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bribery and violence. already this sunday , parliamentary elections will be held in poland, among others, the ultra-right, as the poles call it, also participates in the race. media pro-russian party confederation, which is for according to opinion polls, gets to the parliament. let's talk about what it means. well, israel officially ordered residents of the gas sector to evacuate within 24 hours. the un criticized the order and said it was impossible to implement. what will happen when the 24 hours are up? about it today in svoboda live. crimes in the military. and the vlk, the sbi investigates 260 criminal proceedings, some of the episodes got into the network and became public, and that is why we can have at least some rough idea of ​​what violations are in question, well, for example, this video was distributed on the network 11 october, it shows that the episode took place in

front of witnesses, two men in military uniform, under the indignant shouts of passers-by, forcefully push a civilian into the building. what preceded the incident and the circumstances of the event are not reported. the authors of the video, however, report that it was in lviv, well, later it was indirectly confirmed in the lviv tsk, there they reported that they had appointed an official inspection, shoot it, now it’s just for the investigative team, well , similar episodes only in the last month in several appeared on the network, so on september 20 at in the same lviv region , the deputy chief of one of the departments of the sambir district police station and the military serviceman of the driver of this department were detained , who were involved in the beating and illegal detention of a man. the investigators established that the employees of the tsk received the victim in the premises of the military for about a week. they starved him , beat and abused him, or he

voluntarily came to the military medical commission. later it turned out that this man, who was detained illegally, tried to go abroad, well, the head of this tsk nazk revealed a million. assets that did not correspond to his official income, well, this is ternopil , people in uniform are trying to forcibly push a man in civilian clothes into a white minibus, the man is holding on to a pole, but he is being forcibly dragged towards the bus, it is clear that the woman is filming the conflict on her phone , but they are trying to take it from her, it is the phone on which she is filming, the pre-recorded footage is dated october 6, it is approximately ternavskyi street. and according to the fact of this incident , the incident of the ternopil regional tsc later reported that an official inspection was scheduled, but the military hinted that the conflict was provoked by citizens in civilian clothes, well, this

is also ternopil, and also a video from a week ago, on the footage, people in military uniform push a man in civilian clothes into a minibus, he resists, but men in force is used in the form, there is no video. sound, so the essence of the claim is not clear, it is also not clear who these people in camouflage are, but in the explanation of the video, the readers who sent it to the editorial office of the 20 minutes publication in ternopil claim that the video employees to the military, later another video was made public, in which two lying men are being beaten by the military in the tsk, here we are showing it now, among them, as our journalist colleagues from ternopil claim, was the very same man who was packed into a green minibus, well, this video caused an absolute resonance not only in ternopil, but throughout ukraine, in particular , the ombudsman dmytro lubinets said that he was starting to investigate this incident, the sbi reported that the commander and soldier-grenadier of the ternopil tsk had already received suspicions about we will talk about all this in detail later, my colleague, iryna

bilyakova, a journalist from riaplus and 20 minutes in ternopil, joins our broadcast, iryna, good evening, good evening, i congratulate you, iryna, you were one of those who, as a journalist, undertook to investigate all these incidents, let's take the last incident, when we observed the beating of a man, do you know, first of all, who he is, have you found out in what condition he is and where he is now, for what purpose they were beating him, they wanted to mobilize, if so, whether they mobilized, whether he is being treated, or they, the thing that as part of the investigation, we, our editors found not one or two beaten people, but as reported by the sbi and the specialized prosecutor's office, and we found three, er, this man who is being beaten in the video in the foreground , this man, we found him, or rather, his relatives found us, when we made an announcement on our facebook page and in the telegram channel, about the search for the victims and or their relatives, or at least

they gave us some information about where those people are now, so that absolutely nothing was known about them, relatives of this the man who is being beaten...' in the foreground in the video, and this man also confirmed that it is really him and that it is really him in this video, first they pack this green bead, now they just go, the footage from the video goes , and then beat the military in the walls. we had the opportunity to talk with the relatives, they told me, i don’t want to convey the terrible and unpleasant details, but that the man was beaten, the doctors discovered that the man had a concussion and broken ribs, now he is giving a statement to the sbi, participating in all investigative actions that maybe, well, the investigation into this fact is ongoing, we also discovered it, but first

, it was already the third victim, whom we identified and found, when we reported on two, previously, on two victims of beatings in the tcc of people, er, we managed to find out their names and surnames, and it was by these names, by our own sources, that we found them, and it was by these names and surnames that we called for emergency help. and to the emergency hospital , respectively, whether an ambulance was called and whether they called someone, that is, they called the surname of these men, whether they were transported by ambulance to a medical facility, the general director of the emergency medical service, oleksandr hipka, confirmed that these two men were transported to the ambulance, to the emergency hospital, and later, the director of the emergency hospital also confirmed that these two people were admitted to the hospital, but

they did not require hospitalization due to the severity of their physical injuries, and they were given recommendations and sent to the actual hospital. irina, we, we, we, let us talked, also, we turned to the dbbr and asked about this very last incident, when the beating was recorded, and here... what we were told in the dbbr, let's listen, then we will return to the conversation. it was established that around 22:00 on october 6, in the center of ternopil, a grenade launcher soldier, together with other military personnel, stopped a local resident in order to check his documents, this is what has already been established, and they saw that he was born in murmansk , russia , they offered him to sit in

to go to the police station by car, even though it was night time, after the refusal of the ternopil citizen, they started to push him to the car with straws, and hit him, in this way he was taken to the premises of the tsk, later, as already established, and on the video, we saw that one a mobilized soldier, the soldiers beat him directly in the premises of the military headquarters, and on it , a soldier-grenadier and the commander of the security department hit the men who are lying in bed. although it was established that the beating was also preceded by a conflict between the victims, with regular army, well, that is, we have to see two sides with you, that is, the men in sambor , who were illegally detained there for 7 and 10 days, they ended up in the tsk, as established , after illegally trying to cross the border, that's right, these men, we have already seen the result of the fight with you, but the investigators established that they entered into a conflict with the troops, they were in a state of alcohol intoxication and, according to witnesses

, they tried to beat the guard and take his weapon, the guard himself, who was on duty that moment in tka, he wrote a statement to to the police, this is so that you and i understand the full picture, and not the torn context , when the video is simply on social networks, and, accordingly, there is indeed a suspicion of torture, as you have already noted, it was reported, the suspicion of the soldier was also reported... to the machine gunner in the illegal deprivation of liberty of a citizen, we are talking about the fact that his villager was pushed into a car, and now motions are being prepared to choose preventive measures for the suspects and to suspend the motions also to suspend them from the arrests positions, iryna, we just heard the position of the dbbr and we heard there that there were alleged violations , including by civilian men, and someone was involved in a conflict there. military personnel, do you know about this side of the story, how

the victims, these men with whom you spoke, described this process to you, absolutely nothing is known, and we literally learned about this version the other day, when we were preparing the newspaper here hand and hand, when, in particular, we had the opportunity to talk with all the victims of the three that we identified with by their relatives, this story was not made public. that there was some kind of conflict with the officer on duty, the officer on duty wrote a statement, in particular , on tuesday, when the newspaper was submitted for printing, neither deber nor the specialized prosecutor's office informed us about it. and, but, in particular, of those two victims, who were mentioned at first, denis and ivan, ivan from ternopil, and denis, a resident of bakhmut, in the evening, on tuesday already after handing in the issue of the newspaper, his mother contacted me about this denis, this denis , which was packed in white lilac

or green, we cannot establish, v me, i.e. some puzzles. they don’t agree which one of them, because the investigating authorities name two victims, we clearly established three on the same date, it all happened on the 6th of october 6th, so three went to hospitals, but for some reason only two appear, this oleksandr, who is packed in a green bead and then in the foreground they are beaten, we singled out these three victims from the number, that is, we established it, identified it for ourselves. and two more guys remain, denys, who is from bakhmut and ivan, who is from ternopil, we also talked with the family of this denis, by the way, my mother called me, she is a military servicewoman and she is currently serving, and the eldest son , that is, denis's older brother, his own, is also currently serving near avdiivka, that is,

there are two close relatives in the family who are serving, in what way, let me know. can be mobilized, although my mother claims that he has this way, given that two close relatives are serving in the armed forces, at the moment he cannot be mobilized, iryna, iryna, please tell me what resonance this story had in ternopil and in general, whether contacted you after that, maybe other people who suffered the same way, but their story was not filmed and known publicly, quite a resonance, i don’t remember for a long time, i have been working for 23 years in riyaplus for 20 minutes, but i don’t remember such a resonance cases, there were facts of beatings, there were people who applied, they simply did not collect such burdens, let's put it this way, and literally yesterday people approached me, but i cannot make his data public yet, because we are checking everything, he stated that on the video of

the beating, he recognized the person who on july 19 he was also ... allegedly detained and taken to the military and for four days they beat him, destroyed him, in particular drove him, called an ambulance, he had his shoulder sewn up, his brain, he had bruises all over his body, well, all this information needs verification, er, the reader provided all the information he had and video, evidence, but for some reason i am surprised that the person... did not contact the law enforcement authorities about the beating in the walls of the military headquarters, he managed, as he called it, stuck, which does not disclose in any way, well, in a word, we will check it, and what do you know about these in fact employees who were involved in all these incidents of beatings, they are working, they are on the sidelines, because the dbbr clearly

articulated that suspicions were announced to them, and whether from yours, from the information you have, or from whom the suspicions were actually announced, does anyone want to avoid punishment? well, suspicions were announced, at first, they said that the criminal proceedings were ongoing, in connection with the excess of authority by a military person, and now it is about torture, that the suspicion was announced so far only for rolling, as we can see from the video, in addition to those two people in in military uniform, who directly beat people on the bed, there are several other people in military uniform standing nearby, we understand that the employees of the military, tsk, because the others are unlikely to be just passers-by, got this frame, this video, and they are watching the process beating, irina, i thank you, yes, i, i

thank you very much for researching this topic at the regional level, and came out to us on the air, shared it, iryna bilyakova, journalist. 20 minutes in ternopil, which explores the topics of beating or violation of the rights of citizens within the walls of the military. thank you very, well, i also urge our viewers, if you know of such incidents in your cities, let us know about it, write in the comments. and, well, i will also remind you once again that the dbbr reported on 260 proceedings, but actually, what to do with all this , where to go if your rights are violated in the military, now we will try to talk to our people about all this. masi nayem, a ukrainian military man, lawyer , veteran, has already joined the broadcast, it will probably also be correct to say, good evening, can you hear me, yes, i can hear you, good evening, you must have seen these videos that... circulated on the network for the last week and month about the beating of people in the military, the sbi also reports on violations in the form of bribery in the military and vlk, from your observations, to what extent

is this problem systemic, or are these isolated cases? well, harm is a systemic problem, and it needs to be solved, well, it seems to me that it is much more difficult than they are currently solving , as for the beating, there is a very ambiguous situation here, the problem is that you cannot cover up the violation of people's rights with war, i understand that there is an abundance of people, and this is true, and there is really not enough personnel, but if they properly deal with bribers, then they will probably have a sufficient number of people who can be called up in a normal way, and not do with ukraine the russian federation, but this one, i will ask you for a practical

to give advice, and where to turn if you were beaten in the army, well, i called on the city of mernopol, i appealed to all the residents of the city and urged them to clearly signal this to the law enforcement officers, because these blatant cases happened in ternopil, and in general there is such a clear system for people, whose rights are in such a one the method has been violated, look, it will not do without a statement about the crime. therefore, it will be necessary to file a criminal complaint, this is the main thing. now, when you file a crime report, they are required by law to open a criminal case within 24 hours, that is, open a criminal case. if this does not happen, the lawyers turn to the court, with a request to oblige the dbbr to institute, that is, open criminal proceedings. and there are no other mechanisms, because this is a criminal offense, it is not an administrative offense. ago. to go any other way is simply not possible succeed in bringing the relevant individuals to justice.

there is another question, it is also more practical, do i understand correctly that , in principle, military personnel can hand a summons to a military officer anywhere, on the street, at a stadium, in a restaurant, in a cafe, and a citizen cannot refuse to take it, a citizen? yes, summonses can be served anywhere. there is no violation of the law, but the question is what happens after that, if, as i see on the video, they are being taken somewhere with straw, well, i consider this a violation, especially in such a the format in which they do it also applies, well, that is, it seems that there is no link to the fact that it should be in kyiv, if you are registered in kyiv, they should issue a summons, no, uh, yes, so what then what to do if, actually, i don’t know, but how should the situation develop ideally, if a person does not want to receive a subpoena, he also violates the law in such a case, it turns out, ah, interesting,

because look, uh, how do they serve the summons, they have to find out the surname, patronymic of this person, uh, if it's eh, no he says, if he doesn't show the document, then they won't issue a summons for him either, ugh, now, if she has already shown the document and the summons, well, he doesn't want to take it, they can record it, as witnesses, and so on, from here i won't tell you, because i actually, so deep, it's well, i never dug, but i think if it is , he's avoiding getting a subpoena, but he knows there's a subpoena, i think if they get on the record with witnesses, it could be further, maybe , you can act. within the framework of the criminal code, since it is actually in this way avoids the draft. i have a question that may not be entirely

for a lawyer, or not only for a lawyer, but also for a military one, it is more fundamental, but we also showed an example when a man was brutally detained in the sambra army, and it happened so that he simply illegally, illegally wanted to cross the border, he was probably caught and kept there for a week, starved and so on. this is a person who basically wants to escape from the army, he does not want to go to the front, he does not want to serve, he from this escapes, i can assume that such a person probably has no motivation either, you are already like a military issue, but should such people be mobilized, and if they are mobilized , look at those people who want to join the army, they have already done it , there is a shortage of personnel, people are dying there, there are fewer of us, so eh, these people must be called up, now eh, believe me that when he finds himself in the army, and, after training, and ends up at the front,

he will have a very the desire to live will quickly turn on, and it will be effective, can be effective, for several months, if i am not mistaken, the ukrainian authorities, at least, they articulate in this way that they know about this problem with warlords, with violations of rights, bribery, and volodymyr zelenskyi even publicly seems to have given, so to speak, an instruction or a request, to reform the warlords, i understand that a small period of time has passed, but do you see any signs of the desire of those people who were tasked with reforming the warlords, that they have started to do something? let's just say, i don't see, because i'm not in this system, i don't understand what they did, but it seems to me that the inevitability of punishment is the only thing that can correct this situation, that is, we need exemplary trials in which specific people will be sentenced, we need many of them, as many as there are such cases, only this

will change. because if you put even another person, even a valuable person, they can also break the law, the only thing that can prevent breaking the law is the inevitability of the punishment, the only thing that can help is not to increase the punishment, because if you have a chance to escape , eh, it doesn't matter, even if it's 100 years old, there will be a threat to imprison him, but if in he has money, he will pay off and leave, it won't work, only impunity will work, that's the only thing that will work, and that's why i understand... that when certain politicians can't take such responsibility as ensuring impunity in the country in principle, then they resort to alternative measures that may reduce or relieve the tension a little, but what motive will the new head of the tsk have to not violate the law, if he does not

receive any punishment for violating it. in the sbi reported on 260 cases of violations, and bribery and beating, is it all together, is it a little or a lot from your point of view? it's very little, it's very little, i think that if it's 1 or 2%, maybe it's maybe 10%, i don't know, but it's very little, situations in which, vlk, tsk, there mseks take bribes, they very, very systemic, very many, 256 - this, of own inefficiency. i am very grateful to you for joining our broadcast, masinaem, a ukrainian military man and lawyer, was on radio liberty. and already this sunday, parliamentary elections will be held in poland. experts say that it is clear there is no winner at the moment, people who follow the pre-election process in poland, but

hesitate between the party of power, law and justice. kaczynski and the opposition force, the civil coalition of former polish prime minister donald tusk. the ultra-right, well, as it is called in the polish media, the pro-russian confederation party, which , according to opinion polls, also enters the parliament, is also participating in the race. natalka, a correspondent of radio liberty in poland, will tell more about the candidates and the course of the parliamentary campaign volosatska, and we will discuss later. good afternoon, madam, i am a candidate for the election, can i leave my garden? andrzej sheptytsky is participating in the elections for the first time, the great-nephew of the metropolitan of the ukrainian greek catholic church andriy sheptytsy, a political scientist and teacher at the university of warsaw, is a member of the poland 2050 party, which is part of the third way coalition. he says that he studied political processes for many years, and now he decided to apply his theoretical knowledge in practice. our democratic standards have deteriorated, well, our political standards

a situation such as in hungary or as it once was in ukraine under kuchma, and well, there is also simply such a sense of such a simply patriotic duty, not only to look, and only to write in scientific journals that everything is good, but simply to act, against in this situation, a pole who knows the ukrainian language and attends the ukrainian greek-catholic church has what polish society has to offer, support for , for example, poland's entry into the eurozone, i think this should have been done many years ago, but look at slovakia , on slovenia, andrzej szyptycki rides a bicycle with his own campaign poster and distributes leaflets in markets near universities and subways, says that people often ask about his historical surname. when i was there, a child, a student.