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[000:00:00;00] mr. rahami, you have not spoken to anyone, and this is a piece, a small piece of compromise, and before that you did not even pretend that you did not hear anything, i am very proud that we managed to convey to you and not only us, but also 400, 400 territorial communities who have made a decision and turned to you to stop this deriban, but we have not finished everything, and it is difficult for you to vote, amendment 312 yuzhanni and colleagues, rejected by the committee, please vote , for 13, the decision has not been taken, 313
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vlasenko's amendment, does not insist, 314 the flu already reported, 315 yatsyk, not on 316 igor friz, does not insist , 317 shenov, does not insist, 318 , shenov does not insist, 321 repina does not insist, 322 repina does not insist, 323 repina does not insist, 324 repina does not insist, 325 mazurashov has already spoken , 326-pyvarov does not insist, 27 bakumov, please, oleksandr serhiyevich, dear mr. chairman, dear colleague, speaker, my amendment number 327, it provides that we will exclude policemen from the category of those whose pddfo will be sent directly to state budget from the local, it's simple for me
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interesting position: to the committee, why exactly did we take police officers and actually equate them to the military? police officers, after all, are mostly residents of territorial communities, they permanently live there, they have families, their transfer is impossible from region to region, from community to community, since they are in a specifically defined position, and the corresponding transfer, any which is impossible, is it possible to understand the logic why the policemen, because in this case... we can in principle theoretically add any category here, whose pdf will be directed to the state budget, including educators, including other categories. committee position, please. thank you, dear colleague, look, the position of the committee is not supported, the position of the committee is not supported in connection with the fact that the reduction of the share of the deduction to the special fund from the payment of the pdf servicemen and policemen in 2024
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and not... it, in 2023, will not allow to ensure in to the full amount of financing of measures of state preferential programs, which are referred to in this draft law, only from these the reasons are certain calculations, certain plans for this money to develop those two programs, so your correction is unfortunately rejected, thank you. oleksandr serhiyevich, you insist on placing, thank you. the next amendment, 328 laba does not insist, 329 mikisha. 329 miki, yes, thank you, ruslan oleksiyovych, look at what we are talking about, that we leave the military pdf 100% in the communities, and then we divide 50% for mandatory financial and material support of the defense security sector, this military unit, and 50 % remains in communities, but they should
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calculate the future reverse for the next year, buy ovdp for it, and the remaining balance can be used for their own purposes, well, we understand that the majority of communities will again use it for the units of the defense security sector, which is what they are doing, and have been supporting since 24.02, 22nd year , and they do it constantly, and sometimes, not sometimes, but quite often, communities allocate more than 50% of their military pdf to support the security and defense sector unit. therefore we propose to leave it so that they are so effective and continued to do their work, i put amendment 329 authored by mykisha and colleagues, it was rejected by the committee, i put it to a vote, i ask you to vote, amendment 329, for 16, the decision was not taken, the next amendment
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330 krulko does not insist. further, 332 babenko lyushniak and colleagues do not insist 333 razumkov's colleagues. please give me 10 minutes, i will then name the edits for which we will exchange them, and give me 10 minutes, please, where is 10 minutes, how many edits will you exchange, 20 is enough, you need more even, yes, good, thank you, please, 10 minutes, reset, start over, ah, ruslan oleksivych, we are currently sitting here, if you can call it a meeting, i got a call from the guys, the guys to whom we go to the front, one of the units that is fighting , who are really great heroes , i would like to congratulate them and thank them for everything they do, and they say that yes, yesterday was very funny,
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but they really want to cry, and they really want to come to kyiv and well so as to translate into the parliamentary language to look at the people to the deputies' eyes, or to pull these eyes somewhere. and it's true, it's very embarrassing to hear from those who defend our state, who bring it closer to victory, when for someone it's a risk of life, and for someone it's hee-ha-ha, as it was today in the hall, when there are half, more than half of the monomajority laughed, it's a shame and they will have to answer for it, unfortunately, to me... it seems that these are not just words, but this is the reality that every parliamentarian will face, that every
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official will face, i think not there will be those who can to stand aside, and yes, i, i showed him how many are now in the hall of the people's deputies, and i will not ... now retell the rhetoric and the words that he said to me, i think that you will not like it, and then it will not be broadcast, i am really ashamed of the way it is happening today, we are considering important bills , we are considering issues that fill the budget of the army, from now on i do not take the aspect from where you want to take it and steal it and where to transfer it , but the fact remains the fact, and if since yesterday they at least had an excuse, why they are not in the hall, because on the 11th everyone is very
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tired, they cannot work for 12 hours, so today the working day has not yet ended, there are almost no people's deputies in the hall, and i am really ashamed. in front of the boys and girls to whom we go to the front, but for some reason we are ashamed of that, for those deputies who are not here, and they are not ashamed, you understand why we are trying to destroy local self-government, because this is politics, big politics, like the prime minister said at the meeting when he did not want to include the mikish project on the agenda, when there was a conciliatory president, why are we going to give the local authorities the opportunity to do pr in front of the military, you should think about what we are talking about, about pr or about
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providing for the army, about the interests of the state, or the interests of the prime minister, you can't talk about this calmly, especially. .. when the guys from the front find time to call you and say, well, it’s a circus, they call the only legislative body of the state a circus, and looking at this hall, unfortunately, i can’t disagree with them, well, i just can’t disagree with them , rosslan oleksiyovych, i am several addressed you several times. unfortunately, i did not hear the answer, so i will tell you under the transcript, as they say, under the protocol, there is a decision of the constitutional
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court of ukraine dated october 17, 2002, which says the following, i will read, the verkhovna rada of ukraine is authorized to adopt laws and exercise other constitutionally defined powers . voting is also a determination of the constitutional authority, provided that the plenary session is attended, at the time of voting, no less than the number of people's deputies of ukraine, which in accordance with the constitution of ukraine is necessary for making a relevant decision. the fourth part of article 89, article 90, the fourth part of article 94, the second, fifth, sixth parts of article 111, the first part of article 135, the first part of article 55, the first part of article 156. that is, ruslan oleksiyovych stefanchuk, if you continue to hold meetings of the verkhovna rada in ukraine, you will
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violate both laws under which the verkhovna rada of ukraine operates, the constitution of the supreme rada, the constitution of ukraine and the regulations of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. therefore, let's not talk about it laws, passing laws, or pretending that we pass them, i continue to insist on voting. i will not, i will remain in the hall until the end of the meeting, i would once again like to thank my colleagues who are here, who probably have a conscience, but i would like to point out to you that no further voting is possible, i am saying this on the transcript, or close the meeting, or move on, if i don't go, i won't put amendments to the vote anymore either, colleagues who will...' have their amendments, i also advise you
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not to vote for them, but express your position yours, please, this is your right. but once again, the legislative body cannot violate the law of ukraine and the constitution of ukraine by adopting other laws. i'm not saying this for nothing, don't commit a crime for which sooner or later you will have to answer, just like for the kharkiv agreements, when here on... our colleagues told us that nothing will happen later, time passes, the government changes , it is necessary to leave the seat to someone, and to take it to someone, i would very much like to have someone in this hall among them, at the end of the speech, i once again wanted to thank all our defenders and to the defenders who fight for our country, who defend it, who bring victory closer, who have a conscience, who have heroism, who have an understanding
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of why they do it, and i advise many colleagues from the parliament to take an example from them, thank you all, summarizing, dmytro oleksandrovich, i understood that you will not insist on any amendment, such as the one that contains your surname, thank you, and colleagues, someone from colleagues will be fine, 333, do not insist, dmytro oleksandrovich, thank you, 334, do not insist , dmytro oleksandrovich, 335, nagornyak, does not insist, 336 petrunyak, razumkov, zagoruyko, does not insist, 337, mokan, does not insist, 338 mokan and colleagues do not insist, 339 mokan and colleagues do not insist, but 339, i'm sorry, mykysha, that's right, please, mykysha.
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ruslan oleksiyovych, look, there was an agreement, 10 minutes of speeches, 20 amendments, please subtract 20 amendments, no, no, there was an agreement that i would like it, there was an agreement that it would be more than 20 amendments, and an agreement, what will i like, it's how much, it's how much, i 'm asking until i don't like it, i'm interested, thank you, 339 don't insist, let's move on, 340 pipa does not insist, 341. aleksiychuk does not insist, 300 , 342 tymoshenko has already spoken, 343 aleksiychuk and colleagues do not insist, 344 aleksiychuk and colleagues do not insist, 300, 345 aleksiychuk and colleagues do not insist, 346 oleksiychuk and colleagues do not insist, 34
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kiselevsky does not insist, 349 bonder, doesn't insist, 350th prykhodko and bilozir don't insist, 351 alexieev, doesn't insist, 352 honcharenko, please, oleksiy honcharenko, friends, in general, well, let's find some logic, the fact that they are robbing local self-government , what is it to spray. well, everyone everything is already obvious, but here the question is, not only military personnel are taking away pdf, they are taking away pdf and policemen, well, explain to me what the connection is, that is... okay, the military, of course, all the money goes to the army, the military is physically not in a garden in these cities, and their families are there , well, but who cares, it’s clear, well, what are the policemen for anyway, the policemen live in the city, perform their duties, use the city’s infrastructure, why do we take away the pdf of the policemen,
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what in general that's the point, if you want to do it like that, then you had to do it at all to take away everything, why don’t you take away to teach... doctors, which is a little more shameful , but policemen are not ashamed, well, some, well, absurd , well, this is an absurd decision, there is no logic, i suggest removing the word policeman, who wants not to take away pdf 352 amendment authored by hancharenko rejected by the committee, please vote. for 15, the decision has not been made, the next 354 krulko does not insist, 356 the mushroom has already spoken , 357 arahamiya does not insist, 358 arahami does not
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insist, 350 a second, 358 arahami does not insist, 359, arahamiya does not insist, 360th, chornomorov does not insist, colleagues, 361, chornomorov and colleagues do not insist, 362 bakuma, oleksandr serhiyevich, does not insist, 363 tzabal does not insist, 364 - mamka does not insist, 365 mamka, hryhoriy mykolaych, does not insist, 366 razumkov, does not insist, 367, a second. 366, i will look now, yes, mykysha, you are here, please, well, it is still far from 20 amendments, even, you understand, well, you just want to speak, 366, please mykysha, ruslan oleksiyovych, look, 366 , 68, 70, 72, 74 and five amendments, i will speak for two minutes, and on
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i'll be there in the future too, i'll only have five performances and that's it, then i won't look at anything else, okay, 366, let's go right away. 66 360 eighth 70th 72 740 72 74th and two minutes two minutes please give colleagues when the full-scale invasion began, really the majority, the vast majority of people were stunned, as well as the local councils , but this is the first week at the most, then local communities, all the leaders of the deputies, the executive committee, they joined the defense of our state, and let 's be honest and objective, that maybe somewhere the citizens did not receive something, but the army fully received everything they needed, most of the communities, most of the communities received
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just help in creating and ensuring defense capability, and for you to understand that as of august 23, the total amount of funds was spent entirely on defense, on fortifications , on the provision of heating and lubricating materials and the like, more than 60 million hryvnias, listen again, more than 60 billion hryvnias were spent, it begins with a full-scale tuesday from 24.022 to august 23rd of the year, more than 60 billion hryvnias, and this is not to mention how much money was spent on social security for the families of military personnel. for children, for free food, and when they say that local communities do not help and do not give anything at all, well, this is nonsense, this is absurd, this is manipulation of facts, a few dozens of unscrupulous community leaders are spoiling the picture for 1,469 communities in ukraine, right? should
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be, and that is why we were just registering bill 9559, which will help communities to help financially... and provide material support to the military as a unit of the sector of security and defense, but unfortunately, it was put on the agenda, even though it was voted on, but it is not carried forward, because the prime minister denies it, further 367 petrunyak, does not insist, 369 zabal does not insist, 371 petrunyak does not insist, 373 tsabal does not insist, 375 petrunyak does not insist, 370. the sixth mokan does not insist 377 bakumov, please, oleksandr serhiyevich, of course, please, dear chairpersons, dear colleagues, this amendment again concerns policemen and rescuers. i sincerely want to tell you that very
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difficult to explain to the police, very difficult to explain to the saviors who, from the first hours of the large-scale war, began to fight the enemy in kharkiv, stood in their places , saved people, and now we take their contributions, their earnings, their contribution to the victory, and to the states and to the budget, to the public budget , and i will come to kharkiv and we have taken your money and clearly have not yet distributed it, i am just for what, i will support, i will support the project that is proposed and will go to the second reading from the committee and from the hall, but let's appeal attention to such things, especially regarding territorial ones communities that are constantly, constantly and to this day in the zones of active hostilities, thank you, thank you, do not insist, yes thank you, 378 tsabal i do not insist.
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379 razumkov doesn't insist, 380 petrunyak doesn't insist, 381st mokan, vasyl ivanovich, doesn't insist, 372 zabal doesn't insist, 383 razumkov, please, 383 it will be mykysha, right, please, roslav alexiyovych, 383, 85, 88, 90, 93, and write down 530, i will also remember it, and 93 and and 530 530, please, and i have three minutes, please, please, three minutes, thank you, ah, it is precisely about how local self-government really helped and helps the armed forces of ukraine, not only all units and military formations that are officially registered on the territory of ukraine, that is, the defense security sector in general and the draft law 9559, which was precisely designed to solve all these problems,
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but unfortunately, thanks to the prime minister of ukraine, who objects and does not want to put it on the agenda, it prevents communities from being able to do it on a full-fledged basis, on an official basis, because currently the legislation does not allow communities to fully help, it can help... financially transfer a subvention to the relevant military unit, but local self-government cannot help buy drones or any other material things and transfer them to the relevant military unit, unfortunately, and that is why it is already to some communities , those who helped after 24.02, the audit service comes first, and then the law enforcement officers, the police and even the dbbr come, and little by little the investigations are already underway, and exactly where 9559 where are the norms
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from there, we just signed into this bill 1037 to protect the communities from this, from this harassment when they help, and just create all the opportunities to quickly resolve those issues that the military units have, and it's much faster than while a huge one in the form of the ministry of defense can help, and they emphasize and support... this, i thank the local self-government, i thank mykola riznyk, who is the head of the pishnyan community, who came up with this initiative, andriy mazan, who gathered communities and we talked about all this, polished all these norms and introduced exactly what is necessary, but unfortunately, it is not supported, we introduced transferred from 9559 to the draft law 1037 these norms so that the communities could really continue financially. and the main thing is to materially support the defense security sector, introduce relevant programs, and whatever it is possible
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to do on an official basis, when mr. yuriy denies this and says that it should not be done on a permanent basis, we do not have it on a permanent basis, we propose for the period the actions of martial law to do this, why everyone is against and does not support it, it is not clear, the local self-government also does not understand why, they are ready to continue to allocate... billions of hryvnias in aggregate for all communities and support the armed forces of ukraine and other units, but they do not allowed so please let's support here and 9559 too. thank you, dear colleagues, the next one, 354 petrunyak, does not insist , 386 bakumov, oleksandr serhiyov, i have written here that instead of 386 the sixth, 391, 493, 498, 508, 511, 512 and 513, you ask how many three
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minutes, two minutes, please, oleksandr serhiyov, please, thank you. dear colleagues, here is a whole series of amendments, i will not insist that we put them to a vote, but i would like to announce their content to you, i propose that the corresponding pddfo remain in the communities, corresponding cities, to which the president of ukraine awarded honorary degrees title, the city of the hero of ukraine, these are those territorial communities that were the first to face the corresponding full-scale aggression of the russian federation, that resisted, that gave strong resistance to the enemy, and we are talking about the city of kharkiv, about the city of mariupol, about the city of volnovakha, gostomel, kherson, chernihiv, bucha, irpin, mykolaiv,
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okhtyrka . in order for them to be able to dispose of these funds , however, it is limited to make a framework precisely to ensure the needs of defense, security for reconstruction, for the reconstruction of dozens, hundreds of schools, kindergartens, social infrastructure, so i would ask for your support, however, realizing that there is no potential now. i wish everyone further fruitful work, thank you oleksandr serhiyovych, it 's mutual, fruitful good work for all of us and the speedy victory of our state.
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377 tsabal does not insist, further 389 petrunyak does not insist, 392 tsabal does not insist, 394 petrunyak does not insist, 395 mokan does not insist, 396 tsabel does not insist, 397 razumkov no, please, mykysha, i understand correctly, please, dmytro, but 397, 99, 400, 402 and 570 ninth, please fix it for one second now, 579 i i'll find it, a second, the 79th, now it's 579. please, yes, and me, three minutes, if, yes, three minutes, let's give it three, colleagues, look, the most important thing is that we're talking about what, where to get the funds, and how they should be distributed, we say, in addition to the road,
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in addition to the military pdf, where else can the money be taken. and we just smart politicians understand how some taxes work, some funds, where it should be used, how it should be used effectively, or has been used effectively in these, months since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, and we have proposals, and the proposals are such that 50% of the road fund that currently exists, to take funds from here, also to take from the net profit received...' commercial banks, state banks from deposit certificates of the national bank, net profit, which is about 100 billion hryvnias every year, take all these funds and redirect, redirect to what exactly 50% for the purchase of weapons, development, weapons, equipment, military equipment, uavs and so on, and the other
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50% for an additional monetary reward for... the military unit of the sector safety and defense, we believe that this is fair, and look at what we get, we get about 100 billion from certificates of deposit and 50% from the road fund, and there are about 90, as far as i remember, that is, we already have almost 150 billion an additional fund in order to additionally purchase weapons and also an additional monetary reward for boys and girls, and instead we take away the military pdf from the communities, so maybe we need to look a little in a completely different direction and get reports, money, and this is just completely within our power and parliament and government in general, and local self-government, do not take funds from them , on the contrary, support it, because local self-government is precisely the first support and, in general , the support of both the entire state and people in

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