[000:00:00;00] on how exactly the territory and this people were subdued and subjugated depends very much in different ways, unfortunately, there are a lot of such cases, i would say stockholm syndrome, it is possible that those states that subjugated them the most there, they are trying now to serve, this is now the most rebellious state, where the war continued, now because of the kadyrov clan, which basically froze this war and the civil war and the war against russia, because again, i want to remind you about the civil war, i mentioned, in russia, the moscow father strategy always says that everywhere around us there are only civil wars, and we are just moderators, and in ukraine there was a civil war, is it already ongoing, and in donbas, and over there in chechnya, there was also a civil war between dudayev and his opponents, and we came there, although in fact, they are fanning them, supporting one

of the forces, discording the nations, if you go back in history, are all eyes captured, the center of the land by muscovy, the east, the north, were they colonies, for example, what was the status of the ukrainian lands? well, actually, this is a hot debate among scientists right now, can we consider the status of ukraine in the russian empire as colonial, and here we can say, in principle, that the suljuks of byzantium, i know, were captured by the turks, but in principle, whether the turks had byzantium as a colony, well, it’s a breath, rather it is still an occupied territory , or annexed, or which was in a relationship, some such dependence, for me, classical colonialism is, of course, that , firstly, it is left-wing rhetoric, colonialism, secondly, it is tied to maritime empires, primarily great britain, and moscow is, first of all, a lower-level state

structure, and the second is, in principle, a continental power that spread to where the borders were closed, perhaps in some unique way there is only alaska, which for a certain time was part of the russian empire of the moscow empire, but then it was successfully disposed of , on the other hand, of course there were classic colonial wars of some kind, if it concerned the conquest of siberia , if it was campaigns in central asia, when it was the imposition of a relatively speaking moscow way of life, persecution of traditional cultures, and the like, because you understand, more in why... a paradox, or let's say it like this, the difficulty of explaining, justifying colonialism, in relation to ukraine, because such phenomena , the kyiv-mohyla academy is known to everyone, yuriy , in my opinion, even a graduate of the reincarnation of the kyiv-mohyla academy in the present time, but if we talk about the 17th century, it is based on jesuit medicine, a higher educational institution that trained thousands

of personnel who essentially use... the apparatus of the muscovite empire, spread, relatively speaking, education, the values ​​of enlightenment, in present-day tatarstan, in the country of siberia, if we today if we are talking about the autonomy that exists in pobolzhia, that is, tatarstan, the republic of tatarstan, bashkartstan, mariel, the republic of mordovia, udmurtia, then these countries that are now, in fact, under the occupation of the russian moscow empire, they were, if they were prepared for the emergence of a phenomenon it is political precisely for the kimogians, who created the first alphabets for these peoples, for the udmurts, for the mari people, such metropolitan venyamin puse grigoryovych, the hierarch of lohvytskyi, who is a stavropolite, he did it all, that is why colonialism is here, i think it is inappropriate, but, i would spoke in the categories of annexations and occupation, and i would like to add that in fact this is all rhetoric very much

used by russian muscovites, it is constantly alleged that ukraine was a co-author of the empire, it was an organic part, we were not a colony, and all these facts are really true, that ukrainian cities, ukrainian management cadres, ecclesiastics, the empire of chancellery was built there under catherine ii, the cossacks went , pacified and the incorporation of the elites, when the elites, the elites were given nobility, there were high positions, it’s all true, it’s all true, they bought it, but it is not proof, because we have to look. cannot be compared with other empires and in fact, two lines, one line is cultural influence , cultural hegemony, administrative, and the other is economic and political development, and economic and political development speaks about the colony, who is a metropolis, who is a colony, because we can see, let's say, the roman empire, well, ancient times, it was not a colony of judea, christianity emerged from judea, it became the dominant religion of the roman empire, this

means that in retrospect judea turns out not to have been and became the metropolis of the roman empire, for example, if we look at the russian empire, this is how ukrainians build, ukrainians fight, intellectuals think. ukrainians write about the future of history there, culture, but let's see, in the 19th century, where the greatest development is industrialization, where industrialization is taking place, tula, astrakhan, lower novgorod, it is a center of trade and economic growth, there are 10 centenarians, in ukraine there three hundred thousand people, and it is very difficult, then everything goes, develops very slowly, kyiv is generally a very marginal small town, compared to tula, i was there three times before the middle of the 19th century, and weapons are made there, but here only bread is grown in ukraine and exported, isn’t this a sign, we can talk about classical colonialism already in soviet times, when already after the holodomor after

the first, second and third, each time there were actions to import the population of moscow into the territory of ukraine, it was just classic colonization, i.e. colony and colonization, and when they say that in the 30s , two... population which many things did not last here, some left, and some stayed, and i looked at the statistics of roman brzeski, he is such an interesting sociologist, historian, he lived in america after world war ii, he gave interesting statistics that from 1951 to the 1980s, every year on the territory of the ukrainian ssr, the so-called they imported 150,000 muscovites, the most imported were the ones that the soviet government developed the most industrially, all of them in the dnipro region, the donbas region, there are the most factories there. and this was the most grusified, and where the mostly ukrainian

population remained, western central ukraine was artificial it turned out in such a semi-rural central ukraine was also diluted well, for example, by military pensioners who were offered to relocate, for example, to cherkasy, specially, indeed, and when russia started a war in donbas in 14th year, here are these military pensioners, let's tell them that they are oppressed here , although people lived for 40 years, but let's go back to the captured lands, was there even any resistance there at all, did these renewed peoples find the strength to fight, well , in fact, all the stories of takeovers and annexations, which were carried out by moscow, they were non-linear, although in principle, if the territory somehow resisted and did not negotiate. as ukraine is now, and from their imagination, imagination, such a full-scale, sometimes total war was declared to them, the most brutal things can be said about the liquidation of novgorod, the destruction of the novgorod republic, and conditionally speaking, soft takeovers, that is conditionally speaking, when

a long in a long way, for decades , the nobility was bribed, married to muscovites or muscovites, and enjoyed some such economic connections, and then was absorbed, the territory could be absorbed invisibly, that is... they cooked a frog, yes, that’s why on a slow fire, but also, but also worked like crocodiles, when they simply attacked and, in principle, bit off the leg and bled, we we know about the perioslav agreement, when the muscovites made an agreement with us very nicely on all our terms , and then that every decade its level of autonomy decreased, then wars began against them , mass demonstrations, and what happened to the bashkirs in the 16th century, when they conquered kazan khanate, bashkirs were in ukraine. there they were, but they were a force that was distributed between the nogai horde, the siberian khanate, and in order to destroy these other states , they supported the bashkirs, they also gave them super rights, almost allied with moscow, there, everything is yours, nature is all

yours, use it without taxes, take sovereigns as much as you want, but only be vasalnin with us, and after 10-20 years they began to reduce their rights there, they began to evict tatars from kazan in bashkiria. the bashkirs began to take offense at this, again, here two honeys are killed, with on the one hand, the peoples are exterminating, on the other hand, they are creating, expanding their zone, the empire, the bashkirs began to rise and there was , every 10 years 20 there was a great bashkir uprising, the whole 17th century, 18th and the biggest war, by the way, until the end of the 18th century the biggest rebellion against the empire by mainly non-russian muscovite peoples, this is the war of yemelin pohachev, which they first pushkin , who wrote about russians, for some reason russian, what is russian there, it is unclear, the rebellion is meaningless, and

this is also propaganda, in fact, pushkin writes, the russian rebellion is senseless, merciless, supposedly the russians rebelled, although the majority of pugachev ’s army, they were, well, the don cossacks, there were ural cossacks, bashkirs, tatars, zakha, the kalmyks fought for him, that is, it was such a mass movement of enslaved peoples for a better system and with the then monarchical good tsar, they wanted...' to change this system , to change it, to create some kind of better living arrangement, but then they were suppressed and started that propaganda, only they could not, but the bashkirs could not suppress the idea, because the bashkir movement the entire people harnessed themselves, this bogachov riot, was so significant that even soviet historians were forced to admit, spitting, that there were two leaders, pugachev, russian, supposedly, although from the little russian village of winter. solovat yulaev is a native

of bashkir. well, it ends with the bashkirs, in the 18th century it was even forbidden to be blacksmiths so that they would not forge weapons for themselves, well, it’s not only for them, it’s also for the erzyans and odmurts after the big armed uprisings, then they confiscated just metal objects, sharp-edged ones, by the way, the americans confiscated the japanese have everything, swords are specific after of the second world war, so these are not unique things, but do these peoples remember the history of their... struggle, are there any movements in russia that could lead to something, all this is there, but there are two two , if the things that we should remember, firstly , moscow historical science, moscow propaganda, moscow information space is oversaturated with manipulations that lead to the fact that even after the grandest war, which was implemented by the bashkortostan nation against muscovy. all this is called

a riot, that's all, yuriy rightly says it's some kind of misunderstanding, banditry, and you basically can't approach the phenomenon of a nationally liberated war, your own reward, with a clear head, and your parents can't tell you, and what it was, it was a riot, bandits, so the will of these nations before interpreting its history, it must be supported by us ukrainians , by the way, because we can even where...some people underestimate the way in which the entire upa movement, which could be pushed into the rhetoric of banditry, was a threat, but in fact the entire nation the intellectual power of ukraine, it has invested over the past 50 years enormous resources for it to be neos, an indisputable and axiomatic thing, it was a national liberation movement, but it was efforts, it was institutions, it was people, resources, schools, communities that worked for this knowledge, there is such in the occupied peoples in the russian federation?

at least, the memory of the resistance to the muscovites is transmitted, of course it is transmitted, but this knowledge is not structured and politically formalized, so we again have one more homework to work on, let's give an example of this, well , an example, well, for example, i don't know , the only thing that maybe the tatars succeeded, the fact of the storming of kazan and the muscovite-tatar, muscovite-bulgarian war of the 16th century was interpreted as a national liberation struggle, and they celebrate with arrests, they do not celebrate, but celebrate, of course, with arrests with problems for people who take participation in the annual commemoration of the fall of the cauldron, then for them it is, in principle, a fact that the resistance of the tatar bulgarian nation is a muscovite, it was, it has a five-hundred-year history, and today on their agenda is the same task, sovereignty, independence, the revival of the tatar state, if we talk, for example, about such finno-ugric peoples, of which there are also many, then

we should introduce such concepts as resistance to moscow, web-moscow, karelian-moscow, erzyan-moscow, odmurto, odmur- the moscow war is complicated, because in reality, the histories of these nations are not actually written, they are not introduced to the masses, and because of this , in principle, it is fragmented. , all they know that it is a war, for them it is forbidden to talk about war, even people who are considered to be independent there, and they say svo, svo, so it is with ukraine, it is the 21st century, it is social networks , this is an information space, but imagine if this is a criminalized definition of war in relation to all these peoples who were occupied, where we can assess that the matter... there is a great level of national consciousness that can be worked with not from scratch,

where moscow is forced to say no to keep silent, but to speak, however, putting your accents. here we are, it seems to me, that you can say that you are a public figure, you can say that you are the leader of the finnogorsk, and what is this indicator, because now it is literally the 22nd year that the war with ukraine began, the aggravation of imperial syndromes inside russia, but at the end of autumn they they released... a film, even , some liberal director made it, it seems, but it was shown on tv channels , russian ones were shown in cinemas, a film about, i don’t remember, the gold of parma seems to be the story is essentially written in a novel of the middle ages, how the principality of komi was in the 15th century, how it was gradually conquered by moscow, of course everything is presented there in very hushed tones, but the very fact that it is said is evidence of what

it is about , request and fear that this should be discussed in one's resource, and not just kept silent, but look, the republic of komi, chuvashia, mariel, kalmykia, sakha, buryatia, bashkatastan, tatarstan are those regions that, starting from july 1990 declared their state sovereignty, i.e they have their own constitution, but they remain now in russia, actually, why didn't they break out, and can these sleeping regimes take over? they can, of course, because we had such a dormant regime in our country, in spite of everything, with this, but we pulled it out in 1991. it was a bit of a bad status. ukraine had not only a constitution and a criminal code. each republic of the ssr had its own almost identical to the other, but its own criminal code, there, laws, constitutions, had a place in the parliament, the un, but still we were fully part of empire, but we were able, when

the circumstances arose, to take advantage of this and leave, for one reason or another, for various reasons, we can talk about external influence, about the pressure of the west, which at that time did not want the ultimate disintegration of russia. and disarmament of nuclear weapons, was supported by the yeltsin regime, but they could not then, and the cooling went and went again, the construction of the vertical and now this vertical exists again, but under the bottom of that vertical there remains the will even of those puppet regimes, they still have a certain national soil and all the same at under favorable circumstances, they can do a lot on the basis of this, but there must be circumstances that must be approached and there must be a sufficient level of destabilization from the middle, but for me, how can i approach this in only one way, by asking a clear and unambiguous question , who are the russians, do they have a republic in the russian federation? and where, oh where, let’s remember budanov’s map , everyone saw it, which was then sold at auction,

and where this could be the russian republic, and this is an open question that will not be answered answers, because in fact, the identity of russians is not grounded in ethnicity, nor in real history, nor in any other things, i will give only a few facts about russians, just so that we can now think about who they are, they do not have even poor countries, mordovia has, so-called, karelias, and the russians, where is their statehood, but there are no statehoods, that is, the borders are defined in which ones are national, and who are the russians, the russians are , for example, from the point of view of music, pentatonic, ugh, you know that, you're on the black keys you will go to... type, this is a national melos, russian, yes, it is identical with chinese, with japanese and very different from ukrainian cuisine, what do you know about russian cuisine, well, these are chinese dumplings, well, you can say, from murski

pelmeni, then pelnian, abalone, in addition, there is an absolute absence of fried food in national cuisine, national or russian cuisine, we love fried food very much, and we even stew a lot of what we fry, but we even have pigment skin, our skin pigmentation is different from that of russians , lighter, they don't eat fried food, we laugh at theirs shchey, but they don’t do frying, so it’s not tasty to us, and in general, this cuisine is like that, their relationship with alcohol, which is specific, specific, yes, if we are talking about masquerade, about fairy tales, about literature, about current cinematography, it is completely full of signals that tell russians about theirs, but i can correct here too, it is necessary to deconstruct that many of those fairy tales, they were fabricated there in the 19th century , even when they were written, they could not just record, even invent plots, but how do russian fairy tales begin great, stop, but how does a ukrainian fairy tale begin, and any other in a european , in a european indo-european language, well, if you were to say, how do you begin to tell a ukrainian fairy tale, once upon a time, once upon a time or once

upon a time, yes, they lived here a double word, it is lle-vel in the finnish language, it is simply completely transferred to the slavic language , or, for example, if we are talking about songs, well-known to everyone, the birch was standing, but what is not the russian song in opol, the birch was standing, luu-luu , i 'll go i'll break a white birch, why does he break a birch, what kind of load and what does he break, and it's in among the erzians, there is a preserved tradition, when a seven-year-old boy is initiated, he is sent outside the village, he finds a small beriska, breaks it, the girls tie it with ribbons, he goes with little boriska, this boy, and they sing in the arzian language , in opole there was a birch in the written language, well, i apologize, so imagine seven years of the initiation rite, reza is the sacred kelu, the sacred plant of erzyan, it is in the pantheon of russian culture, and

there are a million such examples, even pushkin, although he ethnically, there is nothing finnish in it, that is, russian, yes, or lermontav is there, but these people, they still carry these signals about the finno-hungarian origin of the russians themselves, that is , people who have, do not have states, which are now officially according to the census somewhere around 80 million, and who are actually fighting on our territory right now, that is, we have to talk about the identity of the core of the russian empire , the moscow empire, and this is russian, how to understand and how to build a humanitarian policy in relation to this, strange cake, that is russian , yes, here is already a challenge for us, i i agree with the importance of this topic, because as much as i talked about colonization, that everything was in the center there, tula, moscow, production, for that there is the same core, the so-called russian ones, and that same core, central russia, the voluga region. there is lower novgorod, thanks to the fact that the bolsheviks retained control over it, er, the space from moscow to st. petersburg in the 18th

year, but they had the most er industry there, due to that they were able to have the greatest density of railways, railways, they were able to the cost of this is to win that war for the restoration of the empire, and now the same, if this space is not at least minimally defragmented from below, we will not piss. further to this, it is possible to prevent, we can fragment israel, but where are the children of jews, we will defragment moscow itself , where are the aunts of muscovites, i would like to, but this is a very difficult question, as they say, so here he tells us to work in parallel, it seems to me that with start with the ukrainians, see that there are actually finns there, but in fact, those who live in kursk, in bilgord, in ronesha, in fact, the slavs and those close to uskala wanted to do with us, to collapse us on the edges , bessarabia, bulgarian, ruthenian transcarpathia, crimea were so

collapsed, like so far yes, they even invented a polish identity, but it didn't work, but the core that you are from you will do with the core, well, about defragmentation, which is very much feared in the western world, the defragmentation of russia, we have a quote from henry kissinger, the former secretary of state of the united states of america, let's see, the disintegration of russia or its destruction. its ability to conduct strategic policy can transform its territory, which covers 11 time zones is a controversial vacuum. all of these dangers will be exacerbated by the presence of thousands of nuclear weapons. well, at such moments , i remember the speech of george bush the elder, the one that went down in history as a chikin, when he came to kyiv before the declaration of our independence, he convinced kyiv not to do this precisely because of nuclear weapons. the collapse of the ussr was actually bloodless, but why, having such an example, western politicians are not preparing for the peaceful disintegration of that moscow, by the way, first of all,

you said correctly, almost immodestly, because even then wars were going on in abkhazia, karabakh, transnistria went to tajikistan, so we, just muscovites, at that time from the territory of the core of the zr, seemed to have taken it, these conflicts, returned two years later in ishkeria, in the caucasus, but... and the question is different, unfortunately, it shows us such attitudes of kissinger, it is essentially that the so-called deep state, the depth of the state, says that their vision has not changed, it is necessary to have a non-recognition of nuclear weapons, a balance against china, against other threats, a convenient, if anything, partner, because on the one hand, russia is so bad, an enemy of humanity, with with which you can consolidate the property of society, to fight against which, but which is very weak, it is weaker than china itself, eh, so it is difficult to work with it, and this shows that there will be a gap of time to collapse the empire to the end, very

little, because 91 the collapse of the republics will go, already by 1992 they are going there, russia is starting to spread to the republics , but economic aid is coming, support is coming, consulting with washington to yeltsin and they are helping yeltsin to somehow preserve all this, they basically pleased moscow, but in fact america knows very well, how to take nuclear weapons, ukraine was a nuclear country, they took it away, great, belarus was, it was taken away, so will muscovy be taken away, kazakhstan was taken away, so, in principle, i think that this is a far-fetched story about the spread of nuclear weapons, in general, we are ukraine, the war, the ukrainian-moscow war solved many such long-standing problems that no one dared to approach them, now he is telling biden that brazil, india, and a number of other countries can get an additional veto in the un, and this is a hint of what can be and

revise the status of the owners of nuclear weapons, to replace, for example, the same muscovy, in this situation, what should be our actions , should we, for example, now encroach on the green wedge, on the kuban, on starodubshchyna, which you already mentioned, of course, absolutely, these things we need to speak up, because they are not from our selfishness, but this is the persistence of injustices of the 20th century, and if we talk even about the structure of the territory, if you have already said, mentioned the magical starodubshchyna, then this is the territory of cities with magdeburg law, in moscow there has never been magdeburia, it was not the same self-governments, these things must be said in the context of the real disintegration of the space of the russian federation, and i repeat that the contours of the republics that exist today, which were defined by the revolution of the 17th year 100 years ago, are on the same level, they exist today, and this is a signpost for arrangement of this space is, in principle, the problem

of the number of, but again, colonial ukrainian territories, it is gray and green. the wedge is, in fact, ukrainian new zealand and australia, but the third point is, i will repeat it again, the core of the moscow nation, we have to offer some positive way for them so that this endless chain of crimes committed by the moscow state in the name of its leadership would stop and they could somehow be integrated into the western world. we should start, i generally support emotions... emotionally, i support rossislav, but in fact a political scientist will reason from the possibilities that are available, these are ours, of course, ukrainians also live in the kuban, in the starrod oblast, but of course we have to think about the fact that the transitional moment, they should be offered to talk more about their own separation, too, the opportunity to create a kuban identity, a kuban republic there, a kuban state,

as well as in the lands of other cossacks. and to offer the russians, starting from ingria, northern russia is the pomerania, and for moscow itself from the core of the russians, to start with the fact that they really become a real federation, but it seems to me, you know, the classic terminator movie, you, if even this humanoid of moscow, you will scatter it into pieces, it will be assembled as if russia is called even ryazan or some marshansk, so only a new identity, only a denial... of the correctness of the ethnonym russian as such, replacing it with finnish identities, if it is correct to work with them humanitarianly, if we fill it with modern meanings, we can talk about the fact that the border will not be ingria, it is not known with what, but ingria from fepslandia, vepslandia from myriania, myriania from mishcheria, mishcheria from kuban, you can name it like that, it is very important, we have to push, even if in the worst case scenario, if the west pushes for the preservation of russia in the current

borders, well, in 1991. and converting to a real federation, democratization, it is necessary to ensure that it is not a russian federation, but rather a eurasian federation , well, at least, well, it is political, the topic is the topic of the name, it turns out to be very large and very complex, and a separate paragraph should be devoted to this, i thank you for this paragraph, yuriy oliynyk, rostyslav martynyuk, thank you, subscribe, be sure to comment and like so you can see our next issues, and see you soon. the only main thing on the air is the we ukraine channel and lyudmila dobrovolska and ihor pupko are with you.

now we will summarize this saturday, and we plan to talk about this. the enemy is attacking almost along the entire front line. how the armed forces hold the defense near avdiivka and in the kupyansk-lymansk direction. will blackout be 2-0, or will the russians catch a lick again. partners will provide us with additional power supplies, and the ukrainians themselves are already heating up generators and taking out power banks. they know every path in their cities and villages and make the ground burn under their feet. occupiers and traitors. we talked with a female partisan from an occupied city in the south of ukraine. the occupiers move wide front to avdiivka. about 2,000 of their soldiers, dozens of armored vehicles and aviation were used to attack it. they attack from the sortie, rzvv, drive in tanks,