[000:00:00;00] in the 15th year, unfortunately, it was artificially slowed down , and unfortunately the office of the president was involved in this, because the first deputy head of the office of the president, the previous one, he was just such a faithful parishioner of the lavra, and we have many facts when such a transition was blocked , and one of the arguments, by the way, which the servants and opzzh talk about all the time , is that this should be a natural process, here people should decide for themselves how to transition to the orthodox church of ukraine, we should not interfere in this, but the truth is needed here , if every temple will hang an honest one sign that the priest of this church belongs to the moscow church, people themselves will really be very active in making decisions about the transition to the orthodox church of ukraine, and therefore i want to emphasize once again that our desire, i would like to thank mrs. yuli here, she is extremely active in her work together with mykola knyazhytskyi, with

other... colleagues in the parliament is conducting to solve this issue of national security, our desire to push this story is based precisely on the non-implementation of the legislation of ukraine, the non-implementation of the decision of the constitutional court regarding the honest name of the moscow church, and if there is no honest name, if these people are masking themselves and are really engaged in other issues, we should adopt laws that will help both the security service of ukraine and the ukrainian courts to make fair decisions regarding helping ukraine and protecting our ideological the space that today, well, is actually given over there to the fsb structure, absolutely, thank you very much, iryna gerashchenko - people's deputy of ukraine, yulia klymenko, people's deputy of ukraine, you see, gender, we are trying to balance here and so

in this way we also balance, well, next will be a film, not a film, it will be a plot, this is part of a film that i shot, this name was heard many times, mykola knyazhytskyi, people's detat of ukraine, a film about the need to ban the russian church in ukraine, and this film was presented on the viya kakarpattia forum, you know about this forum from what we reported to you on espresso tv, the film is an illustration of a larger, more dangerous story about how the russian orthodox church evolved from the agitators of the russian world, of the world, a measure of just actual terrorists, and i would think about this, you know, before you see this plot, i thought about what i sometimes say, priests of the russian orthodox church, and then i think, well, priests from the word sacred , when i think about the fact that all 10 commandments the russian orthodox church plunders and simply rapes the 10 christian commandments, then these are definitely not

priests, definitely not the priesthood, now watch the plot, it will last 14 minutes, make a decision to hold a special military operation is skipped. that's it for now the russian world feels so free in ukraine and as long as the russian church continues to obey in this sanctioned gondyaev uses ukrainian shrines, putin will always have the illusion that he is still waiting in kyiv, and therefore from putin's point of view the war must be continued, but is this an illusion? i will tell you several stories that will help you understand this. blitzkrieg tactics planned by the russian general staff predicted that the army would be the aggressor already on

thursday evening, february 24. near the kyiv sign, a sharp blow almost hit the target, but the occupiers went to the suburbs of kyiv: gostomel, irpin, bucha and borodyanka. blitzkrieg failed, the russian army was tied up in battles. the invaders drove their people out of the civilian population. mass executions, arrests, inhumane tortures became the true handwriting of the russian world. borodyanka was under occupation for 38 days, foreign delegations still come here, and not for political tourism. no photos or videos. do not convey the scale of the disaster, it can be felt only here, in the town, which the aggressor turned into solid ruins and pain, destroyed houses, children's playgrounds, kindergartens and parks, a kindergarten, the house was destroyed, the ego is gone, the shot shevchenko in the center, now recognized all over the world, this monument became the bull of ukrainian insubordination, even in those terrible times of mass murders, ukrainians could not be intimidated, volunteers broke through through

the occupiers' checkpoints, they carried the most necessary food and medicine. tetyana zarytska, svitlana fedorova and roman ganaba were one of these groups. march 29, it was already our fourth trip. we were able to pass. bearded man, we were stopped twice, and when we returned, we it turns out, we see in front of us russian equipment, a multi-personnel crew, dogs, we were taken out like this, passports were collected, and then they say, get in the car, go after an armored personnel carrier, if any car leaves the convoy, the car will be shot by an armored personnel carrier, and we did not know where , where they were taking us, and they drove us to the church, cars lined us up under the fence of the church, supported them with equipment, and at that moment father viktor came out of the church with some man, well, not in a typical uniform, well, i understand that these are special services , and he told us

that we were detained, that it would be translated about us a special inspection, it will take about a day or two, at this point the father said, accommodate people, the church has become a place where the village people turn to for help, the abbot, father victor helps, takes the parishioners to the hospital, gives out food and warm clothes. there are snipers on the perimeter and god forbid someone from this column disappears, there will be trouble for everyone, unbelieving people , have heard, heard how our ukrainian soldiers are greeted by hitler, this is normal, a person who has a negative attitude towards the russian occupiers will not go with them under the pen, i i saw him walking with the occupier under his arm, i will tell you this, if the troops had come here in 16, you would have been happy. we had to somehow inform our relatives that we are alive, i found such a note, yes, i wrote on one side that we are alive, everything is fine with us, father viktor passed this note and said that it

can be handed over, that is, only from his let me, well yes, if the father was a victim, he would say, let's scream everything, scream everything, wherever you are, what you, so that yours don't worry, i have an opportunity, i'll pass it on, no, we were allowed to write 10. words, there was even such a thing that i said, let us go, he, you will be shot , liars, what is a lie, there is no one here , they were simply saved, they were simply brought here in order to save them, you understand, so that they are not were fired upon, and now they are pointing the finger at the batyuzhka, and they were walking, cleaning beehives, reading books, drinking whiskey, kotsap, yes, they exchanged kotsap for cigarettes, so that they would later... give evidence that yes, here we are they really saved lives here, well, such a priest, well done, because in 16 years it was necessary support yanukovych, but never, then 14 he 100% believed, giving such frank interviews, that

russia is here forever, and a month passes here, but russia is not forever, the moscow church scolds us, they spoke against us all the time and talked about that , что мы москолы, it's just according to our canon... we church the moscow patriarch, this church, you don't perceive it as a church, because you were kept here by force, i tell you seriously, i won't go, i don't, no, i i won't go there in fact, the personal history of viktor telko and the russian church in borodyanka is just that an illustration of a much bigger and more dangerous story, how in 30 years the russian orthodox church in ukraine has evolved from agitators of the russian peace to terrorists , publicly campaigned for yanukovych, he always supported the parties of the regions and russia, we are brothers and sisters and should not oppose them, but accept them with love. god commands , he loves not only friends, and therefore it was a kind of psychological preparation of ukrainians

for the fact that russian peace will soon come and it must be accepted, as he said in one from an interview with a russian channel, with flowers. the dramatic history of the occupation of borodyanka, the collaboration of the moscow government prompted the congregation of the archstrategist michael's church to switch to the ocu. who is for, who is against? but here a new story began. away with the moscow priest, look, the provocateurs of moscow have come here now and are beating. viktor talko registered a limited liability company called the center of spiritual development, and he issued land and a temple for it. goodbye. what is going on here? this lady, who introduced herself as a lawyer of a newly registered company, is trying to disrupt filming of the prison church. i'm a lawyer, we don't have the right to come in here, no, come in, but you didn't come in, you're talking, you're filming, with whom, with your client, you're talking, well, i don't know, you

say that a lawyer, if you're a lawyer, you can make a claim to you if you have clients, if you don't have a client, then why are you asking us what we are, you speak for one client, and i represent the community, in fact, the community has already moved to ocu. the community did not authorize it, it was authorized by the society, the society that happened to the owner of the temple is simply not possible, you have to be silly, you see, the lawyer represents the interest of a russian priest who, despite the initiated criminal proceedings, is trying to keep the land and property, not his own, of the community that built this temple, in fact, this is the behavior of an ordinary raider, you are imposters who disguise themselves as journalists , but this is a common tactic, moscow is trying to maintain control over its property in ukraine, over its checkpoints, they are going to return here, few people talk about it out loud, but the russian orthodox church in ukraine is a huge landowner, the number of real estate can be envied by the richest

people. today i will tell you a very interesting story about the richest public organization in ukraine. this public organization participates in the war against our state, supports russian aggression , sanctions have been imposed on its leader, but only here in kyiv it owns 1,520 hectares of land, in fact, it uses much more land, because there are private lands, there are utilities, which are given to her for use and no one... controls it, what kind of organization is it, it is called the russian orthodox church, it operates not only here in kyiv, but throughout ukraine , and in this film we will tell you the story of this organization and those who do not want to ban it, this problem that threatens ukrainian statehood must be solved systematically, not sanctions of the national security council or court verdicts, and the decision of the ukrainian parliament. that is why i insist on the adoption of a special law. it should not put an end to a long dramatic story. which began back in

1992, when moscow organized a coup and a split in ukrainian orthodoxy and made him with his weapon. in total, the verkhovna rada registered 11 draft laws banning or restricting the activities of the uocp, but the main ones are two: 82:21 - authored by mykola knyazhytskyi, 83-71 - authored by the cabinet of ministers. law project 82:21 was also supported by deputies from european solidarity, voice, servant of the people, group for the future and outside... the committee on humanitarian and information policy recommended it for consideration in the session hall. the essence of my draft law is that the activities of the russian orthodox church in ukraine are prohibited, so the law ceases its influence of russia and ruska mir, because it is a direct duty of the state, and it is already a direct duty of the government, the office of the president and the verkhovna rada to fulfill their constitutional duties to ensure the national security of a warring country. it should stop playing the fool on the part of the structures of the roc from ours. by the state and society

, they say, the ukrainian orthodox church distanced itself from moscow, because in fact the religious organization, which is headed by the russian citizen orist berezovsky, aka metropolitan onufriy, will in the future be subordinate to patriarch kirill and moscow. the government cannot transfer to its citizens direct duties. it is the government that must ensure compliance with law and order. inactivity of the authorities cannot provoke conflicts. the authorities have no right to cover the activities of the structures of the aggressor state. on our territory, in ukraine, freedom of conscience reigns, so the state has no right to interfere in what people believe in, or do not believe at all, someone wants to believe in saint onuphrius, or not so saint onuphrius, if they want, let them believe. the tomos on the autocephaly of the orthodox church of ukraine was received by the church itself, as well as by the ukrainian state. this is one of the of the fundamental acts of ukrainian statehood, the foundation of our spiritual independence. it is about her that president volodymyr zelensky talks so passionately. the advice is that these words become deeds, because the decision to ban the activities of the russian orthodox church in ukraine

depends exclusively on him. draft law 82.21 corresponds to the decisions of the constitutional court of ukraine and the supreme court of ukraine. it is exclusively consistent with european legislation in the field of freedom of conscience, judicial practice and recommendations of the european court of human rights. and therefore any citizen who challenges the provisions of our bill, which will become law, will be forced to answer questions first. about how the activity of the russian orthodox church in ukraine serves the national interests of ukraine, defends the ukrainian democratic society against russian aggression, the goal of which is the destruction of the state and the genocide of the nation. my bill is based on the fact that there is already an autocephalous orthodox church in ukraine. therefore , any religious organization can use the word orthodox in its name, only if it subordinated to the orthodox church of ukraine. after all, patriarchal and synodal tomos.

was given not only to an individual church , but also to the entire state, because the state is also concerned about receiving it, that is why the verkhovna rada appealed, that is why the government and the president dealt with this issue, it is a political and legal document, not only a religious one, so i propose to include the tomos in our legislation as an act of state creation. all other denominations will continue to operate in ukraine, but only one local church can use the word orthodox in its name. in this way, the russian orthodox church in ukraine will not be able to do more to manipulate the charter and call itself the ukrainian orthodox church. any ties between ukrainian religious communities and the russian orthodox church should be monitored. the procedure will be established by the cabinet of ministers. and the most important thing: draft law 82.21 fully complies with european legislation in the field of reporting and freedom of conscience, in the field of national security protection and the practice of the european court of human rights. that is why it is not about advantages for any church, nor about restrictions for another, nor about banning someone, nor about oppression of religion, language exclusively about the inadmissibility of the activity in

ukraine of an organization that supports and participates in armed aggression against ukraine, and in matters of national security, europe without compromise. the situation is paradoxical: despite the tens of thousands of victims of the daily shelling of our peaceful towns and villages, the drama of millions of internally displaced persons and foreign refugees, the spirit of ruskavamir does not fade from the powerful offices of the hrushevsky bank. supporters and agents of the russian world further hope that they will be able to wait and wait for better times for themselves, their hope, activity or inaction is a continuation of the war. it is our duty to stop it. we must mobilize, act clearly and persistently in achieving the goal. prohibition of the activities of the russian orthodox church on ukrainian soil. presidents, employees of his office should hear that ukrainians have run out of patience. we showed it in our movie. we need to put pressure on the government so that victory and peace come as soon as possible. and we will do it. glory

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under the influence of palestinian, palestinian bullets and shells, or is it somewhere further north? i congratulate you, i congratulate you. we are in the north, this is the upper galilee, this is such a holy place - a place where holy cities are located such as chat , tiberias, the sea of ​​tiberias, we are here closer to this region, and it is closer to the north, to the border with lebanon, and already some cities in the north received a warning that it was necessary already a little bit, either evacuate or equip your special rooms or bomb shelters very well, so we are closer to midnight and now we are also being shelled a little, about an hour before that there was a message that

shlomiya is such a city, there is naaria, it is closer already all the way to the lebanese border, and several rockets were fired from the lebanese border, okay, now, now the question, ms. svitlana, next, the wall street journal wrote, the hamas attack ended the relationship. netanyahu and putin. as much as we can believe in it, because we, the ukrainians, who are here live, for us, putin is a very important component of our life, he bombards us every time. please tell me how true this is? we can say a lot here, but we don't really know it, because we don't go into the offices. to god, to that comrade you just mentioned, and to netanyahu, too, now

the last, the new narrow cabinet of israel is sitting these minutes, what they will decide and how it will be, i do not know, but the fact that some relations between israel and russia, broke down, this is one hundred percent, because if, look, i live in israel very many years, and lived through more than one... more than one conflict, and i know how it started and how quickly it all ended, this time it was very difficult, very unexpected, for israel, and what we saw, how did the terrorists come and what did they do, israel now has its own camp, its melitopol, and there is certainly a very, very trail that leads, well , i don't want to say that directly to... the kremlin, but somewhere around the kremlin it follows this path and conducts its work from there, it is absolutely obvious,

because this has not yet happened in israel, because of what the relations between israel and russia will be now, between netanyahu and putin , it is difficult to say, time will tell, we are waiting literally hour by hour, i think that israel's ground operation in the gaza sector will begin. and then it will be possible to put some points and talk further, which we have, ms. svetlana, but in principle, look, it is simply obvious that politics, in this case , the politics of the people, i.e. the party that mr. netanyahu leads, and the politics of such, well, me i would not say sympathizers, but moderate politicians in israel who are moderate treated putin, the kremlin, it was destroyed by this attack by khamaz, or what is the fate of these parties in general, if

they did not say that the main problem, well, not the main one, maybe one of the main world problems is the presence of putin, what will happen to such people, to such politicians, for example in israel, it is very difficult to say, look, our parties cannot agree among themselves on the problems that exist in israel, in our country. they have to be solved, and by the way, by the way, this is what started 7 october, it was so unexpected, it was so unexpected, it was so cruel, i don't know, now everyone is talking, although they gave, as they say, a chance to our government, we will talk about you after the war, after all this is over , but where was the intelligence, where was the army, how could it happen that so many ... terrorists broke through that unfortunate fence, entered almost 2000 terrorists entered the territory of israel early on saturday morning and

did what they did, i will not repeat myself due to the fact that the whole world already knows about it, of course, as you can say here, parties, of course, some came without any, without any demands for themselves and joined this party. of national unity, some of the whole cabinet, other parties, i don't know, we have to talk with the party members, we have to see, but the fact that there will no longer be what was before this war, and israel has officially recognized that this is a war, and that this is one hundred percent, and how they will look at putin and russia now, i think that there will be a lot, a lot of re-educated, re... translated, they will talk, maybe,

maybe they will meet, but what, what was before, and what will happen after the war will no longer happen, it will be completely different from... both in the parties, and yes, by the way, in israel itself, look, now this is a very interesting question, we started with this , and i would ask you to focus again on the north of israel, the audience and the south of lebanon, that is where hezbollah is located, hezbollah is constantly, it is such a pro-iranian military organization, in fact it is much stronger. than hamas in the gaza strip, all the scouts, all we know is that hazbala is really an army, if hamas is such guerillas, quasi partisans, ha tobola are the troops, local newspapers write, what local people say, if you are nearby, you are under attack, how likely is hezbollah to be involved

in this attack, and how likely is it that hezbollah is then supported by iran, iran is constantly threatening , and i have the impression that not everyone, no, not everyone believes so, all the threats to iran , well, because there are two american aircraft carriers there, in short, there is something to answer for, there is a strong coalition around israel, and this should show for now iran, don't mess with these games, but this one, this chain ezbola iran, it is felt, people talking on the street, what the press is writing, what the local radio is saying, please ms. svitlana, you know what they say, what the local people say, i tell you i can say now, not as a journalist, but as just a resident of israel, who has children, who has grandchildren who are now at war, a grandson in the north, a reservist granddaughter in the south, because of that i will tell you that we are all

praying for our soldiers, such a unity of our people, which has become around the army, you can't even imagine, mr. mykola, what they are doing ordinary people, average for our soldiers, they already say, we already have everything, we already have it , we have food, we have clothes, we have everything, and when, but we are mothers, we grandmas, we can't do that, we are all for them, for them, for them, volunteers work a lot, by the way, and there is such an organization as israeli friends of ukraine, they support ukraine a lot, and now... they work as volunteers for the army, the defense of israel. it's a little bit closer to midnight now, so as you said, it's certainly a very, very difficult question that you've asked me, but everybody know that hezbollah is really a much stronger organization than hamas, it has weapons, it has missiles, the range of which is much greater than the homemade ones that are produced in

the territory, the gas sector, and therefore it is very difficult, that's it. the missiles that flew, they are already flying, flying 40-50 km from the border, but our troops are standing there, you see, a little, the north in how can you say, in such a situation , we won a little from what started in the middle of the day, we have already concentrated, we have already thought about the north, we have already thought about what to do, what to do which troops should be sent, which artillery should be sent, the artillery is working very well, the tank troops, the aviation is working very well, which is why they actually postponed the ground operation in the gas sector for several days, because it suddenly rained in israel, such clouds covered the whole of israel, and uh, intelligence, which does this from the air, decided that it wouldn't be very good, because they might

miss something somewhere, and it would cost someone's life, because of that on... it's a little bit, a little bit already, as they say, prepared for the fact that a massive mass shelling may begin here, but israel is ready to retaliate, it is clear, look, a few days ago , and the israeli military forces carried out, well, a bomb attack, so you can say, bombed the aleppo airport in syria as well, and this was on the eve of the minister's visit to syria of foreign affairs of iraq, so that of iran, i am interrupting, so you see here, and the intelligence worked, and everything worked for us, and i think that here our people already know what and how to do, hezbollah, of course, a strong organization, is not here what can i say, but we are also strong, you know, here i am

i remembered, once upon a time, goldamey said how she was asked what the situation was, that's all we have, it