[000:00:00;00] также их ally, azerbaijan and turkey will pay very dearly for the continuation, tigran smilyan, head of the european party in armenia, thank you very much, it's just that we have news coming, if i don't tell eva melnyk with the news now, she will fire me from my job, and i like working at espresso, so the floor is given to anna evi melnyk. thank you for your work, good luck. evening, the news team will still work,

we will tell our viewers about the most important thing for the moment, i will start with this: three detonations on explosive objects in a day, on in the mykolaiv oblast, two children were blown up by a mine, they were playing in a field outside a village in the bashtan district. a 14-year-old boy died, his 12-year-old friend was injured. previously , active military operations were conducted on this territory, the ministry of internal affairs reported in the kharkiv region, in the village of kamianka. a 14-year-old boy blew himself up on an explosive device. he is in the hospital, two more people were blown up by an explosive device. in chernihiv oblast, they went to the forest on the territory of the kina community of podrov. one man died, another was injured on the spot explosives are working. and then about what is happening in the kherson region. the russians covered the golden beam with fire in the kherson region , about 28 arrivals were recorded. enemy shells hit a private house and farm buildings. the kindergarten was damaged, during the day

the occupiers shelled the center of kherson. the city was cut off, as a result of another flyover, damage to the power line, after the morning attacks, the power supply was restored, but repair work is still ongoing - said the head of the region oleksandr prokudin. in the morning, the russians fired kherson region from aviation, 11 guided air bombs were released in bereslav district, two were launched in the suburbs of kherson. more than 1,600 people remain in avdiivka in donetsk region, despite the large-scale enemy offensive and round-the-clock shelling. an evacuation was planned for today, but it is not yet known whether it was managed, - noted the head of the city military administration vitaliy barabash. yesterday we managed to get two people out. during the week , 9 residents were evacuated. the russians are shelling the city around the clock, but the intensity

has decreased. the enemy spends 15% less assault actions, barabash noted. the russians are trying to completely destroy the fire. the ministry of defense adopted new models of military equipment, a helicopter and a motorcycle. the german-made boo-105 multipurpose helicopter is used for surveillance. passengers and cargo can also be transported on its side. the light multi-purpose helicopter was developed in 100 by the eurocopter company, its first customer was bundwer. the ktm-450 high-speed motorcycle allows you to transport servicemen and light weapons on cross country. our defenders have more iron birds. 500 attack drones from operation unity are already in ukraine, they

were acquired thanks to nato, said deputy prime minister for innovation mykhailo fedorov. the drones were purchased thanks to your donations to the collection uniighted 24. bring back the living and monobank. the birdhouse will be supplemented with ammunition and sent to the front. we expect the remaining 5,000 drones in the near future. at least five anti-tank guided missiles fired at an israeli city and military positions on the border with lebanon, the terrorist group hezbollah. in the first attack in the morning, one civilian was killed and three others were injured when a rocket hit a construction site in the northern settlement of shtula. the israel defense forces said it fired at sources of rocket fire from artillery and struck targets belonging to hezbollah. zderot

has become... the israeli city that will be completely evacuated before the idf ground operation in gaza, the times of israel reports, since october 7 the city has suffered 70 five direct missile hits. the city hall said that approximately 2/3 of the city's 30,000 residents have already been evacuated, and most of the remaining citizens will soon leave. about 10% remain in the city for various reasons. refugees are accommodated in hotels in tel aviv, jerusalem and eilat. israeli prime minister binaymin netanyahu held the first meeting of the cabinet of ministers of emergency after the terrorist attack. attacks on october 7, opposition parties agreed to form an expanded government of national unity. the meeting was held at the military headquarters in tel aviv. early ministers paid tribute to those who died as a result of terrorist attacks. netanyahu said that the main

task of israel will be the complete destruction of hamas. i saw our wonderful soldiers who are now on the front lines. they know that the whole nation is behind them. they understand the enormity of the task, they are ready to act at any moment to destroy the bloody monsters that have risen against us to kill us, hamas thought they would destroy us, we will destroy hamas. parliamentary elections are held in poland, the citizens of the country have to elect 460 deputies to the diet and 100 senators. the victory is predicted by yaroslav kaczyński's law and justice party, which is the current president andrzej duda , their main opponent is the centrist civil coalition , headed by ex-prime minister and former head of the european council donald tusk, however, no political force will form the government, so it has to

look accomplices political scientists consider the worst option for ukraine to be a coalition of law and justice with the far-right federation. president of azerbaijan ilham aliyev raised the country's flag in the main city of nagirny karabakh khankendi. aliyev also visited other settlements in the liberated region, which until recently were under the control of the nagorno-karabakh republic, which was supported by yarvan. i would like to add that from january 1, 2024 , the nkr will cease to exist; after 32 years, azerbaijan regained the region. the last evening of the viakarpattia intellectual and artistic forum. intellectuals reflected on the long-term study of ukrainian identity and the inevitability of war. meanwhile , they got acquainted with the works of ukrainian

artists. more details about the final day in our correspondent natalya staropravo will tell about karpati. natalya, good evening, and tell me and our viewers what happened on the sidelines of the forum and who won the stanislav vincens award. greetings to annueva, greetings to our viewers, the official part of the intellectual and artistic forum via carpathia has already ended, we see that it really has come to an end, because recently we learned the name of the winner of the stanislav vincents award, and he was a public figure, a ukrainian figure and a figure of the ukrainian jewish movement, today

ukrainians know for themselves what the destruction of the people and solidarity with the jewish, israeli people is, and i will note that yosel , he also distinguished himself by his pro-ukrainian position, and is a dissident, and was arrested and persecuted by the soviet union, and at the beginning of the full-scale war, he helped to all the people who suffered from russian aggression, during these three days of the forum we talked about how important it is to preserve our cultural heritage, although we have not been to the tsar of the carpathians, we talked about the hutsul people nearby in ivano-frankivsk heritage, and against this background it is important to note that ukraine is a cultural country, each region is important, each is rich in its own history and how important it is to know one's native ukrainian history, because this distinguishes us from others, and this against the background of the russian enemy makes us

unique, because ukraine is truly a nation of winners, we talked with intellectuals, artists, political figures, who all spoke about how important it is... to really know your history, mentioned the mistakes that ukrainians made, even today at the presentation the book of military serviceman yury godimenko, he himself already noted that we should not be afraid of the mistakes we make, we should be afraid of not drawing conclusions after these mistakes, and indeed, he is right, because we should not avoid any conflicts and not avoid he, however, it is important to fight and know your past in order to build the future, i pass on the word of the studio, thank you for your work, thank you for the information, it was natalya starapravo, correspondent of espresso and from the viyakarpatiya forum about the last evening of this

event and about the vincent prize. that's how he was this day as presented by the news team. i'll see you tomorrow, i'll be waiting for you in this studio at 2 p.m., have a quiet evening and see you soon. 10 years ago, the decade of the maidan, the second maidan, maybe the third maidan for some, marked the beginning of a new, fundamentally new cycle that we are all experiencing now, and this cycle, i have such a fear, will not end so easily and will not end without major changes , and here changes are not ukrainian, but also changes at the level

of everything. the continent, and perhaps the whole world, oh, well, but our place, although it is beating in that process, is not only to act correctly, but also to reflect correctly, and accordingly , today our guests will do this great act, today kateryna kalytko, vitaly portnikov, yevhennia kuznitsova are working on the panel, i think , that the key story, well, the key thesis, is when what we call the maidan began, i.e. that is, a shift, a change in ukrainian society, which meant a big break with the russian empire, with the russian narrative, with inclusion in the russian space, cultural and civilizational, and in general, is it possible to consider the events of the maidan as the formation of a fundamentally new ukraine, the process that formally began in 1991, and perhaps it just...

materialized or manifested itself in 2014, and we are also experiencing parts of it now a large and difficult cycle. i think that each of the participants has his own vision and his own answers, and perhaps additional questions of a rhetorical plan, well, of course, we will start with vitaly portnikov, why me? well, that's the way it is, because yes, thank you for all of you came to listen to us at this important forum, important because i believe that now every event that is happening in ukraine, which shows that we are living, not surviving, under missile attacks and in front of drone strikes, this is evidence

that russia's plans to destroy ukrainian statehood and the ukrainian people cannot be implemented, i would still like to start this conversation about the 2013-2014 maidan with some statements about what happened in the 90s, as antsin said in his preface i am sincerely convinced, although it is not so... it is customary to say that we supporters of ukrainian independence in 1991 were in an absolute minority in our own country. of course, we can say that there were results of the referendum on december 1, 1991, which we completely managed, because there was an overwhelming majority of people, uh, for the independence of ukraine, but you have to remember that a few months before that... another one was held referendum for the preservation of the soviet union, where also

the vast majority of people, not in this region of ukraine, but in all others, except the western lands, were for the preservation of the soviet union. i remember my emotions at the first founding congress of the movement, but on the one hand i was happy to see people who had come to fight for the future of the country, for independence, on the other hand, it hurt me because i before that, i went to the congresses of the popular fronts of the baltic countries and saw the general popular support for what was happening in tallinn, at the first such congress, i was stunned by how the whole country was preparing... for the congress of the popular front of estonia , as the main event in the life of the estonian people i understood that this was a nationwide movement. in kyiv, at the first congress of the movement, we were in a real aquarium. i remember how i left the congress and did not take off the blue-yellow badge that i had on my

lapel, which was on the delegates and participants of the congress, and how they looked at me on the tram in kyivskiy. like some kind of monster that came out of nowhere, and it was scary because i didn't understand how that could be, and in any way, when i say that, i think you and i understand, one the matter is to declare independence and is quite another to fill it with real meaning, the meaning that is an important part of any state and national construction, and i have always had the absolute conviction that russia does not perceive our statehood as real, and that the more or less peaceful existence of the ukrainian

state will continue until the moment when our own attitude towards statehood, as a false one, coincides with the russian vision. because russia has always believed that the former soviet republics are just random temporary formations, that sooner or later they will become part of the russian world , that the main condition is that they do not run away , be in the cis, and then in the eurasian union, and somewhere else, and as soon as any of these countries began to move in the other side, it was immediately attacked, from the late 1980s to the early 1990s, provocations were arranged in latvia, lithuania and estonia, troops in tbilisi, vilnius, baku, riga, everywhere where it was possible to use force, inciting ethnic conflicts and territorial ones, which now before our eyes

continue to explode with new tragedies, as let's say in karabash, it all started under the soviet union. transnistrian conflict, abkhazia, south ossetia. we always thought that it did not concern us. in the end, as soon as ukraine started a clear movement to the side, back in 2004, at first they tried to talk to us in the language of special sabotage operations, already in 2014 they decided to talk in the language of real war, according to known recipes not invented by putin. first converts. country into a state of the disabled, and if it does not understand, we change the government, well, listen, what we saw in kyiv in february 2022, conditionally saying, azerbaijanis saw in the 90s, when the troops of field commander suret huseinov with russian weapons, stood

near the walls of baku, because there was an idea that it was necessary to change the government to one loyal to the russians, maybe moscow did not get everything it wanted there, but i mean, the recipe itself is the same, and as a result, we came to a big war, again, our problem is, i would say the state problem, that the majority of our population never believed in it, did not believe at all in the possibility of an attack russia on us, did not believe that as soon as we choose an independent path of development, then it will be... that we will be spoken to in the language of aggression and destruction, and it seems to me that people in the post-soviet space still do not believe in this, i have seen and already quoted the results of a sociological survey in kazakhstan, where 73% respondents do not believe that russia can attack kazakhstan, but i think that you now believe, you understand that everything is easy, you think

, kazakhstan - yes, kazakhstan, where we were not there, so in this sense, this is a real problem , and underestimation of this danger. i would say not only state underestimation, but the general national underestimation, which was expressed in the results of the presidential and parliamentary elections of 2019, finally showed itself. regarding the maidan itself and its results, to be concise, i think that a real event like the construction of a ukrainian political nation began on the maidan, which did not exist before the maidan of 2013-2014. i have always been interested in how a person... origin , will ukrainians manage to go beyond the framework of the ethnic project in which they were always received by the russian empire, that ukrainians are exclusively a nation, an ethnic nation and it has an absolutely clear border into which no one can cross, unlike russians, unlike poles,

unlike slovaks or czechs, anyone, and if someone crosses this border, then it is some kind of weirdo that he is there is doing among them, they will trample him now, so i would say that it was the maidan of 13-14 years that became such an annihilation, i am not the annihilation, the disappearance of this border, i always tell how i went to a concert, slavko vakarchuk was on the maidan hymn, he sang the hymn at the end, and i looked at my young people standing before me colleagues, and they, so hymns are sung and cry, and i suddenly thought about something that no ethnic ukrainian would think about, i thought that among this group of people there is not a single ethnic ukrainian, but there is none, and they are standing and cry, and this is the birth of a real ukraine, a political nation in which people recognize ukrainian civilizational, cultural, historical, linguistic values, do you understand? and it is such a nation that is the biggest threat to russia, especially when it started from the west and center and moved towards

the east and south. and i think that's all happened later and is happening today, it is the engraving and strengthening of this particular political nation. we have a political nation, the state also has only to protect and preserve it. thank you. thank you, there was another maidan, well, of course, we are not talking about the maidan, but there was another maidan in 2004-5, and i remember very well how the decision was made, then a delegation led by the president of poland kwasniewski arrived, and negotiations continued, and one of the delegates from the european union, we met with him. and

he warned, listen, you will be this night to disperse, there is already a decision about the use of force against the participants of the orange revolution at that time, well, i warned my people, those who were there for the lutheran, and none of them went, everyone started calling, the number of people only increased, this is one moment about how it works, how it works for the ukrainian people. the second moment is when we talk about russia's attempts, or the russian empire's attempts to influence this or that nation. always the most textbook or the best example was the example of the relations of the russian empire of the polish-lithuanian commonwealth. so in the middle of the 18th century, a few years before of what was called the first division of poland, regularly, through her ambassadors, catherine ii conveyed very specific demands, in particular the preservation of the so-called liberum veto, i.e. er, the possibility of any one member of the seimas to block a decision for a law of any importance, both in the house

of representatives of the us congress, and we also see this, that is, what happened, and maybe now is happening in our parliament, well what is happening now, i don't know, even that, because there are no live broadcasts, yes, here in the hall, people's deputy sofya fedina, i i think, in any case, she will be able to tell what is happening there, here is the key story: there were, i think, both under yushchenko, and under kuchma, and under yanukovych, these or other attempts by the russian empire to impose mechanisms or models , which would make impossible a real non-declarative movement in the direction of what is called the european or euro-atlantic community, maybe i am wrong , i want to believe, well, but it was too clearly manifested at the time in the middle of the century, a few years before the first division of things, the commonwealth, well and something called the maidan

what is called the revolution of dignity also had its manifestation in the polish cycle , in particular it is about the polish constitution and the essential limitations of the polish powerful, in the pubic, of course, oligarchy, aristocratic, yes, and also the russian empire introduced troops and was also in warsaw butch . that is, under the leadership of a russian field marshal, a criminal , in fact, a man with frankly perverted, genocidal tendencies, they drowned the polish suburbs, the warsaw suburbs of prague with blood, this is also a historical moment, and when we talk about buchu, i also understand that this is not a new story, and they may have really tried to intimidate and psychologically break the people in this way. well, we understand that it doesn't work that way,

but that doesn't make it any easier, kateryna kalytko. good day. also, thank you for the opportunity of this conversation, for me actually, when i saw the topic of the discussion, it was a shock that already 10 years have passed since the actual, 13-14 years of this milestone, when everything started, for me it is all very detailed, everything like yesterday, and actually one of the iconic moments for my identity, this was my third revolution, the first was ukraine without kuchma, the second was the orange revolution, and of course the revolution of dignity. due to my age, i did not catch these first significant efforts to build restored ukrainian independence in the early 90s, and in the 13th year i came with such a rather ironic skepticism, when student protests began, when yanukovych tried

to turn in the other direction from european integration, because well, at one time i saw what ukraine turned into without kuchma, there i still have a broken golden eagle pain, then a rib, when the weather changes. during the orange revolution , i also remember very well when i returned home from kyiv for the weekend to my parents in vinnytsia wearing orange paraphernalia, with a scarf and some bows on my sleeve, then people were aggressive on the streets. and my neighbors laughed at me, that is, here i pick up vitaly's opinion in this way that for society itself, ukrainian independence, democracy, statehood, that is horizontal, self-organization, the right to direct democracy, and the manifestation of popular discontent, let's say, let's call it that ,

pathetically, were something ridiculous and inappropriate and seemed like something that would not lead to any significant consequences, and also in the fall of the 13th year, when the student maidan first began, i looked at it already with the experience of the orange revolution and all our mistakes and setbacks after it, as another attempt by a handful of passionate people to change the world, the ukrainian world, by the russian agents, the levers of russian influence, the indoctrinated consciousness, the broadest masses of the people, and i thought that here we go again, again, it will end, to be honest, nothing, and on november 31 i was still in kyiv, then i

came to vinnytsia and in the morning read the news about the night of the beating, i was... very sorry and conscientious that i was not at the maidan that night, and what started to happen on the first of december really shocked me, because i saw that we we no longer allow ourselves to be manipulated, we do not allow, we do not want to allow, destroy ourselves, force ourselves, we do not allow ourselves to be humiliated and beaten. and it's not even because, as we said, a generation of parents came out because their children were beaten, it's just that in the end, we came out to protect the most massive, his right to vote is certain in the new ukrainian history. and from december 1

, 2013 onwards, there was a fundamental violation of some... rules, coexistence, in the urban space, in the democratic community, when in the city, which is a security territory , they try to physically destroy the citizens, citizens of ukraine , and in the end they physically destroy, and they do not stop, and they are ready to follow their idea to the end, whatever that end may be, it all sounds. somewhat with such a constricted throat, but none the less for me it was a very, very important experience, very formative, when i saw that this loneliness is emerging, a great loneliness, that we cease to be a bunch of possessors who move something somewhere, and usually crash against the wall of national misunderstanding, that is, we really become

a community , we are growing up as a community, we