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[000:00:00;00] accepted, please, continue dmytro oleksandrovich, there you have a galaxy of amendments, please, from 249, razumkov, ruslan oleksiyovych, 249, 252, 251, third and fifth , give me two minutes, here is a conceptual amendment, after let's put this to a vote, it's just that the other two will be taken, mokon. let me clarify 249, 251, 252, 253, 255, that's right, two minutes please, honorable colleagues, this amendment directs the road fund to defense under earmarked expenditure, not to the general budget as the government is proposing, so it is proposed send 50% for development, procurement, modernization, and repair of weapons , military equipment, means, and equipment, and 50% for the payment of financial
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support rewards: to servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine and other military formations formed in accordance with the law. i will not say much, we proposed to remove the road fund and direct it not to the budget, just to the budget, as proposed by the budget committee and the ministry of finance, but to send it exactly to the needs that are necessary, that is, to the defense security sector, so very i hope you will support it, vote for it, thank you. thank you, dmytro oleksandrovich, i apologize, how many and what amendments did you say, or will you put them later? include once 250 friend, put, please, thank you, dear colleagues, amendment 252 authored by razumkov, it was rejected by the committee, please
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vote. no decision has been made for 21, dear colleagues, 250 , you said who will be, vasyl ivanovich, yes, vasyl ivanovich, mokan, please, 250, and tell me which ones, and 54, and 54, please, vasyl ivanovich, one minute, we are talking about the road fund and the waterway fund, which are proposed to be sent to the general fund, the logic of our team offers another proposal, so that they do not dissolve in the general fund. and their intended purpose was unclear, we propose to direct them to a special fund with such distribution 50% to be directed to the purchase, modernization, repair, armament and military equipment, 50% to be directed to the payment of monetary compensation for servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine and other military formations, i it seems that this will give
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an opportunity to control for their intended purpose and would like to hear the position the committee on this amendment, which is rejected and i will put it to a vote, thank you, it is about 250, that's right, please, if possible , the position of the committee on the 250th, and we will vote for it, look, colleague, the amendment is rejected, because there is a position of the committee, which provides that these funds will be sent to the general fund of the state budget and used according to the directions that you and i, together with the cabinet of ministers, will then implement, and your amendment may lead to an imbalance in the amount of 95.2 billion , the ministry of finance against, we have another plan regarding this draft law, the use of these funds, therefore the amendment was rejected, thank you, thank you, amendment 250 , authored by people's deputy mokin vasyl ivanovich and colleagues, the committee rejected the arguments of the parties, you heard, please
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vote. for 19, the decision has not been made, from the procedure, please, a second, i have been waiting for the procedure, please, thank you, rosslan oleksiyovych, dear colleagues, i want to address you. with such a question, i am analyzing what our colleague oleksiy honcharenko is doing, he repeatedly does what he goes on stream, and he he understands that he is attracting the attention of the enemy, he has been repeatedly warned not to do it, but he continues to do it, that is, i have reasonable suspicions that he is doing it on purpose in order to expose
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us to danger. he understands that it is broadcast on russian television , we have seen it many times, and i think that he should be warned if he is going to do it, but we can understand what it can cause. such a connection that rockets everywhere follow in his wake, that is, he commits a crime, in my opinion, and i believe that it is necessary to warn again, if not , then we will apply to the security service of ukraine so that they start, thank you, dear colleagues, now i, if possible, i will react, because they asked me to warn, i always at the beginning and at the end of the meeting, i warn all people's deputies, all those who have the status of a people's deputy , the person named by you, that is why i once again ask all deputies to adhere to the decision made by the parliament regarding the suspension of the activities of the parliament an hour after the end, but
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you mentioned the name of oleksiy goncharenko, i give him the right to reply, please, thank you, well, now for sure, friends, we understood why all the servants of the people fled from here, because they are afraid that a rocket will come, i understand, that is why we there are about 40 people left here, now i couldn't understand why , deputies, where are they, why aren't they there, why don't they go to work, someone, people write to me, it's friday, maybe they're getting ready for the bokha club or a restaurant , or something else, no, friends, it turns out that this is the question, i want to remind you, you and i in this hall were meeting in in february and march of last year, when the russian artillery was standing 20 km from kyiv, and no air warning signal would have saved us if they were hit, but we were here, not all of them, however, some were in the transcarpathian cauldron, some were somewhere there entourage, and somewhere immediately went abroad, but those who were, those were, and we know them by their last names , and now you say that it is a problem that people will know, and what, how do people in ukraine live in general, well, it will be air raid signal,
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let's go down, please, shelters, yes everyone they can live in ukraine , let’s move on, 254 petrunyak, zagruyko razumkov, please dmytro oleksandrovich there are 200. mokan , as far as i understand, wanted, no, no, and mokan has already spoken two by two, now we are already on the 256th, dmytro oleksandrovich, mokan, mokan, vasyl ivanovich, mokan has already spoken for the 254th time, now 256 is dmytro oleksandrovich, it 's yours too, let's go too, maybe five and two minutes, yes, can we do 10 and 4 minutes, as you say, 10 and 4 minutes, okay, then i'll count, 250, friends, me. i can't hear razumkov, i'm sorry, microphone, turn on the microphone, please
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ruslan oleksiyovych, there are 258, 261, 264, 67, 70, 73, these are our joint edits with roman vyacheslavovich babi, give him 256, 257, i will not insist then, and then further under 256, 257 , you do not insist, i give from the 258th. can you one more time, i'll delete you then 258 turn on the microphone dmytro oleksandrovych 258 261 264 267 270 273 273 thank you dmytro oleksandrovych please people's deputy babii please. thank you, ruslan alekovich, i am asking for three minutes instead of these six rights, please, three minutes i am asking for you. colleagues, center. the idea of ​​the bill is this proposals to redirect from local budgets to the state budget personal income taxes, the salaries of our military defenders, we are told that this is necessary for the development of the defense-industrial complex to protect
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the country, of course and without a doubt, this is the right goal, but let's see what tools are used to achieve this goal , and are these tools not available to us anymore? the provisions proposed to be voted on after consideration of the amendments by the committee are, in fact, an attack on decentralization and in fact the destruction of local self-government, on a smaller measures in individual regions, this is an attempt to bring local self-government, its bodies to their knees and put them in the position of beggars for money , in front of the central government, these are colleagues, what we started with a few years ago, before pro...' to conduct one from successful reforms in our country, decentralization. the bill is about tens of billions of hryvnias in revenue, almost 26 billion this year, and it is interesting that pdfo is withdrawn from
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local budgets retroactively from october 1 this year and almost 94 billion next year. or can we really be sure that this money will and will go, will go to the right things and will be used for its intended purpose. i , and my colleagues in sensible politics, have very big doubts about this, because we see the number and scale of corruption scandals that have been happening in the government recently . with purchases at inflated prices, it's about eggs and apples and so on. as soon as it was announced about the government's plans to take away, to take away the pdf of the military from local budgets, my colleagues in smart politics and i started receive numerous appeals from representatives of local self-government and they survive mostly thanks to these funds. i pay attention, they do not function, namely
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they survive. especially when it comes to front-line communities, this is how people live there, they count on the fact that the local government , the government that is close to them, and not the government that is located somewhere in kyiv, will provide them with at least minimal assistance for everyday life, our positions in that, my colleagues emphasized them, i will repeat that to keep the enrollment of fringe benefits according to local budgets at the current level, it is legislative for... the possibility for local budgets to finance the army and to redirect funds from the road fund and the waterway fund specifically to targeted expenditures for the modernization of armaments and for the payment of rewards in military formations, and not to the general fund, as proposed by the government. colleagues, i suggest you listen. thank you, uh, 259th, dmytro oleksandrovich, it's yours too, right?
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there, i understand, 259, 260, 262, 263 and 265, yes, ruslan oleksiyovych, please give me 259, 60, 62, 63, 65, up to 281, please give me 10, 7 minutes and let's go further, to the 281st, all yours, yes, please give how many minutes. ruslan, first, yes, thank you, dear colleagues, i wanted oleksiyovich, dear colleagues, and maybe it is possible first, ruslan oleksiyevich, please go through some of the corrections now, and then ask them to be put to a vote as part of this speech, because they are important, this is an amendment that establishes at the level of the budget code what is included in the revenues of the state budget fund. rural settlement urban territorial communities 64%. we are many
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they talked about it, i also turned to mr. kozbit today and asked them to take it into account, but they fundamentally do not want to do it, although it is a mechanism of pressure, precisely on the local authorities. we proposed by our command, the command of smart policy, that 70% of the military pddfo should go precisely to provide our defense forces from local budgets, but you also ... do not support this and block this process, i do not understand why this is happening , but the fact remains, i also contacted my colleagues, this correction is important, in case of acceptance the government's proposals to transfer pdf in full from the military, from military salaries to the state budget, so that there are blocking mechanisms, unfortunately, you also did not allow this, so that there is control over the process, how these funds will be directed, how they will be
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used , i understand that it is very convenient to then disassemble them into molecules and push them on a large construction, on other corrupt or semi-corrupt topics, or simply lose them, based on the fact that non-professionals will deal with this, unfortunately there are such examples, you know, they say about them, don't steal, don't bury, this is about some of ours... unfortunately, the fact remains a fact, and there are important amendments, such as those that propose to provide a subvention from the state budget, local budgets for debt repayment, in medium-term, term loans and interest-free loans, which unfortunately have also not been fulfilled, many other things that you and i unfortunately could not talk about at the committee, because the committee, you said today that there is no policy, but unfortunately
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committee, subcommittee passed in half an hour, c there are about a thousand amendments to this draft law, if i am not mistaken, you physically, even if i ask you to read them now, just read them, you will not be able to do it, if i am not mistaken, it is you, yuriy mykhailovychu, who is the chairman of the subcommittee, so unfortunately , this is profanation and forgery, i am ashamed to talk about it, because i really respect you as a colleague, as a people 's deputy, and i repeat once again that you, you work in the hall, as well as the ministry of finance that exists today, thank you. unlike other ministries and ready to respond to question, but the fact remains the fact, you didn't analyze the amendments, you didn't prepare this law for consideration, you know, it's like a troika meeting in stalin's time, when you are guilty because we
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decided so, not because you are, indeed, guilty in this or that crime or in that or that fault. that is why you did not consider the amendments of the opposition, you did not consider the logical, correct amendments, i am not saying that all the amendments should have been taken into account, no, i think that a discussion should have been held on some of them, but unfortunately this did not happen, and the committee then also there he gave three minutes to present the amendments, we submitted a large number of amendments with our team, and we did not engage in games at the committee, when all the authors of the amendments could come there and speak one by one, right? we came, there was only one, if i'm not mistaken, i was dmytro sergeyevich, and the two of us only spoke, that is , we did not block the bill in the committee, just as we did not block the 38th bill yesterday, because we wanted to make it
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better, unfortunately, the position of the committee, unfortunately, the position of the authorities, unfortunately, the position after that and office of the president, i am sure that the president will sign that bill without removing from there, without bequeathing the baby, without removing from there all other non-core expenses, such as the secretariat of the cabinet, the secretariat of other ministries, etc. udo state special communications, moreover, there is a lot of it in udo professional people serve, but you did not transfer these funds to udo, you transferred them to alleged fuel in order to somehow transport delegations, for 2006 uah 230 million, well, this is simply bullying our military, they see it, they that's what they say, i think i will mention it in the next speech, but, but i am ashamed of our work, because those who said that this is blocking the work of the verkhovna
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rada, today at 4:20 at 4:19, their hall is not there, you will confirm it, yuriy mykhailovych, you see that colleague. not in the hall, how can we work now? and your colleagues from the profile committee, and those who passionately, passionately told how one should love the motherland, talked about the dead, and now where, where did they go, why are they not in the hall, why do they not vote for the amendments and vote against, no if you want to vote for help to the local authorities , don't vote, press the red button, if you don't want to vote for the help of the army, press the red button, but it will be honest, not just to go to coffee shops to hide, but to work in the council. i think it would be as correct as possible, as correct as possible, and respect not only for us, for us to half the trouble, respect for the voters, respect for our defenders, respect for our heroes who are bringing our victory closer. i
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'm sure everyone in the room would agree with that, but i think somewhere in the room about, well, how many 30 people's deputies, if there are, yes, well, now i think that after this we will put the amendment to a vote and see, for example, the results of this vote, i think that it will surprise us, to put it mildly, so based on this, ruslansich, i will ask you to put 331 corrections, it is about 64%, 331, i heard correctly, now, because it is a little further. the 331st amendment, one second, the 331st amendment, there is such an amendment, authored by razumkovov and his colleagues, rejected by the committee,
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please vote. for 20 decisions were not made by factions turn further we have 283 arachamia rejected 284 laba 285 laba rejected arahamia and laba do not insist on their amendments no 86 laba does not insist no 87 lab not 288 not insist lab the same 289 lab do not insist 290 laba. .
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does not insist, 293 berezin does not insist , mazurasha 294 has already spoken, further 295, neklyudov, please, neklyudov, yes, yes, dear colleagues, yuriy mykhailovych, i want to address you, and here is this correction, it specifically concerns the text, which should be simple and clear, right there see what i propose, although it is of a technical nature , it is very important, because the text that i propose is clear and will be in the interpretation what is applied easily, restrained means and directed, see, everything is simple and clear , who, who receives and where it is directed, and look at the sex that you offer, which is paid according to the tax code and the relevant territories of ukraine and according to the significant norms of this code belong to the laws of the general fund of the relevant, you understand that i do not i understand why it was rejected, everything is simpler for me, people will understand. you, me, i understand that it will not be taken into account, but for the future, i very much ask, i have submitted amendments that will be for people, but for those who apply, it will be
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easier to perceive and apply, and i very much ask you to take it into account, well put to a vote, dear colleagues, the 295th amendment is null and void, it was rejected by the committee, please vote. for 18, no decision has been made. next, 2196 tsabalne insists, 297, honcharenko, this is an amendment that says, if the government really wanted what she declared, like to help the army, then this is the amendment that should be voted on and close the topic on that, she says, all the money from the pdf of the military, what goes to the local budget. local budgets, local councils should spend only on the military, on defense capabilities, on shelters, on everything
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that is connected with a full-scale invasion, well, please, let's vote on this, and that's it, and there are no questions, everything will go to the army , why are you taking the funds, you want to disperse them yourself in kyiv, already what is here, there is not enough for the split, we still need to take money from local budgets, well, that's it. it is simply dishonest, if the task is to help the army, why withdraw something, collect on some funds, well, we know, eggs for 17 hryvnias, jackets and many other things, then support my amendment, do not rob local self-government, amendment 297 honcharenko, by committee rejected, please vote. for 14 decisions, the next amendment was not adopted 298
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savchuk does not insist 299 yefimov does not insist 300 and vasylchenko and colleagues do not insist 301 vasylchenko and colleagues do not insist 302 kitsak does not insist 303 binin does not insist 3000 thursday, gerashchenko, please, please, and pavlenko, please, thank you, ruslan oleksiyovych, if possible, 304 and 745, i ask to put, if possible, two minutes and i will put 304 to the vote, please please, thank you, dear colleagues, dear ukrainians, look, we need to solve two very... serious problems, the first is, of course, that the funds go to defense and support the armed forces of ukraine, and the second, that
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the rights of local people are not violated self-government, therefore that a lot has already been said in this hall, and it is very good that we have at least some kind of later, at least on the record, but broadcast so that people understand the positions of the people's deputies, so it is very important to understand that both of these problems can be solved together. the first thing regarding the support of the armed forces of ukraine, we propose, and this is precisely the amendments that i am talking about now, is to direct funds from the pdf of the military, 70% of them to the actual needs of the brigades, at the same time, so that the brigades themselves formulate these needs, and thus we will definitely understand that the funds will go to the military and for the needs of the military, and how and from whom they will buy it, and so on, only... the full-scale phase of the war has lasted more than a year and a half, so the military will already
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advise what exactly and how they need, and 30% of these funds, colleagues, must be directed... to the needs of protection, because unfortunately, we remember what rusnia did last year, unfortunately, all the experts say that this winter will also be very dangerous , and the terrorists will continue to do their business, so we will need to spend the storage, for the arrangement appropriate premises, for quick repairs of the energy structure and similar things, where to take funds locally is to expose our people to danger and our position is that to direct funds directly to the military and also leave funds to local communities, this would be a very healthy compromise, thank you, please to support thank you, we are talking about 304, yes, that's right, yes, 304, but the 700, i don't remember , we also count 745, but we vote only on 304, i put to the vote the amendment of 304
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authored by herashchenko ionova, it is a committee rejected, please vote for 16, the decision has not been made, 305 rublev, does not insist, further, 306 zhmyrin. does not insist, 307, hancharenko, 307, this is an amendment that says that it is necessary to leave it in local budgets, but oblige them to spend funds on defense, on defense capability, well, this is the right approach, should these funds go to defense , yes, but do we need to take them away and destroy local self-government, no
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, on the contrary, i want to see when the military asks for help, for cars, for drones, for other things, i want to know that they received directly for such things from our central authorities, from kyiv, and nothing, on the contrary, billions of hryvnias were directed by the local self-government to this, how much was directed by volunteers, i will not say at all, it is on volunteers at the ukrvolunter-prom, on min-volunteers are the only ones in our country, so stop robbing local self-government and have some conscience at all. all your cities have accepted the appeal, where are you from, don't rob us, but you just cynically want to take it and spray it,
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amendment 307, honcharenka rejected by the committee, please vote, three 13, decision not taken, next amendment 300 ninth batenko , i do not insist, next 310 batenko, i do not insist, 311 mother does not insist, 312 southerner, please, you understand, i do not i know how much i had to say, but from september 12 and here i am turning to the ministry of finance, you immediately received feedback from us, from local deputies, from the whole of ukraine, that such approaches, which you proposed from the very beginning, will not pass, and you did not start working with factions, did not start talking with local authorities, to seek a compromise, and when you proposed a new distribution early this morning or yesterday night, and which mr. rahami is now writing about on facebook, you didn't talk to anyone, and this is a piece,
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a small piece of compromise, and before that you generally pretended that you did not hear anything, i am very proud that we still managed to convey to you and not only us, but also 400, 400 territorial communities that made a decision and turned to you, to stop this deriban, but we haven't finished everything exactly, and it is difficult for you, we put it to the vote, 312 is amended and colleagues, the committee rejects it, i ask you to vote. for 13, the decision has not been made, 313 amendment, vlasenko does not insist, 314 mushroom has already

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