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[000:00:00;00] we want to bring it to an end, and i am very glad, in my party, the leader of my party, gdor luberman, said that the goal of this war should be the unequivocal destruction of hamas as an organization that threatens the state of israel, hamas is not only the gaza sector, it is also in the west on the shores of samaria, the hamasites are in southern lebanon , with the support of hezbollah, including actively trying to provoke us to open a second front, and like any war that is being waged, we do not disclose there what we will do for... the day after tomorrow or there after 2 days, but that questions that concern some humanitarian things or a temporary ceasefire there, although this is also not true , because the head of the press service of the israel defense forces, brigadier general daniel agarry , just said that there is no humanitarian ceasefire, that is, there is the requests that we receive, in particular, for example, there was a request to resume water supplies to the southern part of the gas sector, here you just need to understand, your tv viewers too, to tell
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them that israel... should not be involved in the gas situation at all, that is israel came out of gas in 2005, but nevertheless electricity supplies continued, water supplies continued, and now our task is to completely cut off, you know, this umbilical cord, as they say here in israel from the gas sector, so that not only will hamas not be in gaza , but also so that we are not responsible for the situation in gas, let egypt take over this function, there is a lot of speculation on the topic, we have agreed, it is as if you are negotiating there now, there are no agreements, but negotiations are always because we understand that and fate of the kidnapped 200 citizens who are there, only israeli citizens, i emphasize, that is, 199 israeli families received information this morning, well, not all 199, but today there was a statement that 199 families of israelis received notification that their loved ones are in in the hands of hamas, that is, not where the identification of bodies is still carried out on the base of the army ravinat, namely in the gas sector, so it is also
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taken into account, eh, we for our part believe that there should be no humanitarian corridors, on hamas should be maximum, if hamas holds back our citizens, then why should we now make some humanitarian concessions, so i cannot tell you about any agreements, i can only tell you my position, the position, in particular, of our party, the leader of my party , which we voice. but about the negotiations, you said, the negotiations are ongoing, right? no, no, do not negotiate with hamas, i am saying that if there is any, any dialogue with our partners, it is clear that there is a dialogue. is being conducted with the usa, a dialogue is being conducted with egypt, we have a peace treaty with egypt, we, israel and egypt coordinate our actions , we always, always, when something happens in the gas sector, egypt is the first to act as such an intermediary, still trying, well, at least to understand the situation, because egypt has the same border with gaza as we do, well, i will give you, yuri , look, i will give you an example, between gaza and egypt there is a checkpoint rafiyah, okay, this is a checkpoint
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that is located on the border and for example , for a long time hamas did not want to open this checkpoint from its side to enter the territory egypt passed through, for example, foreign citizens who are in the territory of the sector, we on our side were ready, for example, to withdraw foreign citizens to the territory of israel, but what hamas did, not only that in the early days of the war, when it started, when hamas started war, he first of all attacked the israeli employees who worked at these checkpoints, there were a few of them that are now closed, there is eres in the north, kerem shalom, a little south, eh, these people, these people, our citizens, our dead citizens, were engaged in the fact that they let through humanitarian cargo that arrived at the port of ashdod, ashdod is a southern israeli city , located somewhere 20-25 kilometers north of the gaza strip, you see, for hamas there are no civilians there, hamas uses them now as a human shield, hamas , for example, prevents the residents of gaza from moving south, because there are,
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for example, unra schools in the southern part of gaza, unra is an agency. no one is shooting at palestinian refugees, in these schools, in these schools they receive in schools, there are some medicines, water, food, that is, the israeli army said: everyone who remains today in the city of gaza, and the responsibility for their lives, for their future is borne by hamas, because in that case, when at that moment , when the ground operation starts, no one will be watching there, and why did you stay in the gaza sector, you were given enough days to leave, but hamas is preventing this migration to the south, there hamas are actually being covered by their own people as a human shield, now you know, the discussion is going on very broad, some say, here we have in israel, where they say, yes, they voted for hamas, they supported hamas, because there were no elections as such, hamas took control of the gas sector 16 years ago without elections, but the majority of the population supports hamas anyway, why should we then divide the population of gaza between hamas, well, first of all, because we are not animals , let's start with that, because we are a legal state, we understand that peaceful citizens
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should not die as a result. .. of that hamas creates, so we try to maneuver, i'll tell you a secret, it's very difficult to maneuver after we haven't buried all the 1,400 killed israeli citizens, it's very difficult and... and in israeli society they look at it in a completely different way today among the civilians of gaza, many generally believe that there are no civilians in gaza, if you support hamas and you supported him there for 16 years and actually recognized his rule, what kind of peaceful citizens are you, but nevertheless israel, as i already said, takes everything into account these are the questions with our american partners, with egypt, with any other country that wants to be an intermediary , maybe give us some information about the kidnapped citizens of israel who are now in the sector? mr. yegen, could you please tell me, there was also information yesterday that israel, i'm sorry, iran threatened that if israel starts a ground operation in the gaza sector, then iran can interfere in all this, as far as it is
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it can be serious what iran can present now, is it dangerous, well, first of all, iran it is not the first time that israel threatens the state, let's start with this, and its demand to intervene or not to intervene is really completely uninteresting. to us, because this is the only state today, which is a member of the un and which openly talks about its goal to destroy, as they say, the zionist formation, not even the word israel is mentioned, so one of them is that we are at war with iran, yes, we there is a confrontation with iran, we are at war with iran on the territory of syria, a lot has been said about this in recent days, because iran supports and hamas, and islamic jihad, is generally a proxy group in the gas sector, and of course the shiite group hezbollah, which is recognized as a terrorist group in many countries of the world, so iran understands the situation, that on the one hand, they somehow support hamas, threaten with a second front , but on the other hand, we must pay tribute to our american partners, who said that if hamas and hezbollah and iran try to intervene, then of course america will not
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stand aside and will not watch how we conduct ourselves a war on two fronts, although israel is capable of waging a war on two fronts, that is, i am not throwing slogans here now, i am speaking in fact , yes, that is, israel is an independent state with a strong army, with strong forces, the statement of iran is not. will be considered seriously in the context of our actions in gaza. moreover, it is my assessment that if we just bring the operation in gaza to the total destruction of hamas, then this will be a good lesson for iran, first of all, because the next in line will be hezbollah, there were various reports that the alleged iranian the head of midas made a voyage to the middle east here. there is no need to comment on the statement of the country that considers israel as the first target for destruction. that's why we have until the seventy-ninth year, we had excellent relations with iran, iran was a strategic ally of israel until the ayatollahs came, until the islamic revolution came, which they are now spreading all over the world, in the middle east, other countries are also suffering from it, here
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azerbaijan, for example, is a state that is located like a sandwich, you know, between russia and iran, they are always trying to spread their islamic ideas of the islamic revolution to this country, i was in azerbaijan a month and a half ago, i heard from my colleagues... in the azerbaijani parliament, how unhappy they are with the influence that iran is trying to spread all these ideas of radical islam and so on, so iran is the most dangerous state that destabilizes the situation in the middle east, that supports terrorist organizations, that supplies them with weapons, and we are leading a war on the territory of syria, and if necessary, i think that iran will feel all our strength, so it is better than iran, their illness does not threaten israel now in these difficult days. well, the last two questions, mr. evgeny. look, i can't help but ask it, this is a question about russia, for example, in the united states of america they say that they do not see russia interfering in the course of this war, but it would be interesting to hear from you, an israeli politician, about
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what, what they say in israel itself, that's why i ask, because before, for example, the relations between putin and the prime minister of israel, benjamin netanyahu, were pretty pretty good, i would say so, but when this war started, putin somehow distanced himself from it, moreover, on the contrary, he blames israel for the fact that israel started it and on the contrary, somehow indirectly takes, takes the side of hamas itself, that's what they say in israel, does russia have such an influence? yuri , when you talk about the intervention, that is , the intervention of russia, then it is necessary to divide here, many people are dissatisfied, including me , with the reaction of the russian ministry of defense to... because the brutal attack by terrorists with the killing of peaceful citizens, children, women, and old men is on the same scale, it is just a needle, the islamic state in russia is a prohibited organization, and if today in
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russia, journalists must emphasize every time when they talk about igyls, they say, is a group banned in russia, look, let the russian diplomacy look at how in kibbutzim near the gas sector, where our soldiers later entered and carried out sweeps, they found flags of the islamic state, because some militants of the islamic state were in the gas sector, and i know that many in russia came to the middle east to fight and it is possible that many of them who were there, i don't have specific information, i'm just saying what we know, and i know many years ago, we had cases even in israel when the israeli security service detained russian-speaking citizens of israel who converted to islam and very actively promoted the ideas of the islamic state, if igil is prohibited in russia, there is a group, and hamas behaved worse than the nazis and even worse than the nazis, so why do you
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put the scales on one scale and do such things? such statements are duplicitous, so the assessment of the israelis as a whole, regarding mida’s statement, i don’t know about individual stories on russian tv channels, it is definitely negative, but it is not necessary to mix it with concrete accusations, including regarding possible interference, because it is already serious accusation, and you know, not only the military, but politicians always minimize unnecessary risks, especially when we we are talking about a country that is still considered... that still has influence in the world, so no one here wants to just throw accusations like that, we heard someone somewhere with all due respect to your, to the ukrainian media , you know, i give a lot of interviews to the media, somewhere in the ukrainian media, information leaked, so we will take it now and accuse you, let's be careful with such statements, especially when these statements are made by an official person, which i am as a deputy of nest, but if it will be proven, believe me, the special services have enough ways to find evidence, if god forbid, i am... god forbid , some connection, which you
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describe, will be proven, then believe me, the israeli authorities, the israeli leadership have a clear plan, how to convey this and with what message to convey it to the russian leadership, because these are red lines that no one crosses, but this is all speculation, so why now build an answer to that speculation for which we ourselves do not have clear evidence at this stage , a maybe it won't happen, so leave mead's attitude, it has always been, but it has never been so pro-israel, since the times of the soviet union, and then since the times of russia, here, and what concerns the active intervention of the united states, now we see , how the americans are helping us, well, this is the relationship between washington and moscow, it is no longer ours, not our level, let them figure it out themselves, our task now is to protect our citizens, and to bring the operation to the end to show the whole world that israel is it an independent state that protects its citizens is able to... protect the future of our
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citizens, wherever it may be, in the north, in the south, or in the very, or i don't know, in judea , samaria, or on the border with the gas sector. mr. yevhen, i wish you, your country to finish everything you started, i wish you victory, it was yevhen sova, a politician, a member of the israeli knesset. so, before you introduce a new guest and a new topic, let me take a look at our facebook page. 1146 people are watching, it was added, thank you to everyone who watches us, not only on facebook, but also in on the air, at least where we haven't been shut down by the current authorities from the air, please put your likes, write your comments, it's very important for us, we need to hear what you think, but it's also important to promote as a youtube channel, and in the network, in the complex algorithm of youtube, the more. the more likes, the more comments, the more
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people will have the opportunity to watch us. well, now there is one more topic, important, i would say, a very important topic for ukrainians, it is the parliamentary elections in poland that took place on the eve. why is it important? and because recently, the relations between ukraine and poland somehow cooled down, if, for example, at the beginning. war, and in the end, even a year after the start of the war, we saw such , friendly, very friendly relations, but lately, because of the ukrainian grain, because of certain statements, these relations have cooled down a little, what will happen after the elections, that's what i'm talking about i want to talk to my next guest, this is dariusz materniak, polish expert on international issues, head of the poland-ukraine center, mr. dariusz, greetings, good day, good day, congratulations, i thank you very much. thank you for joining the program
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, please tell me, well, yesterday we saw the results of the exit poll immediately after the election, and according to these results, the law and justice party, the ruling law and justice party, the party, the opposition party, the opposition party wins , donald tusk , not much, but will lose, but i read that if she agrees with other parties that also lost in this election, but if donald tusk agrees with these parties, then it may turn out that the winners, that is, right and fair. not get a majority in parliament, how realistic is this option? well, it must be said, in fact, that this is a very real option at the moment, because about a year and a half ago, there were very big discussions between the parties,
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i.e., the horoma coalition, the leftists of the road, whether to create one electoral list, or whether each should go separately , should it be... that a coalition should be formed, which all points to this, will have a majority in the polish sev. mr. dariush, let's give two options i would like to consider, i would like to talk now about the mutual relations between poland and ukraine, in the event that the oppositionists win, how
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the relations between poland and ukraine can change, this is the first, and to the second, and in the event that, after all, law and justice remain with to the authorities will they change their attitude towards ukraine, which is now quite cold? i think that there is probably enough here, we have enough, so to speak, a comfortable situation, because in fact, even these cold relations at that moment, which we have seen lately, in the first place are disputes about the port of ukraine to poland, then i would say that this was probably some such case during
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the election campaign, here ... one way or another, the strategic interest of poland remains the support of ukraine, and that is how it was before the elections, this is how the elections will be, and i am not here i see the possibility that there would be some other option from our side, and that is great, i am very grateful to our polish friends, the polish authorities , for how they started to help us ukrainians at the beginning of the war, as during the war, as you continue to help us now , and please tell me, but inside the very... what is this interesting situation, for example, once again, if the opposition led by donald tusk comes to power, the president still remains from the ruling party, law and justice andrzej duda, please tell me how much
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it can be within the polish political community, well, i will not talk about the split, but about some problems, some problems, well, of course, the opposition will probably have, here a certain... task to overcome this veto, that is , i think that here it will be necessary simply, if the opposition will create a government if changed the government, the opposition must negotiate with the president in order to be able to pass certain laws, it has, in my opinion,
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at the moment it has a fairly high chance of success, this is because andrzej duda, he now has a second , his second term, his second term, shared with the european union in poland, how will things change after the elections? well, there is also a very, very interesting situation here, we have to keep in mind that after these eight years,
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which is first of all, if we are talking about the issue of justice reform in poland, it is actually the last, taky momenty, że this very hostry superczki, at this moment also, if you believe the declarations, representatives, leaders of the opposition parties, sometimes it happens as for hungary, as for this country that has problems, that has very strong conflicts with the european commission and
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with the european parliament, now this is changing and it will of course have a positive impact on poland's foreign policy also in the eastern dimension of this policy, that is, in relation to ukraine and other countries of eastern europe. well, again, let's go back, you are already talking about ukraine we remembered once again, let's return to ukraine once again. please tell me. and poland gave ukraine a lot of weapons to continue the war, there were statements that there will be less of these weapons now, is it true, of course, this failure is less, and it will be less, it is very simple, because in fact poland actually gave out of its own resources, but almost everything that could be given, what
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was possible, we need... i said at the beginning, it is this support, one way or another, it is our strategic interest. i thank you for this strategic interest, for this
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support, i thank ordinary poles, i thank the government of poland, and the last question for you is about ordinary poles, and has their attitude towards supporting ukraine changed? i think the best thing to say here, how it changed or not, is the result
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of the confederation party, in this is very good for us and for ukraine as well, it is really very good for us, for ukrainians, and of course for you poles mr. dariusz, i thank you very much for participating in today's program, it was dariusz, dr. dariusz materniak, polish expert on international issues, head of the poland center, ukraine. so, as you can see, today in the program world during the war there was a lot of talk about three topics: nato, israel and poland's support for ukraine after the parliamentary elections that took place. the past, the past that happened yesterday, as we can see that the support will continue, well, that should conclude today's program,
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see you in a week on saturday. on monday, next monday at the usual time for all of us, there will be new guests, there will be new topics, but it will be interesting as always, my name is yuriy fizer, see you soon, congratulations, we are looking for this girl, her name is angelina zavatska, she is 17 years old, she has disappeared. in the city of kherson, it happened at the end of 2022, unfortunately, the exact date of the girl's disappearance is unknown, so it is possible that even before the liberation of kherson, she could have been taken to the territory of russia. of course, this is only an assumption, and angelina can be located either on the territory of ukraine, or, for example, on the temporarily occupied part of the kherson region. so i ask everyone who sees this video to look as closely as possible into
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the girl's face. if you know at least something about an' zavadska, do not delay and immediately report to our hotline by dialing the short number 11630. if you do not have the opportunity to call, you can always write to us on the website or to the chatbot of the children's search service in telegram. also, i really ask you to repost this video. perhaps one of your friends or acquaintances will recognize angelina and help you find her or learn at least some information about her. do not remain indifferent and give it a try. let's try to find angelina zavadska. in general, after a full-scale invasion of the detective service children, thousands of missing persons have been reported and many boys and girls disappear during the occupation. of course, for obvious reasons, the search process in territories not controlled by ukraine is very complicated. in particular, due to the lack of communication and the paralyzed work of the police and services for children. however
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, general advice if you have a missing child in occupied territory. next: if possible, by any means available, contact the police or magnolia children's services and report the child missing with any information known to you that may help in the search. collect data about the child, write down his full name, date of birth, circumstances and place of disappearance. of course, if possible, find photos of the child and inform about his special signs and circle of communication. in the future, follow. the police or the magnolia child tracing helpline. one of those girls who disappeared in the temporarily occupied territory is 16-year-old yulia kurbel. a friend of yulia turned to us for help, the girl did not want to talk on camera, but in a private conversation she told some details that may be important in the search. so, yulia kurbel disappeared in the city of
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seyeronetsk, luhansk region. at the beginning of the war, at first yulia kept a secret, but in march 2022, when severe shelling began in severonetsk, the connection with the girl was cut off, and since then , unfortunately, there has been no news about her. we also know the exact address where yulia kurbel lived, tseverodonetsk, 117 gagarina street, here is the actual photo of the house where yulia lived, and now i am addressing first of all the residents of occupied north donetsk. if you suddenly see this program, please come to the address: and ask the residents of this house about 15-year-old yulia kurbel, whether she still lives there or where she might be with whom now? if you find out at least something about the fate of yulia kurbel, please inform us immediately on the free hotline of the child tracing service at the short number 1163. however, at the same time, there is a very high probability that yulia is no longer in
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severonetsk, especially at the beginning of march. when connected broke up with his girlfriend, an evacuation was carried out in severo-donetsk civilian population, and perhaps yuli and her parents managed to leave for another region or even abroad. so i'm asking everyone, please look at the face of julia kurbel, she is 16 years old, she has light hair and light eyes. if you know anything about yulia or where she might be now, call us on the hotline 116.30, calls are free from all mobile operators. we have created a resource where you can report any crime against a child, anywhere, anytime, just go to the site and report and we'll all possible mechanisms for punishing the criminal,
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