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host, my name is yuriy fizer, it is monday, 1:14 p.m., which means that on espresso the program world during the war, during which i with my guests, i will discuss the most important things that happened in the world, with reference to ukraine last week, well, at least we are trying to look into the week ahead in order to be, well, at least ready, today there are many topics, more than two guests, let's talk, but before that i want to remind everyone who watches us on youtube , please like and write comments, it's very important for us, we want to hear your opinion, besides, it's very important to promote our channel our programs in youtube's complex algorithm. the more likes, the more comments, the more people will have the opportunity to see, in particular, the world at war program. therefore, please, a big request to you, put favorites. so, let's move on to the first topic

i chose to talk about today. let's talk about - the summit meeting of nato defense ministers in brussels last week, which i... i was at, i was there, i saw it, but with my first guest, the executive director of the foreign policy council ukrainian prism, by gennady maxsak, i want to talk about the aftertaste, mr. vitali, mr. gennady, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine , ma'am, congratulations, glory to the mountains, thank you very much for joining, well, as i said just now, i was there , i saw what was happening inside, but i want to talk to you about the aftertaste, well, five days have already passed, that is, we know what we agreed on, what is the benefit for us, what do we have as a result, and there is a benefit, first, we see that the agreement that was reached at the vilnius summit on the launch of the ukraine nato council, it

works, we see that various formats are taking place, that is, we are already trying to understand for ourselves how we can reach a higher level of cooperation between nato and ukraine in these directions, therefore, precisely as much as possible about meetings at the level of ministers of defense, at the level of our ambassadors, at the level of the minister of legal affairs, which is also planned in november, the more we will understand what topics are common to both, to both partners, and here it is important that right now this council is filled with certain resources, certain committees, that is, the structure of its is increasing, and this is one of the points, the other is what really happened in the fields, about the one-time meeting of the group for support of ukraine, vidomystein, there are agreements, there are under...' previous agreements, for us it is possible, this is a plus, because we we see that despite the fact that there is currently an escalation of the conflict in the middle east, and some attention is diverted , still the political signals we heard indicate that ukraine is on the radar of nato, the european union, and

partners , which are part of the ramstein coalition, so worry that it may be a sharp decline or redirecting certain resources, probably shouldn't, just like we shouldn't. well, let our enemies not hope for that either, and for sure, let them not hope, mr. hennadiy, please tell me, well, at least there in brussels they said that the arrival of president volodymyr zelenskyi was important, do you have any information about that, and why was it so unannounced and so somehow unexpected, because half an hour before the arrival of volodymyr zelenskyi at the nato headquarters, none of the ukrainian journalists present at all knew about this arrival, why so unannounced? well, let's not forget that we are a country at war, and these are security measures , remember how gensex toltermer came to ukraine, few people knew about it either, when he visited the defense industry forum and had meetings with our leadership, so i i think that there is still such a moment here, on the other hand, i think that it was a reaction, a quick reaction

from our side, from the ukrainian side, to what is happening in the middle east, and the alignment of the clocks, which was, let's say, last minute visit, although i will probably have less hope for it, because here again preparation is needed, but the fact that it was unannounced, security, plus again the change in the geopolitical situation in the region, well, during the press conference, with the secretary of defense of the united states of america lloyd austin and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff in the new chairman of this committee, charles brown, charles brown just said that it was very important that volodymyr zelenskyi arrived, because we heard him not on video, but we heard him live , about what ukraine needs, we we can help, and it's great that he was and held many meetings. you have already said about this ukraine-nato council, you mentioned the ukraine-nato council, that is, it is working, but it is working to speed up our, increase our chances and speed up the moment

of joining the north atlantic alliance. in your opinion, according to your estimates, how long do we need for all this, obviously we have to wait until the end of the war. after the end of the war, how long it takes and what we need to pay the most attention to in order to become a full member of the alliance? let's go back a little to the vilnius summit and look at the package that was provided to ukraine, this and again financial assistance, this is a comprehensive package of assistance that includes certain humanitarian aspects, reforms and so on, and also there was signed or the foundations of the interoperability plan were laid there, that's exactly what i think is the clue that we need to pay attention to, so that at the moment when the war ends with our victory and our partners understand this, allies of nato, then he asks... regarding ukraine's internal unpreparedness, they were minimal , that is, interoperability, our compliance

with nato standards, perhaps new standards that appear in ukraine and to which nato must also adapt, must also be kept in mind, and this we have to close the moment for you, that's why i think that the council of ukraine, nato, and our annual assessment program, which will be reformatted, are also currently consulting on what it will look like, and in november there should already be final options and recommendations from the members of the alliance whatever they are wanted therefore, it is precisely our internal track as the rnp, the external track as the ukraine nato council, this is exactly what we can say, and it is important, in addition to the internal track, which i said, that we now see that, come on, the council is a new level, so this is not only about integration, but also about where ukraine can be helpful, or be part of the common security architecture, so i think that the more we are for ourselves during this time, while we are fighting, unfortunately we lose ours, our brothers. sisters and friends, but we understand how we are building the foundation of a new structure

security, this is what we can explain to our partners at the board meeting, it is very important. we heard from our partners that ukraine, well, must necessarily be a member of nato, or we further heard that the door is open, everyone has the right to be a member of nato, yulia, i think that now that everything without saying it, they understand that everything rests on the position of... washington on the position, and the position of the american partners, the united states, we understand, took a certain pause, because this is a politically sensitive issue, and the washington summit, unfortunately, more signals that it will not be as breakthrough , but i think that the partners are focused on the big players, so the more we work in a bilateral format with our partners, and in the united states, in washington and in those capitals that are powerful enough in europe, which represent the nato alliance, the better and the easier it will be, so the explanation is really where we are in

this format, it depends on our partners, you understand, i think that you and i will agree here that when ukraine wins, the alliance will look differently, and the invitation can be fast, prompt and have completely different conditions for us than we have now, so i think that we need to grit our teeth, do our work, but at the same time fulfill our, let's say, with our compatibility and on our other directions, where we have mutual agreements. i completely agree with you on this. mr. gennadiy, the last questions for you, at the nato headquarters at meetings, i heard many times from our partners that ukraine now needs to continue implementing reforms and, in particular, fight corruption. the prime minister, mr. shmyhal, said that we are doing well with this. he already seems to have even said that twice . we fight corruption, do they believe this in the alliance?

well, you see, the situation is that on the one hand, our track record, even in europe , shows that we have done quite a lot of initiative projects, which are connected with certain strategic visions of the fight against corruption, the fight against corruption, these are anti-corruption measures, then i would said that there are other efforts from other partners that unfortunately put additional obstacles in our way, so we heard and saw. and the former president of the european commission junker wrote that ukraine is simply all in the grip of corruption and other attempts by other countries, other politicians, so the work here will be difficult, and it depends not only on our track, what we have done, but on how we communicate with our partners, and we understand that money, rough money, goes to weapons, to support ukraine and therefore the countries that are members of the alliance, they are just worried about how it is really spent, maybe you know this, anxiety, it is... useless, but it must be explained to them that the anxiety is really useless, therefore, it is necessary to increase the effort not only from the steps themselves, but

also from the communication of this situation with partners, so that there is really more information about the efforts than information about how corrupt we are. thank you very much, mr. gennady, for participating in the program, it was gennady maksak, the executive director of the foreign policy council of ukrainian prism, who spoke about the meeting of defense ministers of nato member countries, which took place last week on wednesday and thursday in brussels, the capital of belgium. and on the first day they talked a lot about ukraine, about support , as we can see, here is a conversation with mr. gennady, about the fact that this support is there, and this support will be, even despite the fact that ... in israel, a conflict has begun that diverts attention from ukraine. yes, before moving on to discussing the next topic and introducing the next guest, i'll take a look at youtube. you can watch us on youtube, and there are 1046 people watching on youtube, please join more actively, because the topics are important, the topics are interesting, the guests are interesting,

the topics are important, and therefore it will be very useful and informative. ah, please put your likes, if you like the program, don't like it, because i'm sure you will like the program, but if you like it, don't like it, because it's important for the promotion of this program, and be sure to write your comments, they shelled israeli cities, killed many, now according to new data about 10,400 dead israelis simply entered the territory of israel and simply ... killed israeli residents, about this and other things related to this, i wanted would to talk to yevhen sova, an israeli politician, journalist, member of the knesset of israel, he should join us now, minute by minute, second by second, i really hope so, and to talk about

it, the only thing new i want you to say that this morning there was information that there was an agreement on a ceasefire , the united states of america, israel and egypt, egypt, which again supports the arab world, the united states of america, by the way, united states secretary of state of america, anthony blinken was in israel last week, met with the prime minister of that country, benjamin netanyahu, he then went to saudi arabia last night, in fact, even this morning, today he met with the crown prince, of saudi arabia, and again according to information he has to return today for the second time to israel in order to meet with prime minister benjamin netanyahu for the second time, as well as with the leading

politicians of this country, so as you can see, a lot of everything is happening there, by the way the president of the united states of america, joe biden, may come to israel on the 18th or 19th . so we'll see. now our guest, whom i have already introduced, is not there yet, we are waiting for him to be included. let's go to a short commercial break, see you again in a few minutes. the roof is a project about the feeling of home, about our roots, about identity, it was built by a child, my great-great-grandparents behind us, the house, about what old ukrainian architecture brings to us today, good architecture is not necessarily made with the participation of an architect. churches, mills, houses, mazankas, it depends on us whether these

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the championship for six months in a row. greetings, dear viewers. time to learn about the most important things. according to measurement data, viewers they choose the ukrainian view from espresso. congratulations friends, mykola veresin, vitaly portnikov. good health to everyone. thank you ukrainians for your trust. espresso. works for you, the world during the war program is back on the air on tv channel uso and now i will talk about what i already said before the commercial break, it is, unfortunately, the war in israel, i will talk about it with yevhen sova, a politician, journalist, member of the knesset of israel, mr. yevhen, welcome, welcome, welcome, thank you for joining, look, my first question is going to be as serious as it can be, even with these statements that came out this morning that israel, the united states of america, egypt had agreed to some sort of cease-fire, but yesterday there was

a statement from the secretary-general of the united nations, antonio guterres, who said, quote: "the world is on the brink of an abyss in the middle east, how serious can it be? well, first of all, i haven't been a journalist for 4.5 hours, i'm a former journalist, yet i'm in the knesset it's been almost 5 years, look, we're waging a tough war, we're fighting it started literally a few hours after the atrocious attack by hamas, and there is no need for any additional, any additional information, this is a war that we want to bring to an end, and i am very glad, in my party, the leader of my party, vikdor luberman, said , that the goals of this war must be unambiguous, the destruction of hamas as an organization that threatens the state of israel, hamas is not only the gaza sector, it is also to the west. on the shores of samaria, hamas is in southern lebanon, with the support of hizballah, including actively they are trying to provoke us to open a second front, and like any war

that is being waged, we do not reveal there what we will do tomorrow, the day after tomorrow or two days later, but the questions that concern some humanitarian things, or there temporary cease-fire, although this is also not true, because the head of the press service of the israel defense forces, brigadier general daniel hagary, just said that there is no... cease-fire, that is, there are requests that we receive, in particular, for example, please resume water supply to the southern part of the gas sector, and here you just need to understand, your viewers too, to tell them that israel should not deal with the gas situation at all, that is, israel withdrew from gas in 2005, but nevertheless electricity and water supplies continued , and now our task is to completely cut off, you know, this umbilical cord, as they say here in israel from the gaza sector, that not only would hamas not be in gaza, but also that we would not be responsible for the situation in gaza, let egypt take over seba etu funktion, ochen mnogo

speculations on the topic, we have agreed, as if you are negotiating there now, there are no agreements, but negotiations are always conducted, because we understand that the fate of the kidnapped - 200 citizens who are there, only israeli citizens, i emphasize, that is 199 israeli families received information this morning, well, not all 199, but today there was a statement that 99 israeli families received a notification that their loved ones are in the hands of hamas, that is, not where it is still taking place the identification of bodies on the basis of the army rabbinate is precisely in the gas sector, therefore it is also taken into account, we for our part believe that there should not be any humanitarian corridors, the pressure on hamas should be maximum, if hamas holds our citizens, then why should we now to make some humanitarian concessions, so i can't tell you about any agreements, i can only tell you about the leader of my party, which we are voicing. but you said about the negotiations, the negotiations are still underway, right? no, no, do not negotiate with hamas, i am saying that

if there is any dialogue with us. partners, it is clear that it is being conducted, a dialogue is being conducted with the usa, a dialogue is being conducted with egypt, we have a peace treaty with egypt, we israel and egypt coordinate their actions, we always, always, when something happens in the gas sector, egypt is the first he acts as such an intermediary, still tries, well, at least to understand the situation, because egypt has the same border with gaza as ours, well, i will give you, yuri, look, i will give you an example, between gaza, and in egypt there is a checkpoint rafiyah, okay, this is a checkpoint that... is located on the border, for example, for a long time hamas did not want to open the checkpoint on its side, so that , for example, foreign citizens who are in the territory of the sector could enter the territory of egypt for our part, we were ready, for example, to withdraw foreign citizens to the territory of israel, but what hamas did was not only that in the early days of the war, when hamas started the war, it primarily attacked employees, israeli employees who worked at these checkpoints, they were there

a few that are now closed there eres in the north by krem a little to the south, these people, these people, our citizens, our dead citizens were engaged in the fact that they let humanitarian cargos that came to the port of ashdod, ashdod is a southern israeli city, located somewhere well, 20-25 kilometers north of the gaza strip, you see, for hamas there are no civilians there, hamas uses them now as a human shield, hamas, for example, forbids the residents of gaza to move south, because there is no in the southern part of gaza. .. for example, unra schools, unra - this agency, the un for palestinian refugees, in these schools no one shoots at these schools, in these schools they receive - there are some medicines, water, food, that is - the israeli army said, everyone who remains today in gaza city, and - responsibility for their lives, for their future is borne by hamas, because in the event that at the moment when the ground operation begins, no one will be watching there, and why did you stay in the gaza strip, you were given enough days to leave , here is hamas preventing - this migration

to the south, there the hamas fighters actually cover themselves with their own people, like a human shield, now you know, the discussion is very broad, some say, here in israel, where they say, yes, they voted for hamas, they supported hamas, because there were no elections as such, hamas took control of the gas sector 16 years ago without elections, but the majority of the population supports hamas anyway, why should we then divide the gaza population between hamas, but first, because we let 's start with this, because we are legal the state, we understand that it is peace... citizens must die as a result of what hamas creates, so we try to maneuver, well, i will tell you a secret, it is very difficult to maneuver after we have not yet buried all 1,400 killed israeli citizens , it is very difficult, and in israeli society, it is completely different , today they look at the civilians of gaza in a different way . actually recognized his authority, just like that

you are peaceful citizens, but nevertheless israel, as i have already said, takes into account all these issues with our american partners, with egypt, with any other country that wants to be an intermediary and possibly give us some information about kidnapped citizens of israel, which are now in the sector. mr. yevhen, could you please tell me, but there was also information yesterday that israel, i'm sorry, iran threatened that if israel starts a ground operation in the gas sector, then iran can intervene, and that's all, as far as it can be se