[000:00:00;00] is aimed at preventing such a development that could lead to a significant regional conflict, as well as international efforts, including the united states, they are aimed at ensuring that, with the help of other arab countries that can act as mediators, the same qatar , where the leadership, the political leadership of hamas is located, and which previously also sponsored the hamas... movement in the kaza to help free the israeli hostages that had been taken by the terrorists, and in a way, to trade off the scale, well, to reduce the scale of israel's military operation, currently israel is not negotiating with terrorists, but of course all these diplomatic efforts have

pros and cons and significant efforts that the international community is currently trying to make around the situation, aimed at de-escalation, again the question is it possible to remove hamas from power in gaza without large-scale military operations and establishment of control, thank you very much, mr. vyacheslav, thank you for joining, thank you for your professional, cool comments, and vyacheslav ryhav was with us, a historian, a member of the expert council of the center for civil liberties, we. we will now go on a short break, then another guest will join us, a guest will join and we will already look at something under a different cat on the same problem, stay with us, the worldview continues, stay with espresso. damn stairs , my legs can't walk anymore, wait, i'll catch up, there's no health, and what kind of health is there in the sixth decade, and i thought so until i tried herovital. gerovital plus

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explosive, this is the terrorist organization hamas, anna zharova is with us, co-founder of the non-profit organization israel friends of ukraine, ms. anno, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, svyatoslav, well, it's already 10 days today. as there is a war going on in israel, what can we say now, is there a vision, or at least some options are outlined, that this war can be ended in a certain way, with certain actions, how long will it take, because you know, in ukraine, when after the full-scale invasion, there was such a character, an arrest officer, who constantly talked about two or three weeks, it even became a meme , although, well, no one knew whether we would survive from kyiv, they would leave, well, the russian army is huge, the state is huge and well, nobody did not want to believe. in a long, great war, but she happened what is the current situation in israel, and what can be said from what is happening both on the battlefield and in the political, diplomatic , let's say so, intrigues, please, well, first of all, in israel now they do not comment on

how long this war is will continue, there are several tasks that need to be solved, the first is to bring back everyone, the people who are now in captivity and many civilians are now talking about numbers from 199 to 250 people together with the military, so that is the first task, the next task is really make it so that greater threats on the border with the palestinian authority we didn't have autonomy, and you can, well , you can comment on it in different ways, analyze what it has, well, which one? it matters, but it is something that both the government and the army have emphasized, that hamas must be destroyed. we understand as a civilian, i as a citizen of israel, that this goal, it is very

difficult, because we are talking about a terrorist organization with a network around the world, with the support of countries like russia, like iran, we have been in the north for several days , shelling, and there were even casualties among the military and among civilians from the lebanese side, and there were several shelling even from syria, israel is located, israel is a very small country, i keep repeating that we are like the kherson region, the entire territory of israel, and therefore, let's put it this way, react and - the percentage is yes, the danger here is very great, from the point of view of everything the population, it doesn't matter where you live in israel now, in the center or in the south or in the north, everyone is at risk now, plus our

geographical position, we have no friends in this region, we have, shall we say, a peace treaty, yes with jordan and egypt, now today... a visit is expected tomorrow of the president of america, john biden, and well, everywhere there is a lot of talk, what does it mean, why is he coming, before that there was a visit, the secretary of america, blinken, who was even present in the cabinet, in the military cabinet, yes, where, i don’t know, were discussed some perhaps follow-up actions, and that's why no one is giving, well, let's say this, forecasts, when it will end , we understand that we as a civilian, a civil society, yes, we are now reacting, reacting

to all needs, to evacuation, which, which need to be done with that started in the north, support, elderly people, people who don't speak hebrew, there are... veripatriots who came from ukraine and after the war, first the war between ukraine and russia, there are refugees here, ukrainian, who also don't speak hebrew and they... need, let's say, help, that's why there are many questions and tasks, urgent, and they are dealing with this now, and when it will end, no one knows, yesterday the head of the general security service of israel, shabak, well, his name is not shabak , this is the service of israel shabak ronenbar, took responsibility for what happened on october 7, to what extent, well, this is an important political decision, you know, i think there i wrote a post about it on facebook, a dispute began,

what about what to someone, what he admitted, here the question is that in any war there are always mistakes, there is no wars, where everyone does everything right, as churchill said, that in war there are always mistakes , and if something goes well, then it is well, that is, in war, you can't plan something, if something goes well, it's not because you planned , because it is either a mistake or a coincidence, so this and that happens, but this is responsibility and the ability, the courage to take responsibility and correct mistakes at the beginning of the war, and not to say, as in ukraine, some people said that we, forgive me, screwed up the south, well, but no one knows what happened there, let's do it later let's figure it out somehow, the israelis are already finding out the mood of society, what they write on social networks, maybe what they comment on on television, on youtube, what people say, because again, israel is a small country, everyone hears everyone there , and should we now find out who must change something in the political leadership, well, there are no elections now, but, well, or wait until... the war ends, and then give appropriate assessments and express

confidence or distrust in the authorities, which was at the helm, in fact, on october 7, please ah, yes, ronen barak, he admitted , by mistake, not even a mistake, but that shabak did not do what was expected of them to prevent such a tragedy from happening, also a few days ago, our main spoke on this issue commander, defense of israel, but those people from whom society expects some what, well, what reactions, yes, apart from the populist ones, let's say this, sentences that we will destroy everyone, we will defeat everyone, this is the main narrative that we hear today, and there is a lot of criticism, and there are even deputies who come

for funerals, now in israel, it is already known that there are more than 1,300 families who lost their relatives, and therefore every day in israel there are several funerals, and representatives of the government, let's say, come to these funerals, and there are representatives of the coalition today a day that they simply drive away, that they don't want to see, that they don't they allow, for example, people who were evacuated from the south to the hotels where they are now, from those kibbutzim and settlements that survived this massacre, and it has already begun, well, we hear from the authorities that those responsible will be found, but now, let's go, we need to win in this war and in social networks, when someone, let's say this

, from scraps and people who are socially active express their positions, some criticism, come to them, say, not in time, no, no do it, we'll figure it out later, but there is a question, it's not about a mistake, so what are you saying, yes, in a war, when the war has already started, there can be mistakes and some, i don't know, some failures, yes, and tactical failures, but we are here...' we are talking about , in hebrew there is such a word migdal, about the failure of the national level, eh, now, and this is the feeling in israeli society, there is a lot of help to each other, but there is no more trust in the authorities, it is just a total loss of trust and all that is said now us, the minister, yes, the defense minister of israel, or even... the prime minister, all the things that they, let's say

yes, they appeal to society, well, there is very little trust and faith in these things. i'll be with us for literally five minutes, but i'll have time to ask two questions, you'll answer them then, first , you know, it's worth understanding, for example, my grandmother on my father's side was jewish, but i'm not jewish on my mother's side, yes, that's why i can't feel completely that and even more, i don't live in israel, although i have been there. but i cannot fully feel and understand what the israelis feel now in relation to the palestinians, i mean hamas is a terrorist organization that has captured many of its ideas and bombarded people, perhaps. did not want to be bombarded like the russians, because, because i know how ukrainians feel about the russians , as they tell us, you will have to reconcile, talk, now we don’t want to hear that, well , at least conscious ukrainians, some kind of war, they want somehow, they don’t they want to hear about reconciliation, negotiations, in general, so that there are no russians, go there, repent in the swamps so that we do not hear you, eh,

israel-palestine now after this attack, what a feeling, what an understanding of the future, a vision of the future, or now not to that at all, and no one even wants to talk about it, let's... let's finish with hamas , then, then, let the pain subside somehow, what are the feelings in relation to those people who are actually now on the other side of the barricades, not the barricade, but the battlefield, yes, this is a very difficult question, because it is necessary to understand the historical context, and let's say, the conditions in which the country of israel explains, and regarding the palestinians themselves, i think that today, there are no, well, there are voices about that what israel is doing now, yes, and the bomb, well, destroys infrastructure, and there are civilian casualties population, and the world is already criticizing israel for such a position, but

it seems to me that in israel today, this policy is supported, because they understand that it is not, they do not ask the question, at what cost... let's be honest , we will say, that's why that now hamas has, as i said, up to 20,250 hostages, i don't know how to say it in ukrainian , among them hostages, hostages, among them babies , among them elderly people, among them children, and 12, 13, 14 years old , pregnant women, well , you just need to understand the scale of the disaster that. israel as a country, as society is going through that trauma right now because everyone has a family member who has died or is injured or someone is now there and you just can't call anymore, you're just afraid to call someone because you'll hear

another story of that , how who lost who, and this is the mood that israelis do not have today... very well, this is a very empathetic nation, they always help, always, regardless of, let's say, different views in society between, more right-wing or left-wing, but all the same , as if ready to help, today i have a feeling that cannot be asked, empathy, it has moved to the background, now, how to heal wounds, how simple...' to get out of this national trauma with so many dead and wounded and hostages and now we only think and can only think about ourselves and care only about myself. and finally, very briefly, this is the 10th day of the war, israel is already, already

fully living in the war, are there any people, territories, any segments of life where there is no war, well, here we are at all, this is not about us , we are all here. ok don't touch it i know israel you can drive in a car in 5 hours, yes, i used to drive like that, so everything is very close there , but still, is israel all at war, it is all at war, some are mobilized, others are medics, others help there, fourth somewhere, children are being looked after, but all of them are fighting, all of israel is at war, and yesterday we went to haifa, there to help collect first-aid kits, already for our military, and a lot of military equipment on the roads. that is, you also have volunteers collecting first aid kits for the military, because we think that this is only the case in ukraine, but i see what, no, it is necessary, you see, we are collecting now, because in israel at the same time more than 350,000 people were mobilized, yes, they are somewhere in warehouses, they are, well, from the point of view

of building all the logistics and providing for everyone, at the same time this it's simply impossible, that's why those people who are now these guys, who are now waiting to enter the gas, well, enter the gas for a ground operation, or in the north, where actions with hezbollah have already begun, and where it is needed now, and not in, for example, three days, yes, how will the delivery be, volunteers do it, for israel it is also the war, it is unexpected, everything that is happening in israel now is a total , let's say, a total surprise, and therefore all , let's say, systems, they are now being readjusted, but it takes time and we don't have time. thank you very much, ms. anna, take care, good luck, anna zharova, co-founder of a non-profit organization, israeli friends of ukraine, from

israel, talked about the israeli war, its roots, about the causes and consequences, well, in any war, someone will win, as always it happens, one way or another, someone has to win, israel was attacked, that's a lot a difficult question, and the fact that we talked for an hour, we did not answer all the questions, even approximately, because in ukraine it is somewhat more unambiguous. here, well, everywhere it is unambiguous and ambiguous, but one people fights for its freedom, for the right to exist and live, others want to kill it, that's all, this is the ambiguity of war, and the world is coming to the stage where, actually, how kaznyahu, don't teach us morality, everyone wants to survive and win, we will monitor, we will comment, we will talk, that's why we work here. we are looking for 16-year-old kostyantyn chervov, who disappeared in the first day of full-scale war. the guy

lived in the kherson region in the kakhovsky district in the city of tavriysk, and imagine, as of february 24, 2022 , there was no news about him. therefore , i very much ask everyone to look carefully at konstantin's photo. he looks 15-16 years old. he has dark brown hair and gray-green eyes. if suddenly someone saw the guy. or knows where he may be now, do not delay and call us immediately on the magnolia children's helpline at the short number 1163. calls from any ukrainian mobile operator free, any information is important. i also want to remind you that we are continuing the search for nine-year-old artem kholodny, who disappeared in kharkiv oblast in september 2022, to help find the boy. his mother asked. imagine that a woman has not seen or heard from her son for more than a year. i am appealing to everyone who may

have seen or know any information about my child, my son, cold, artem andriyovych. if anyone has seen or heard any information and can provide it, i am asking you to do so, because it is a mother's heart is also breaking up, the fact is that the parents of... artem kholodny are divorced and live separately. it so happened that when the war started, the boy was with his father in the city of kupyansk, in the kharkiv region. on the third day of the full-scale invasion, the city was completely occupied, and later communication was lost there. for almost six months, mrs. elena did not have any news about her son and only in september 2022, she received a short message from him in viber. it was september somewhere. september of last year , the 22nd. let me remind you that in september last year the soldiers of the ukrainian armed forces liberated kharkiv oblast from the occupiers

, and it was during this period that mrs. elena's son got in touch. of course, the woman tried to call artyom. i wrote him more than one message in response, but all attempts turned out to be useless. the connection with the child mysteriously broke off again, and it is still unknown where artem kholodny is now. therefore, your help is very important. look at the photo again and remember the boy's face. he is a very active boy, fair-haired, with such a lithe physique, he should go now fifth grade, smooth, gray-blue eyes, active, kind, good boy. if suddenly someone saw artem cold, or knows where he may be now, do not delay and immediately call us on the hotline of the magnolia children's search service at the short number until 4:30 p.m. calls from any ukrainian mobile operator are free, if suddenly there is no possibility call, write to

the chatbot of the child search service in telegram, any information is important. i have told only two stories of missing children. in general, from since the beginning of the war, we have received more than a thousand appeals for help in the search. fortunately, the vast majority of children have already been found, but the fate of many remains unknown. this especially applies to temporarily occupied territories, where the work of the police is practically paralyzed, from where it is impossible to leave and there are problems with communication. sometimes people who cannot find their own children do not even know what to do or where to turn. if you suddenly find yourself in a similar situation and have no idea how to act, call the short number 1163 or write to the chatbot of the service search for children in telegram. here you will be provided. all necessary consultation. in addition, everyone who sees me now can already help in the search for missing children. take just

a minute of your time and visit the magnolia children's tracing website. here you can view all the photos of the missing, maybe you will recognize someone and eventually help to find them. we have created a resource through which you can report any crime against a child. in any city, at any time. just go to the site and let us know, and we'll get it up and running all possible mechanisms for punishing the criminal. stopprime ua. congratulations, tonight the armed forces of ukraine struck the enemy's airfields near the temporarily occupied luhansk and berdyansk. as a result of the attack , russian helicopters and equipment were damaged, this was reported by the ukrainian special operations forces. according to the latest data

, nine helicopters, special vehicles, and launchers were destroyed in berdyansk and luhansk. air defense, ammunition storage, airfield runways were damaged. on the video, you can now see the explosion in berdyansk. this is probably for the whole time, since february 24, 22 well, this is the biggest attack by air defense forces, the russians. but you won't find out anything about this on russian tv, because they are simply silent about it, and judging by everything, this is not such a single moment, but this. literally now this is a new way of the russians, a new way of their coverage of combat operations , that is, in principle, they do not report bad news, they try to avoid it, they do not talk about the fact that there are any problems in their army, they say how well they are doing in the offensive, somewhere there, and everything in them is generally there

it's just great, well, also, what you can see this week on russian tv, in general, there putin and orban went to pay homage to sizenpinho in beijing, and accordingly this will now be the biggest such news, which will be discussed there in the next few days, non - stop, practically fill the entire ether, because the russians have such , you know, stories about how they supposedly share the world with china, how it is possible to share the world with china , except for the far east of russia, it is unclear, because this is most likely russians and shines, they will simply divide their far east with china, china will go there and that will be the end of it in the end. well, but yes. another important topic discussed in them is what is happening in israel and in the gas sector, and here, of course, there were some interesting nuances that came to the surface. well, that is, the russians who escaped fled from russia

during the first, well, the second. stage of the war, they suddenly all started writing about the fact that yes, they are there with israel and exactly what the russians would like all these people to write about the russian army, and this directly caused some, you know, pity and coldness in simonyan on one of the airs of salovov, let's see these, i am simply amazed, to the bottom of my soul, by their posts, their phrases, like makarevich's phrase, i wish luck to our fighters , and at first i was surprised by our fighters, is he really talking about avdeevka, is he really talking about rabotin, about kupensk, is he really referring to these guys of ours, over there on the front line, no, he is referring to guys in the tshale,

you know, and that's how we did it in one day explained why all these years are like this... here we are, as it just caught fire in israel , everything went somewhere, that's all, we are for peace, no war, all pacifism, all principles to one, somewhere somewhere, the principles with which they were hiding, these so-called values, it turned out that the values ​​were simply covering the natural hatred and disgust for russia, these so-called values, which do not exist, where are they, like this man, good luck to our fighters, he is for peace, and the fighters, they fight, they go to war, well, other fighters, they are from us, from everyone nauseous, such a sudden surprise that they, and in general everyone from the russians, those who are now running on russian television, are sick , well, this is not surprising, this is the normal state of a normal person, when he is sick of simonyan and solovyov, just what else maybe she has, and

it also suddenly surprised them that there is a difference between fighters and fighters, between... how