[000:00:00;00] 250 then we skip until 197 laba does not insist, 198 vasylchenko and colleagues do not insist, 199 aleksiychuk and colleagues do not insist, and this is the homeland, they have already spoken on this issue, 200, 201 aleksiychuk and colleagues do not insist, 2022. colleagues do not insist 203 kisilevsky does not insist, 204 bondar, does not insist, 205 bakunets, does not insist, 206 bakunets does not insist, 2007 yatsenko, does not insist, 208 , please, serhiy oleksiyovych, does not insist, does not insist, 209th, here too petrunyak, zahoruyko , razumkov, dmytro oleksandrovich,

you... or someone? do you not insist yet? 209 will you or will you skip it for now? 209, please, dmytro oleksandrovych. thank you, ruslan oleksiyovych. 209, 211, 211, 212. please give two minutes to speak on them, please give two minutes, the whole amendments, they are amendments proposed by our team, and maintaining the association of the bridge, is really responsible for a reasonable policy of granting permission to local communities to allocate funds for defense, in particular to allow financing of measures and work of territorial defense and mobilization preparation, support of security forces, defense, design, construction, repair of protective structures, civil protection, storage facilities , shelters, etc., dual purpose structures and arrangement of premises, which are planned to be used for shelters and the population,

unfortunately, this was not done: by the state by the central authorities in the last heating season and during the period of time when the so-called points of inviolability were transferred to the local authorities, the central authorities tried to promote themselves on this, but they did not succeed, because the points the unbreakables were mostly so-so, for example, if we're talking about the highest quality unbreakable point i 've had the chance to be in, it's a walking field. zaporizhzhia direction, there is a really cool point of invincibility, i would like to thank all those who organized it, who work there, who help the locals to survive the constant shelling that this settlement lives under , so let's help the local authorities to make sure that it does not only about walking fields, we could talk in the walls of the verkhovna rada, and it would also

be desirable if we could go there, mr. ruslantsich, colleagues, we looked at how it is, and perhaps it would not be worth taking this money from the local authorities, so i invite everyone who is interested , i think that it would be important for this settlement and useful for you and me, thank you, thank you , 213 mokan, well, they said you are skipping it, and what is it, everyone, 200, ninth , now a second, i will be back, 209th , dear colleagues, please, 209 amendment of the authorship of petrunyak, zagoruyko, razumkova, it was rejected by the committee, please vote, for a second, for 27, the decision has not been made,

show by fractions, please, thank you. let's move on, 2003 mokan doesn't insist, and you are there too, i apologize, because you are sometimes the first, sometimes the fifth, okay, dmytro oleksandrovich, let's go to 213, i'm sorry, ruslan oleksiyovych, i have a request 213, 217, give me two minutes bozhik instead of these edits and let's move on, okay, please, bozhik 213, 214, 2015, please, thank you, dear colleagues, we understand. as majority deputies who are in contact with the communities every day, as it is difficult for the state to fulfill the obligations defined by the laws during the war, and this is sometimes done by the local self-government instead of the state, and it is precisely from those funds that come from taxes, and therefore the withdrawal of funds from the budgets of these communities, as has been repeatedly noted in this hall, can lead to the collapse of local self-government and, in general, to the destruction of the

decentralization reform, because pdf these are the necessary services from the state that have to be provided to people, both military personnel and law enforcement officers, they protect us with their lives, but their families. live in these communities, they are also people, and these people who are on the front lines must be sure that their families are protected and receive the necessary services and assistance, and local self-government provides for the military, it is the families of the military, it is the breadwinners whom the people, the breadwinners , physically need at the front, school, work, help, it is the wounded, especially in the frontline communities, it is the help to those servicemen who are quartered in these communities, rehabilitation veterans let's imagine that we have already taken these resources from the communities , they are not there, that the communities will stop helping the military, of course not, no matter how hard it is for them to do it, they will help, because people from every community are fighting there, but a big

the question of whether the state will do this, taking away from the people, their taxes, their resources, whether this aid will be directed as intended, is a very big question, that is why we are our team of smart policy and defend the position of leaving the military pddfo in the communities, and this law. will simply destroy local self-government if we accept it as it is. thank you. thank you, let's move on. 218. petrunyak, razumkov village. please , dmetro oleksandrovych. thank you, ruslan oleksivych, let's go with the standard 2182. unfortunately, i didn't understand one bit at a time, two minutes, then, please, yes, two minutes, yes, thank you, unfortunately, yuriy mykhailovych, i did not understand your position. you said that there is no need to increase loans, credit limits for local councils, debt limits for local councils, well, first of all, 300 and 500%, because

500 is exclusively for kyiv, for all others it is 300, there it does not increase to 500, but the second proposal, and the question is not incomprehensible to me, please tell me, we have now exceeded 100% of gdp, they make up our external obligations, internal obligations state, that's right, and we actually live in debt, then you accept it in the state budget, you are satisfied with it, you say good, you agree, i am sure you will agree to a budget with a deficit of 50%, a deficit of 50%, because the budget will be 300, 50 with something, if i'm not mistaken, but it seems that your own income is 1.5, there is a little more, then it suits you as a people's deputy, as a profile committee, as a representative of the government, as a representative

of the monomajority, but for the local government you forbid it , don't you think that these are double approaches, they are not correct, they are not correct, they are not statist, and i personally see in this a simple context that will beat local self-government, according to the democratic principles that we followed in the 19th year, and this absolutely does not correspond to what you, you, because you were part of the team that moved to power, promised the voters, thank you, please respond to these amendments, thank you, dear circle, what i said about the local debt ceiling and guaranteed debt, as of today he is the law, i already am

said that it is limited to 200% of the weighted average income to the general fund of local budgets, and in the opinion of the ministry of finance and the expert groups on the basis of which we worked, it is optimal, because an increase in this limit may lead to the impossibility of local budgets to calculate on their own, thank you, thank you, dmytro oleksandrovich, then again your corrections, maybe 10 to 4, so that you have time to tell, will it go like this , please, dmytro oleksandrovich, or 5:2, no, let's give 9/4, so that there will be four left, in there are just us, where 9/4, so wait a second, me i will list 223, 224, 225, 226, 227, 228, 229, 230, 231, correctly, 4 minutes. please, yuriy mykhailovych, you are manipulating, with all due respect to you, because you cannot guarantee that the same situation will not happen with the state budget, do you guarantee, i like to ask questions, in order to later find out who is responsible for it

personal responsibility, i also appealed to the head of the specialized committee, and there is a transcript, then i will have to answer for every word before the voters, and before the army, and before god, and sometimes before others. structures that are close to this, and can, can organize another location for our colleagues with you, but just by the last law we did not allocate 700 million to them each. i think that they will also look at it, i mean the anti-corruption bodies, sap , nabu, in the higher anti-corruption court we have generally reduced expenses, or rather financial support, so i think that the desire to work more qualitatively will appear in them, and according to whom there is, but if we return to the position, do you guarantee that in to the state budget for the 24th year, all those

borrowing, and we take, they will come, and you can provide three and 150, 3 three 150 billion, this is the first question, the second question, please tell me, you voted for 10:03 today, and i already said that it is quite manipulative the draft law, because it is nicely called about the army, there is indeed a large amount allocated for the army, but we fought with you yesterday, you, if i am not mistaken, were also in the hall, you did not leave. verkhovna rada and worked, which should be given credit in contrast to other members of the budget committee and monobolshe, who were not interested in it, but it is from bill 1037, you want to fill part of bill 10.038 , will it happen that today, for example, this bill will not be voted on, or it will not be voted on at all, because you want to destroy local self-government

and it is not a fact that people's deputies will go for it, well, theoretically, there will be more common sense , there will be more reasonable approaches in the parliament, there will be more intelligent people in the parliament, and they will not vote for it, how will you cover it then the deficit that you voted in the budget, in the budgetary amendment to the budget for the 23rd year in the draft law 10:038 two questions, who guarantees the budget deficit... in the 24th year and who will guarantee if you cannot provide a financial resource draft law 0.38, these are two questions that i will ask you to answer later, and one more important aspect, you mentioned, in fact, directly in the text, to be honest, it is very unpleasant for me to talk about it, which is to hear that you do not carry the 86th amendment supported because there is some 900... which takes this

into account, if it is taken into account in the 910th, then it is not means that you have to reject the amendment of a reasonable policy, then you should also support it, we are not about politics, we are about the army or about politics, if it is about politics, you say, we are politically engaged, the key for us is not checkers, but to go, and therefore, we will reject all reasonable amendments, then i will simply understand what the position is in the committee and proceed from that, thank you and i hope for a comprehensive answer to those three questions, thank you. please, what is the position of the committee on these nine amendments? we discuss edits, the position of the committee on these amendments is rejected, thank you, but thank you, well, if you wish , please give an answer, after all, you represent the committee here, but the questions have been asked, if you wish, thank you ruslan oleksiyovych, mr. dmytro, look, on the first question, i... after all, here i present the decision of the general

committee, which was worked out together with the ministry of finance and with expert groups, and i, as a people's deputy, still believe more that we can do everything and do everything, and we all must the tasks that we have undertaken as a government will be fulfilled, that is why, surely we guarantee that everything will happen as we predict, because so far there are favorable circumstances for that, on the second question, will the budget be formed, as far as i remember, if possible in the 23rd year, changed, yes , thank you, dear colleagues, dmytroi oleksandrovych, the following amendments 232, 233, 234, i understand correctly, please, give me a minute, two, yes, let's go. thank you for answering one of

the questions, yuriy mykhailovych, i hope you will now be able to answer the second as well, i will remind him once again whether the pledge as of receipts for the bill of financial support for the bill that was voted today 1038 of receipts from bill 1037, if so, why in such a sequence we have it today... first of all, we need to find the money, and then vote for the law, if not, then we wanted to to understand with what logic we are approaching, and the second, i ask the question once again, this is about the political motivation of the rejected amendments, here, unfortunately, you, it will be difficult for you to say that this is your position as part of the committee, so that you voted to reject these amendments, i would like to understand the logic of this rejection, if the same amendment is taken into account, because

its author, if i am not mistaken, is arahamia, yes, and this is the leader of your faction, okay, i understood it, and why ... all other similar amendments you then reject, it would be wise to support them and we would have more good amendments that were approved by the committee, but this did not happen, so if you can still answer these two questions, in advance you thank you, your position is three on the committee's amendments, mr. dmytro, look, after all, the committee chose some kind of complex amendment that will take place and will be changed. this is the position of the committee , the majority of the committee voted and chose exactly such a wording that will be included in the body of the law, this is according to the last question, and in terms of formation, 30 1038, well , to be honest, i think it would be better to forward this question to

the ministry of finance, they will get there a little later, because i don't have any tables at hand right now, so i'm asking you. i am asking you as soon as it appears here the representative of the ministry of finance, we, we will forward this question to him, well, it is possible that a person has left somewhere, it will be now, thank you, thank you, dear colleagues, let's move on, 235 arahamiya, please do not insist on the procedure dmytro oleksandrovich, what do you have, first of all, a very valid proposal was made by mr. kozbit, who suggested that there should still be a representative of the ministry of finance, it is necessary to give credit again , yesterday the minister of finance and the deputy minister of finance were present until the end of the meeting and exercised their powers, and still, ruslan oleksiyovych, i would like you ask questions ah, you did not answer, do you know about the decision of the cabinet, the decision of the constitutional court , which does not allow voting in

the verkhovna rada, if there are not 226 people's deputies in the hall, if possible, give a direct answer, not that you know the laws do you not know whether this is a decision or not, whether you are aware of it or not, thank you, you have finished, i am not taking you to an exam on constitutional law, i am telling you that i, as the head of the verkov rada, am obliged to be guided and act by the constitution of ukraine, the regulations , what do i do with it, thank you let's go further, 235, arahamiya, rejected, does not insist, thank you, 236 rejected, does not insist, 237 vasylchenko rejected, does not insist, 238 bakunets rejected does not... insists, 239 rascal, does not insist, 240- yuzhannina, please, nina petrovna, dear colleagues, so that you understand that two sources of replenishment of the state budget funds are being considered in this, in these changes, and when

mrs. pidlasa spoke yesterday about the fact that her dream that the entire road fund will now be counted has really come true. to the state budget, that's how we talk about this dream we have been talking for four years about the fact that during the war at least a certain percentage should be given to special funds or the state budget, but this is just a dream, because this money will be stolen again, spent on new asphalts and so on, and we suggested that these funds must be launched through budget lending of targeted programs for the development of the defense-industrial complex. spoke with kamyshin yesterday, he likes this idea, but the budget committee stubbornly listens only to commands and does not want to even think about healthy things, dear colleagues, amendment 240 of yuzhainaya, colleagues, it

was rejected by the committee, please vote. for 15, the decision has not been made, 241 mazurashev, does not insist, 242 goncharenko, please, good afternoon, dear friends, you, mr. ruslan, have mentioned birth trauma, i am very interested in who has birth trauma, because it seems that she fell silent, and the injury is very serious, because it is a lack of morals and conscience, and it is really family, because how can you take money directly from the budget directly for yourself and your family, you can say what about me here anything, anything, i have never issued a single penny, no state aid , support, anything else, but to think

of giving the president's father a lifetime stipend from the budget account, the president who does not suffer, he has the villa forteday, which millionaires, he speaks about it publicly, well, to be honest, this is something beyond understanding and morality and birth trauma, and my amendment that it is not necessary to rob local self-government, covering up with the help of honcharenko's 242nd amendment, it was rejected by the committee, please vote, for 15, the decision has not been taken, by fractions, please show the next one, 240. the third, er, gerashchenko, please, ionova, and ionova

, yes, please, ionova, thank you, mr. chairman, my amendment, continuation of the budgetary lending of local communities, you know, it is very unfortunate that the strengthening of the military capabilities of the state in our country is done by punishing local communities, but in reality you are not punishing local communities, not community leaders and mayors, but rather residents of these communities. especially in the context that they will not be able to through target programs, to improve the development of the defense-industrial complex, and that is why, you know, i am also very worried, because in fact it is precisely the anti-corruption policy that should be engaged in, and not the punishment of certain disagreeable mayors, you and i remember the famous law 56-55 , whose fate is still unknown, because the president... is also very valuable, when we have ukrtat nafta

, the head of ukrnafta will receive uah 3,200. 243 amendment by gerachenko ionov and colleagues rejected by the committee, please vote. for 18, no decision has been made. the next amendment 244. aryev, i understand correctly, please aryev. ah, i'm asking 244, 245, 308, 319 and 320th, give me four minutes instead of five edits, maybe three, if that's the case, listen, fine, well, let's go one at a time, let's go one at a time then. so let's give 240, please, 244, but why, mr. chairman, look

, you, you offered others the same conditions , but they didn't give me, i'm just wondering why, instead of five edits, i offer 4 minutes, five edits, okay, give me four minutes, i don't have 24, let 's say it again, 244, 245, 308, 319, 320 308, 319 and 320th, well, now, thank you for providing equal opportunities, and i hope that in the verkhovna rada we will, sooner or later, come to a hundred percent european style of work of the highest legislative body, through the cristernias to the stars of perasperastra, but through the cristernias now it will be it is necessary to go through... the budget of local communities, i wanted to note that

many local councils have adopted an appeal to the verkhovna rada of ukraine, not to rob them of uah 94 billion, because many local communities are real, there are, of course, those that are engaged in extravagance, but as from the classic operetta, yes, what grew, grew, what was chosen , was chosen, but there are a lot of local communities that absolutely do not provide the armed forces of ukraine with everything they need, i constantly monitor the agreements that are placed in the prozoro system, and these agreements are there, literally through several agreements, or drones, or the purchase of cars, or anti-drone guns, absolutely everything, we are depriving these now

military units, these revenues from local communities, and right now there are two representatives in the presidium from khmelnytskyi, one chairman of the verkhovna rada and the head of a local party, a branch of a local party, a servant of the people, and i wanted to inform you that the regional, khmelnytskyi regional council supported the appeal to the verkhovna rada of ukraine, regarding...' 10.037 there was no such robbery of local communities and local budgets, i am absolutely sure that an absolutely normal solution can be found, and this solution will be found when local communities find themselves without electricity, without water, without the possibility of repairs, without

the possibility of purchasing medicine for... local hospitals to maintain the local hospitals, when the people feel it all on themselves, i understand that we have a lot of needs for the front now, but let's take the whole road fund, as we did, this is february 24 last year, take the whole road fund for the military-industrial complex, this is actually enough in order to start all the plans that the ministry of digital, and the state special communications, and the ministry of special industry have today, there is money for all this to take from the road fund, if we will take the money from the locals literally everything will be sprinkled on the communities, and i understand that now it is possible for the opposition such a draft law from a political point

of view is even very beneficial, because the adoption of this draft law in the form that is proposed will not affect the population, but there are political issues, and there are issues of survival of the state during the war, and as i emphasized that today we need to make reforms first of all and for this purpose gather in the hall, so now i emphasize that this bill cannot be adopted, thank you, thank you, please further 246 batenko does not insist, 242. friz does not insist, 248 , mykysha, please, dmytro, please, thank you, the road fund of ukraine, this is a special fund of the state budget with a specific purpose for roads, and everyone is very happy when it is taken from special fund and transferred to the general fund, the general boiler, where it can

be used as you like, but do not rush to rejoice, because i will remind you that 35% of the road fund goes to roads of local importance, that is , to communities, if it is now in full, and right now at 10.037, in this bill it is said that all funds from the road fund will go into a common boiler, and then the communities will not see this 35%, 35% that will go to local roads, given that we are taking away the military pdf, sorry, for which the communities will receive road infrastructure . it's not just roads, it's also bridges, and pedestrians, and lighting, it's all road infrastructure and safety, if we take it away now, they won't have the money, so i'm asking to leave it in the special fund. 248 amendment of the authorship of mika and

colleagues rejected by the committee, please vote. for 23, the decision has not been taken, please, next dmytro oleksandrovich, you have a galaxy of amendments there, please, starting with 249, razumkov, myruslav oleksiyovych, 249, 252, 251, the third, and the fifth, give me two minutes , here is a conceptual amendment, after that we will put it to a vote, the rest will be taken by mokon, let me clarify, 249, 251, 252, 253, 255, that's right, dear colleagues, this amendment directs the funds of the road fund to defense according to targeted expenditures, and not on the general budget, as proposed by the government, therefore it is proposed to send 50% to development purchase, modernization and repair of

military equipment and equipment and 50% for the payment of monetary