[000:00:00;00] in crimes against peaceful ukrainians, general bodanov was asked about this in particular, he said that we do not need such a separate unit, because we are already successfully operating on the territory of another state, we will continue to kill the enemies of our state, wherever they are . in general, let's say, well, if we rely on the history of the special services there, again of the world, can we observe after the end of this war that those whom, for example, russia, if it remains in its current form, will not be there before the international tribunal, then what there courts, then they can face their punishment, for example, on the territory of russia, thanks to the actions of the ukrainian special services or forces friendly to them, let's say, if the special services do not want to admit their involvement. you know, in this regard, i support, if i were to lean towards the version of kirill oleksiiovych bodanov, that we don't need our mossad, because we have completely different realities,

completely different circumstances, and we by... sizes by methods country of struggle is completely different from israel. for example, here is the most significant operation to punish those involved in the destruction of the people of israel, this is an operation called the wrath of god in the 72nd year, it began and continued for another decade. it started because at the 1972 munich olympics , palestinian terrorists from the black september organization, which, by the way , is still not destroyed, captured 11 israeli athletes and later executed them. in response, the mossad launched an operation to search for terrorists, wherever they were, in whatever country they existed, and to completely eliminate those involved in this terrorist attack. and in contrast from ukraine, israel can afford it, they can easily approach, enter, or rather, the territory of the rest of the other countries there, without asking their permission and do justice in favor of the israeli people. but this leads to errors.

this leads to terrible consequences, because in 1973, there is a case called the lillehammer case, this is the mistaken killing of an arab waiter in norway, because the israeli special services accidentally mistook him for one of the terrorists involved in the attack on israeli athletes in in the 72nd year, sorry, this eventually led to the majority of the group of israeli special agents being arrested and if the convict was tied up... so was the murder, it led to a huge reputational damage in the history of the israeli secret services, now imagine what this could theoretically happen to ukraine. we, unlike the israelis, have an enemy that has nuclear weapons, which is considered the second army in the world, you understand, the risks are definitely very serious and we risk losing the support of our allies, of course, and we thank mr. fakhrudin for helping to understand such complex things. fokhrudin, sharafmal, to

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the bullfight, knives, guns, you fall, it puts you to sleep with a splinter, you stand further and follow the butts into the transferred beam, lying down. must destroy someone unequivocally, we will shoot down, well, there are no options here, a documentary project about people who save the country, a hero, on tuesday at 23:45 in the marathon the only news. volodymyr na pseudobulat, 32 years old, captain, commander of the sniper company of the 80th separate amphibious assault brigade, a historian by profession

, has been defending ukraine since 2014, went from a simple soldier to an officer of an elite sniper unit, took part in combat operations in all areas of the eastern front, under during street battles in bakhmut , volodymyr's unit destroyed a large number of invaders. for valor and heroism, bulat was awarded military command awards. currently , the volodymyr company continues to eliminate invaders in the bakhmut direction. i congratulate you, tell me a little about yourself, in fact, how you got into the army and about your military career. in the army since 2014. went from being a soldier to now being the commander of the sniper unit of the 80th separate amphibious assault brigade. before i joined the army, i

studied at the ivan franko university in in lviv, majoring in history, graduated in 2013, then joined the armed forces and signed a contract, and since then i have been in service continuously, for me the war began in the 13th year, already then i lost many comrades, many of my commanders that time, from which i took an example, and at the moment it is a matter of honor for me to prove theirs. unfinished business until the end. the war, for many ukrainians , began so suddenly that many were perplexed and could not recover, and you as a historian from the perspective of history, you expected

what can happen? yes, i told my subordinates about it and prepared for it in every possible way, because when i went to study in 2015, it was clear that it would not end. a conflict that, no conclusions, no logical conclusion then, and it was only a matter of time before it happened, so people, i think, just consoled themselves with the fact that it wouldn't happen, it wouldn't happen, although instead it had to to prepare for this war, there is no need to be indifferent and not to please ourselves with illusions that i donated there for the armed forces, i keep there the economic front, there is the cultural front or some other as it has become fashionable to say, you have to be honest with yourself, if you ask your children, dad, what you were doing when the russians came, you can answer, at least, i

did that- so and so, and made every effort to make this war end faster and with our victory, in which areas did you have to fight for all this time. for almost 10 years in the army, there is probably no direction where i did not take part in combat operations, but if we talk about the beginning, then it was events near the city of slovyansk, near the city of siversk, then i served as part of the 24th brigade, was a machine gunner, in a reconnaissance company, and met the war as a soldier, a contract worker, performing the tasks of escorting convoys, observing, detecting the enemy , judging by the population centers they occupied, the war then was a little different from what we see today,

you can say, it was a little less technological, for sure, please tell me, how did you become a sniper? we have directly to train sniper officers, none higher a military educational institution... does not prepare for such a specialty, these are special training centers, after entering this unit , i already underwent training together with my soldiers, directly in the specialty... snipers, the selection is quite so tough, first of all a person must be motivated, if we talk about the composition of character and mind, it will be easier for those who have some kind of mathematical bias, because you have to count, and count quickly, and if we take it by temperament, it is desirable that these people were so calm, balanced, i would even say plegmatic, it will be easier for them in

this profession, before the sniper takes a position, he has to choose it, to choose a position, you have to walk, because it is not always possible to get there the first time, where you need to go and not always from that position you will see what you need, so you need to walk... a lot, you need to walk with loads, because the group that goes on the task carries a lot of equipment in order to work effectively, it's like minimum, sniper rifle, weather stations, tripods,

rangefinders, binoculars, thermal imaging devices, this is such a stereotype, probably from the plots of some action movies and thrillers , that a sniper is a person who lies there motionless, so sometimes you have to spend a long time in such a monotonous position, but i want to dispel these all the myths, how long can a healthy person lie without moving, i think one, two or three will be the maximum , she still makes some movements, a lot depends precisely on preparation, on the choice of positions, that is, if we take specifically now situation, basically all the work is done from uncomfortable positions, it is sitting, standing, even, that is, the topography of the area does not allow in the classic version to lie down and lie down.

i don't keep records, but i'm more interested in how much our unit destroyed during this time, and at first i tried to keep records, starting with the new year, in fact nine months have passed, well, i guessed from that, it's already well more than a hundred, but again, how to count, sometimes we see that there is a hit, but is it ... an enemy destroyed, or he is wounded, it is not known, or if, for example, we count, he is wounded, and after some time he has already passed into the state of 200, well, judging by the way he was hit, it is not always possible to come and evaluate the result of his work, it is, firstly, the distance, and secondly, the combat situation that is developing at that moment, it is not a training ground or shooting at targets that appear there and disappear after you

hit them. the whole point is that you need to be prepared for these conditions, adapt to them and use them as your own priority, that is, it is cold, so is the enemy cold, hot, the enemy is also hot, for example, and this should be used, if it is summer, you can approach at a closer distance, because you can camouflage yourself well, use the vegetation of the planting, leaves, say please, which opponent is better for you, wounded or killed, if you destroy the enemy. that's all, he was simply reset,

he is gone, another one will come, but if it is a person who is injured, disabled there endlessly, seriously injured, this is the state's expenditure on his treatment, this is the cost of his care, this is a moral factor, that is, others will see what happens to those who go to our land, and it also, well, has a very strong effect on... the morale of the enemy, so i believe that after all, the wounded cause more damage and trouble than the killed, please tell me, and what mistakes should a sniper not make? in general, it is desirable not to make any mistakes, but, apparently, arrogance is critical, underestimation of the enemy is critical, or overestimation of one's

capabilities, these are the main factors that can have a negative effect, plus, in my unit, there were even cases when people, they had to be slowed down, because they were in a hurry, they were going forward, and this could threaten not only them, but also those who were bystanders, you need to pay attention to this attention, feel these moments, events in bakhmut through the eyes of a sniper, what were they like? work in the city requires certain specifics... and certain skills , it is work from buildings and through buildings, that is, there targets could appear somewhere in door and window openings, and you had to have time to practice and carefully observe, then in

we had a lot of hit targets, i will say that we even had to put down the sniper rifle sometimes. somewhere to the side and just take an automatic machine gun, because at such a distance for such purposes it will be more effective than a sniper rifle, this is because there were a lot of them, this is because there were many of them, this is because the distances are such, and this because it is more effective, they did not spare the people there, and the sooner bakhmut is taken, the sooner they will put this victory into action for themselves. that's why they really used techniques there a lot, because in the city, a tank drove by us several times, worked directly on houses, on balconies, windows, on high-rise buildings, and there were meat assaults,

raids, they really happened often, a group went there every few hours, they were destroyed, the following group for...' what can you feel when you do your job, of course you do, that you did it right, you did it well, to feel any pity for the enemy, it's ridiculous, look what they do whether or not you feel fulfilled in this life after all, there is some kind of commandment. a dream that i would still like to realize , i love motorcycles and probably one of my wishes after the end of the war is to make some kind of trip on a motorcycle through europe for a few weeks, for sure to go and just relax from everything, there are mountains,

roads, some new places for to discover myself, new countries, that is, what... is not enough now, i am limited in this there, but i want to travel somewhere, to show how many people outside the circle of your brothers know that you are a sniper, i think that in fact, not very many, well, relatives know, in principle, what i do, the closest ones, and probably some of them are close friends, and i am the kind of person who, in principle, is not very, honey, i don't really like to advertise my work or the work of my unit , actually i think

not much. everything is always on time, that's how i make a film, because there may be nothing left after us, after me in the film. how do you weigh yourself? dovbush, why dovbush? this was a real prototype for him, the dovbush trail, the dovbush stone, the dovbush mountain, and we will gather our army and stop the enemy. here he killed 300, there are 500, and a ghost is flying, knocking down these 100,000 muscovites, you only need to light this wick of the legend and it will live on, run away. you don't like to make topical movies, we now understand that the victory of our spirit has come, epic, but not pathetic movies

, we show them in military units, in hospitals, we go to the front line, you can't lie with them, nothing, you are as sincere as possible, what are you going to tell about love for the motherland or its protection, they have already given their lives for it, only now we can to win back our freedom, this is our longstanding tradition of our struggle for the last 300 years. i am the master here, who will come to my house and will rule how i should live, spit out my pussies with the gods, this is our slogan of our defenders, because the history of slavery will not free anyone. oles sanin, film director, actor, producer of documentary films, musician and sculptor, he is known for his film the leader or flowers have eyes which. was chosen to represent ukraine at the oscars in 2015. guide for the first week of rental broke the box office record in ukraine.

oles sanin created the next film together with the team for five years. dovbush became the loudest event in ukrainian cinematography in recent years. more than a month after its release, the film about the struggle of the most famous opryshki, oleksiy dovbush , continues to gather full halls in cinemas. the film is shown abroad and the rights to 20 countries have been acquired , mr. oles, i welcome you to our studio, it is an honor for us, the team watched your film, and first of all, i want to thank you, for your film, for those the feelings we experienced while watching this film, and the first question immediately, why dovbush , it is the most interesting for cinema, because behind it there is a legend, not just historical facts, its existence, which we learned about in general since the middle of the 20th century, in fact , that it was not just some kind of image of opryshki in the mountains and there was such a name that became a legend, but that it was a real prototype, they found out

only not so long ago, wrote dissertations, identified historical documents , it was all there in the 60s and 70s, films were made, but the most interesting element of all this is that it is always very important for the cinema to have a myth, because the movie hero is different from, well , this genre in general. so that behind this character, behind any one, there was another interesting story, and they always take to shoot films about which some best-selling novels are written, that is, what else is the life of this character a little wider, there were a lot of elements about the voice of lex, you come to the carpathians, you see, there they say the dovbush trail, the stone of the voice, dovbush mountain, dovbush everywhere, yes, but it is connected, if i spoke with the scientist, they they say that it's just that before that there were some important, historical places, some of them were of such sacred importance, they could have been called something else, but after the

name of dovbush was programmed in the mountains, they began to be called by this name, and that's exactly why , that he appeared as a person who gave people hope, who stood up, protecting his native land, who became such a measure of justice, this formula of justice beyond the power of the state, which he actually proposed, it made him such a hero, because were 300 years before him and almost a hundred years after him, but the most glorious sprayer, the most glorious such hero of tsegir, oleksa became an example to follow, i have two votes, a whole army is coming at us, if this is so, then we will all be shot by chickens here, and we will gather our army, stop the enemy and give people freedom , and you probably already know how to do it, we have to stand up for the people, brother.

you emphasize that you don't like to make topical films, but it happened, you know, there is such a saying, everything is always on time, and your film was released in cinemas, it was released five years later, and just as we lived, full-scale the invasion and the year of the great war, even more, and got the hope that we will not be given ...' maybe, this is very important when the question was for me, and the film actually stopped, being already ready there 90%, in fact, the editing was completely ready, the whole concept, we were just finishing after a full-scale invasion of the dubbing of the picture, well, music, postproduction, there is color, computer graphics, retouching, but the film was actually ready, and when i was caught in winter in lviv by journalists, almost everything... pol journalist went to lviv and the embassy saw me, asked what are you doing, i say i'm finishing the color of the film here, how do you finish the film, i say yes, i'm making a film, because

there may be nothing left after us, after me the film, i have to finish. and when the premiere, i said the premiere after the victory, but we now understood that the victory of our spirit has come, we have already understood that we will not give up, that we will resist to the last, that we have no other chance but victory, because the history of slavery will satisfy no one, not just some people, but just no one, and that's it the victory of the spirit came, and we found an opportunity to go to the audience with this film , we went to the audience, because i deeply believe that this is a story about hope ... and about a hero, as you say, which is very relevant today, in which the viewer simply reads some stories that are very important to him, and oleksa himself, and opryshka, and these little squirrels , and a lot of things, and even there, it is important for me, i am now showing it to different viewers, following them, i have traveled the whole ukraine with screenings of the film and even now we show it in military units, in hospitals, we actually go there on

to the front edge, well, they can't see the film, abroad. there are a lot of reviews, where is it going now, the film has already been released, i am once again convinced that the film is actually needed now more than ever and because it gives hope and gives this understanding that what the heroes are for us now are happening now, which we see before our eyes, which are being born, that this is ours, he says, it has become a tradition of our struggle for the last 300 years, maybe even more, one of the main characters is ivan, this is what i had morakhs, when they they sit, look at the field with their brother and he says: those are my mountains, i'm the owner here, and whoever comes to my house and will rule how i should live, will spit out his pies, by god. when i wrote the text and offered it there, at me, the group looked at me and said, this is a very harsh text, maybe we won't, well, it 's already so cruel, how will the audience perceive it, and now our children on the street talk like that

, we write billboards there, such texts, this is our slogan of ours about it is now written on chevrons, well, i was actually presented with a chevron, which phrases from my film, we have friends, our brigade named after oleksa dovbush, they have there, well, they saw the trailers earlier, and for them this was such a convincing story, they wrote it on flags, on chevrons on cars, phrases, well, and not only them, well, that is, this story inspires them. after all, cinema is a story of feelings, it is a story of the heart, of historical facts, of course , but it is primarily an emotional story that bothered me the most and was most important for it to be the story of the human heart and my heroes. and the first spectators, it was 68 separate hunting brigade, which i understand before the release of the film, she chose a name

for herself, well, for somewhere. less than six months, well, i already asked them, well, yes, we chose , well, they saw the trailers of the film, it’s been more than one and a half or two years since the first trailer appeared, they watched all these fights and so on, and for them , well they said that it also influenced them when they were choosing the name, they said, well, it fits, what did you see in their eyes, what conversations did you have, maybe after watching it? first of all, it is not easy to show the film to the soldiers, or whether they are currently in hospitals on the one hand, and on the other hand, i like it so much, because you can't lie to them, nothing, you are as sincere as possible, what will you talk about love for the homeland or its protection, they have already given their lives for this, they have already given their blood and they do it every day, and they turn it into such an open, sincere conversation, we speak very frankly, they always ask to pass it on so that their children can look at

this, well, somewhere on earth, families are asked abroad, with whom they moved, where it is possible to to see how some notes will pass there, there they give chevrons, in the 68th brigade, i talked with them all night, they were already going to bed, they got up again, something, something, well, it was very important for them, they ask everything, well, it’s a little strange, because we all live in the news , and what will happen next, how about some details about the film, there are some very strange details just to talk, the important thing is to talk with you, they want, as i want to read, understand how you made a film about them, they are trying for themselves i understand some kind of mystery to solve, how it happened like that, what is it everything goes together, but they ask such things as what breed of horse was there, and how they shot, well, i understand that it’s just, well, they need it, like a soldier, but they need a live conversation with those who care about them, and here they are they want to continue this conversation a little for themselves, to somehow understand for themselves that all