[000:00:00;00] i don't know how kivo says in ukraine, well, that's the case, but here the situation is that we also don't have another ukraine, we only have this one, and we have to protect it for us, for our children, for our grandchildren. against the background of the war against ukraine, against the background of putin's statements, there was a report, more precisely, a statement by the secretary of the national security and defense council, oleksiy danilov, that the federal security service is trying to form a new agency. a network for shaking up internal ukrainian destabilization, i will quote danilov. in in the future, it is about the deployment of a political project aimed at the remnants of the pro-russian population, in parallel with this, an informational intervention is being carried out with an attempt to shake the process of internal ukrainian destabilization, signs of similar activity, its sharp activation of various experts,

intelligence actors and other types of af in the promotion of the russian language of the russian agenda, well , i mean the agenda of the day, they are the ones who at this moment are crying about the failure of the counteroffensive, hinting at the need to review the entire war, and this is no longer an exit to the borders of 1991, they give advice on how to fight with the ssu, give out false insiders about conflicts among the military-political leadership, call to accept good russians, and in the end hint that with russia it is necessary to... ukrainian law enforcement agencies carefully monitor manifestations of such hostile actions, identifying and stopping them, mr. general, please tell me, it is absolutely obvious that there are political forces, or leaders who claim political leadership in ukraine, who understand that, well, it is obvious that 25 percent or 20 citizens are still under some illusions there and about the russian language and

about... the russian world, i admit that it is possible that this number of fewer of these people decreased with the war, the great war, but still, in what way yours, the security service of ukraine, because this is the competence of the security service of ukraine, can prevent this, if there was not this agent network about the fsb, which mr. danilo is talking about, well , first of all, it should really monitor the situation, and secondly, identify its leaders so called those thoughts and thirdly it is necessary to monitor the e-e contacts of these leaders with those who pass these narratives to them, i think that in the near future we will hear very interesting detentions, well not detentions, but counter-actions from

our counter-informants. on the subject of who, where , with whom he communicates, who receives funding from where and who applied for what, or is applying for what, i think, in the conditions of war, we definitely have no opportunity and no desire to breed any sentiment here, this starting from what concerns the fifth column in the form of the so-called church, everything, the organization of the ukrainian orthodox church and ending with those so truly intelligence actors. well, when danilov talks about an intelligence actor, it is obvious that he is talking about one actor-intelligence, about oleksiy orestovich, he already wrote on his resources that i do not understand what the secretary of the national security and defense council does, i saw that he carries some slides to the office of the president of ukraine, but in

principle, it is not clear what the function is. and why does he talk about it, uh, we hear so often in the performance of this man, various statements, quite contradictory, during the war they look it is very strange and very wild, because there is a war, and it is clear that now there is rocking or rocking the boat there and talking about the fact that there are good russians who must be supported, or the russian language - this is the language that must be protected, because it is used to communicate a lot of people in ukraine, or... make some more accusations there towards the military leadership of ukraine, a lot of questions arise as to why this is actually happening, especially since it is in a large audience, and we see that, in principle, the audience reacts, part of the audience in general, perceives it and completely calmly reacts to

that, or with some admiration, you mentioned the church, or maybe the church could be the first example of how ukraine should deal with the russian intelligence network, because as in the first case, we are talking about a person who has influence there and relays his thoughts to large audiences, but the church is a large agent network, that is, 10,000 parishes throughout ukraine, branches of the russian orthodox church, this is simply a huge network through which it is possible to carry out internal destabilization of such a scale that, in principle, now it seems can hardly be imagined, that is, difficult. imagine why in your opinion this network continues to work in our country, i have been asking you about this for a long time, but it is already clear that what needs to be done with this network, such as

transferring it from the regime of a branch of the russian orthodox church to some other church, or at least to make sure that those who work openly in the kremlin do not work in ukraine. well, i think that this whole story will end in the near future, you know the situation in the verkhovna rada, despite the opposition of a certain number of deputies, including from the pro-government party, still gathered the necessary number of votes and demonstrated that there are 226 votes in the hall that can put this structure in place. what does this say? this suggests that certain legislative acts will be adopted in the near future that will regulate the stay of these people wearing

incomprehensible clothes in the territory of ukraine, this is a time, that is, they will not exactly have a legal status if they want somewhere get together one by one in the apartments, well, let's see, how they will do it is another matter, it is with those people who are around them, spinning, yes, there, whether, or those who consider themselves leaders of public opinion, then i think that some of them are just scumbags, which are caught and the agency that reaches out to them, if they don't understand that and continue their activities, well, that's their problem, i think that at some point they can just be over for them, very, very much. very bad, we, mr. general, apart from the russian orthodox church, see how

they work in the ukrainian information space russian special services, because, for example, i look at the sociology of the kmis, and 32% of ukrainians are sure that there is a conflict between the government and the military leadership, before this figure was 14%, but it would seem, well, where in society can the idea of , that the political leadership, the military leadership, that there is some kind of conflict between them, or they are in conflict, obviously in this situation, we are talking about ipso, russian ipso, eh, how to help this russian ipso, how can society still remain healthy from the influence, a foreign, foreign, aggressive state, which works against our motherland. well, unfortunately, apart from raising a new generation, which, no, is not subject to this ipso, there is no other way. listen, well, i didn't just mention the former deputy

of the verkhovna rada, lyukiva, through whom the narrative about the complete relocation of israelis to ukraine, well there, i don't know, partly to poland, is promoted, that's so much nonsense. that well, themselves, well, those who understand it, read it, understand what it is, what is behind it, but the vast majority of people who read it, call, or they come up to me and say, well, it's true, we, we are waiting for them to come, what should we do, the land has already been sold, i say, why do people not understand that this is just a manipulation of their consciousness, that's why i say more time education, education... of a new generation that will be immune from these russian narratives. thank you, mr. general, for the conversation, it was major general of the sbu in zapas, the former deputy head of the security service of ukraine, viktor yagun. friends, we

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the ukrainians for their trust. espresso works for you. greetings friends. my name is vasyl zama, this is the world view program on the espresso tv channel, for the next 45 minutes we will talk with you about something important, the topic i chose for our conversation today is the war in israel, the roots of the conflict, which has been going on for quite some time for a long time, and the vision of solving this, well, it is difficult to say the problem here, the vision of solving this problem of war, i would say so, can it be solved at once, or is it in any case a conflict that will go on and on and

on, only with more or with less intensity, and the palestinians who live in the gaza strip in the south of israel invaded the state of israel on october 7 and started this invasion with a fairly massive hacker attack, which, well, disabled certain defense organs of the state of israel and actually allowed the enemies almost unhindered to enter the territory of israel and in fact unhindered to start massacring the civilian population in individual kibbutzim, which were again located in the south of israel not far from the gaza strip. in addition, it was shot, brutally shot, spat on, destroyed, raped, beaten, chopped up, the supernova festival, which, again, was located in the desert, in the south of israel, and this show of brutality reminded us of the footage we saw in buchi, in

the south, in rpin, in izyum, that the enemies the russians committed, they mean, on the territory of our state, such an allegedly unexpected war, which... had not happened for 50 years, in 1973 there was a so-called doomsday war, well, it happened again and it actually continues until the end that the end of this war is not in sight. we will try to understand what the palestinians want, or those behind them, what hamas wants , above all, what the palestinians who supported hamas want, what israel wants, who has what rights and how this situation can be resolved, is it possible settle in a certain or, in a certain way? by with the help of international organizations, some kind of dialogue, or everything will be decided by weapons on the battlefield. vyacheslav likhachev, historian, member of the expert council of the center for civil liberties, is in touch with us. mr. vyacheslav, i congratulate you. good day. you know, when

some people who, well, no, have not delved particularly into the history of israel, into the ancient history of israel, into the history of the palestinians, ask who the palestinians are, well, it is worth saying that this history has been going on for quite a long time, it is that people . who appeared from the ancient people of felestimlians, which are still in the old testament, these are the people of telestim, who at one time were buried under the ruins of the temple by the israeli judge , samson, when he destroyed that temple there, well, this story is quite long, it has somehow passed through centuries, millennia, passed into our times, let's outline a little for our viewers, the roots of the confrontation between israel and palestine, so now we don't say specifically hamas, because it's not just hamas, it's the ideology of many palestinian people who live in the territory of the gaza strip, where does it start and how did it get to such a tense and still unresolved situation these days? in short, of course, modern palestinians have almost nothing to do with the philistines mentioned in

the old testament, just a name that was still used by the jews, in biblical times and later in the times of the roman empire to denote as simply the name of a province, and by name of this territory, the arabs, part of the arab people living in this territory, received the name palestinians, already in the 20th century, and partly as a response precisely for the creation of the state of israel, and in confrontation with the jewish zionist project on the same territory , the palestinian national identity arose. which differs in a certain way from the all-arab, and the all-arab in turn split into egyptian national, syrian national and so on, that is, it is about a part of such a larger community, a part of the arab people that lives in the territory of palestine,

in the territory of modern israel, and which during of recent generations identifies itself with this name: and has self-awareness palestinian, if you try, and from this prehistory in part, you can understand the roots of the conflict, of course it is not about an exceptional religious conflict of biblical times, it is about the self-determination of two peoples on the same territory, it is rather something similar to the struggle of polish and ukrainian nationalists on the territory of volyn and polissia in the middle of the 20th century, rather than some biblical religious confrontation, but religion began to play a more significant role with the decline of pan-arab nationalism,

after the second world war and with the emergence of independent arab states in the post-colonial era, they turned out to be unable to cope with the state of israel , secular secular arab nationalism in a certain way stumbled on israel and became attractive to the population as a mobilization project, and sometime starting in the 70s and 80s 20 century, this conflict - began to take on more religious such ideological features, because religious islamism, radical islamism, began to become more popular, both in the region,

in general, and among the palestinians, who believed themselves aggrieved, who are deprived of their own state, their own territory, their own rights, and this is how it led the religious extremist group hamas to seize power in the territory of the gaza strip in 2007, in contrast to the official , semi-legitimate leadership of the palestinian authority. of the national administration on the so-called west bank of the jordan river, that is, in judea and samaria, where the chairman, or president, the head of the palestinian national authority mahmoud abbas, the palestinian national authority, as the officially recognized representative of the palestinian people, in turn, recognized the right of israel to exist in general, the dispute between the palestinian national administration and israel in the borders. in who owns jerusalem and its city world, in some other details, but in general the palestinian national

administration agreed that israel has the right to exist in this region in general, it is only necessary to divide this territory according to the model of the so -called two states for two peoples, this the official such short concise name of the project the creation of an independent palestine, a project supported by the international community and which corresponds to the decision of the former un general assembly. hamas, unlike the official representation of the palestinian national authority, does not recognize israel's right to exist at all. and, the hatred that is brought up in the territory under the control of hamas, and the youth there and the radical part of the society there, it leads to those... to which the invasion

of israel on the territory of hamas on october 7 led, they have for the purpose of killing as many israelis and jews as possible, in general, because the leadership of hamas called for the killing of jews all over the world, and they do not recognize the right of israel to exist at all, and here no compromise can be reached. and well, it seems that everything is going to the point that israel will simply force, wipe out, clean out the sects of gaza from the hamas government, and that the main question will be what to do with this territory and with this population next, most likely, it is about transferring this territory, as it was before 2007 under palette control. national administration, but what are the possible guarantees of not repeating the scenario of the return to power, the extremist

movement, the extremist part of the palestinian social movement for liberation, this is a question for both israel and the palestinians, as well as partly for the international community. i would like to understand, well, you have already said about this invasion on october 7, but i won't be sorry now. i don't know, i haven't read materials specifically about possible actions during the so-called doomsday war, which in 73 there was still a year ago, here are the similar atrocities that we saw in some kibbutzim and at the supernova festival that took place in the south of israel, all that is described and severed heads and well , the video, when a militant just walks through the kibbutz, here i am, a fresh video yesterday looked over, and just shoots people, someone at home, someone out on the street, this is what we saw in buch, this is the same as what we saw in irpin, in izyum, in kherson and so on, that is, in in many cities of ukraine, what the russians did, who, by the

way, just like the hamas, their leadership does not recognize the right of ukraine to exist, their propagandists, of course unofficial persons there, well, the official persons are overwhelmed , and the propagandists openly say that we must destroy ukrainians, the more ukrainians we kill, the better it will be, that is, this is the absolute ideology of russia, the absolute ideology the so-called ruskomir, this is exactly the same ideology of hamas in relation to israel, the more we are, the more of them we need to kill, then we will live well from it, that's why we see it, but whether there were similar atrocities before, or did it happen now , and again if you have a goal to achieve, to conquer territory, to weaken the armed forces of the enemy in order to conquer even more territories, you act against the armed forces, you act a little differently, yes, well, these are completely different military and tactical actions, but they acted precisely for to terrify, frighten and show the world a picture of these atrocities, why do you think this happened, how can it be explained, and again, the question logically arises here, was there any, maybe, maybe

there were some instructors from abroad who ... they trained the hamasites to act just like that way? there are several aspects here, well, first of all, regarding the 1973 doomsday war, then israel fought with armies, with the conventional armies of the states, and the invasion of hamas into the territory of israel is compared to the doomsday war, because it also captured the military-political the leadership of israel from nenatsk, and also the first day or two was very successful in terms of the actions of the syrian and egyptian armies, then israel tried to repel them, but then, it was a conventional war between the armed forces of different countries, first of all its purpose was , of course, military, and there too, of course the civilian population suffered, but the majority of those who died then

were certainly military men who first met the enemy. who tried to stop it and finally stopped it, unlike the hamas raid, when despite the fact that this is how they began to capture military bases, but according to the available data, actually combatants in the military make up about 10% of all victims of this terrible attack, that is, exactly the purpose of this attack was to kill and take hostages, it was such a bandit raid, and no one. conventional army, hamas did not have on for the purpose of liberating by capturing some territories, he had no intention of launching an offensive and there liberating, as they believe, alkutz , that is, jerusalem, the territory of tel aviv, they had the goal of killing and taking hostages, if we are talking about the influence of a foreign

factor on these atrocities and what ... here are the instructors, everything is quite transparent here , we know that hamas as a fighting structure was formed with significant help and under technical, technical guidance, including instruction from iran and the islamic revolution guards corps, it is clear, but this is more about the technical side of their actions, which concerns their style, so to speak, then they were obviously very strongly influenced by the actions of the islamic state, in the 15th year, they in the 15th, 16th, they saw in this a certain an example of how it is possible to impress, terrify such a western-type society, with which they are dealing in israel, well, besides

, as i said, it is system by line. the education of hatred of hamas in the gaza strip is actually what a significant part of the youth there, who are covered by that movement, who are in the ranks of this movement, they consider the goal is just killing, there is no rational goal to create a palestinian state, so that hamas rules gaza for more than 15 years without any israeli control. if they wanted to create a state, they have a certain one, well, if you can symbolically compare singapore, but somehow singapore did not succeed, because their efforts were not aimed at the development of the economy, not at the development of education, the system of social security, protection of security health, their efforts were