[000:00:00;00] take care of yourself and your loved ones, goodbye, can the conflict between israel and hamas turn into a big war in the middle east, who else can be involved, we are talking about this on bbc news ukraine live from london, i am yevgenia shedlovska. israel is preparing for a ground operation in gaza after attacks by hamas militants, while the united states warns iran not to intervene. so, let's talk about diplomacy, how the leaders of different countries try to prevent the expansion

of the conflict between israel and palestine by the hamas group. let's start with what the united states is doing. it is a key partner of israel. immediately after the attacks by palestinian militants, the us assured israel of its unwavering support. secretary of state anthony blinken is on the road all the time these days. he was in israel, in jordan, bahrain, qatar, in the united arab emirates, in saudi arabia, in egypt, then again in israel, again in jordan. according to the results of the last visit to telyaviv, blinken said that. agreed to develop a plan to deliver humanitarian aid to the gas sector and to define zones where civilians can be safe, this is what many arab leaders have demanded. and now president biden is going to the middle east, this is a sign of how serious things are. such trips are planned for months. biden goes to israel and then to jordan, the united states sends a second aircraft carrier to the eastern mediterranean, that is,

closer to israel. 2000 american. military, as stated in the pentagon, are on high alert, but american officials say they do not plan send troops to israel. and regarding biden's visit to israel, remember when he came to kyiv at the beginning of the year, it was not announced for a long time, it was a classified visit until the last minute, a visit to a country in a state of war. now , biden's visit to israel was announced a day earlier, so this is more than symbolic support, it's another warning. will he be able to biden to stop the expansion of the conflict is analyzed by a bbc correspondent who works in the south of israel. undoubtedly , this is welcome news in israel. even after after joe biden first publicly commented on the hamas attack and declared that america stands shoulder to shoulder with israel and supports its right to self-defense, a giant billboard with the words "thank you mr. president" with a photo of

a smiling us president was hung in telavi . joe biden has been involved in local politics for a good 50 years and knows the region very well. he realizes that this is not only a matter of foreign policy, not only problems of israeli-palestinian relations, but can potentially lead to many other crises. this is also an internal issue politicians he must not only do something, but america has already done a lot. has sent military aid, helps israel with intelligence, etc., but he also has a very visible support for israel, that's why he wants to come here, it's a very risky trip, because if israel enters the gas and there are terrible pictures of palestinian civilian casualties, then the picture of him standing next to benjamin netanyahu will go viral, i think this visit is very biden-esque, he wants to be here, he wants

to stand shoulder to shoulder with israel, do everything possible to stop this war, we heard from anthony blinken that the parties are now working on what he said is a plan to deliver humanitarian aid to the civilians of gaza, it's hard to imagine president biden coming unless such a deal is close to being passed. biden's visit will also reassure those arab leaders who feared that america's attention had turned away from the middle east. americans even use the phrase u-turn, and joe biden himself focused his attention on issues that mattered more to him, such as ukraine, where he believed he could to achieve more, but as american diplomacy in the middle east intensifies, so do the russians' diplomatic efforts in the region. putin is meeting with chinese leader xi jinping these days to discuss, he says, international issues. russia tried and failed to get a vote in the un security council. vladimir putin held talks with

his allies in the region yesterday. with syria, iran, lebanon. it is dangerous, but not only the americans are trying to be active here. the situation has a huge resonance. and in the morning it became known that it was northern. korea, according to sources in south korea, appears to have provided weapons either to hamas or to groups affiliated with it. there are wheels within wheels, smaller wars inside larger warriors. this region is a powder keg, and joe biden wants to be the fireman who puts out the conflict before it explodes out of control. russia, which was just mentioned, offered the security council. to vote for a resolution on the israeli-palestinian conflict that did not mention hamas. this is a vote failed so what will iran do? iran is a country that supports and finances both the hamas group and the lebanese

group hezbollah. the iranian foreign minister did not say it directly, but said: "if the israeli military enters the gas, then expect an attack by the militants of the lebanese hezbollah group." the threat of an attack by hezbollah has been talked about since the beginning of this. since the beginning of the conflict , israel borders lebanon, and since the beginning of the war with hamas , there have been skirmishes in the gaza strip on that border. israel is evacuating residents of three dozen settlements near border due to the threat of shelling. bbc correspondent anna foster tells what is happening on the border between israel and lebanon. the family says goodbye to the soldier who died at the hands of hamas. einar is still in mourning for his nephew and there is no time to fuss, the woman is packing, we have to leave , it is dangerous to stay here, we can't stay here anymore, the explosions are very dangerous, it is

really scary, i have to leave here, i packed my bags and i am ready to go, residents of almost 30 israeli towns and villages located along the border with lebanon, had to evacuate, even the government doesn't know what will happen... mr. hans, bbc, are you evacuating people away from the border, do you think there will be a war with hezbollah here in the north? i hope not for them, but we are preparing, thank you very much. but most of the people here did not wait for calls to evacuate, because the shooting increases every day, so they have to flee. you see how empty it is, that's how the settlements along the northern border line look now. people cannot be guaranteed safety. this is a grove playground - one of the few here remained there are usually a lot of people here at this time, especially when it's vacation time. it's

lunch time, there's no one here at all. about 80 or 90% of liman left, it's a shame. it pains me to see this place like this. despite the fact that tens of thousands of people are leaving here, the shelling here does not stop, and despite all the diplomacy, not words, but actions will show whether a conflict will break out on this border. and about diplomacy, the chancellor of germany, olaf scholz, came to tel aviv. he also discussed with israeli prime minister netanyahu the delivery of humanitarian aid to gas sector. before that, scholz was in berlin. received the king of jordan and warned hezbollah and iran not to interfere in the conflict between israel and hamas, and the president of the european commission, ursela fondern, came to tel aviv last friday, that is, such intensive diplomacy,

efforts aimed at preventing the explosion of a powder keg. and also: turkey is negotiating with hamas on the release of hostages. militants captured 199 people during the attack in israel. china is sending its envoy to the region, a lot is happening, what is happening in the gas sector itself, this a blocked area where more than 2 million people live, international organizations warn, the situation there is critical , water and food supplies are running out, earlier israel ordered the palestinians to leave the northern part of the gas sector, here it is marked on the map, this is a warning before strikes. the bbcd correspondent is in the southern part of the gaza strip. suffering and tragedy are here at every step. it doesn't matter who these people are, a doctor who is trying to get at least a few hours of sleep, or a businessman who left the gas on the spot for his business, and is now forced together to live with the family in a shelter or in a school.

if you walk around, you can see long lines of people waiting for hours for five loaves of bread, not enough to resemble the 50 people from his extended family who left with him, we also saw people trying to buy water, and she is not there israel has restored the water supply to the region and due to the lack of electricity , the generators that power the water pumping station are not working, so people are carrying water to their homes on their own. now 90% of all houses are in southern gaza, where 2/3 of the entire population lives in the gas sector, they don't have water, they have to buy it, there are big tanker trucks that drive water from other parts of the city to the center of khan yunis, it is the most densely populated, people stand in queues to collect water, the doctor of the local hospital told me , that they give patients only 300 ml of water per day, because we don't know how much longer israel will block

the border crossing. yesterday, people got hope when they heard that egypt plans to open its border at the rafah checkpoint and allow humanitarian aid to gaza. and everything changed quickly. people have realized that this is not going to happen that easily and they need to find a way to survive with the scarcity of resources, water and gasoline. the hospital says that they will run out of fuel for generators this night and will not be able to perform operations. it is the second largest city in the sector and the second largest hospital. it is this medical facility that serves 2/3 of the entire population of gaza, and it will close at midnight. and in the evening it became known that as a result of an airstrike by israeli forces on a hospital in the center of the gas sector, people died hundreds of people this is information from the palestinian authority, data. this is being clarified. meanwhile

, israel gathered tens of thousands of soldiers, tanks, and artillery near the gaza strip. what could be the complexity of a ground operation - bbc correspondent jonathan beale found out. this is who israel is currently at war with: hamas, militants who crossed the border on october 7 with the sole intention of killing women and children. for more. it was essentially a suicidal task. a shrapnel from a shell or grenade hit the left side of my head. it's hard to say from what namely, i was also shot through the finger on my left hand, and another bullet was lodged in the left side of my neck. yoav, who grew up in london, was one of the first israeli soldiers to be wounded in that war, but he would not be the last. we were asked not to show it. he says: israel is fighting an enemy unlike any

ordinary army. they are only interested in killing jews. there was no attempt to secure a retreat to their own territory. they were ready to die after completing the task, which meant killing as many people as possible and dying themselves. it's just part of their arsenal. israel shows journalists weapons captured from militants. they say this is only 20% of all the weapons that hamas has brought into israel, this is a tiny fraction of what israeli soldiers will be dealing with when they enter gaza, israel insists, many of these weapons are produced in gaza itself, what worries you is that israeli soldiers are going to be gassed and that's where the companies that make it are, i'm not afraid, the israel defense force is capable of handling everything presented in this room and even. but this is only part of what they have.

so. the densely built-up streets of gaza are a place where israel may soon fight. for hamas, this is familiar territory. it can be littered with explosive mine traps on roadsides and in a network of underground passageways and tunnels. violent street fighting can benefit defenders. hamas has another important trump card, more than 100 israeli hostages. one... the israeli, with whom he arranged a prisoner exchange in the past, again calls his contacts in the ranks of hamas, says that they are talking to him, but in a completely different tone. in the first few days they flaunted their bravery and heroism, the way they caught israel off guard, but lately the tone has changed, now they say we will fight to the death, we are not afraid of death, israel is preparing for a massive gas operation, but the invasion is often... easier in planning than in execution,

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are somewhere in the vicinity of bakhmut, we are telling the main thing. on weekdays at 9:00. greetings, you are watching svoboda life, my name is daria kudimov and further about the main thing, as of the evening of tuesday, october 17. almost a dozen destroyed helicopters, special equipment pppo system and ammunition depots. special operations forces report a successful attack on airfields in occupied berdyansk and luhansk. how could za hit military facilities and how critical are such losses for russia. re's army is losing positions south of bakhmut, the general staff reports, and ukrainian fighters are talking about decisive rounds and the indignation of the front-line soldiers, what is being said and what is the situation on the front line, details live from donetsk, how the wars in ukraine and israel are similar, and whether the destruction of hamas will mean peace in the middle

east. for the first time since the international arrest warrant. putin flew to china to meet xi jinping. what to expect from this visit. and why hungarian prime minister orbán traveled 7,000 km to meet the russian president? special operations forces confirmed the attack on the airfield in occupied berdyansk and luhansk, reporting the destruction of nine helicopters of various modifications, special equipment, anti-aircraft launcher and ammunition warehouse. in addition, there are reports of damaged airfield runways and dozens of destroyed and wounded russian soldiers. at the same time , the occupation administration neither confirms nor denies such losses. yes , the representative of the occupying power of the zaporizhzhia region. volodymyr rogov claimed that missiles were allegedly shot down near berdyansk. i will add that in the morning the russian telegram channels reported

literally one of the most serious strikes in the entire time of svo, the explosions in berdyansk were heard from four in the morning, and in luhansk the detonation continued until 11 in the morning. rfe/rl is currently unable to reconfirm these statements. writes that ukraine used atakams for the first time, the missiles were recently secretly transferred to the united states. in fact, the fact that ukrainian forces used long-range atakams missiles to attack two airfields in russian-occupied luhansk and berdyansk on the night of tuesday, as

confirmed by informed interlocutors to the newspaper, is also reported by politiko. and an aviation expert, valery romanenko joins our broadcast. mr. valery, my greetings, good evening. good evening, we will return to tatakamtsy, but let's start with these losses, because they list, among other things, nine helicopters, the pppo system, thanks to which such a scale is possible and why so much equipment was concentrated in one place? well, as for equipment in one place, here it is clear, for work, it is about 90 km from berdyansk, this is just the range for an operational airfield, that is why here at the berdyansk airfield, if... to consider it separately, then there on satellite

images all the time, somewhere starting in may, all summer, from 25 to 30 attack helicopters, well, attack and attack transport helicopters of various types, there k-52, k-58, and the eighth, were recorded like that, that 's why it these are the places where the russians use so-called mobile anti-tank weapons, as soon as we start an offensive, some active actions, attack helicopters with a large number of anti-tank missiles launch from there, and start to bombard them with these missiles our, our armored vehicles, but what kind of destroyed helicopters can i talk about, you said a little that these are attack helicopters, how critical are such losses for the russian army, is it possible to estimate? well in general in berdyansk there are, well, let’s take berdyansk, once again, so there are units

there, of the 55th, a separate russian helicopter regiment, these are mi-28, mi-35 attack helicopters, and mi-8 attack and transport helicopters, as well as here, berdyan was mentioned as a base for k-52 helicopters, which means that there are also some a unit, well, no more than a squadron of the 39th separate helicopter regiment with k-52 helicopters. uhu, all these regiments, they have already suffered quite serious losses, there, well, at least , those lying on the ground, so there, i am not talking about chornobayivka, yes, where there, both regiments got their full share, and those only those that were shot down in the air, these are six or seven machines each, mostly together with the crew, well , that's it, but that's all... anyway, well, the losses for the russians are not critical yet, because

the russians still have almost every type of helicopter over 100, it remains, mr. valery, let's take another look, we have at our disposal the footage published by the media, they are allegedly from the berdyansk airfield, and now they will show us how similar it is to reality, well, because at the moment we are talking about the fact that there is no information to verify opportunities, and we only use those data that are published either in russian telegrams, channels, or from the occupied territories, does it look like a place of defeat, so to speak, is it already ammunition that can be so chambered, what is possible from these videos, is it possible any preliminary conclusions? of these in the video, you can say that there is a fire at night, the flame is so orange, yes, it is very similar to how the aviation fuel itself burns, it is an attack on helicopters that are refueled, because usually, combat vehicles are already on the airfields

refueled, ready for landing, or maybe you could also hit the refuelers, they would also bark so brightly, well, there are nine helicopters in total at two airfields, well, it depends on the number of missiles used, so to speak, because one missile is three, you won't destroy two or three helicopters, if there were a storm shadow, then there would be no such losses, because usually, planes, helicopters, they are at a distance from each other, they are located on airfields, very often during hostilities they are in caponiers. that is why i think that some kind of missiles were used here, well, something of the vilkha type, so our modernized ones, such as tornado complexes, could be used there, well, something like salvo missile systems, because in general, the information was about missiles, about rockets, but although it was clearly visible how

the russians tried to hit uga for something, hymars does not reach such a distance, there are more 90 km from the battle line, this is definitely not hymars, this is not brimstone, so , mr. valery, but if i still touch on this version of the protikam, which is already written about by the western media, and actually the russian public publishes photos, on in which the markings of these m74 missiles are clearly visible, sub-munitions that are used specifically in atakam cluster missiles. and actually according to the satellite photos that we saw, well, it looks very similar to the fact that there is such a large scale, and such a large area of ​​damage, as far as you are able to believably damage too, oh you, mzhm 140, yes, oh, yes, as far as i know, well, yes, mzhm-140 is very similar to takoms, oh, but well, i don't know,

so without official reports, i'm afraid to say something. because you yourself understand, if the armed forces do not report about it, then they have reasons for it, yes, as soon as mr. spokespersons say, everything is a victory, then we will say that we received atakms, and by the way, if there were cluster combat units, then they could really hit a whole group of helicopters so well, because an attack with a cluster warhead, it covers a couple of hectares. ugh. ugh, and it covers tightly, and the ammunition there is very interesting, they will immediately set the helicopter on fire, there are double , double-double-action ammunition, they are both cumulative and fragmentary, that is, they would punch a hole, after that, fuel spills out, well, if they punched a hole , there they will definitely

get into the helicopters through the fuel tank, whether it's an outboard one or something like that, after that. the ricochet of a fragment , a spark is knocked out, it means a concrete fragment, yes, and you have such a bright one, it means fireworks in the middle of the night, well, if we assume that the general staff will confirm to us that there were attacks after all, and we talked a lot about the fact that they can change the situation on the battlefield, what opportunities do they open up for aviation? for aviation, none, these are not aviation missiles, but it allows us not to take risks... but to hit directly from the ground, and i would be very pleased if these missiles were not only, let's say, not only with cluster ammunition, because with cluster ammunition - these are very old missiles, we really need them for strikes on airfields, because atakams she, atakms, excuse me, so this is a missile that cannot be refueled on the final segment, on

the terminal segment, yes, the way they do it... cruise missiles, storm shadow and skype, it does not see, it flies by coordinates, and therefore the accuracy of the first models of attacks, there is plus or minus 100 m. ugh, flight range, here are the possibilities for the armed forces, 50 km, both airfields, she can take off there and fly back, say that i hit everything, well, this is a joke of course, so , it is a double range, that is, from the line of combat to luhansk, approximately there there are about 120, a little more than kilometers, heard, mr. valery, thank you very much for finding the opportunity to join the broadcast, valery ramenenko, an expert in the aviation industry, was in direct contact with us, thank you, well, today is a guest in the studio we have yuriy matsarskyi, a journalist, and now a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, yuriy, good evening, my greetings, thank you