roman kostenko, colonel of the security service of ukraine, people's deputy of ukraine. mr. colonel, i congratulate you, i am glad to see you on our air. good evening to each other, mr. sergey. mr. roman, let's start the situation in the eastern direction, because the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine reports that the russian invaders are trying to break through the defenses of the ukrainian military in the avdiyivka area. the military says that during the day in the direction of avdiivka, 20 enemy tanks were repulsed in the district settlements of avdiivka, lastochkine, tonenke, pervomaiske, nyvetske, donetsk region, what is happening there now, i understand that the russians decided to take avdiivka, avdiivka is the gate to donetsk, well, yes, the situation there is threatening, because i think the enemy, well, we saw in general strategy that the enemy tried to search

weak points and actions in... the east, first the kupyansk-limansk direction , now avdiivsk, he is trying to somehow pull away our reserves, and also to find some kind of victory for himself, to achieve some kind of success, of course, when everyone looks at the map, you don't have to be big strategist, when we see that avdiivka it is such a semi-circle, semi-surrounded, if you can say so, and of course if the enemy succeeds there in some directions , then in order not to be encircled, we will need to withdraw our troops, and the enemy immediately has a large amount of territory, so they decided to attack there, and at the same time they are attacking in maryanka, the same way, well, they are not pressing, and they are also trying to make attacks on kupyansk-lymansky, they did not, did not stop them, that is why we see how our defense forces are destroying there enemy during his attacks, quite successfully, and but the enemy is still trying... still pressing, in order to

succeed. under the avdivka, the russian federation transferred three new brigades, four battalions are no longer combat-ready, kombrikh vadim sukharevskyi stated this, in the washington post, in an interview, he said that the russians are transferring new forces there and are trying to surround the city from the south and north. co-coordinator of strategic communication of the council. of the dangers of the united states of america john kirby says that the ukrainians continue to lead a very tough counterattack and hear what kirby had to say. the ukrainians continue to fight very hard on the counter-offensive as winter is fast approaching and time is not our ally here, but we will no doubt continue to help ukraine with weapons and military equipment that it...needs. and

now we are conducting consultations in congress about additional aid for ukraine and israel. i believe that the congress sent a loud signal both to putin that we will continue to help ukraine and to the israeli people that we together with them. mr. colonel, what is the army lacking right now on the eve of winter, and in what way can the armed forces of the armed forces of ukraine consolidate their positions, because it is clear that the rains will continue, snow will fall and the ground will freeze, what will happen to the eastern and southern fronts? well, of course, the activity of hostilities will, well, in fact decrease, but this does not mean that we will not be able to advance or the enemy will not be able to carry out any offensive actions, of course we have passed the winter and in general the beginning of the war has shown that even in winter conditions it is possible to conduct combat operations, yes, they are limited by various factors in the use

of unmanned aerial vehicles, the cold, all roads are impassable and can be driven only in specific directions, it is not possible to turn around normally, deploy forces and means, because the fields are, after all, swampy and very difficult passability, but in some directions it is still possible to conduct combat operations, and if they are chosen correctly, therefore, but the activity at the same time really decreases, what do we need for this, well, first of all, we must have a normal and continue to have a stock of artillery. that's what is required directly if we are talking about the battlefield where our defense forces are defending our state. artillery, we now know, is such a major deterrent on the battlefield, and fpv, fpv, let's say drones, fpv reconnaissance, strike drones and drones of all kinds, because they are now the main means of impressing technology, if anyone doesn't denied or did not want to see, drones, they exceed.

in general, all means to impress the technique, this is a fact, if we are talking about more strategic things, we understand that russia will try to strike at us, will not be so great... the east in terms of ammunition, as it is now in the summer-spring period and even in the autumn, russia will store these ammunition somewhere, in which places of storage, and this is our task, from my from the point of view of having the ability to strike at these logistic ee hubs, let’s call them, or logistic warehouses, for this we need, of course, missiles at least 300 km, which are there, and of course, of course air defense, this is what we need needed in order to protect their warehouses, protect their civilians infrastructure and critical infrastructure, i think as of winter we need air defense to protect our infrastructure, that's the main

artillery to deter the enemy, on the battlefield and missiles, well, they call them long-range, they're not long-range, but such that, although... they hit 300, 200-300 km, so that the enemy could not prepare for next year, could not bring up his reserves and warehouses with weapons, well, you mean german missiles, in that including taurus, who are so long-distance, because everyone calls them long-distance, well, in the classification, they are generally military, they are not long-range missiles, they are not even short-range, judges, they are tactical missiles, because we know that, i have already said more than once, we are used to saying long-range... missiles, the latest f16 planes, tanks the coalition, that is, well, we somehow exaggerate what we have, and somehow we want it to look more modern , first of all we have to look at things realistically, well, it is absolutely obvious that the long-range missiles there are

1000 km, i will tell you 100, it is considered a short-range missile, it is a short-range, small, yes, then there is medium to 500 and five already goes, well, long range. well, despite the absence of these missiles, the german taurus, nevertheless, the special operations forces continue to work in the rear, in melitopol, this morning on october 13 they blew up the railway tracks and thereby made it difficult for the russian invaders to supply ammunition and fuel to their troops in this direction of the front, damaged a railway line and a train that delivered bo... supplies and fuel for the armed forces of the russian federation, well, this train, by the way he was carrying weapons here, and there he was carrying all the looted grain and everything, everything, everything else that was in the warehouses that they seized, how do you assess the prospect of cutting

this land corridor, which russia was aiming for in the 14th year , i remember all these analytical calculations that russia will be in any case. and will cut a land corridor to crimea, because they needed water to the peninsula, because they needed to create a land corridor, and not just build a bridge there from the taman peninsula to kircha, and it is clear that this the land corridor is strategically important for russia, and it is strategically important for us , in order to cut off supplies to the russians, all supplies, i think they already have a second branch there... they are building railways and another highway to tokmak is being built, which what can happen to it and in what period? well, here we can say that when we are talking about the same rockets, if we are talking about

the newest missiles that hit at 300 km and have a deviation radius of up to 3 m, this is exactly what allowed us and can can help us how to change the situation on the battlefield, in fact now we see that yes , there is an extensive system of railways in the zaporizhzhia region, but you can get there only through the kerch bridge from crimea, in fact, because, because one line goes to the regional coal miners, it is not works, and in fact they go over the crimean bridge through the crimea, pass the isthmus and then deliver to... tokmak, melitopol, kakhovka, then they begin to re-deliver ammunition and replenishment, they use the railway very widely, russia, in general, probably one of the few countries in the world which, precisely for the military, its

potential, uses the railway, because it is a large country, in order to deliver, their roads are not very good, so they use iron. this, in principle, gives them the opportunity to quickly accumulate, sorry, their logistical capabilities. that's right, if we 're talking about attack missiles. and the crimean bridge , if destroyed, it will be a big problem for the entire southern grouping of the russian federation, then it will be necessary to use highways, and it is not so easy, it is a big expense and in general big losses for the russian federation , so of course for us, returning to your question, it is very important to cut off this particular land corridor to the sea of ​​azov, and on the way to it, so that. to cut it, it would be very important to destroy the crimean bridge, it would give us completely different opportunities

in order to move forward, and the destruction of railway tracks is, of course, very important, and well done guys, but in modern conditions, we, we passed in the kherson direction , there is the brelivka station, when it was still before the deoccupation, in there are already repair crews there, which are literally there in a day, or maybe even less, if it is simply destroyed by subversive means. the track, they are repairing it, so these things need to be done systematically, and of course in such conditions it is very difficult for the reconnaissance group, and then , if after the first task is somehow confidentially with ordinary forces and means, then of course it is necessary to be strategic if we destroy this bridge , we will take a big advantage, especially since general budanov constantly says that it is unnecessary element in the kerch strait, and it shouldn't be there, so let's still... hope that this bridge will blow up.

when we talk about the prospect of war, and president zelensky quite often says that this war will be long enough, and that we need to prepare for a marathon after all, for such a long marathon, we are talking about mobilization, about mobilized russians and in general, how many of them are there, on that immeasurable part of the earth. and we understand that there are three or four times more of them than there are of us. at the same time, representative gur of the ministry of defense of ukraine, vadym skibits says that in russia everything is ready for mass open mobilization, but they cannot announce it. let's hear what skibitsky said. all the lists of possible mobilized people are surrounded, all this has been transferred to electronic accounting, in addition, it has been strengthened, significantly strengthened.

requirements of the legislation of the criminal code of the russian federation for evasion of military service, for desertion and other issues, well, the punishment for these issues, this proves once again that at any moment russia can resume such a powerful mobilization process on the territory of russia, why hasn't she done it officially yet, is there a need, well, apparently, first of all, there is no such need, secondly, the presidential elections... in russia, which will be held in the spring of next year, also have an impact, because the mobilization - it is a complex process, it is , accordingly, an influence on the socio-political situation in the territory of russia, but it is also a very powerful blow to the russian economy. the ministry of defense of ukraine has also already announced changes regarding the conscription and work of military medical commissions, what about the general mobilization about what, what can expect us in the near future, because it is clear that people

who have been at the front for a year and a half, or already two years, no, well, in principle, they cannot be at the front for a long time, someone must change them, what, what now they say in the verkhovna rada and what the representatives of the ministry of defense of ukraine say , how, how events will unfold, whether we have enough troops now, or not enough, whether there will be additional waves, whether everything will be a mess. mobilization, what do you say? well, so that the conversations were about the general mobilization, about what will happen tomorrow the floodgates will open and everyone will be caught on the streets and sent to the army, of course there are no such conversations, but the fact that a mobilization resource is needed , there are constant conversations about this, we are receiving signals about this there, that at the front and for the formation of new units, in particular, for replenishment

units that have, take part in hostilities, people are needed, it is necessary to demobilize people, that is why it is a very difficult issue, and we see that the first year volunteers went there, who went themselves, and now every month it is more and more difficult to recruit the certain number of people that is needed to equip, well, first of all, there are new units and replenish losses, so... that's really why we understand that protecting the country is everyone's duty, but everyone in different ways it comes to that, and i have already said more than once myself that this war does not escape anyone. and we have to understand this, we have to understand that we have a choice, either to bow down and become a satellite of the russian federation and return to its sphere of influence, as they are little russians there or er, inferior, or to win our independence, let's say, to

prove to her that we are a nation that has the right to sovereignty, independence, and existence. but unfortunately you have to prove it on the battlefield, as for those guys who are on the battlefield, yes i agree, those who from the first days, i agree that they, it's hard for them, and they ask questions, often about , and until when we, yes, until death, until injury , there until 2030 or sometime, that is, they want to hear a specific figure, until when they, and there is an argument from: when, and why, what is everyone else doing, those, who did not join the army, but now, unfortunately, as far as i know, they cannot be replaced by anyone, but from my point of view, it is necessary to draft, to form units there, to draft, which could at least on a rotational basis of these guys, give they have the opportunity to rest there for a month, two, three, well, as much as the opportunity will give, if it is

such, and these units have to go and change them, of course, you can say that these are units trained there. everything, but in war it is difficult to sit even for one day, to sit under fire, i am not talking about two years, as some brigades in the donetsk direction, or in other directions, are almost constantly in the combat zone, and practically do not leave the front edge, they rotate there at the expense of internal reserves, the teams there at the expense of the fourth battalions that were introduced to the state so that there three are fighting, one is resting, but these are still the same... let's say the measures we use in wartime, so of course we need to think and do and understand, if we enter a marathon, we need to understand how we will let people rest. during the last five days,

the deployment of hostilities in the middle east, the russians quite often used this rhetoric that, they say, the weapons that were on the russian-ukrainian front were going to the middle east, including to the hamas militants, although today putin said that he doubts about the fact that there were possible deliveries from ukraine to hamas, let's listen to what putin said, i doubt that there were weapons deliveries from ukraine, i doubt it, but i do not doubt that there is a leakage of weapons from ukraine, well, the level of corruption in ukraine is known. sir colonel, putin, well, he usually lies like he breathes, as they say, but in this case , when he talks about the weapons that were on the battlefield in ukraine, which were given by representatives of western countries, that they can hit, well either to russia or to the middle east, how likely is

this, and where is the question of trophy weapons that can get to them, and weapons that someone somewhere can sell or give away for money? well , look, the question here is that, well , theoretically, weapons that go to ukraine, if someone is there somewhere, if they have not yet entered ukraine, then someone can send it somewhere there, theoretically, we all know, we do not idolize anyone, that we understand that our partners supply it to us, well, it is true, if we speak theoretically, but it is very unlikely from my point of view , because we have a level of control that controls almost all weapons there in terms of the order of their entry across the border and the order of their already being in ukraine, so the weapons that are there, i am sure, we also talked about this with some representatives of the special services, yes , indeed there some weapons fall into the hands of the enemy,

because, well, on the battlefield, in particular with our captured or dead boys, sometimes at the beginning of the war we saw that even the russians near kiev captured ghivelins , so they have these weapons, and an operation was carried out, we understand , who stands, whose ears stick out, as well as behind, the aggression of hamas, including, the russians hand it over to them in order to discredit ukraine and then blame the level of corruption, and everything in this plan, so of course we understand that putin just so does not say anything, and of course, this weapon could easily have gotten from the russians to terrorists well, we know that in the early 2000s, in 2002, ukraine was accused of being supplied weapons to iraq, and this was under sanctions, that is, they apparently violated international, international rules, and then it turned out that the chain mails, about which

they said that four units of our chain mail got there, then it turned out that this was not true, but this caused a dispute at the time the ukrainian leadership with the west, kuchma was a person with whom, yes, with whom they did not want to talk, well, not only because of this, because of the honadz case, because the murdered journalist, but... we are now witnessing how the world is unfolding, hostilities are unfolding, that is, the middle east, we see that north korea and south korea are on the verge, north korea is hinting that it can strike in south korea, we see that the situation is not easy in africa, we see a difficult situation in taiwan, general budanov predicts that these are the regional conflicts that we are currently seeing and that we are witnessing and participating in, that this is the architecture of the future global war, where the axis of evil will be, conditionally

saying, either the countries of autocracy will fight the countries of democracy or civilization , how do you see this situation and how will it affect the russian-ukrainian war, because the united states of america says that in one package they will now consider... issues regarding the provision of aid and weapons to both ukraine and israel, but if these points on the map are hot, three or four, for the united states of america, this will also be a challenge, of course, because they will not leave taiwan and south korea will not leave and in africa, if necessary, there will also be an aircraft carrier group near the shores of africa, will the potential of democratic states, a group of democratic states, be enough to defeat a group of autocratic states, well

, you see how it all started, when the world closed its eyes to the annexation of crimea, in fact closed the annexation of our eastern territories and tried to somehow politically appease the tyrant there, and as a result we see that now the whole world is starting to see hot spots appear on the maps, if we are talking specifically about the supply of weapons and whether this will have any effect on ukraine, it will depend on many factors, but if we now take the conflict and the war that israel has declared, and see the forces for and means that are now against it, well, hamas directly, then i am sure that we also see that israel has enough of their forces in order to regulate... it was necessary to quickly recapture their territory and now conduct a counter-insurgency ground operation, they are completely theirs, they have complete dominance in the air, they

have equipment, tanks, artillery, everything, and even on the territory israel has artillery depots of the united states that they are stationed there, and as far as i know the united states has already given them permission to use that artillery ammunition. therefore, it is not such a big conflict that we need to give as many weapons as ukraine is given as an example, but if other muslim states start to enter the conflict, i will not list them now, but who knows the history that israel has always fought with all its neighbors, if one of them dares now, well there, say, on behalf of iran or other countries to enter the war, then it is already of course there will be... completely different schedules, completely different needs from israel and completely different help will be needed , we will have to think about it, and if we are talking, we will be

talking about the same south-north korea, this is also an important issue for of the united states, because they are the guarantors, and in south korea, there is a contingent of the united states, troops, there are also radar installations that are there specifically, in order to detect strategic missiles that can fly, so there are already there are troops, and it is quite difficult to imagine that byeongyang, understanding that the bases of the united states there will be able to hit the same south korea, then i think it will be a matter of declaring war on the united states, but anything can happen , we see that the leaders are conspiring now, the same...' kinchanin came to russia and talked, and we don't know what they agreed on, but what he went there, he was shown a modern russian weapon,

if you can call it that, a fighter. fleet, missiles may indicate that russia will transfer either ready-made samples or some technologies in order for them to be able to either make them or use them, mr. colonel, the world that existed until february 24, 22, it did not cease to exist, that is, the security system does not work, which worked, all international agreements, all international law . just also in principle in question, because the countries of the so-called axis of evil, they simply ignore international law, eh , in your opinion, what is the result of the current wars, i say in the plural, because obviously, in parallel, there are two wars in the world now , to which attention is drawn, that as a result of these wars, what kind of security system should emerge, or shall we say, perhaps this

security system will be all concentrated around nato, because we also see the inaction of the united nations organization not only in the case of ukraine, but also with israel, now it is difficult to say, unequivocally, the security system will be changed, unequivocally we need to review the organizations that guarantee this security, we see that the un is an ineffective organization, just like the league of nations was before that, so we see that the system works while one of some countries not specifically not starts breaking the rules and then it's just this system, well, it's just there , it doesn't bring any benefit, everyone uses it just as a platform to defend their actions, what we see is done by the russian federation, despite what everyone understands, who is the aggressor and what is she doing, but at the same time she has the right to veto,

she has the right to speak, she has... she also has the right to blame other countries and manipulate and influence other countries in various ways, so of course all this will change , and of course the structure of such organizations it is necessary to exchange with their veto rights, with their er, various rights of primacy directly in these countries, what the system will be, it is difficult to say now, but what will be in the nearest, well, as i said 50, but i think at least 30-40 years, even if these wars end quickly, then we will have something like a cold war, when all countries will no longer just give up there, we remember the same germany, where trump wanted to leave nato, because germany promised there 2 % to spend on defense, i spent half a percent there, too i think that the opposite will happen now, that countries will increase and the world will arm itself,

it will definitely appear. new weapons, new factories will appear , first of all, countries and nato will arm themselves, and i think that some new alliances will appear , in particular small countries that understand the threat that will hang over them in the event of the arrival of some not the wrong political force to power in such countries as the russian federation, belarus and others. thank you, colonel, it was roman kostenko, colonel of the security service of ukraine, people's deputy of ukraine. friends we work live on the channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube. we are finalizing the survey, we are asking you today how long do you think it will be until the war in ukraine ends. so, 49% of our viewers who watched us on youtube for a few years, 32% for a year, 15% for a few months and 4%

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the supply has stopped. food and water.