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on the territory of ukraine, this was announced today by the spokesman of the us army command in europe and africa odunel, and now he says that ukrainians themselves must determine how and where to use them. and will the abrams be used at the front in the near future, in your opinion, and for what tasks , because we take into account that they are so heavy, very heavy, there was a lot of talk about it, and the so-called dirty season is approaching, well, all westerners tanks, they have more... more mass than soviet-made tanks, they about 55 tons, and the standard tank te-64, t-72 and 40 tons, and how will they be used , well, 30 tanks are just a company set, which, well, will not significantly affect the entire front line, in some area, maybe they will be used, but again, no one will throw them into suicide attacks
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and some part of the tanks will be used to train crews for future deliveries, because 30 tanks are already there, this is only the first swallow, in the 24th year we will see abravsim even more , again, because they are in storage warehouses and it is easier for the americans to transfer them than any other equipment, and which modification of these tanks are we talking about, because you mentioned that it is easier for the westerners to transfer them , so to speak, for disposal in ukraine, and is it about the fact that these the tanks are equipped with modern equipment inside, do they have all the necessary electronics, or is it just about iron, sorry, but before being sent to ukraine, these tanks underwent such demilitarization, because some modern, modern elements, depleted uranium, there is a uranium harrow, american guidance systems
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they are not supplied even to the closest allies, such as south korea or other countries , and therefore they are a kind of ukrainian modification, and more modern radio equipment is installed there , which is used in the zsu, but these elements, they are removed, and it was connected with this that the tanks are not they came, let's say in the summer, but they came only tomorrow, ugh, well, it's not possible yet. to mention that the sbu states that they allegedly attacked a military camp near the halino airfield in kursk region at night, as evidenced by the video and according to their data, there were up to 300 military personnel there of the russian federation, about 80 units of military equipment. in fact, in russia they officially announced the alleged attack of 12 drones, at night the governor claimed that they were shot down, but wreckage was recorded in some places. this is the drone attack on the territory of russia, how effective it is. provided that
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the drones do not all fly in, what, what significance do such attacks have in the first place? well, first of all, this is media, the media component is very important, and secondly, we see that the number of those strikes and the mass, it grows almost every night, and to understand what exactly lost by the russians, it will be possible only after some time, when russian propaganda sources begin to appear, let's say, obituaries of soldiers who died in one or another period, they do not appear immediately, but they also appear to assess the losses of the russians. heard, mykhailo, thank you very much for joining the broadcast, mykhailo zhirokhov, a military expert was in direct contact with us. thank you. holiday.
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the district court of kyiv announced the decision in the case of mass shootings of activists on february 20, 2014 on instytutsky street in kyiv, it is about five ex-employees of the now disbanded berkut special forces company. so, according to the court's decision, oleg yanishevsky was sentenced to life imprisonment, pavlo abroskin and serhiy zinchenko each received 15 years of imprisonment, all three were released from prison in december 2019 as part of a prisoner exchange with russia. at the same time, serhii tamtura was acquitted of all charges, and oleksandr marinchenko, wanted to be acquitted of a number of charges, but received five years of imprisonment, which he had already served in sizo. both of the ones i mentioned were in the courtroom during the session. i will add that the trial lasted almost seven years, from may 2015 to november 2022.
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the jury was in the deliberation room for almost a year. according to the indictment, the people of eksberkut were charged with the use of registered firearms against the participants of the institute protest in 2014, they committed the intentional murders of 48 people, and attempted intentional murders and 80 more, as well as acts of terrorism and other crimes. to appeal this sentence, and in relation to all the accused, including regarding which sentence of life imprisonment, since it is a question of qualifications, it is unclear to us, this is the ratio that the court recognized three people. guilty of intentional murders, but at the same time acquitted everyone, including yanishevsky in the act of terrorism, it is incomprehensible to us, if the murder takes place in relation to an indiscriminate number of citizens, unarmed for a long time and a half actually
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live, then how these actions can be evaluated differently, than as a terrorist act, that is , in fact, acts of intimidation of society, there are more several... cases that are currently in the courts, precisely on these events, this is a case concerning the organizers of crimes of the top leadership of the state, it was recently transferred to the court, there is also the former president, the minister of internal affairs, the head of the security service, that is, these are cases concerning organizers, several more cases regarding the performers, if we are talking about these events now, these are colleagues of the accused data , that is, from this berkut special unit, this is also the head of the berkut special unit, the case is also in court, and which, for example, our family even did not file a civil lawsuit, as we believe that it is impossible to materially compensate this loss, we strive for the rule of law in our country and are confident that we will achieve this, today's decision, today's
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decision is absolutely not satisfactory, well, moreover , i will say that it shakes me , because unexpectedly, two berkut people who will be released, but the question is whether they put pressure on the court that the court made such a decision, despite the fact that their partners are fighting on the side of the dnr, absurdity, does not satisfy us, we will appeal, the appeal will be 100%. vitaly tytych, lawyer of relatives of the heavenly hundred, serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, joins our broadcast, mr. vitaly, my congratulations, good evening, i greet you, good evening, you know, i have seen that this case is called case number one, but it is about only about five people from exberkut, but actually we heard in the direct language of the prosecutor about how many more such cases have been opened, that there are much more, how important and resonant today, today's court decisions are, well , actually, do you agree with the judges? yes,
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it really is, the most important matter, is and was and will remain the most important. in fact, the first is from the procedural point of view, this is the only proceeding that was actually carried out in all episodes, a real court proceeding, we said, other court proceedings are, well, not even an imitation, this is a gross violation of the requirements of the procedural code, which we characterized as simple rape of justice together with torture in these proceedings, therefore this proceeding is important, from the point of view of the fact that it has already taken place, and we, and the prosecution, we, this party the prosecution, representing the victims, had the opportunity to present their evidence to the court and present their position and justification for this, this is the first
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, and the second, this is the proceedings, including those proceedings that oleksiy dunskyi mentioned, they are not just important for establishing the conditionally guilty of this crime and punishing them in the interests of the victimized parties, relatively speaking, first of all, it is important and remains important to establish the circumstances under which these crimes were committed, because uh, these crimes, i mean the crimes during the maidan events, they are absolutely... tangential, is an explanation, given the condition of what is happening now in ukraine, what will happen after the end of this war, and the questions that this court should solve, examine this evidence, they are extremely
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important now for the state of ukraine, first of all in the international arena, regarding proving the fact of aggression, russia and punishing the full fact of aggression at the moment when it began. according to the criminal proceedings mentioned by oleksiy donskyi, for. unfortunately, with such a delay, but now, the prosecution, prosecutors, investigators are investigating the circumstances of the reasons for the emergence of what we call the events on the maidan, the revolution of dignity, and this is considered as a provocation of the russian special services by committing a series of terrorist, i emphasize not only this, but a series of terrorist acts, starting from november 5, in all episodes in the interests of the russian federation
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during the organization of the top state leadership of ukraine at that time , including law enforcement agencies. therefore, what oleksiy said, in principle , explained it all quite comprehensively, this, why from the accusation, from on what grounds the key article disappeared, 258, the commission of a terrorist act that led to the mass death of people, why it fell out, it is unclear, i believe that we have provided uh, exhaustive evidence for this, moreover, uh, the key, one of the key pieces of evidence is the furnishing act, precisely that it was a terrorist act, is the decision of the european court in the maidan cases, the so-called shmorgunov case, where these circumstances are established, taking into account the fact that, according to the national legislation, the decision of the european court is already part of it
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according to our legislation, the criminal court had no right to ignore these circumstances. mr. vitaly, how do you assess the chances of the prosecutor's office for this appeal, which oleksiy donsky talked about, that the fact that a terrorist act of terrorism occurred, first of all, i would not call it the chances of the prosecutor's office, these are my chances, my chances, for this reason, i spent nine years in this criminal proceeding, these evidences and circumstances were established back in the 15th year, and i believed that we proved them in this criminal proceeding, therefore there will obviously be an appeal, we will study it, it is a very large amount of text, we have to approach it in a qualified manner, examine the arguments, the court and give our answer to them from the appeal, the prospects are very... bad, first of all, we have already lost the prospects,
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this is the lack of any attention to this criminal proceeding, this trial, to the maidan cases in general, from the side of society, let me remind you that only the attention of society gave us the opportunity to conduct these investigations and collect evidence at all, let me remind you what an investigation is, a judicial the investigation is taking place under the frenzied, it took place, at least during the frenzied opposition, of the authorities of the pismaidan period, which is reflected in a number of criminal proceedings initiated since the 15th year, for this fact, in particular, the obstruction of the investigation and the implementation of the trial, so this is the main factor that society has forgotten about he doesn't know, he doesn't think it's important in the circumstances that exist, unfortunately, i repeat that it's very important right now, well, that's the main thing. problem, the second problem is absolutely, let's call it politically correct, dysfunction
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of the judicial power of ukraine, it has completely rotted, and those so-called judicial reforms finally finished it off. an appeal is a court conditionally controlled by that party, i have said about it several times, so we do not expect anything good in the appeal, we will obviously prepare, move through the appeal to the cassation and carry out a number of... other procedural steps, now we will discuss the strategy with the prosecutors, which will strengthen our position and make it possible to prove what actually happened and establish the real circumstances of this terrible crime. mr. vitaly, what about the fact that no one is here, as i understand it, there are two of them, one was completely acquitted, one has already served time , taking into account the term of the sentence of five years, and three fugitives who are in russia, is it possible somehow... complain and this somehow affect it?
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let me remind you, the fact that no one will sit down was known, well, a year before, well, three years ago, time flies quickly in connection with these circumstances, we talked about it, tried to draw attention to it, in fact, this sentence, issued by judge dyachuk in his ruling on the change of preventive measures and the reaction to the relevant petitions and procedural... the documents of the prosecution, yes, that is, he ignored the circumstances that exist, that is, that there is an additional violation, we talked about it, reacted procedurally, tried to draw attention to it. society, i repeat, there is no attention, it did not bother anyone that persons who are conditionally indicted for crimes punishable by life imprisonment, they did not have even a single preventive measure for three years and moved freely here, by the way, they are very they were well aware of this sentence already when they were returned to
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ukraine, returned, i repeat this word, they no... they were returned themselves, the masterminds of this crime were returned, from the russian federation, and apparently they were explained with the help of lawyers , including that they are no longer in danger, they should be here to simulate some process and their desire to take part in it, they found out about it and that's why they were brought back here, so this is the situation to remind a little how they are, mr. vitaly, thank you very much for paying attention to this and for agreeing to participate to the air, vitaly tytych, lawyer of the relatives of the heavenly hundred, currently a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine. he was in direct contact with us. thank you. well, the verkhovna rada, the day before, adopted a bill that was one of the demands of the imf and the european union regarding ukraine's future membership. this is
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a draft law that provides for strengthening financial monitoring of politically significant persons. abbreviated pep from english and politically exposed person. in particular , it actually establishes the lifelong status of such peps and not three years, as was the case before. at the same time, the responsibility of banks is increasing for unreasonable refusal to users of financial services. banks themselves should implement a risk-oriented approach when serving these politically significant persons, their family members and people connected with them. currently, the law is being signed by volodymyr zelenskyi, and given his statement the day before, the president's signature will be under it. well, daria kalyniuk, executive director of the anti-corruption center, joins us, daria, i welcome you, good evening. good evening. you you know, given the heated discussion in social networks between the deputies themselves and officials, it looks like there are different
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readings of this law. let's first of all clarify who is in agreement. document falls under this category and how many such people are in ukraine? i want to emphasize that this law is a mirror of the eu directive on combating the legalization of proceeds of crime. there is nothing catastrophic, nothing greater than what is already written in eu standards and regulations in this law. that is, it is a european standard, we want to join the eu, we must have it such a law. second: according to this, public figures, national public figures are persons who are endowed or have been endowed with high public powers, this is again a quote from the eu directive, and this is the wording adopted by the deputies, and it is popularly called pep's lifetime status,
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i want to emphasize that pep's lifetime status is a myth, it is a myth that... is spread by those people 's deputies and those officials who have not fully understood what the risk-oriented approach of financial monitoring of public figures is, here and this myth is very easy to dispel if you read the following norms of the newly adopted eu law and directives, in particular article 22 of the eu directive, they say that after a person who is a national public figure, i.e. occupies a top position on a voice show, these are not state officials of a lower level, these are ministers, deputy ministers, deputies, the president, heads of law enforcement bodies, judicial bodies, these persons, after they leave their positions, within 12 months, financial institutions must carry out an in-depth, such
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increased financial monitoring, this is what this means in practice, this means in practice that when a bank account is opened, for this account, opening this account takes a little longer, because there must be a decision of the bank manager whether to open or not, and the bank is obliged to check the sources of income, sources of wealth, of this person, that is, he must go into the declaration, he must see if there is anything suspicious in this declaration, if transactions are carried out on the account of the person, then they are additionally monitored so that there are no there appeared some transactions through offshore companies or unsubstantiated assets. here, and within 12 months, after a person is dismissed from a position that confers the status of a public figure, such enhanced monitoring must be carried out. after 12 months, if no special risks have been identified, that is, if there are no unreasonable incomes, suspicious transactions, complex
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schemes, this client should be treated the same as a regular client, so i emphasize once again, this is a myth of longevity, baby, no it was returned, we simply, well, there is no such thing as life-long peps, there is simply no, if there may be cases of the application of this law in certain banks, then the banks may simply not want to open accounts because they do not like the person, or they do not want to deal with high-risk client actors, but this is already a matter of the work of our regulator , the national bank, the government, financial monitoring, this issue is resolved and regulated under legal regulations, not the law of ukraine, and the european union and fatf. not guilty of the way our, this standard, our banks and our financial monitoring, the national bank of ukraine and the government are applied, and i am convinced that our ministers who are
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peps, deputy ministers who are peps, and people's deputies who are peps , will do everything possible to normalize this normal regulation, and here is the dubious quality that mr. yurchyshyn wrote about, do you agree that there are certain points in the law that may carry hidden risks or even loopholes for these, i i see that the law is good, the law meets the standards, yes and fadv, this was, as far as i understand, also recognized by our european partners, the last, last version of the bill was sent for approval to the european union, as far as i know, and they got approval, and everything is actually very simple there, because we basically have a copy-paste of the directive the eu, and even... with certain relaxations, but i do not see that they are any critical, these relaxations, now, the main thing is the issue of applying the law, and
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the issue of whether, at the level of the national bank, at the level of the government, it was developed normal policy and system, communications with by ukrainian banks, how to apply this law, but i want to emphasize one more manipulation used by the enemies of this law, justifying it by some kind of sacrifice of civil servants and so on, no matter what law we adopt, we can completely cancel the peps in ukraine , but this does not cancel the obligation of foreign banks to monitor transactions with our ukrainian public figures. because there are eu standards that say that foreign public figures banks should check the same thoroughly and should carry out this strengthening
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monitoring, and when identifying foreign public figures, banks should use publicly available databases and publicly available information, i.e. if there is information about people's deputies, as well as their close relatives, on the nazk website. then this is publicly available information that is used by foreign banks that rely on a lot of commercial databases that are generally monitored from abroad, that's it, our peeps will still be peeps, and one of the arguments used by many people's deputies, we have problems abroad with financial institutions, because we are peps, well, but... these problems will not go away with the law that exists today, we will not adopt the law on european integration, you understand, daria, i wanted to clarify one more point,
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you mentioned the critics of this document, they also make arguments or warnings that professional business people will no longer go to work for the state because of this law, because signing a contract for several years, they must be under the watchful eye of the feds monitoring for life, well, about life, about life, you abolished this myth, so to speak, but less so, but this financial discrimination, so to speak, does this law nullify all efforts there in the reform of public administration , what can you say to such criticism? first of all, the law on public figures has been in effect since 2014, and since 2014, business people have been coming to the state administration. of course, financial monitoring, in-depth, settled financial monitoring, creates additional inconveniences. i don't argue with that, but it's, well, a sacrifice
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that you have to make when... you go to work for a top position in the state, it's not for all public servants, i emphasize again, here, and then when you go from the position, as i have already mentioned, for 12 months, increased monitoring is carried out, if there are no suspicious transactions, then everything is fine and further, you are treated as a normal client, in my opinion, the main problem, and the reason why the top... managers, from business and not only from business, do not want to go to public service, it is not peps, but the ability of our state to grant sufficient powers and pay sufficient salaries to good managers , so that they do the work, so that they serve the ukrainian people in the public service, in my opinion, this is the main problem, and not the european integration law regarding
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in-depth monitoring. ugh , well, again, among those who did not support this bill, there is a statement about its unconstitutionality and the possibility of an appeal, how do you assess such risks, ae in the european union, the directive on financial monitoring, in-depth financial monitoring of peps was adopted in 2015, and none of the eu countries in which this directive is in force recognized the unconstitutionality of this... norm, let me remind you once again, the norm there also directly states that a pep is a person who holds, or has held , an important influential public position, that is , i see no reason to declare the unconstitutionality of this law, the law does not create any additional legal responsibility for the citizen, the law deepens financial
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control over top officials who voluntarily take up a public position, receive authority and voluntarily agree to such an additional level of supervision from the side of society as well, in particular the declaration of electronic declaration, this is such an additional level of supervision, and from the side of financial institutions. listen, daria, thank you for the clarification, daria kalyniuk, executive director of the anti-corruption center, was in direct contact with us. regarding pewi laws. thank you. the company epicenter and the new line of people's deputy oleksandr gerega paid salary to his ex-worker in occupied donetsk region for eight years. this was found out by the journalists of the radio liberty scheme project. it is about the former director of the epicenter hypermarket in makiivka, gennady galchuk, who after 2014 remained
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working for the russian okupa. moreover, since 2014, he continued to manage the galactic network created instead of epicenters. which, as it was believed, came under the control of the occupation authorities. at the same time, journalists found out that galchuk continued to be on the staff of ukrainian companies gerkh even after the occupation donbas and after february 24, 2022 and received a monthly salary from gerech until july 2022. moreover, he traveled to the territory controlled by ukraine and financed the party founded by gerech. maksym savchuk, journalist and author. galaxy. wow. the former epicenter, which in 2014 found itself in territories not controlled by ukraine, changed not only its name, hypermarkets adjusted to new realities. galaxies celebrated russian holidays and congratulated the republic day. in addition, the network
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cooperated openly. with russian-controlled local administrations, from the fact that took place in public, for example, the ceremonial handover of the car to the leadership of the ministry of emergency situations, the dnr group. after the full-scale invasion, this cooperation seems to have become even more fruitful. galaxy supplied goods for prison administrations, rescuers, and even the special services of the dpr group. the galactic network expanded simultaneously with the occupation of ukraine by the russian military. a new hypermarket in ven destroyed mariupol was opened on october 22. there was a meter here. you know, all mariupol people know this place. but at the same time it was hard not to to notice that the galaxies throughout all the years of work in the occupation continued to maintain a noticeable similarity with the ukrainian epicenters. for example, they haven't changed in the galaxies for eight years.

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