tv [untitled] October 17, 2023 8:30pm-9:01pm EEST
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eh, i think that in this, all for orben, we should probably worry the least, that is , of these characters whom you listed, because after all, the level is clear, and you see, after all, in spite of everything is happening, and despite this constant flirting of hungary, and despite the fact that remember how much szijjártó, the minister of foreign affairs of hungary, recently, what he, how much he said four, four times... he already met with russian representatives and this continues again , well, that is , the position is clear, but in spite of that, hungary is still good forced to at least continue to be in unity with the european union, and as for the policy of condemning russian aggression, sanctions, etc., which by the way, the teacher met, he also said that he managed to talk with putin, the president of serbia, and he said: that
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putin looks confident, well, this is understandable, because serbia and hungary, they have, let's say, financial projects with china, in the infrastructure sphere and not only, there in serbia, china helps to build railways, roads, and so on, and in hungary, similar, as a matter of fact, budapest-belgrade, the big, big highway, the big autobahn, which they are helping there, they are investing in it, well, but if he speaks ... in general about what is happening these days in china, it is clear that sidzinpil is trying to use it in his own interests, to demonstrate that china can be a center of attraction for those who at some point in some way disagree with the policies of the west, as they say, that is, with the united states and the european union, and it is clear that they are challenging the west, this whole project in general one... train
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one way, it is a struggle, a geopolitical, powerful, struggle of land against the sea, the sea, which represents globally, the united states, now represents from the point of view of trade routes and from the point of view of the ability to ensure the security of key sea connections of the ocean, well, china has challenged this precisely across the land, that is, this is a big geopolitical project that is thrown primarily to the united states, but a very interesting moment, it is less discussed now, but the day before there was information that china once again asked russia about increasing its participation in the arctic development project in the northern sea route, in fact, they are very actively claiming it, they are declaring it, and since russia does not have such capabilities, and there are trade and so on, china clearly
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speaks about it, except that it is very interesting that china once again, well, tried to underestimate the level of the russian dictator putin, it was noticeable, zhenmin jibao, about the chinese pro-government newspaper placed his interview, part of the extract even on the third page, he was nowhere on the front pages, nowhere, this is also important moment, as russia did not try, and it is very noticeable that vassal dependence is increasing. very noticeable, you know, i specially monitored, unfortunately, i had to do this, the various russian information spheres, what they discussed, you know, they almost went there chanting, which is impossible, china, you know, everyone, everyone , well, well, you can see this vassal dependence, you can see what they will read in china, you can see that putin is going there and he went there clearly not as an equal player, but he went... as a subject who goes to
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the emperor to talk about something and to ask, i i think that this is very, very noticeable, it is extremely noticeable, and china in general is now using all this to demonstrate that, in turn , the west will have to reckon with the fact that something that can be called the coalition of the eastern states or the east and the global south, which the chinese really, really want to build, but this summit, or meeting, is not a summit, we will not call it a summit, because there are state leaders, there are prime ministers, well, in principle , whether the ministers there represent different states, this forum international, it is taking place against the background of the escalation in the middle east, or simply put, the war of militants, the masses against the state
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of israel, tomorrow, as i said, joe biden should come to jerusalem, today olaf scholz is there, today the minister of defense of great britain finds. in washington, there are consultations about what is happening in the middle east, and somehow it is clear that those who gathered in beijing are certainly tangential in one way or another to what is happening in the middle east, because the united united states of america, great britain, well and even more so, china, russia, iran, syria, they claim influence in the middle east, as you see it. tomorrow's visit by biden, today's scholz, to what extent they are able to restrain israel from a ground operation in the sector in the gas sector, because this will somehow affect the further development of events in the middle east and the possible connection to this
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war, syria, hezbollah, iran, other countries , to the big arab. of the israeli war, which has not yet happened, you know, first of all, obviously , that the leaders of the states go and come to israel indicates that the security conditions allow it to be done, this is obvious, it can indicate that there are reasons to believe that a large-scale escalation will now take place with the participation of iran or other states or iranian proxies, hezbollah or others. there probably won't be any shiite organizations located in lebanon or syria, this is the first, second, i don't think that israel will conduct a large-scale operation, ground, land, as it seems to me, everything is going to the fact that the united states and the west, somewhat
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restrained israel, from the idea of what is needed, well, we saw these pictures, tanks, a huge number of israeli soldiers, reservists. who have arrived and are ready, i think that this operation will be limited to such point strikes and actions of special forces, that is, we are already hearing reports that the leader of the hamas terrorists has been destroyed, there are others and so on, responsible for various finds, this is already happening, and it is precisely because the united states and the west, especially with iran, are not ready and do not want a big war, well, this is clearly not included... plans to conduct a large-scale land campaign with iran, and what seems to be signs that, by the way, the war in israel, this is now from the point of view of settling the situation, may be in the future some, well, ah, points of contact,
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in fact, between china and the united states, because turn attention, the position of xi jinping and china is that there should be two states, israel and palestine. and i can also recall the interview of president biden, which i mentioned, that hamas is hamas, they are terrorists that must be destroyed, and the palestinian state is the palestinian state, and this de-escalation could be an example if it was possible to extrapolate from our experience and deter russia, if china and the us held talks , for example, in san francisco, which should take place in november, if this meeting will still take place, it is not known, it would be a good experience, but on alas, the situation is somewhat different, and one should not hope that in our case it may be as it was according to the israeli track, that israeli track, israel itself, i think, is not very happy with the way it is being made, actually. at the same time, against this background, we see how russia tried to advance
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in the un resolution on gas, without condemning hamas, the council of security rejected it, the permanent representative of the prion russian federation, vasyl nebendzia, said. next, let's listen, we regret that the soviet once again turned out to be a hostage of the selfishly driven bloc of western delegations, this is the only reason why it could not send a clear, strong collective signal aimed at de-escalation. after all , we are talking about the largest outbreak of violence in the middle east in recent decades. today, the whole world is waiting for the council security will be able to take decisive steps to stop the bloodshed. but the delegations of the western countries put their expectations on these, mr. oleksandr,
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considering how putin is trying to use the war in the middle east and return to major international politics, in the status of a peacemaker or a human being. well, the peacekeeper in quotes, of course, uh, in your opinion, uh, is russia interested in further escalating the situation in the middle east, will it be able to do it, given the fact that, well, two aircraft carrier groups of the united states of america still standing near the shores of israel? they are interested, of course, definitely, and will try to shake up the situation in the future. here it is already worth understanding that the obvious victory of the israeli army, which i think will be ensured over hamas, terrorists , unfortunately, cannot mean the end of the problem that exists, this is clear, because all the same destabilizing factors, they will persist, and contradictions parties and
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israelis, palestinians, they will also exist, regarding, regarding borders, regarding statehood and so on, a lot of issues, and of course, against this background, they will try to play, and in this situation , you know, the discussion of this issue and the call, netanyahu, and the conversation with putin, well, they look, to me, in general ... not quite appropriate, because what about talk about what to talk about with russia , which to date is clearly destabilizing from what is, and in no way does it affect the situation in order to contain and stop the bloodshed, as they say, on the contrary, they add fuel to the fire, and this in fact, it is clear, but at the same time it is important what position it takes in the end iran, because without iran, russia will not be able to provide such a serious influence , after all, they need iran, and iran, in turn
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, is also playing its game, obviously, because iran is looking for an opportunity to return it to the nuclear agreement , so-called , i'm pretty sure that as soon as he would return there, he would abandon russia and withdraw his support from russia, in fact very quickly, this is very typical of iranian-persian international politics. relations with the beginning of hostilities in the middle east, the head of the main administration intelligence of the ministry of defense of ukraine, general budanov said that he does not rule out that this is the beginning of a global war, which will consist of regional warriors, which will eventually lead to this global war, which can be spread in africa, there in north korea.
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against south korea or there in taiwan, well, that is, in different parts of the world, when these fires are lit, they say, then there will be a feeling, will there be perfection that this is a global war, according to you, is the world able to hold now, the civilized world , keep countries with autocratic rule, are they able to keep them? from igniting this international fire, which will inevitably lead to the third world war? you know, this question is of course now in the plane of the united states, the west that is going, well, the united states, plus the eu, plus japan, south korea, australia, all countries that in principle refer to themselves as western civilization, in terms of the way of thinking and living, actually speaking, and china, but i think that it is precisely in the plane of what rules they can
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agree on or not agree on, the rules of the game, coexistence and increasing china's participation in international relations, because this is the desire of beijing, it is obvious, they want a greater role, a greater role to play and strive for it, and plus, despite china, it is clear that in russia... trying to play their own policies, they are trying to spread the situation, now that they have a strategic uncertainty between the east and the west, actually, what is happening is also a big problem, and eventually it led to the fact that the us put them in a report that that you need to prepare for a possible confrontation with china and russia, but it seems to me that it may now have a sign. of just such a regional level, the biggest war that exists now is, after all, russian aggression
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against ukraine, all the rest will try to extinguish it in a certain way, but economic , political, diplomatic, informational competition will be quite powerful, and then everything will depend on that , how the united states and china may or may not agree. thank you, mr. oleksandr, for the conversation, it was oleksandr musienko, a military expert, and we are continuing our conversation, including on our youtube and facebook platforms, we are live , so please don't forget to like this video on youtube and take part in our poll, today we ask you if you trust information anonymously to telegram channels, yes, no, and or your answer option, please write in the comments under this stream. next we have volodymyr tsibulko, a political expert and people's deputy of ukraine of the fourth convocation, mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you,
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glad to see you on our air, congratulations, well, first of all, i congratulate all our guests on the all-ukrainian atakams day, because... today american weapons were tested at two airfields that are under temporary control in the temporarily occupied berdyansk and luhansk, nine helicopters, systems of pppo, dozens, russian occupiers were destroyed by a strike, well, what do you say about how atakams declared himself in ukraine and how he declared himself to the russians, considering the fact that there are many ... there were predictions that the decision of the united states congress states of america about these 45 days of the interim budget, where there was no additional funding for ukraine, regarding weapons, and the war that began in the middle east, or continues these days, that they will somehow prevent the americans from supplying
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weapons to the armed forces of ukraine, this is refuted, what to expect from the united states of america . of what is currently happening in the middle east. well, the middle east is such an unpredictable case, although, on the part of hamas , aggressiveness was growing, especially in recent weeks it was clear that some kind of preparation was underway, that is, the israeli special services understood something, something was being monitored, but given the fact that in ukraine several , well, in particular, absolutely such a disproportionate , disproportionate attack on, avdiivka, which was clearly being prepared, was prepared for several months, somewhere two months at least, because
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everything was concentrated, that fires on the eastern front, that is, the russians used aircraft, barrel artillery, volley fire systems , mortars, and in the end, concentrated there under 10,000 manpower that attacked avdiivka, that is, we can say that the calculation was total for such an escalation, and can this aggravation, be perceived as preparation for putin's visit. in beijing, it seems to me that it was very important for putin to prepare a strong negotiating position with china, or to strengthen xizenping before the upcoming meeting, with the ates summit in san francisco in november, well, so to speak , to strengthen xizenping's negotiating position,
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judging by , as putin is perceived in beijing, probably sizpin did not need this service, but this synchronization, let's say, of several fronts at the same time, shows that putin really needs some negotiating position, he is pressing with last forces, let me remind you that in addition to ukrainians, well, such activity in the ukrainian direction, a gas pipeline, baltic connection connector, was blown up, along with that , an optical fiber that ran parallel to that baltic connector was blown up, today there was information that the fiber optic lines between estonia and sweden were also damaged, that is , we see
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putin's game on many sites at the same time, and the current response of the use of matakam. er, probably er, was a response to an attempt to er, let's say, raise the stakes, that is, putin, putin began to hysterically pressure on all possible platforms, and today i received the first, first thorough answer, it turned out to be very panicky for the russian troops, in the morning i monitor everything, where it is possible to monitor, in the public places of these zetvienkors, well, this is just a shock, i.e. how demoralized they are, and the most important thing is that they are demoralized by the fact that the offensive on avdiyivka was enough for three days, today is a week from the beginning of this offensive, they are just shocked, because the resources are burned, the equipment is burned, the losses, according to the technique, are 1:10 , by
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manpower is about the same, and the resources are running out, that is, and two more preschool strikes, i think that here, most likely, there will be a panic among the military, as i understand it, the generals have long been pushing putin to leave some part of the territory and cling to the remnants of captured ukrainian land , which they are, which will be easier for them to defend, mr. volodymyr, today in israel, olaf scholz is the federal chancellor of germany, tomorrow joseph biden will fly there, we see how world leaders support israel. the presence of two world leaders in israel is still a sign and equalizes the situation in the middle east.
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at the same time, we see how vladimir putin is now trying to take on the role of a peacemaker, because we remember how in the first days of the attack by hamas on israel, like before moscow, representatives of the middle eastern countries that are hostile to israel, like them and something was consulted there, today the vice president of iran visited minsk, he spoke with the self-proclaimed president of belarus, that is, they are still preparing some an answer or a basis for showing the whole world that there is a conditional group of countries that opposes the united states of america , it is belarus, russia, iran, syria, well, partly china, somewhere behind the scenes, north korea, in your opinion, what and in what way can the united states of america do in order to knock off this crown of a peacemaker from, putin, because
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putin, i understand that in this situation he decided to become such a middle eastern richala, who is there between different countries, well, in the style of the st. petersburg backyards, he decided to hurry on to run over someone, and then propose a solution to this issue, that in a way it can be neutralized, it is meant, well , not to eliminate, but simply to neutralize, there are several factors here, the fact is that exactly, palestine and hamas were the instrument , with that hype that jumped on israel, then putin came, met with netanyahu, and putin found the right words, so to speak, to cool down the aggressiveness of hamas and israel, it was good. but it seems to me that these attempts by putin, and especially, are absolutely worthless netanyahu's conversation with putin, which, in my opinion, was a shock for israeli
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society, i want to remind you that israeli society very clearly shifted all the blame for this blunder primarily to netanyahu, for this catastrophe, for the loss of lives, and these poor attempts. .. netanyahu to talk to putin, then putin, who obviously counted on the fact that this attack and this escalation could, well, for example, prevent the rapprochement of saudi arabia with israel and shake the oil market, suddenly this attack resulted in such a huge tragedy, it seems to me that this visit... of the iranians to minsk, then, er, well, such intensive communication in the islamic world, the neat behavior of the same erdogan, er,
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actually created a new reality, the fact is that the war against ukraine, was incomprehensible to the islamic world, but when israel was attacked now, israel responded harshly to hamas, and there are still clashes on the border. with lebanon involving hezbollah, it all creates a mobilizing factor for the islamic world, and it seems to me that just, well, it 's very important for these forces of the collective south to find some, some kind of solidarity of the islamic world, as an opposition to, well, the golden billion, relatively speaking, that is, anti-democracy, she spun. found formats and decided to base it not on ideology, but, in my opinion, on islamic unity. mr. volodymyr, i want to ask you one more question, i want to ask you one more question about
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the domestic front , today there was information that the kyiv regional council has suspended the powers of all deputies from the opzh, that is, finally in ukraine at least one council has suspended, not just one, but how many of them , no, no, the cherkasy regional council suspended its activities the opzh faction on the day of the attack, it seems, well, on february 24 or after february 24, the activity of the opzh faction in the region was immediately stopped, in the elections of the 20th year, more than 4,000 deputies from the opzh were elected to the local councils of various levels, the opzh has been banned for a long time, the council consists of deputies who are elected from a party that is recognized as hostile in ukraine, and 4,000 people throughout ukraine manage finances, land, they manage us, why? ago. that along the entire vertical
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, the closest partner in the councils of the lower levels for the servant of the people turned out to be the opzzh, that is, the blok became such, well, traditionally, since the servant of the people is the youth party of the regions, then he became a stauncher and mentor for many factions in the councils of the lower levels, and precisely, very often precisely, well, in the councils of different levels, in local self-government , the opzh has always been the first ally, the servant, and so we see, this is also reflected in the parliament, that is
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, the opzh itself acts as a not declared, but permanent partner of the servant, but now factions, not factions, but groups of deputies, which formed, er, and this it's surprising, because this half-measure, half-measure, to eliminate the outspoken fifth column from the policy, is a tangible social irritant, because of this, by the way, the servant has no prospects. for re-election to the next parliament, how it could end for ukraine, if possible briefly, the existence of these opzh deputies throughout the entire vertical of power, it seems to me that if the verkhovna rada eliminated the opzh faction and deputy groups that were then formed on the basis of ppzh , it would be a signal to the councils of the lower levels, for now
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the verkhovna rada does not agree to this. and therefore, any actions of the authorities are perceived as imitative, i.e., well, in fact , no one believes in the honest intentions of the authorities, especially when people look at their salary information and look at the prices in stores, well, this simply completely erases perspective, servants in politics thank you, mr. volodymyr, for the conversation, it was volodymyr tsybulko, a political expert, and a person who knows about ukrainian politics, almost everything, at the end, the very end of the program, the results of our survey, which we conducted in do you trust youtube? you give information to anonymous telegram channels, no , 91%, 9% trust, these are the results of the survey, it was the verdict program, it was brought by serhiy rudenko, i wish you all good health, take care of yourself and your relatives,
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goodbye. can the conflict between israel and hamas develop into a major war in the middle east, who else could be involved, we talk about this on bbc news ukraine live from london, i'm yevhennia shedlovska. israel prepares for ground operation in gaza after hamas attacks, while u.s. warn iran not to interfere. so let's talk about diplomacy, how the leaders of different countries are trying to prevent the conflict between israel and
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