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significant and reliable events. it's analytics, fact-checking, expert commentary, about it and much more in today's issue, about what's important in plain language, accessible to all viewers. greetings, iryna koval is in the studio, and these are the results of the week on the espresso tv channel. news, summaries of the week, every saturday at 21:00 on espresso. the saturday political club continues, with you. vasyl winter, from 20:00 vitaly portnikov will join us, we will summarize this week with him, and now i will continue the conversation with our guests, vadim polishchuk, historian, political observer, from the city of lod in israel, and we will talk with him more details about the situation in israel itself. mr. vadim, i congratulate you, good evening, but , sorry, i can't hear you very well, i will speak loudly
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, so you can hear, well, a little better, yes, the situation with... for now in israel in the gas sector, what is happening, on what stage is this war? now it is at the stage of full readiness for land use operations, that is, strikes on gas continue, terrorists from gaza still have a little strength to bite back, that is, there were a couple of alarms in israel today, they continued, continued. indiscriminate rocket strikes on peaceful israeli cities, well, israel has already announced that it is already fully prepared for an almost dry-corner operation, since it is already known that the population in the north is being very actively gassed, and well, there is, there is a probability that already such raids by certain groups will begin, already
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massed in the north of gaza, where... the population is evacuated from the gaza sector, this is because, let's say, egypt closed its, its borders and does not accept refugees, so far the evacuation is going from north to south, and there, this population is gathering, as far as i know, there are negotiations between turkey and egypt on this matter, turkish, because hamas and the turkish government... they are somewhat ideologically related, and maybe qatar will join in some way , which has constantly sponsored and supported hamas, that is, it seems to me that this problem is now being solved, because there are really so many people, well , we have to go somewhere, because to stay in this in such a zone of such active hostilities, well, not
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that it is impossible and they do not need it. what is the goal of the israeli army, especially the israeli army after the ground operation in the territory of the gaza strip? again, please, i won't make it. what is the purpose of the israel defense forces in the first place, their ground operation in the gaza sector? well, the goal of the israeli army was voiced by the political leadership that set it this goal , it is first of all ... the physical destruction of hamas as a military structure, everyone, everyone who holds a weapon in the gaza strip, everyone who carries out shelling, all had to be either destroyed or captured in any, well any way, the termination of the existence of this structure should be carried out. and according to your estimation, how much time will this operation take when it starts in full, how
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much approximately: how much time is given, or is tsehal expected to take, to clear the gas sector from terrorists, first of all? well, it is very difficult to say, because everyone knows that. there is a powerful underground structure that hamas has been preparing for many years, and how much, even if it is possible to capture this territory, the clearing of the underground structure will continue for some time, for which it is necessary to use special units of special special forces, and how long it will last, and what about the population, how quickly it will be possible to evacuate it from the area, so that the tzahal has... more opportunities, let's say large-scale use of heavy, heavy weapons, it's hard to say , time will tell, let's try to find out and explain to our
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viewers, because there are experts now, there are many issues of the israeli-palestinian conflict, but few people know, so i want to call you, the population of the gas sector, is it how diverse it is, or how homogeneous it is, and then what can be further in this territory? after this operation is successfully completed, let's believe it, well the population of gaza, in itself, it is quite homogeneous, unlike, if compared to the population, all the other arabic-speaking groups in the territory of israel, the people of samaria, because there are people there of different origins, er, even there arabs, christians, arabs who, recently...' became arabs, and their ancestors spoke turkic kurdish languages, in kurdish languages, in circassian, and there are friends, there are bedouins who distinguish themselves, and
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hamas is, well, we had a connection, now we have it, who once moved there in search of a better fate, and for years , let's say, the egyptian occupation, from 48 to 67 and during the rule of hamas in these territories, well, they formed some kind of community there, primarily ideological, due to instilling hatred for israel, and this is a fairly, fairly homogeneous group , in fact, and all who disagreed at the time, there was a buga, when hamas fought for power in this territory, it was very active, even though it actually killed supporters of other palestinian currents, primarily fatah there, and well, in fact , there is also islamic jihad in addition to hamas, but
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the difference between them is not very great and they tolerated them in first of all, it is possible that, well, that was the will of their, let's say sponsors, that there should be another such and such a group on the territory. gas, and mr. vadim, the internal political situation, in israel, 85%, as far as i understand, from sociological data, want, i will say so, answers from the government netanyahu, is it possible to reformat the government, will this discontent grow, how will this issue be resolved, no, well, what the polls show is that the israeli population wants answers to these questions, it is natural, and the government to, well, let's say, to answer these demands, we must give these answers, but this, as you know, as they say
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, is not at the right time, because really, now all, all the efforts of the authorities are focused on military operations, when it ends, then the search time will begin guilty and we hope that it will not be you know how sometimes the innocent are rewarded and the innocent are punished, last time in 1973 a special commission was created , a grenade, it was the head of the commission, the head of the supreme court, and it looked into why, how it happened, that the attack of the arabs of countries was a surprise for israel, now, precisely in this format of the commission, well, it will be a bit of a conflict of interests, because the supreme court is now with the rank and file and with the coalition, let's say, it was a little bit in such not very good
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relations before the war, and - let's say yes, the dispassion of such a court will be under such the commission will be under question, so this, well, it still needs to be... somehow it will be decided, in what way , who, who should deal with it, whether, whether it should be dealt with by the military, or the government, or the judiciary, well, that’s a question, right away it is very difficult to answer, and please tell me, then, to what extent israel is now actively discussing, first of all, those people who are supposed to discuss it, but also the understanding of the people, the role of russia in this well-prepared invasion, which was accompanied, let me remind you, by intelligence, and a hacker attack, and it was good to hear the russian language when the militants invaded the territory of israel, that's all, well, russia supports hamas from that
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, it doesn't even hide it, well, for many, i think that in israel it became a factor of some enlightenment, because really among the russian-speaking community of israel, and maybe even more and even among the eurythic-speaking community, there were many people who were sympathetic to putin, and for whom they did not understand what russia actually was... and besides, the soviet union always supported the enemies of israel, and to consider it a friendly country to israel was at least somehow well, it is an exaggeration, and there is, of course, some amount of such, you know, mother-of-pearl wool, which, well, it is impossible to reveal to the eyes of those who do not see it, they will say that it is a fake, that in fact everything is wrong, but i think that
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a rethinking will take place and i would like, first of all, such our government in israel had a rethinking, which would finally understand that with russia it is necessary to already be determined and somehow be in the middle already between, the state of democracy, the state of uh, dictatorship, it is already somehow impossible, it is necessary to move completely to the side of the light, tell me please, and here is that one, here and, well, the pipe, that’s how you can say it, the route is this, according to the hydrocarbon, which was supposed to go from saudi arabia through israel, then to europe, which, well, if you have information, what is the fate of it now, because many people said, that russia could join this war, not even to weaken the support of ukraine, in order to disrupt this agreement, which could raise questions about the profits of china and the profits of russia itself? mr. vadim, can you hear me,
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uh, did you hear my question, will you repeat it, now, now, i have a little skype, i messed up, i don’t see you, wait a minute, well, the main thing here is that we see you, now mr. vadim will set up the image, because television is a picture, after all, and well, but, but this, mr. vadimech, oh , we need to give you back a little, and we will see you, right, well, we will see now, we still have a little time , so mr. vadim will definitely answer this question, it was talked about by the way, and people, you know, always use the formula that politics is a continuation of the economy, and war is politics by other means, they are here looked at where there is a continuation of the economy here, because very, very often, if not always,
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big wars start over territories. because of resources, because of money, because of influences, because of dominance in this or that region, and dominance is the possession of resources, well, we are not, the raspberry children were not born yesterday, we perfectly understand that, let's say, germany started the first world war precisely because to expand its sales markets, because then great britain dominated and germany, in fact, which had an economic surge, did not i had nowhere to put it all, so of course it is necessary to start a war and change the economic and import-export map a little, well, what about hitler. it's hard to say where the economy was, there's just a sick person with a sick head, well, actually like vladimir putin, but vladimir putin is sick sick, you know, but they count money very well, and they throw money at it as long as it's there, and they want to have the perspective that this money will continue, we know very well that the russian company gazprom now has critical, critical indicators for gas production, they simply have fallen, it is no longer profitable for them to extract oil in principle, but i understand that they are paying extra for it, the oil that they sold from... to india, the indians do not return the money to them, because it must be returned in rupees,
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russia does not wants, they say, give us this money that we owe you, here in india you will invest in something, well, you will have some, some, that is why russia needs money, you know, this story that russia can fight forever, no one and never can fight forever without money, well, hitler's germany lost economically, it lost resource-wise, if hitler had captured, let's say, the oil tankers of the soviet union after winning at stalingrad, you would have seen that war come back or say if stalin at the beginning of the invasion, when he threw his troops into romania, well you know when hitler invaded the soviet union , the soviet troops invaded there, on the territory controlled by germany at that time, and they almost reached romania , well, but it didn’t work out, so here we are also looking for the economy, mr. vadim, please tell me, this is the story from, from wire, hydrocarbon, which was supposed to go from saudi arabia through israel and , as they say, knock down, knock down, the bases of china and russia, which, whether they don't
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talk about it now, well, they say that it's really one of the whole, this bloody operation of hamas. it was just to disrupt this, this agreement, the creation of this corridor from india, through saudi arabia, israel to europe, and actually, well, this agreement is now in question, because the saudis, they would really like this agreement, but they have, well, pressure from below, let's say, because the population of all arab countries has been fostering hatred of israel for many years, and after of these events, they know... well, to continue, let's say this agreement, is to expose ourselves to very serious problems inside these countries, so in the best case, after this already operation to control the gas, maybe some time should pass before again
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to return to this agreement, especially since it was already, let's say, for a long time, because it was supposed to be... ensured to be an infrastructure provider, ports, railways, oil pipelines, it is not a matter of one day that it is signed and everything it worked, please tell me, but there is a vision and understanding, well, that's it the ground operation will end, no matter how long it lasts, the hamas cell will be destroyed, and then, what's next, russia demands, says, let's establish a palestinian state, on the territory that it occupies today in the middle east, or let's have another we'll come up with something, well, that's it. how do we solve this issue, israel, of course, has its own vision, is there a plan, or at least, is it communicated to the citizens of israel, what, what to do next, to introduce a temporary administration, some kind of filtering, re-educating the population, well what to do, because there will be a threat, just like the threat of russia for us, there will always be, and so for
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israel there will be a threat from those who consider the destruction of the state of israel to be the purpose of their existence, well , we must, we must remember that on... no a single, let's say, palestinian government has not existed for many, many years, that is, in gaza there was a hamas government, well, with its henchmen from the islamic jihad, these are islamists, radicals, on the territory of judea and samaria, the so-called palestinian autonomy, there is a fatah government, these are more secular such people, they also have a terrorist group, but they are more moderate, it is believed, and prone to some compromises, although they do not have any legitimization, because they lost the elections and remain only because, well , first of all, israel and the united states
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benefit from the existence of this administration, and as soon as it receives this money for the support of palestine, it has representation of such , well, not quite state, but semi-state in many structures, and hamas, well, in fact, it was such an unrecognized structure, well, it actually existed there, it was supported many countries, and they went to russia, they were received there as relatives, and qatar supported them, actually transferred money for them, and turkey somehow cheered for them, although, for example, the same egypt did not like them very much, because their muslim brothers, something... but not so long ago in egypt, the modern government removed them from managing the country, that is why they were dangerous for them, that is why they do not really want to accept these gas people, because they see them as some kind of danger for themselves, well, maybe, maybe will they launch gas into the territory, if
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the arab population remains there, those fatahites, will they be able, will they be able to take power there and keep it? this is a question, because there is such a thing, you know, the population can be against them , well, everything will depend on what will remain there after this war, if there is no arab population left there, maybe a decision will be made to take this territory under israel , under some management, if it remains, well, they will decide, although this is an option with fatah coming there, well , many in israel do not like it very much perceived, actually. well, people think that in fact israeli blood will be paid for the creation of such a thing for the conquest of this palestine. which they dream of, well, it is in our video of ramal, by the way, we can see it, and i will ask one last question, please tell
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me if there is now a probability that third powers can join this war, there is a deterrent factor, the united states of america has 3,000 israeli troops mobilized, well, this is a huge force, in such a limited area, we all understand this very well, but why does anyone have enough, it is not a lack of courage, but it is obviously stupid to intervene in this war, well, you see that hamas is actually in this situation, it has taken a suicidal step, and if they were thinking with their heads and did not receive maybe some orders from their sponsors and keririchis, they would never dare to do such a thing, and the same hezbollah can also get an order from their sponsors, let's go ahead and go on such a ... murderous offensive that will cost them a lot, and not the fact that
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hezbollah will survive, such a sigh, because well, well, israel is very determined, and the united states of america is determined, well, there has never been such a thing in history that they immediately stood up for israel, in the history of all these arab-israeli wars, in fact, if they joined, the united states of america joined in helping , but it was just help and not immediately, but here and immediately and in fact readiness for directly direct intervention, this was unexpected by many, first of all by our enemies, thank you very much, mr. vadim, thank you for taking the time to get involved and tell more about the situation in israel, vadym polishchuk, historian, political observer from the city of lod, israel, talked about the israeli war, which has been going on for the eighth day, and we actually believe that tzahal from... can end it with the support of partners, of course,
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but actually on his own he has all the strength and means to clear the gas sector, the gas sector, from the enemy, well, you know, the gas sector is a little bit, well, somewhere there is about plus or minus the city of kharkiv, this, again after all, when ukrainians very often compare now to the war in ukraine and the war in israel, how we had what, where, where, listen, well, a little here. it is necessary to take good moments somewhere, to see what is good, but we must not forget that our front is hundreds of kilometers from kherson oblast, well from crimea, kherson oblast ends with azhm oblast, there is chernihiv oblast and so on, well, that is, it is still a front, because there there are saboteurs somewhere, it doesn’t matter where we keep the defense forces, well, these are not comparable things, but we believe that israel will be able to close this issue, and this kind of desire will disappear in russia, rather than weaken the help of the americans to ukraine will not be glorified, well, today we will talk about it with vitaly portnikov, and now we will talk with anna daukshevych, a lithuanian journalist,
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she covers the elections in poland, which are to be held tomorrow, and since 2014, she has been covering the war in ukraine . anna, i congratulate you, good day, well, what do they say, what do they say, well, today is a day of silence, i understand that there were no sociological data today, but still, on the eve of a decisive manifestation of will: oh, i speak so loudly, because i'm with the previous one the guest had to speak loudly, i will be a little quieter, what are the expectations , who is betting on what, well, we have to understand, after all , who can come first in this race, from the two main parties that actually claim to win , this is a civil coalition and law and justice, please, and yes, we all what we see, what the survey showed, of course. that's right, today is a day of silence, but yesterday there was a poll
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and it shows that a little more, the party should get the right and justice, but if we compare, we will compare with by what happened in the previous elections, of course, she will not get such a percentage anymore, and it is already clear, it is already different. er, experts, various polls prove that this will definitely not happen, and this is where the interesting part begins, because if the polls show that law and justice they get a little more than 30% of the votes, but of these people , of course, who will come to elections, but this is not enough, and on the other hand, the platform that is trying to return to power after... two terms of office, it bets on the fact that
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there is a confederation, there is that this road is the third way, it seems to me, ukrainian. it will be that it will then be a coalition and they will be in power, and i will tell you this way that the tension is very, very high in poland, because when you talk to poles, even more so, to experts, politicians, then they sometimes say that this is a choice, not only, not only the choice of candidates for the parliament, that it is the choice of absolutely poland, which way it should go, we have all seen the scandals with the european union of poland and the contradiction between poland and the european union, we have seen the same quite beautiful, let's say so
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the campaign, when even the question of ukraine had already been raised because of the elections, when a dispute began over ukraine because of the grain, although we all understand that it is not because of the grain, not because of any issues, that it concerns the elections, and well, we just hope that after the elections it will end, but the tension is very, very high, because of course there are voters, pissing, which always, of course, this is more relevant to the regions, because today i went from vilnius to warsaw and although we are talking about day of silence but for example in in the regions, there are still many, many billboards with representatives of the candidates for the parliament from the peace party in warsaw, it is quiet, somehow, there is little to see, in warsaw there were even more billboards with candidates, for example, platforms, because these are, of
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course, slightly different voters, and of course they are trying to advertise exactly where it is needed, that is why the tension is actually very, very high, and that is why i am from lithuania here, i think that tomorrow there will be many, many journalists from other countries, please tell me and the expected turnout at the elections, i i just don't know how it is in poland, maybe there is always a high turnout, in ukraine there have been different presidential and parliamentary elections in history, well, different, different things have happened, i will tell you this way that the expected turnout is more- less than 60% of ee ee voters, this is more or less , when i look, for example, at being a citizen of lithuania, when i myself vote in elections in lithuania, eh, this is more or less normal for our countries, because in lithuania also it happens to be more or less 60%, in
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the last elections in poland there were also, er , more or less 60% of people, and of course, here now there are there is also a referendum in poland, a bit strange, i would say, because the question there is a bit strange, eh, but eh, nothing so extraordinary is expected, that even when they say that this is a real election of poland, will it go democratic way, will he go the way of orban, for example, which ones do we have, which also , well, of course, he causes a lot of problems for us in ukraine and even for us in the european union, but somehow, well, not from what, maybe, i don’t know, maybe tomorrow it will show that, it will show that there will be a lot more people, but for now the survey shows that these will be normal elections, there will be nothing extraordinary in terms of people's activity, and finally, how seriously
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was the ukrainian card played, did it remain relevant to the last , ukrainian issues in particular, there are also refugees, and aid, and grain, and and military aid, there were many issues, but all of this revolves around ukraine, and to what extent ukraine has polarized the representatives of the left and the right, who are going, well, actually going after victory, as they say, going nose to nose, right? of course, the ukrainian question was very important, because there are always at elections, there are always voters who, for example, are dissatisfied , dissatisfied with the state of affairs in the country and are looking for: you know, some kind of enemy, well, an external external enemy, and here, there is a part of the people, you should not lie to yourself that even in poland there , nor in lithuania, in other countries, and in germany, for example, there are no people there who, i don’t know, are tired of the war or, i don’t know, don’t even support ukraine, although there are
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a small number of them, but they are always there such things

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