a powerful saw strong, what you need, call, i welcome you, dear tv viewers, on the air of the tv channel, the program studio west, we will analyze the most important events of this week, our guests today, roman bezsmertnyi and andriy piontkovskyi. our first guest is the iconic ukrainian politician and diplomat, roman bezsmertny. glory to ukraine, mr. roman. glory, so what, israel and the arab terrorist attack on the state of israel, what do you think and who is behind it, and what scenario could unfold, we now understand that the american aircraft carrier group approached the shores of the near east , we understand that president biden gave a very clear signal, your version of how events will develop, objectively, if you assess the situation, there is one beneficiary in it, this is the moscow führer.

either he has one way, or he is pushing for a world war, and he is then a full-fledged participant, a player and in the end sat down with him at the negotiating table, or milosevic's fate awaits him and it is quite fast, to date the facts have already been proven that the coaches private armies, including those from wagner, were trained by hamas. and drones, missiles were partly supplied by iran, political leadership, development of the operation was carried out with the participation of the general staff of russia and the general staff of iran, technical support, equipment, ah, electronics, was provided by china, and arguments related to these three components, that is, materially

- technically... the equipment, and the preparation and planning of the operation, the further the situation will develop, the more these facts will come to the surface, moreover, iran, as it alone represents the arab world in this axis of evil, it is on its own not coordination so that a blow was struck from six positions simultaneously, that is, hamas from the south, bola from the north, and then islamic jihad from the territory of syria, then the beginning of the uprising in east jerusalem, the next is on the west bank of the jordan river, this is yate, and also, the uprising, aa in tel aviv, all these directions, as we see, they are implemented.

were, but with partial achievements of the set goal. in this wild course of events, things that need special attention were missed. in particular, somewhere about on the afternoon of the 7th, when khanya spoke as the leader of hamas, he clearly stated that our goal is the liberation of jerusalem, that is, in fact. speech about the destruction of the state of israel, as you understand, even when declaring an intifada, hamas did not resort to such political statements, that is, it is obvious that - let's say, such statements were allowed to be made by the amount of colossal material, financial, advisory, tactical assistance, and training. .. provided by those i

named, i'm not talking about the fact that, well, let's at least pay attention, the attack began with air, and it consisted of two things, these are missile attacks and hang gliders, motorized hang gliders, and drones, the attack began from the sea, small structures that tried to reach the shore, they were simply destroyed, by israeli ships that were on a raid, i already ... i'm not saying that in this situation israel least expected an attack on the gas sector, i'll explain why? every day , up to 25, on some days up to 300 workers went to the territory of israel in the gas sector, and it is precisely this age that is the most productive, it is 25-40 years old, and it is not it is a coincidence that we see militants in white toyotas, in civilian clothes.

these are disguises, well, it’s actually them and their fakes, that is, we see a construction that actually copies crimea, aggression in donbas, and so on, so there’s no place here... everywhere ears are pricked, either moscow’s, or iran’s, or china’s technical support . mr. roman, that is, there was coordination between several states of the so-called axis of evil, yes, you listed them and what was the goal, that is , as far as i understand, not only the overthrow of the state of israel as such, not only the creation massacres there and the corresponding political and military crisis, perhaps they hoped to be able to raise the degree to the level of the third world war, although there is a feeling that perhaps we are really on the verge of it, i don't know if in the previous conversation when we talked with you, i quoted raec's speech from the podium of the general assembly, where he said that there are a number of countries that will offer

an alternative path to the democratic and liberal path, and actually this is the realization, the beginning of the realization of this goal, that now another mistake is being made in the fact that here we are now we will give everything to israel and israel will solve this problem in a few days, this is a mistake, what started is the same as the war and aggression against ukraine, this is a long-term thing, and now, iran is storming hezbollah, jihad, syria, including jordan, even to give. territory, because they are already demanding now to let the yemeni houthis in, to let the taliban in from afghanistan, sooner or later in a direct way these neighboring states or by plane, it will be delivered, either to the territory

controlled by hezbollah in lebanon, or to the territory of egypt, which they are attacking, or the territory of syria and so on, and so on...' what worries me most now is the shaky position of turkey and saudi arabia and qatar, who are we for palestine, and this, well, first of all, palestine and hamas and hezbollah are not the same thing, it must be clearly understood , they are far from the same thing, because the gas sector was not controlled by the palestinian government, it was controlled by the terrorist organization hamas, just as the south of lebanon is not controlled by the lebanese government . it is controlled by hezbollah, that should be clear understand, that is, we have enclaves, which today have become the places from which israel is attacked, hence, when the moscow führer says that there is only one solution to the issue,

which is to grant there, to implement the un resolution of 1948, he is lying, because this solution is not recognized hamas, it is not recognized by hezbollah, it is not recognized by palestine, what is he talking about, that is, he is fooling the whole world, he thinks that no one understands this. in fact, both the moscow führer and all these iranian fundamentalists and china are pushing today, inciting this war, this a terrorist act, so that it, like the situation in the world, reached the level of first continental conflicts, and then global war. i don't doubt it anymore, because it is clear that these coordination actions are behind the terrorists, because before the terrorists had time to reach these 13 cities, statements appeared from tehran, qatar, saudi arabia, syria, that is, it is clear that the situation was being prepared,

it was being worked out , on the second day there were organized rallies in more than 48 states, when i am told about such things, i perfectly understand that what was done, what was realized in this terrorist savage attack, well, it is at least a quarter, or less than a quarter, of what was planned. roman petrovich, if we are talking about the reaction of the united states, it is clear, specific and , as far as i understand, uncompromising. at the same time, the united states, in particular president joseph biden, is now trying to combine three aid packages into one, in particular, it is about aid for the state of israel. of ukraine and attention to taiwan. in the current situation , there is no doubt that it will be a joint package. the second is that he will be voted. what's more, i can tell you that it will even hit the trumpists very hard, because they are in

an idiotic situation right now. they cannot block aid to israel and taiwan, because it is in their interest, including the economic one. but now it turned out that in ukraine, taiwan. and israel has one enemy, you understand what the situation is, and this friendship of the trumpists with the führer of moscow, it would become an obstacle, a very serious one, therefore... obviously, this first guarantees that the package will be voted, this is from my point of view obviously. the second is that it is very will seriously affect the course of domestic politics in the united states, including the appointment of persons, including the election of the speaker of the house of representatives, which is due to take place, candidates have already been nominated there.

republicans and so on, that is, in fact, well, this is the case when they would say, it wouldn't have happened, happiness and misfortune helped , you know, this war, because it, it's not, it's not just a terrorist attack, it's a war, and for that you need to and relate, because according to what is happening, the same as it was planned, this not just what happened before, they ran in, shot, ran away, well, part of it. caught, there's clearly a plan being followed, a large-scale operation developed and so on, so from my point of view, this misfortune and this tragedy and this barbaric attack, it will really, very seriously help many who in the congress of the united states who have been sick and more come to their senses certain dreams there that somehow it will be possible to settle, to settle this... situation here, and actions, including those of the israeli government, they

clearly testify that all these statements that trump's entourage sounded, they are absolutely ridiculous, because what happened in israel is directly related to russia, iran, and china. how far will the united states now be forced to go, i stress the word forced, yes, because we understand. well, what was the premonition that maybe the israeli front would slightly overshadow the front of the russian-ukrainian war. president biden tied three knotty problems into one package: russian aggression, israel and taiwan. first, it will not overshadow, secondly, you forgive me, because i am formulating these things on the fly, i not yet honed. what we are seeing now is for these human monsters who write about what, we don't know, what happened in ukraine for 10 years, but here in two days, such a nightmare, well,

because you don't know, because you rage, you guys should have been wiped, and in the end you will see what is happening in ukraine, and what is happening now in israel, this is the tenth year that it has been happening in ukraine, in different numbers, in different arrays and so on, and the scale of the nightmare that is here ... in ukraine, they exaggerate a hundred times what is happening in israel, but i am not now i measure myself by the images of tragedies, i say once again, i am just now on the move with you, trying to find, well, a normal wording of these things that lie on the surface, you just have to see them, pay attention to them, i will just quote analysts, presenters, who say yes, what you saw now in israel has been happening every day in ukraine for many years. here's a true phrase that actually

fits what's going on. now, what should we focus on, not on measuring whether russia, iran, with china, ukrainians or jews brought more grief, now we have to focus on how to join forces, further, use these efforts competently on the battlefield in ukraine and israel and prevent the emergence of new flames of war, because what i am telling you about, if iran succeeds now with russia, china, involve in large-scale actions in the north, that is, where hezbollah will be involved in this lebanon and israel will have nowhere to go but to bombard the territory of lebanon, further, if there is ... the units that are located in the territory

of syria of all these jihadist organizations are involved, this indicates that israel will have to to shoot back, i don't say there anymore the issues that are related to the jordanians and so on, because at the end of the day, well, i don't know if the audience knows this, but the palestinians are considered de facto subjects of the monarch of jordan, and if there is another thing that is not distinguished now, and hamas is taken for palestine, and palestine for hamas will become a whole and battles will arise in israel along the perimeter, well, you understand very well that this will in fact turn into the third world war, and here you must understand that the war in ukraine , in israel - these are two wars that testify to the fact that that the world order of the seas, it has already sunk into the past, and these two wars, and in order for them to establish a new world order, unfortunately,

another world order happened, so that the next world order must go through a local war. continental and global and only then will it become clear, this must be understood including in washington and not only in washington, because after closing the topic of the defeat of the aggressors in ukraine and in israel, we can talk about convening an international conference on the idea of ​​a new world order. what worries me most now is whether he is conscious now people are in brussels, in washington to... understand what you and i are talking about now, because if we do not concentrate our efforts now and strike at this evil, which is acting in ukraine on the part of the russian aggressor and there in israel on the part of iran, because what is happening in israel can clearly be called the israel-iran war , it's all an attachment to palestine, that's all, it

's all diabolical things, that's just iran, the israeli war, where russia and china are fighting on the side of iran, well, you see, there would be no iranian drones if it weren't for the chinese ones programs, chinese semiconductors, chinese components, i'm not talking about metals, and so on , no one is talking about it now, it's obvious from here that the topic of the decision on the allocation of aid, and if they understand it, i hope that it understand because, well, i managed to read the latest materials, analytical notes, which come from even former advisers, the bushes, carter , clinton, who actually dealt with the issue of the middle east, where they insist that america should consider the war in

ukraine, the war in israel, and taiwan, as a united front and to understand what is on the other side ... russia, iran, and china. if this happens, then we can hope for systematic, long-term help, because well , you pay attention, we hear the same sounds, in ukraine, we will help as much as we need, we will help as much as we need in israel, as much as we need . the formula of the general filling may be different, yes, we are now , i think you also analyzed the aid package that was discussed in the next ramstein and we did not see there an extremely important reinforcement of armored groups, in particular, the increase in the number of abrams, there were no atakams and the question of aviation, let it be the same f16, it is still on the agenda, that is, the matter is not developing quickly, the question of dynamics is a key question, in particular, when it comes to aid,

because it will to influence the winter campaign, of course, it is this factor of action. and you are right about what? because now the dynamic is very important, at the same time, it is you and i, i think so, but in brussels, we are convinced that on the contrary there should be a slow dynamic in order to leave a chance for dialogue, that's why, and the situation is paradoxical, but these days, when preparations were unfolding, an attack on israel was taking place, in the western press... a number of notes appeared in the press about the fact that it is absolutely necessary to conduct a dialogue with russia, because this is the only tool to appease china with his appetites for taiwan, you know how? that is, in fact, this vector also continues to work, here it must be understood that both israel and ukraine now need an end to the dynamics of the escalation of these processes, and there is a part of those

who believe that ours is trying, when there is another way... sit at the table about something negotiate, but you understand, this position of israel, it helps us a lot, there is nothing to talk about with the savages, and this position, although it may be harsh, yes, may not be diplomatic, but it is very objective, because it makes fun of the bodies of dead soldiers and the civilian population, this is barbarism, i did not accidentally say that what we are seeing now in israel was yesterday... which year is going on in ukraine, and this must be understood, if we approach it from the point of view of our characteristics with you, then we end up needing as much as possible. more active dynamics, as soon as possible decision-making. roman petrovich, i would like to ask you to comment on two important, possibly pivotal moments, albeit on a tactical level, in particular

, it is about the visit of the russian fuhrer to the people's republic of china, and it is also about the announced meeting at the level of national security advisers in istanbul. as if they would like to reanimate this or that istanbul scenario, the chimbul negotiation process. well. regarding the trip to china, well, let's do it, it is not known how it will take place, and if it takes place, it means that it is another a step towards an attack by china in relation to taiwan, i only see it that way, and if god forbid there is some success in israel, then taiwan will be next, don't even doubt it, and istanbul, well, that's what i'm talking about. ..' just said, this is the second option, which , sitting, he, well, pay attention to this statement, who is there the other day, the president of romania, i think

, said, yes, about the restoration, yes, yes, yes, about restoration, the istanbul version, and i understood this, well, strange statement by erdogan, when the attack on israel began, he did you not orientate yourself in the situation? didn't he understand that hamas is not palestinian and began to talk about the fact that just as putin must implement the decision of the general assembly of 1948, so hamas of hezbollah is against him, in the palestine liberation organization against him, against this decision, about what are you saying, in general, why is israel in this situation, and what do they not understand that, well , probably, let's say so, or well, i think that they understand, just that the fool is included. in order to pretend that they are still taking some kind of peacekeeping position, it will not be possible, y

the situation in which we are, we are, the topic of the istanbul option is dropped, i can say that it is not viable in principle, there is a possibility that, there is a possibility of a meeting of advisers, if it is appropriate, just to talk about the global peace summit, and to talk about the new world order, his, shall we say, preparing it based on the fact that vramstein, well, i take all these forces, has a strategic vision for today , the paradox of the situation is that literally, at noon, as soon as hamas started attack on israel, a clear goal was declared by the leadership of hamas, the leadership of hezbollah, the leadership of iran, and so on. and i ask, is the goal of ramstein, it is formed, it, the goal, is formed in washington, the goal

is formed in brussels, no, from here all we see is, we will help, as much as necessary, what is hiding behind according to these words, only those who speak them know, i think that they do not know this either, therefore , in fact, the shaking... in the camp of the allies of ukraine, this is slow, and it is now will hurt us very, very much. now, what i am in complete solidarity with you is that quick solutions are needed, because even prolonging the situation in israel is another step towards china's war against taiwan. thank you very much, mr. roman, for this brilliant and honest analysis, i want to remind our tv viewers... that roman bezsmertny, a ukrainian politician and diplomat, was currently working on the air of the tv channel. thank you. stiffness in the joints and spine,

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the state of israel and the fact that the world is de facto on the verge of the third world war, although we will understand that it is more likely began with the attack of the russian federation on ukraine. glory to ukraine, andrii andriyovych, i congratulate you, glory to the heroes, good day, anton. well, we understand, yes, the attacks of arab terrorists on the state of israel are not something fundamentally new, but right now, with this kind of aggression, having literally rioted, like that in individual towns of the state of israel. well, you know, i would first of all agree with your parallel, but it was strengthened, of course, not only by the russian government, by russian reactions, reactions to monstrous atrocities, zolodeya in israel, not a single word of sympathy for the victims, not a single word of sympathy was uttered by the official moscow, you see, even the arab states,

those who, well... this line, let's, both parties, negotiate and so on, all of them , they all found strength in themselves, unequivocally judges the barbarism of these animals, israeli ones, but the people who made such victims of atrocities in the foam, and of course, their nature simply did not allow them to express this sympathy, well, the authorities, but we russian social media also read everything in ukraine networks? it was skabeeva who mocked the women who were the victims of this bullying live. the shocking level of degradation of russian society, such anti-semitism, i don’t remember in the soviet union, i’ll tell you more, it wasn’t there even 2 years ago, this is the oscotinization of russian society and russian power, this is the result,