enemy tried to surround the avdiyivs, they did not succeed , forgive me, their attacks were not successful, and they suspended this initiative, as it turned out, for a certain period of time, now again, they began to actively advance with really large forces, it is really not easy for our forces there. to date, and it seems to me that they are pursuing two or three goals, the first goal is to intercept the initiative from us in the south for good, i.e. to break our counteroffensive pace and stop it altogether in the melitopol direction, and to divert our attention here to the eastern front. the second is to demonstrate that
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the russian troops seem to have seized the initiative from the ukrainian forces, and the third. this is no matter how there is a propaganda information effect that, in fact, the russian army is still able to demonstrate some movement and is able to bring some victories, and here the answer is directly about avdiivka, the fact is that the location of the russian military units before that, it was in such a way that it allowed just to start the movement, well, as for the encirclement, as they are doing it now there, and you know, well , somewhere...' russia talked about the fact that in that direction they will create a cauldron for the ukrainian forces, there will be an encirclement, this is such a manic pursuit to create an encirclement that they have not yet created except for the exception, the only thing is that it was in mariupol, but there is a completely different situation, look, you used the word predicted , and i then
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have a question as to how much i understand on everyone... in the areas of the russian-ukrainian war, the russian-ukrainian front, already since the summer of this year, there is an impression that everything is predicted, that the russians, the russian general staff understand what the ukrainians will do, the ukrainian general staff understands what the russians will do, or is it true that war has become predictable at all? yes, that's the way it is, you know, i will say that since the time when the americans ...' invented the u2 aircraft, the u2, there is very, very little that has become possible to hide, in fact, in terms of movement, redeployment of units. today, all modern means of intelligence make it possible to see this, you can’t just hide underground somewhere and , i don’t know how there are trolls, some or miners, maybe
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it’s for the east, of course, and a suitable comparison is to pull out a group of troops imperceptibly, well, it doesn’t happen like that , that is, it is all monitored, fixed, analysis is made, approximate approximate forecasts are made, the intentions of the enemy are analyzed and accordingly , a certain character of... actions is predicted, plus to this we can add that the russian-ukrainian war is now is actively covered in the media, international, absolutely, starting from the leading publications, ending with ukrainian, and even the same russian ones, let alone the media, let's say, not only the federal media, but also the so-called military ones, etc., etc., etc., plus there are many osints, intelligence communities, in various social networks, and information is hidden, let's say, it's actually very difficult, and let's say, to create some, well, i'll say this, nevertheless, effects of unexpected mottling, they are still possible, that is,
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to deceive the enemy in a certain way, this was demonstrated by the past the year is still like that kharkiv region, it must be remembered, it was not so predictable, that is, certain elements are preserved, but in the end, of course , everything is quite noticeable and everything is visible, and therefore...' let's say, it's easier to evaluate and forecast, one more question then, then we'll move on to other topics, but it is not a draw, how can you conclude that it is a draw, they know all of us, but this draw is in our favor, i will tell you what i see, my opinion is different, it is different from the opinion, now , i see, there is such a thing, you know, there is some excitement in the fact that oh, what will happen, oh, now russia is going to and we do not have great gains in the counteroffensive, and i will say the following thing: we very often hear such a wording as a war of attrition, so let them say which, how is it better to exhaust
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the enemy who outnumbers you in terms of human resources, first of all in terms of numbers, but also constantly attacking you, of course, being in active defense and destroying them as much as possible, like now under avdiivka, as it was on lymanskyi in the... direction of 25 tanks in 4 days, well that’s what an indicator, that's why i don't see fatalism in this, and i think that's exactly what it is active defense our forces know how to stay very well and what the enemy has moved is bad for them because they will suffer even more losses, and for us it is important to hold, hold the front and destroy and wear down the enemy, that's how the war of attrition works , being on the defensive, even now active for a certain period of time, we will do it even better, so i agree and i can say that in our favor, now more strategic things are like this, so here such and such
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appeared a phrase, a secret weapon from ukroboronprom with a range of 1000 km, what is it, how much in general , i will not even ask the question like that, i understand that maybe our academics, our engineers, technologists, can come up with such a thing, but for production, we can imagine what we are doing there five such missiles per month, or 10 such missiles, or three such missiles, that is, when it is one, it is great, it speaks of the mind of ukrainian science and technology, but it does not mean that it is a factor during war well, i have to say, it's hard for me to actually say, to say what it's about, i don't know, i'll say candidly because i also heard this information, that's all, nothing more, and the fact that , as far as is known, it is currently there at
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the testing stage, this weapon is still there, well, very well, i want to remind you that back in september of last year, there was an article generals zaluzhny and zabrodskyi in ukrinform, where it was written about ukrainian capabilities, and that it is extremely important for us to produce our own tanks. long-range, well, it’s not even long-range, it ’s a classification of medium-range missiles, from the 1000th, so it’s already going, but the long-range, in fact, it’s a medium-range missile, it's considered, well, in our understanding, it's long-range, because it's long-range, we don't have the longest range, so of course it's important that this missile program moves forward, as i understand it, and that may be a partial answer to your question about what with production? that our partners can help us in this, because recently you can often hear that at various venues, international, and ramshtai,
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the recent one... also, it is said that one of the points of discussion is the defense industry, development defense industries, the development of the defense industries of ukraine, together with the west, it seems to me that it is possible, here is the key to the answer, that it may not even necessarily be in ukraine, in one of the nato countries where it is produced, but it obviously has natural tests to be from ukraine to russia, another question is also the same, this storm-peter is a gordareid, as volodymyr volodymyrovich mayakovsky wrote, probably for vladimir vladimirovych putin, because now this storm-peter is constantly on the lips of the president of the russian federation, this is something real, because when i start to delve deeper , all the scientists say it's absurd, i'll explain for the audience, it's a missile with a nuclear engine, not nuclear stuffing, so it's not poison, it
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could be nuclear... probably, but it's not nuclear, the idea is it can fly for an infinite time, and, but the russians also show off very much, they say, this is the same putin , scientists say, listen, well, it’s flying above you, first of all, it’s very easy to find, because it just follows a radioactive, permanent, - firstly, secondly, if something is under this, under this missile, it is permeated with radiation. that is, it is so worldwide a dangerous story, how correct am i in my intelligence, that it is more likely to bluff and be more scared than to actually do something? absolutely , and this is happening, let's say this, you know, it goes like a spiral constantly, i want to remind you, a year ago, at about the same time, somewhere around the same time, the end of september, the month of october, russia
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announced that they send the largest submarine, the largest submarine with a poseidon torpedo for testing, that is, a poseidon torpedo is like a petrel, only a torpedo is a torpedo that is designed to cause a tsunami that is supposed to sweep the east or west coast of the united states. accordingly, they have to raise such a tsunami wave that will be several tens of meters in height and simply wash away everything with it. by a few hundred kilometers, and by the way, this is also a project that was deconcerned , which was carried out by the soviet union in the 60s, even in the late 50s, they kept this program, then it was written off because it was unrealistic, well, that is, it cannot be performed, by the way, what happened, where were these tests posydon, and no one found it, a year ago, everyone was looking for intelligence, did not see it, i think the same applies to burevysnik, and we see
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that just when autumn is coming. this is the period of escalation, ah, another cascade of the kremlin's nuclear rhetoric, and again , please note that this happened continuously. the poseidon was supposed to be tested last year with russia ending its obligations under the npt, and now they are threatening to withdraw from the npt. that is, i think that it's all connected to this and it seems to me that this is the only thing that russia can scare the west with, what they can constantly scare and talk about, nuclear escalation, nuclear weapons, tests, we will conduct tests, we will withdraw from the treaty, let's do something, if you don't want further escalation, so that petrels with posidons don't fly to the usa, let's sit down and negotiate with you, that's about it, they give it out all the time, thank you very much. oleksandr
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musienko, the director of the center for military and legal studies, was with us and explained to us what was going on what is happening on the battlefield and what is happening in the heads of russian mozhanovs, and now we will talk about what is happening in the world elites, and we will talk with yuriy sherbak, diplomat, public figure, writer, ambassador of ukraine and israel, the united states and canada, good health, mr. iriyu, thank you for finding time for us, thank you. we are old acquaintances, so it's simple, keep this in mind , absolutely, i have, yes, therefore, and the question is very, the first question is philosophical, when we see that mr. zelensky is going to israel, and mr. mahmoud abbas is going to moscow, this once again emphasizes that two blocs are being created, though without...
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