[000:00:00;00] for the state system and for state administration as a whole, i am worried about this more than the inconvenience it will create for me personally or for my child, i think that there are certain public positions around where there will definitely always be vacancies , and there are many who want to hire her, it's someone like an adviser, the president's office, a deputy, the head of the president's office, recently, by the way, there was an interesting moment when yermak gave a written assignment to shmigalev. that is, we said about this that, in principle, this provision is about a mandate of the government from the president, it was even written down somewhere in some of kuchma's laws prior to the adoption of the constitution, that is, in principle it has legal validity, it is not legally void because it contradicts the constitution, well, not only that, zelskyi used it, very actively and still uses it , so now the government commission is already given by a shmygalal, well, wait, i don't know who will be the next to give

a shmygalal mandate, listen, ah, the government that adopts a resolution, a government resolution prohibiting deputies from leaving without a business trip. the government makes decisions about rules for crossing the border for people's deputies, you see, this is this, this, this is the same, yes, they have no right, well, this is the division of power into legislative and executive, in the end, in our country, the parliament appoints the government, and not the other way around, yes , well, it's a custom, it's very dangerous, actually, because, well, we 're entering such a very gray area, instead of... building strong state institutions, we, we, i think, are now somewhere on the threshold of a serious discussion , which start is worth starting, and some responsible media are starting to say that we need to decide, and here kornienko right vice-speaker, we need to decide, we are building a dictatorship with a strong president, if this is the response of society, well, okay, we will somehow do something about it, or are we still building a democracy with a parliament,

because we still have to try everywhere . on two chairs, it, it has never been successful for 30 years, it has always ended in revolutions in our country, and for sure it only foretells a catastrophe for us in the future, if we do not finally start talking about this issue and seriously discuss it, listen, i will say this , we have no choice except how to build a democratic state, because we will either build a democratic state, or ukraine as a state will not exist, why? because the support of... us with the west depends on the fact that we remain a democracy, in case the west says that ukraine is not a democracy, they will not have it for their voters, even if they geopolitically believe that it is necessary to support ukraine , they will not explain to their voters why they should allocate part of the budget of the united states, britain, germany, other western countries, but there is china, there is india, there are others

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live. kamikaze drone attacks. political analytics, objectively and meaningfully. there is no political season. exclusive interviews, reports from the hottest points of the front. freedom life frankly and impartially. you draw your own conclusions. and finally, this moment yehor checherinda is with us on the call from kyiv. yehor, we can see you already and i'm actually giving you the floor. sunny in kyiv, but a little passable. the sun is shining here in kyiv. but a little passable, ilya neskhodovskyi together with today, our well-known expert, an economist, who talks to us about the protection of small, medium-sized businesses in ukraine, and about the economy in general, i congratulate you, mr. elya, well, let's start with the fact that the day before yesterday, the ukrainian parliament, the

verkhovna rada supported the reading of the cancellation of the moratorium on business inspections in ukraine, 300, 237 votes , the deputies voted for it and the document plan' of new inspections may include payers who in the 21st year had twice as much receivables than creditors, had a level of income tax payment of less than 50% by industry and vat less than 50% by industry, whose annual income is more than uah 10 million, while the total amount of expenses is more than 75% of the amount of annual income. well, just the first readings, mr. la, you are against the introduction of return checks for small and medium-sized businesses in general. why, tell me, and what consequences will this decision of the parliament have, please , well, first of all, this is definitely not on time, for a simple reason, we had a quarantine, there were no checks, we have a war, there were no checks, and

right now, accordingly, it is returned, it is currently ungrounded, while there are allowed checks for certain categories, allowed checks for excise goods, this is alcohol, this is tobacco and this is gasoline, respectively, this is where there are very significant budget losses, for example, the study that was conducted on how much companies that sell tobacco and tobacco products do not pay, it is uah 22 billion in six months, and this is only tobacco, somewhere around this amount is spent on alcohol, the sale of alcohol over the counter is not issuing non-paying excise duty, as well as those studies that are currently being conducted on how gasoline taxes are paid, we also see that some companies manage not just to not pay the budget, but to conduct their activities in such a way that with the results of this activity, the budget itself remains the fault of the state, as the result is this company, accordingly, the az network was deprived of a license , so please focus on at least this, you receive additional income in one year, if you close the schemes, you

will close, accordingly, it is 100 billion per year, small and medium-sized businesses are much smaller amounts , the studies that were carried out are not the serious punishment that today's budget losses are, so in other words, the state is trying to shift attention from small businesses to large businesses, medium-sized businesses, where there are significant losses of the budget and running, sorry for some insignificant losses that were, at the same time... for example , the conditions that you read, this issue there will worsen the fact that they do not pay so much, i do not understand, what do we have the war is over, what about you? do you not understand that some businesses really lost their production facilities as a result of the war, employees, some went abroad, some were mobilized, other problems in business, of course they reduced their activities, and to you due to the fact that, for example, your, your premises , production premises, a rocket hit, destroyed the equipment, destroyed the premises itself, tax officials will come to you. who will ask the question: why do you pay so little, we don't care

that you have problems, please, let's pay more, so i believe that this approach to the current situation is irrational, i understand that once again our ministry of finance entered this into a memorandum with the international monetary fund, and as a result, he wrote off this memorandum, he now defends it, that yes, we need such checks, but look at that the customs itself, there are again losses of more than 100 billion, why does the ministry of finance, having all the powers, not influence... the situation at the customs, so in this context, i do not understand what the ministry of finance is guided by, what arguments it finds that these 237 deputies voted for the return of total checks, well, it is interesting that at the moment when the deputies only voted for total checks and only in the first reading of the checks they already came to certain types of ukrainian business, well, in particular , yesterday just during the vote in the parliament for the holding of emotions, it is called such a restaurant, a restaurant chain in lviv, his name is festus. the bureau of economic security came, while we wrote about the fact that we supposedly

came together with the sbu, but the sbu later disowned themselves, they said that ours were not there, which is what yuriy nazaruk, one of the co-founders of this festival, said, we have today classic masks of the show, in helmets with machine guns, in armored vehicles, everything was sent to the front, the central apparatus of the sbu was involved, well, it seems that this is not true, they asked the sbu to storm during the war, a special upergrupa came from the capital, nothing really new. activities of fops in restaurants, salaries, business activities, allegedly a criminal case, although there is still no request or appeal, now all employees are actually hostages, all activities are paralyzed, well, it seems that the hostages have already been released, this story, well a huge holding, i don't know how many there are more than 10 restaurants, maybe even more than 20, well, let's not advertise too much, the hiding place is one of the symbols, so to speak, of this festival, really, and they remembered that tsarov also wanted to close the hiding place

, because he was asked why there is glory to ukraine or whether there are no muscovites, he said, like, what kind of brutal abuse of us russians in ukraine is, well, less so, as this shows, i don’t want to stand up immediately for to protect business, there may also be violations, but well, the conflict is obvious, so to speak, tax officials are small businesses, as you comment, well, it’s not so much tax officials, not even a small business, medium or even, well, a medium business, well, it’s even a large business, considering those volumes, look, the person himself admits that she has problems, it is undocumented labor. this is non-issuance of checks, i.e. economic activity, this is the registration of raids, when , respectively, in one restaurant pop there, sometimes five or six fops, who receive, and at the same time, carrying out the same activity, i.e. there are violations of course, but in my first question is, why do you come to the enterprise, sorry about the machines, it is an economic activity check, why do you come with a full exchange.

please go to the front, if you have such, let's say, weapons, everything else, that's why i don't understand this, let's say inspection, the only thing i think is how it will all end, yes, today in the field of restaurant business they do not pay taxes actually everyone, that is , everyone has a different violation, and this is a twofold problem, the first problem, which is that the existing model, it is not favorable for the restaurant business, if these taxes are paid, then the corresponding prices will increase at least half a time, this is the first point, the second point is the question, after all , that today it is precisely these types of structures that make this business possible to occupy his restaurant for one or two years, which for europe , for example, who wants a restaurant there, will seem simply incredible, how can it be bought out in just such a short period of time, there are more than five years, so there are complaints, but again, how is this done and how is it checked accordingly, because those photos are a huge amount of... cash, the question is, where did it come from, what

did the holding company find in this during these searches, well i'll say, i'll say that the office of the prosecutor general, reacted, he published a message in which he accused holding emotions fest of large-scale non-payment of taxes. i'm mr. ilya, just look, it's me, well, we all go, well, sometimes yes, someone comes to the restaurant at least once a month and knows how everything is happening there, right here on the godfather there bohdan khmelnitsygo street, i will not name the name, restaurant, beer there costs almost uah 200 per mug. you go there and you have to pay three checks to pay for dinner there, if it's a company, one check is weak alcohol, the second check is strong alcohol and the third is the kitchen, the third check, well, is it anywhere in europe at all, or am i different? . we have a war and so on, but what about the checks for lunch or dinner, how can it be evaluated at all? well, this is tax evasion, that is, when it is carried out, alcohol is issued for one company for in order not to go out of business and, accordingly, to pay the minimum of these taxes, the second is the kitchen in order to optimize and the majority of workers who are either not registered at all, or receive the minimum

wage, then, a weak alcoholic is another third individual entrepreneur for that , so as not to go too far again. and not to pay, for example, the same vat , to pay, for example, only excise tax, retail excise tax, this is also optimization of taxation, that is, all this is aimed at not paying taxes, i things, i will say one such phrase, when it was pointed out that this network helps our army, then i have such simple arithmetic, if you did not pay taxes on a million, but transferred 100,000 to the army, then you did not help our army, but elected our army by 9000, it must be understood... that now all the taxes you pay go exclusively to the army, the rest is helped by our international partners, so i do not support the form that this audit is carried out, this audit should not to be so, people work there and you don't need to come for machines, but together with

whether taxes should be paid, taxes should definitely be paid, it is necessary as it is, and of course, work on finding such a model of taxation of the restaurant business, so that vat, for example, is not a turnover tax, because today, if this is actually added to the general taxation system, this is plus vat, plus the rest, and that's plus about 40% of taxes from your turnover. to put it bluntly, you and i said before the inclusion that if our restaurateurs will pay all taxes, how belongs, well, not to the fop, but to the general system, then the check in our restaurants can immediately grow from one and a half to two times, that is, so that we are ready to come and immediately pay twice as much, here too, the coin has two sides, a medal, i'm sorry, sir, but how do similar, similar mask shows end, with the fact that small, medium or large businesses are whitewashed, then the tax officials report, we put so much in the budget, the business also says, we paid so many taxes, and then everything returns, well, on its own, as they say

our enemies are the russians, i understand correctly, it’s absolutely true, how many such inspections have i seen, they end as follows , that means they sit and discuss, so look, it’s conditional, you have to increase it... still, there should be a formalization of workers, let them be on the minimum wage fee, and the amount of your payments there to the budget increases conditionally by a certain number of times, taking into account that you generally have a minimum tax payment, it is not such a high amount, and then babe says that some part is there, conditionally speaking, you transfer to support babe, let's put it this way, and that way the business remains as profitable enough, but maybe it will reduce its margin a little bit, which it was, so we'll see in a month, i'm sure it will be the same as it was at the time of such checks of online stores, all online stores work, checks are not punched there, well, not all of them, there are those that have been checked, and the same applies to others, so the same will be here, because to be honest, if we start taxation for this network in full, how she should be in

compliance with current legislation, this is either an increase in the check, accordingly, it is unlikely that there will be as many buyers as there are now , or simply go bankrupt and close, so here it is a complex problem that we need to solve, in order to determine what business model there should be, for example, a long, long overdue reduction in the taxation of wages, given the circumstances that exist, we now have to reduce this amount accordingly and in this way the majority will officially pay wages and there will be no such tax the burden on business as it is now, well, let's hope that both business will be intact and taxes will be paid , a reasonable middle ground will be found, let's talk about one more topic, the day before the parliament voted for a bill on strengthening financial monitoring of politically significant persons or peps, as they are also called, 276 votes means that this document establishes a lifetime status of a politically significant person, and not a three-year one, as it was before, and the responsibility of banks for unjustified

refusal of users of financial services increases. how important is it at all now, mr. elya, and what does lifetime status mean, that is, we will have something like this one, you know, you got pep and you will be a publicly and politically significant person until your death, please, well, the question here is that you you get not so much some kind of monarchy, but you get such a black mark, and no one will want to do business with you anymore, why, because it 's serious here, well, first of all, why? because this is a requirement of the european union for the start of negotiations, joining the european union, we agreed to this, we prescribed this, we have this to vote, but what will it lead to, what is pep in general, what is financial monitoring, this means that any of your transactions that are carried out for the bank, even if you went to a cafe, to a coffee shop of some kind, decided to pay for coffee, your transaction may be blocked. from the policies and procedures that the bank has prescribed for itself. if you pay for something, your transaction will be stopped. in addition to the fact that you,

for example, can now transfer an ordinary person from your account to the account of another person, and you do not have any problems, in people, accordingly, after 30 seconds, these funds arrived in their account, then at pepyv it goes through financial monitoring, and financial monitoring is ready to block any transaction, then you should bring your declaration accordingly. that you have the appropriate amounts, your information about any funds accumulated in deposits and so on, that is, to confirm that these funds are available to you, they were obtained legally, and imagine that this is during your entire life, and not only that yours fall under it children, yours fall under this, sir, i will quote valery chaly, our former, our former ambassador to the united states, what he wrote, i can say one thing for sure about this papacy, our ukrainian papacy will be the coolest in the world. because they are forever, pep's father, pep's mother, pep's parents, pep's children, entire hereditary families, no matter how you are scattered by fate , you will always be reminded throughout your life, you are one

family, it's wonderful, your adult children will be recognized in banks, insurance companies companies, work colleagues, if anyone else wants to do business with you, they will always remind how their parents once acted wisely, choosing this beautiful path of serving the state, which we now forever make the only choice in life, so i completely agree with him that there are both specific disadvantages and these disadvantages are quite serious, we, for example , it is unlikely that we will attract people from business now, because a man from business, who later wants to return to business, he will understand that the business partner also falls under the fact that he receives the status of pep, that is, he will be kept from him and no one will be with him will not want to have a business, why, because it serious problems, you want to recalculate something, you are blocked by financial monitoring, any operation is blocked by financial monitoring, so here i think that they have already outsmarted themselves. by this status, it was necessary to approach it accordingly justified, the limitation of this status is important, for example, it is really an element

of the fight against corruption, for three years, as it was, it was justified, you could increase there to 5 years, to 10 years, plus and that there is a moment about how our banks work, if our banks would absolutely qualified, high-quality, professional approach to inspections, then there would be no questions, but we have such significant fines for this, as a result, they prescribe instructions in the following way: they actually block any transaction you want to make. thank you, sir, and very briefly, here is the latest survey, it is a bit economic and political, by the kyiv institute of international sociology, which shows that 54% of ukrainians consider ukraine's membership in nato to be a higher priority, and only 24 believe that membership in the eu is our the priority, let me remind you, is the indicators there in may were almost the same, that is , the situation has changed in six months, your comment, why, that is , ukrainians pay less attention to economic issues now? and i think that it just is, everyone perfectly understands what nato is for, it is security, because everyone wants us,

for example, to have guarantees, as any guarantee should, a nato country, everyone perfectly understands that if you are in nato, you will not be attacked a second time, that is why nato remains a high priority . fully understand the advantages that the european union provides. that by opening this market, you will be able to sell your products, enter the european market, receive higher wages, it is always equalized gradually, not immediately, but gradual wages in a country that joins the european union, it rises to the standards of the european union and so further, that is why the advantages that ukraine will have after joining the european union are simply not explained. thank you, and of course, it is better to be friends with the rich and intelligent technology than poor and without technology, so of course. our goal is nato and the eu. ilya neskhodovskyi was with us from independence square . thank you yehor. thank you for the wonderful

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