[000:00:00;00] issued, thank you very much, oleksandr mosienko, the director of the center for military and legal research, was with us, he explained to us what is happening on the battlefield and what is happening in the minds of the russian mozhanovs, and now we will talk about what is happening in the world elites, and talk we will be with yurii shcherbak , diplomat, public figure, writer, ambassador of ukraine and in israel, in the united states and in canada, good health, mr. iriyu, yes. we are old acquaintances, so it's simple, keep this in mind, absolutely, i have, yes, therefore, and the question is very, the first question philosophically, when we see that mr. zelenskyi is going to israel, and mr. mahmud abbas is going to moscow, this once again emphasizes that two

blocs are being created, although without... the berlin wall already, they are so dispersed, they are scattered that north korea, china, some countries of the middle east, iran, russia, iran, there and something else, in short, and on the other hand europe, the united states, japan, australia, thinks there, india, where to dock there or here, latin america , africa, in short, we, we stand on... the eve of a new new the division of the world, where there is white and black, and that is, it is already obvious, obvious to everyone, where there is white, where there is no terrorism, and where there is black, where there is russian, khamaziv terrorism, and so on, and so on and the like, what do you say , mr. yuriy? mr. mykola, i agree with you that we are standing on the eve of the division of the world, we are not just

standing on the eve, we are already witnesses and participants of this division, but this also indicates that we are approaching the third world war, if we look at history the first world war and the second world war , we can see how blocks were already formed a few years before the outbreak of the war, well, we remember the entente and the german-austro-hungarian block, there was, we remember, there was a british, british-french block, against the hitler's reich and so on, and today we observe the same phenomenon, and our , i think, a very big, well, chance for ukraine, lies in the fact that we have joined

the democratic camp... as they say poetically, the camp of light, goodness, democracy, freedom, we joined ukraine, because we are very long years of our independence, oscillated between different camps and were like a certain object that floats and does not know where to land, were permeated by russian agents and so on, today this one, let's hope that finally by... our uncertainty has ended and we are fine know where we are, our place, with whom, and who are our allies, and we see these allies, and thanks to them we can wage such a bloody war with such a well-known rival and enemy, and what you said that trips , well, i 'll be honest with you, i'm still not sure how much israel will be

now accept... zelensky, on the one hand , he simply cannot refuse netanyahu. i watch israeli television every day, and i see how sobering there is, how much they already understand today that russia has shown its anti-semitism, its black face, and that the whole hypocritical mask of putin is hidden behind it is bloodshed. attack by hamas, because this war in the middle east, it is in the interests of russia, it is in the interests of putin, because he has the straightforward, primitive thinking of a kagibist, and he thinks that uh, if israel is drawn into this conflict, then the americans will definitely be drawn there as well, they will take sides, and well

, they are on the side of israel and israel is on their side, and that the americans will stop helping us, this is primitive, this you know, that 's linear logic, but it's history, rivers. properly and she knows a different logic, thus, i will tell you even more that in my opinion , in general , two international organizations of the un type will be formed, perhaps, it is not excluded, one is ramstein, that is, relatively speaking, 50 countries, which are in the camp democratic, and the second is that continent, it is not an axis of evil, in my opinion, but a continent of evil , because you look, belarus, russia, china, the democratic people's republic of korea, iran are countries that are neighbors in

which have common borders, and this is a massif, a huge, eurasian massif, a massif, and there are adjacent iraq, next to it, next to pakistan, a number of arab countries and so on, and that's why it all works. such a rigid demarcation, and ramshtein shows us that this particular organization seems to me to be a prototype of some future international, security organization, and international organization of cooperation and peace. mr. yuri, look, usually people don't talk about this, because no one wants to test nuclear power, the nuclear potential of different countries, but you and i are courageous people. and i still propose to talk about it, if you look at this series of countries, as you say, from belarus to the far east, to north korea, china, then they are weaker in both conventional and

nuclear weapons, well, china has 300- 400 warheads, america has 500, there is something there, russia has five, that is, they are balanced, so to speak countries, russia and the united states, and china, well, it is 10, 15, almost 20 times less, and we will not say that technologically, europe and america exceed, well, listen, america has 12 aircraft carriers, china cannot to make a second one, well, they seem to have two, but one here at the mykolaiv plant was made 30 years ago, they dug up the remains and cannot create a second one, that is, technologically they are lagging behind, what then is the purpose of these countries... barbaric, let’s call it so that they want, knowing that they will not succeed, anyway, no, no, mr. mykola, we can’t do that, this is also, in my opinion, a very linear logic , you understand, first of all, the use of, say,

50, on one side and on the other, from russian and from american nuclear of strategic charges, exterminates humanity, because winter is coming, nuclear and a nightmare begins, and it doesn’t matter how many nuclear warheads china has, or whether korea has 5-10 or 100, that’s not the point, the point is that let’s assume if china takes advantage of today's strategic situation, and it is very dangerously close to the third world war, and you look at the facts that have already been made public today that, well, this is definitely a russian attack on estonia and on finland , interruptions, fiber optic connections and interruptions and an explosion on a gas pipeline, an underwater gas pipeline, in the baltic sea, this is

absolutely, you you see, this is already the use of the northern flank, because russia is now very worried about the events around the antarctic, we are arctic, sorry. they declared their supremacy over the arctic there, but now america and canada are participating in it confrontations, that is, this is a very serious, geopolitical game has begun, and so they are counting on it, russia, and i just think that the next, what will be the next step, what will they be able to do, what kind of provocation, now with regard to china, let's say china attacks today

to taiwan, there will be a completely different type of war there, there will be a naval war, well, america is unlikely to use nuclear, nuclear weapons against china, and america will definitely not be able to occupy china, so the conventional forces, let's say, how to say, cannon m' yes, it can play a big role, we we cannot discount the actual role of such conventional chessboards. forces, because nuclear forces, they will just automatically lead to the death of humanity, and hardly anyone is interested in that, so there can be such a game, if there is a landing of chinese, chinese marine marines in taiwan, what should the americans do, should the americans be sent there aviation, it will be a naval battle, so the americans are now trying to create a block there. which will resist

the chinese invasion, you are right, you named australia and new zealand, there is also japan, undoubtedly, japan is very afraid of china, that is, it is such a game that we still do not know today how it will end and god forbid that it stops, but you see, events are developing in such a way that it gradually, who could have thought when it began in 14- last year...'somewhere there they occupied crimea, then obama did not pay attention, he said, this is a european matter and does not affect us, but today it is already global, it has not yet become global in the direct sense, but it is a global war, because it stuck somewhere there, someone has already counted about 140 countries, in one way or another it will affect these countries, this war, which is already going on two.

fronts, on the ukrainian front, on the israeli front, and god forbid, another front may open, and this means that humanity has no medicine, that is , there is no way out, but when we talk with you, i analyze at the same time, i think, well, there is no such organization , there is no such authority, some , i don't know, there, brzezinski or kissinger, came out, everyone listens to him, how wise he is, he said, like that, everyone is crazy. okay, that's a good idea, come on, there's no such thing, you know, and me too i sit and think, and then, how, that is, one madman in the kremlin moved this tsunami, in fact, in world politics, and this tsunami is raging and no one knows what to do with it, unfortunately, you are right, although i will tell you that you, you say that there is no such authority, it does not exist, and the organization will unite. nations throughout the history of their existence showed very

limited opportunities, limited , they had some very positive things, there, they stopped some conflicts or tried to prevent genocide, but in general they did not stop the korean war, on the contrary, they took part in the korean war, in the 50th year, nor the vietnam war or so on. but there was a force that, uh, regulated the processes , well, we lived for something like 70 years without a world war, this force was called the united states of america, and it was the world gendarme, you remember, and we remember the time when america was at all , the greatest power in the world, when china languished there in poverty, but today... it has changed and with the beginning of the presidency of trump,

this crazy and conscious or unconscious agent of moscow, america has lost its role as world gendarme. biden is trying to restore the world role, but already less, with less effect, less results, that 's the problem, russia now thought that america is nasti. weakened, that it is possible to start these actions, this crazy guy who is sitting in a bunker in russia, putin, he understood that there is a chance for him to enter this terrible world history as a bandit, as a murderer and as an aggressor of the world, in why the whole problem, but from the third side something needs to be thrown in, something, something positive, still optimistic, when

looking at the entire structure of the russian federation, i see that it is a colossus on clay feet, because not only in the military, when i look at the finances, there are problems, when i look at the economy, there are problems when i look inside at the national or international relations, there are problems, and when i look at it, i can't understand how it even holds together, this huge monster, under the leadership of one person. a person who definitely does not have enough intelligence, who is in the far east, who is at war in ukraine, what about bread, what agricultural products, what with the ruble, as here, how simply it is impossible, that is... that is not why tyrannies alone leave, they simply cannot, today, unlike in the middle ages, when there were kings, command such a huge, huge flock of some problems, dangers, challenges and so on and so on, what about russia, mr. yuriy, what is your

opinion, please tell me, your opinion is absolutely correct, mr. mykola, but let's also give a case study ... all the weakness of russia, even the power structures which they could not resist him, and he reached moscow almost freely, handsome, although he did not have the same number of fighters there, this proves that russia is very weak inside and that the time will come when a black swan will rise above it, and it will...fall apart, we don't yet know where it will start, how, although we believe that it will come, this time of payment for all crimes will come, but i want to say that russia is based on the so-called deep people, who since the 15th century, at least all the time

he was brought up for the first time in servile obedience, his own monarchs, their autocrats and their genses... and its president, dictator, firstly, and secondly, he was convinced of his messianic greatness, of his superiority over the whole world, that is the problem, we should not discount from, in general, the terezivites, precisely the role of that people, and there is such an opinion that it was not putin who led this people behind him, but this people led putin behind him , that is, this average, very mediocre person, putin, absolutely, it is known that it is, in a very primitive way of thinking, absolutely with crazy people those ideas, historical, a person who is not

knows, she is not knowledgeable in either history or philosophy, but she, this person, putin, she followed those internal currents that have existed in this people there since the 15th-16th centuries, and this messianism, look, this divine election, which was also initiated in dostoevsky's works, that profound anti-semitism, which dostoevsky also loved very much, it is not for nothing that it is said that a portrait of dostoevsky, then his, hung in the rai office from hitler's office. evaluated as antisem, it is all deep, so popular, and there it will be the most important, the most difficult, if even it will collapse into a number of territories, there, a number of lands there, or demi-states, all the same , this spirit of the people will remain, and there

you have to think about how to do it all, how to re-educate it, yuriy sherbak, diplomat, public figure, writer, former the ambassador of ukraine in israel, the united states and canada was in touch with us, now there will be an advertisement, before the advertisement i will have time to attract attention in just a couple of minutes, as soon as you saw yuriy sherbak, in 1986 we have already forgotten, because in we are at war now, there was a chernobyl disaster and for a long time people did not know in fact, what is happening there, and for the first time in the summer of 1986 , a great story was published in the youth magazine. mennyk was still yury sherbak, that he was neither a diplomat, nor a public figure, nor an ambassador, that was exactly what was described there, more or less, well, how could we know then, when everything was classified, but still, the first truth came out from yury

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will happen, we will discuss with him a lot of points that really, for me personally, i have not yet understood to what extent , what is happening in israel, what is happening between hamas and the armed forces of the state of israel, i have not yet understood, but i hope that thanks to a former diplomat or, just an analyst, israeli arkady milma. i will succeed, they say that 10 seconds, and 10 seconds have passed, oh, and we see mr. arkady, and mr. arkady was born in lviv, and now we will speak with him in two languages, i will speak to him in ukrainian, hoping that he is her he remembers, he will answer me in russian, because it's been a long time, maybe he'll try ukrainian too, i don't know, i'm already here, i don't know, thank you, mr. arkady, for finding time for us, thank you very much, and the first question that i have is, well, it is very, i would say speculative, and no, and it is,

i would say, very unpleasant, these are massive. this is what we saw the seventh-eighth from hamas, is it ratio, or is it emotio, is it just the hatred of the hamasites for jews, i just don't like and that's why i kill, is it some kind of task, i i can never understand a sadist, he is a sadist, because he is a sadist, or some senior boss told him, go and kill as many as possible, because we need it for something, then... is it right, is it an emotion, these inhuman actions hamazu to the citizens of israel, i welcome you, i understand the ukrainian language , it is a little awkward to communicate in ukrainian, because for many years i did not speak the ukrainian language, but i studied er, in a ukrainian school,

so i know the ukrainian language, i hope, more , several months in ukraine after the war, i i will be able to speak in ukrainian, with your permission i will switch to russian, your question is a very correct question , unfortunately, the answer is that this is a cocktail of the most real sadism, since some time ago a document marked top secret was already shown, which already our soldiers were able to find hamas, whom they shot, and it is clearly stated that

the team kills civilians, rapes , decapitates children, burns, mocks, and so on and so on and so on, so this is a mixture of sadism with instructions, and the kind of people those who do this are really not people, now several testimonies of interrogations of these people have already been released, they look like people, but they are not people, it is difficult. to explain, yes, they seem to have some kind of human form and appearance, but their eyes are absolutely crazy, their appearance is absolutely, sadistic, complete misunderstanding of what they are doing, yes, but it is not because they do not understand what they are then in a state of effect, yes, because they are precisely sadistic, our psychology simply cannot

perceive you, this is normal, what they do it's terrible, yes, that is, this is sitting... "yes, they told us, we will do it, yes, we did , we killed, yes, blew the trumpet, yes, burned, yes, yes, we did, yes, everything ok, but something is so bad, arkhady, and now the question, look, well, i will switch to ukrainian, because we have a special law here, such that we need me to speak ukrainian with you, thank god that you understand ukrainian, you can, you can speak ukrainian, now there are calculations that i am asking for forgiveness, we have a siren now, yes, you have to wait, i have to, i'm with my family, i need to be there right now, you're on the air, we're going to our bomb shelter now, you'll see how the door opens, don't turn off, let

the camera work, we're interested in how it looks. mamat, they tell me, it's called mamat, in every apartment, or almost every apartment, in all modern apartments there is one room, called mamat, and mr. arkady goes there now, therefore, therefore, he goes further, to seize gas, is to lose the israelis. they say it will cost the israeli army a total of 15,000 men, so it won't just be for for the israeli military, what do you say , will israel go for it, bearing in mind that 15,000 people, if it is true, will die, in