[000:00:00;00] water supply and accordingly, trust me, i emphasize once again the official sources of information, thank you very much, dmytro snigriv, military expert, co-chairman of the right cause, was in touch with us, now to america, well, since america is such a world superpower, then there will be a place not only for american politics, but also for american politics in the world. oleksandr kraev, expert of the foreign policy council. prism, we will look at everything through the ukrainian prism, good health, mr. oleksandr, thank you for finding time for us, you know what my first question is for you, i have it as the last one, i moved it to the first one, mr. blinkin, the secretary of state of the united states, is traveling in the near east now, he started these travels, and my question is, what will he return to washington with, what will he succeed and what, what

will he fail? now it seems that nothing will succeed, and all diplomatic efforts to somehow do something in the middle east, at least to agree on peace between saudi arabia and israel, are futile. yes, unfortunately, saudi arabia clearly took a not entirely pro-israel position, respectively, no completely pro-american position. after all , it turns out that china is using them for its negotiations with iran and generally closer ones. contacts with china were not in vain, now they really act more like a neutral player, or even a pro-chinese player, on the other hand, we see certain achievements in other countries of the region, we see that jordan is ready to provide its airfields and its infrastructure for american planes, we see that the epic with egypt is not yet over, which, although it also tries not to take part in anything, to get out of american pressure, but the americans still have their own means of putting pressure on him, that is, saudi arabia

, unfortunately, so far it is a diplomatic defeat, but we also have egypt, where the scales can be tipped, everyone is very afraid, people, even on the street they ask me about the third world war, some believe that it is already the fourth, well, in short, about the world war, and you believe, i, i tell them that i do not believe, i am not such a great expert, but i do not believe , i don't believe in simultaneity, in order for this to happen, you have to involve iran, saudi arabia, the united states, well, israel is already in favor of... hezbollah, then lebanon, egypt, the russian federation, well, that means it should be just tight there from weapons, from people with these weapons, what do you say, mr. oleksandr? in fact, i completely agree with you, we simply do not have such a unifying structure, either allied or military, whatever, in order to really create a conflict of this scale, and then the very logic of international relations at this stage says that there can be no such

conflict. which was in the 40s of the past century, because now we are returning to the cold war again. we have two camps, the democratic camp, led by the usa, and there is a camp of so-called alternative regimes, well, count the democracies, led by china, and as the first cold war showed us, in this second cold war, most likely, none of large countries will not strive for a world conflict, because why, well, that is , they want world domination, they want absolute leadership, and under modern technologies, under the conditions of the spread of nuclear weapons, under the conditions of how quickly conflicts are becoming global, something to rule over the wasteland, and therefore realistically, what we should expect is the aggravation of a huge number of local conflicts, but in fact this is what russia did, when it attacked ukraine last year, it opened pandora's box, it showed that the rules of the game do not apply, and therefore in the middle east, in africa, in

southeast asia, even. in america, everyone who had unresolved issues began to fight among themselves, and in each of these conflicts there is an american side and a pro-chinese side. accordingly, we will live in in this state, this will be our modus vivendi, a lot of small regional conflicts with the interest of each of the great powers. look, mr. oleksandr, i have a question then, you mentioned technology, i would emphasize technology. when we talk about terrorist organizations, i include there... not only hamas, but also, for example , such an organization called the russian federation, because there is no other way to call it, on february 24, 22, as an absolute terrorist attack, but when we are now let's see when i look at 12 american aircraft carriers when i look at the lack of russian aircraft carriers, when i see two aircraft carriers, it is not known whether they

have already passed all the chinese tests. then i understand that technologically and there is only one gerald ford, which is now flying there, in the eastern mediterranean, 90 planes on board, then i'm just having a hard time. imagine a war, i just wonder, do you think that the regimes, ala tehersky, ala hamas, ala hezbollah, and so on, that it is, well, as they say, in one wicket, when i played football as a child, there was such a phrase: in one wicket, when the advantage of one is clear team over the other, it was called one wicket, just imagine. israeli power, plus american power, plus all the nato countries have already said that we will not be left out either, i have a hard time imagining what is possible, what is possible, what is possible on the table, what cards, what aces do

the terrorists have, because they imagine it perfectly , and they saw this very well in iraq in the early 2000s, when literally in a few days, almost a million and a half iraqi troops were simply wiped off the face of the earth, and the americans, sorry for the ... even did not exert themselves particularly there, so they it perfectly understand, and the only thing they have, you rightly said that they can set the table, that's why they play with nuclear weapons, because as we see, russia constantly returns to nuclear weapons in difficult moments, iran constantly tries to revive its program and get these weapons somewhere, north korea is constantly playing with this topic, china wants to increase the number of nuclear warheads by the 27th year, they understand that in a non-nuclear conflict, they will lose incredibly, and you were right, tavian groups, well, the whole the aircraft carrier complex is exactly gerald ford for the audience, i say, this is what they see, this is exactly what gerald ford is, this is the same 2000 tons of diplomacy, which the americans often talk about, then the entire us fleet covers all

the troops of conventional enemies like bykavts, and in fact in a non-nuclear conflict they will definitely lose, and that is why they are betting on nuclear weapons, they are betting on terrorism, they are betting on the work of the special services of using chemical weapons in such work. as we saw it in the russians, that is, they they try to play dirty, because in a normal, full-fledged military match , they will definitely lose. this is a speculative question for you, mr. oleksandr, but i am convinced that the americans and in general the intelligence services, the western ones for sure, set themselves the task of finding out the real nuclear potential of the russian federation. obviously, china is not so interesting, because in... china has about 15 times less nuclear weapons than in the united states and in russia, there are about 5,000, china has about

300-400, but when we see how the war russia, then we begin, i begin to guess that they also have rockets in the mines, which do not know whether they will fly or not, the same on submarines, i have no guarantee that it will... take off and fly to where it needs to be , and not to moscow, for example, having made a mistake there by 10-15 miles, that is, as much as we can be more, i understand that even one bomb is a disaster for the globe, but we have already gotten used to the war in a year and a half, for it's not us anymore, not today, not on november 23 , 2022, when we thought that it couldn't be this will happen, but tell me how much we can believe in the ... nuclear potential of the russian federation? this is a very good question, and well, the americans, as we see, they treat them with some caution, simply because, as you said correctly, they themselves do not know, they do not know whether

these 4.5, 5, 5 are real , 5 warheads that were, is it a reduced potential, or did they really all pass inspection, this exact information is not available, but as they say, the american military themselves, the price of a mistake in this matter is a half-joke, plus or minus 500 million life that is, they simply cannot afford to underestimate the russians, and that is why they have to treat them as if they have a full-fledged arsenal, but from a technical point of view, unfortunately, i am not a military expert, but i consulted with colleagues who deal precisely with nuclear weapons issues , of nuclear disarmament, just asked them the same question, that is, how should we assess the russian potential, and the answer was very simple: tactical nuclear weapons must undergo re-equipment, and accordingly, in parallel with this, the training of personnel... staff, training pseudo-launches, engine launch training , every five years. strategic weapons must undergo re-equipment every 10-15 years. re-equipment includes the replacement of the main part, that is, the replacement of the very nuclear

component that makes the weapon a nuclear weapon. have we noticed such tests in the russian federation in the last 15-20 years. of course, we noticed the tests of the new equipment, we saw in them the mace, satan, the hero, everything that they try to show, but in fact, no full assessment there was no potential of russia's strategic and tactical nuclear forces, accordingly, we have no evidence that they... changed the nuclear part, that is, they may have uranus from the 80s and 90s lying there, sorry, so yes, absolutely there is a valid theory that the russian nuclear armed forces do not correspond to, well, the declared numbers, but well, no one wants to risk and check, the last question, mr. alexander, scientifically, you are not a military expert, but maybe you are a more scientific expert when such a story begins , something

in my head, well at least i would be the american president, i would call all the companies, all the nobel laureates in physics, chemistry, and so on, and ask, can we protect the globe from such an attack by nuclear nuclear russia, about china, i do not say, i do not believe that the chinese are such idiots as putin, but can we develop something in the short or medium term that will not allow us to guarantee ourselves that these plus or minus 500 million will not be, your word, mr. alexander, there are actually certain guarantee methods, we know that for example the same nato, in case of russian nuclear aggression, not even that of preparation for nuclear aggression, there are two types of response, as soon as the nuclear bunkers are opened, from which tactical nuclear warheads are to be obtained, there are two types of regulation, or a pre-emptive nuclear strike on this bunker to destroy and slam literally this nuclear can, or a non-nuclear strike to destroy the delivery infrastructure, everything, that is, nato

spends tens of billions of dollars to track this, to have access to this information, that is, those passed the times when satellites could not monitor the entire territory of russia, or even then the soviet union, because there were clouds, now satellites have such specific tracking capabilities that even a change in the radiation background at a specific interval of several kilometers can be noticed, and nato will be able to is to react. that is, there are protocols, there are possibilities of reactions, i apologize, in the background of the rocket flying, i thank oleksandr krayev, the expert of the ukrainian prism foreign policy council, now there will be advertising, and then to the near east, as it has become usual for you and me, damn stairs, my legs can't walk anymore, wait for me. that there is no health? and what kind of health is there in

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espresso and invited experts, based on facts, give their assessment and forecast of the development of events. do you want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow? see saturday politics club, every saturday on espresso. again good health, we have 15 minutes, even 14 left to talk about middle eastern problems, mykhailo pelivert , an israeli political scientist will be in touch with us now, we will switch, at least i am sure he will switch to russian, and and i will also switch to russian and we will speak in russian , hello, mikhail. it's nice to see you, although, to be honest, since i have been constantly watching the ninth channel of israeli television since the seventh, you are not an exotic person for me, you are from the seventh number, and the seventh, and the eighth, and the ninth, in my opinion, they did not go home , they were watching all the time, i saw everyone, everyone who wants to know what

is happening in israel, this is the russian-language ninth channel, i recommend it to everyone, to me, between by the way, mikhail did not pay anything for this advertisement. keep in mind, keep in mind, absolutely, absolutely, thank you very much, and not only me, many israelis have no sense of time anymore, this week has flown by so much that not everyone knows what day it is today, mikhail, look , well, it turns out, if we are so wide, wide with the strokes of the masters, let's paint a picture, then hamas won, iran won, russia won, let's say, the reactionary muslims won, israel lost, america lost, the democracies lost, because among other things, except for deaths, simply, if we look at geostrategists, then, desire to have any diplomatic relations between

israel and saudi arabia, torpedoed and torpedoed in general, this entire history of peace, the possibilities of peace between the arabs and thousands of people died in the middle east, it seems to me, well, that's the question, what are you? you call it a victory, eh, we have undoubtedly received a very vile blow - below the belt, eh , our citizens, most of them civilians, but eh, there is a flip side to this coin, absolutely unprecedented mobilization of israeli society, i am not even afraid say, the entire world community, we have more than 94 countries, we have already been supported, i think others will also support us, so democracies, you know, fight, they do not like to go to war, but if they are cornered, they

fight to victory end, it's absolutely, no there is no doubt about it, i was asked here in one of the interviews, do you really think that israel is an angel? i said... this is not an angel, but we are at war with the absolute satan now, and this, this fact in itself, gives our face an angelic outline, so i now , this is not accidental, this is interested in creating various points , tensions, peace, and this is, you see , she must get full for all the evil that she wants to bring to the free peace, which makes rockets to protect its citizens, and does not protect its rockets with its citizens, look, mikhail, but

will the jews give themselves an account, about what i thought on the seventh already, что сейчас... will be such a tsunami of anti-israelism, despite your words about 94 countries, because for the palestinians a day, well, two, yes, they somehow entered and left, well, or they were expelled, let's say better, and now the history of the operation will last for weeks, and the mass media will report every day, poor, poor palestinians, terrible israelis, they are here these poor unfortunates, this is the moment, it will be very, it will not improve the situation and reno.

we just don't have to, we now have to defeat our enemy, first of all, it was imposed on us, yes, unfortunately , we did not initiate these tragic events on saturday, they were imposed on us, but israel's reaction cannot be the same, what it has been like for the past 20 years, i want to remind everyone that in israel we israelis have already started joking that in ag ... perceived as absolutely such a constant in our life, these were usually short skirmishes, 2, 3, 4, 5 days, it seemed to us that at the end of these skirmishes, at the end of these limited operations, we would come to some kind of agreement with hamas, which he would supposedly comply with, it turned out that he did not, this concept blew up in our face, and hamas had been preparing for this attack for a year and a half and did it clearly not alone, but with the help of various other enemies of ours, of which

there are unfortunately many, so now here this the war imposed on us, we must win it, we simply have no other choice now, so i agree with you about israel's reputation, it will now suffer from attacks, very quickly the international community will remember the humanitarian situation, it is indeed very difficult, it indeed, it is very difficult, and the pictures of dead children and destroyed houses do not make me happy, but literally in the near future, residents of the northern part of the gaza strip have time to leave this territory, israel warned today and gave a six-hour corridor so that all residents who consider themselves peaceful, they do not want to be in the territory in which there will be... a cleanup is taking place, they can leave this territory and concentrate in the south, in the southern

sector, where israel will not bomb, this is an official statement, there, there will be military actions minimal, but here a lot depends, of course, on the shuttle diplomacy that blinken is engaged in today, he visited egypt, jordan, and now he is in the united arab emirates. there is an attempt to convince egypt to open the raakh checkpoint and let it pass there, several hundreds of thousands of palestinians, residents of gaza, are there now, you know, it is usually very hot there on the sinai peninsula , it is almost impossible to stay there, but now in october the climatic conditions are very mild and if the organization of the united... you can build a tent city there very quickly and to provide civilians with all

the necessary conditions for living, i understand that it is temporary, that is , let's all focus on solving the problem, and i do not deny that it is, but benjamin netanyahu gave the order that all actions are israeli. armies will comply with international , international legal law, you know, you and i have talked a lot over the last year about the fact that benjamin netanyahu was not represented as the enemy by hamas , the supreme court of justice, the supreme court of israel, it is an independent court , thank god, it’s still, that’s why the decisions that he is now looking at, the government’s decision, this means... that he checks the actions of the army on the subject compliance with international law.

mikhail, look, here is the last question: in the triangle of kiev, jerusalem, moscow, something will change in this triangle in the near future, and given that the israeli press is writing that not only the ears of iran, but also the ears of the kremlin with this terrible attack, how can this change the situation in this triangle? i think that yes, we are going to escalate, the circumstances themselves, you see, i cannot now prove, disprove or confirm, to what extent the kremlin participated in the preparation of this barbaric, attacks, but at the same time the very events that are happening now are breaking the bridges between israel and russia, pushing us in different directions, just a few minutes before our meeting, i saw fake reports that israel is using phosphorous bombs in the gaza sector, then reread it... it turned out that this message was about half a year ago about russian bombings in ugledar, that is

, the number of fakes is now so large that it speaks with high probability... and about something very complicated, very complicated, and i i want to remain within the limits of facts, credibility, to preserve a reputation, as it were, so that we are believed, therefore, now, by the way, in contrast to zelsky, who spoke incredibly warm and heartfelt words about the war that israel is waging, russia still did not even express condolences, on the contrary, statements were made according to which, as far as i understand, israel, what israel is doing now with the gas sector, i put it in quotes, this is the same thing that the nazis did with leningrad, yes, yes, and hamas thanked for the position putin, these are some monstrous things

some monstrous, monstrous loss, understanding of what is good and what is bad, i repeat, now we need to concentrate, muster our will into a fist, and the international community is our friends, not the international community, our friends will help us, i think , in the coming days, as you know, this fog of war, the fog of war, will develop, we are still, there are many things that we do not understand, but by the way, the coming hours are critical, by the way, the foreign minister of iran gave israel a few hours to stop the bombing , otherwise, as he said, they will unfold, thank you very much, mykhailo pelivert, an israeli political scientist, i took a minute and a half, thank you very much, to explain about memory, about what mr. mykhailo and i started talking about, that we are almost starting to forget, the behavior of the palestinians, or parts

of the palestinians, a week ago, there were murders, and this is such a problem of memory, you see, i just started to remember afghanistan, yes , now they say, oh, the americans lost in afghanistan, where afghanistan began, from the year 73, zaheer shah was there, then daud was there, then the soviets came there in 1979 year, and that's how it started, the same with milošević, let's take milošević, let's take yugoslavia, yes, oh, nato, how can serbia, yes, belgrade, everyone remembers only the second step, the first, no one remembers for some reason, very few people, especially in russia, remember how it all started, when milosevic, the leader of yugoslavia , attacked all neighbors, all neighbors, croats, slovenes, and this continued for years

and decades, then he got... a nose and now everyone shouts, first of all the russians: ay-yay-yay, what a horror, how can they be bombed belgrade, who began bombing its neighbors, who began to bring not order, but disorder in afghanistan, like the soviet union, what happened in yugoslavia, if it were not for that serb milosevic, and so everywhere, and now i can already see this, this situation, came, killed 1500 people, took the hall. tortured, beheaded, what should the israeli state do, sit, watch, no, it will try to defeat hamas , liberate its people, but the whole world will hear, there they bomb gas, forgetting that gas is not, no, israel attacked gas , and gas attacked

to israel, with details about today's events: iryna koval on news on espresso tv, and i say goodbye to you, good luck. thank you, mr. mykola, have a nice evening, in just a moment i will talk about the situation in different regions of our country and also about what is currently happening in israel, wait. in ukraine, news time on the espresso tv channel in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all viewers. one person died due to enemy shelling in the kherson region. in the afternoon, the russians attacked boryslav district. one of the breakfasts made me sweat near a residential building. a woman died. she was on the balcony at that time, the regional prosecutor's office said. during the day, the enemy attacked kherson, hitting one of the district markets. fortunately, there are no injured people -