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[000:00:00;00] for an additional monetary reward to our military units of the security and defense sector, we believe that this is fair, and look at what we get, we get about 100 billion from certificates of deposit and 50% from the road fund, and there is somewhere around 90, as far as i remember i understand, that is, we already have an additional fund of almost 150 billion in order to additionally purchase weapons and also for boys and girls additionally... a monetary reward, and instead we take away the military pdf in the communities, so maybe we need to look a little from the other side and get reports money, and this is precisely within the power of both the parliament and the government in general, and local self-government should not take funds from them, on the contrary, support them, because local self-government is precisely the first support and, in general , the support of both the entire state and people on
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the ground, because they the first who... communicate, and we, taking away funds from them, leave them with this necessary resource so that they help not only local civilians, but also, first of all, the security and defense sector, which they are already doing now, that 's why once from diploma certificates and about 100 billion, 50% from the road fund - that 's more than 40 billion, 45 billion, and these funds are about 150 billion, we send 50% to weapons and equipment. military and 50% for an additional monetary reward, this seems to me to be fair both to the military and to citizens and to the state and, first of all, to local self-government. thank you. thank you, please, 401 petrunyak, does not insist, 402 tsabel does not insist, 403 razumkov, no 404, i apologize, 403 tsabel does not insist, 404 razumkov does not insist, 405 petrunyak does not
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insist. 406 mokan does not insist, 407 tzabal does not insist, 408 razumkov does not insist, 409 petrunyak, does not insist, 410 moka does not insist, 411 tzabal does not insist, 412 razumkov, does not insist, 413 petrunyak does not insist, 414 mokan does not insist, 415, from the procedure, oleksandr sergeyovich, from the procedure , please bakum. dear chairman, our plenary session has already lasted for a sufficient number of hours since 10:00 in the morning, i.e. more than 7 hours. i ask you, as the chairman, to announce a technical break for 10 minutes, so that all colleagues who are responsible, who work in this room, can, well, accordingly, leave and take a five-minute break and start working again, if possible, yes, i think it's absolutely correct, a technical break, like
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yesterday, for 10 minutes. and we will start with 400, we will continue with the 415th amendment, 10 minutes and after 10 minutes we will start, i ask all responsible colleagues to return to their workplaces and in accordance with the status of a people's deputy to continue performing their
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duties, thank you. but all in all, i think you are me, i wanted to wave at you and you are learning selfies, i am doing it right. dear colleagues, thank you, the technical session is over break, we continue our important work, we consider amendments to the second reading and we stopped at... 415 amendments by
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tsabol he does not insist, thank you, 416 razumkov, does not insist, 417 petrunyak does not insist, 418 mokan does not insist, 419 tsabal does not insists, 420th razumkov doesn't insist, 421st petrunyak doesn't insist , 422 amoka doesn't insist, 423 zabal doesn't insist, 424 petrunyak doesn't insist, 420. fifth zabal doesn't insist, 426 zabal doesn't insist, 427 zabal doesn't insist, 420 eighth the buck does not insist, 429 zabal does not insist, 430 zabal does not insist, 431 zabal does not insist , 432 zabal does not insist, 433 zabal does not insist, 434 zabal does not insist, 435 berezov does not insist, 436 zabal, insists, 437
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vasylchenko and colleagues do not insist, 4-38 goncharenko, please, the 438th amendment proposes to leave, okay, 70% of the pdf to the communities, not to take everything, well, these are some compromises, by the way, dear communities, representatives, who is listening to it now, who will watch it, this whole struggle is not in vain, the government's plan was to make this decision today. as you can see by the quantity servants of the people, and there are about 15 of them left, there may be 20 in the verkhovna rada, this plan will no longer be implemented, so we must always fight to the end, which is what we are actually doing and trying to convey some opinion, it is clear that there is nothing to convey to the deputies here there are no deputies, but someone will watch it, maybe people at night, maybe someone later on youtube, i don’t know, and at least they will draw some conclusions about whether it was worth voting for such new faces, who
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are now robbing communities, or whether it is worth keeping in the parliament such people who are simply white and go, think about it, friends. next is 439 , and we are voting, 438 goncharenko, it was rejected by the committee, this amendment, please vote, 438 amendment, for four, show by fractions, please, thank you, gentlemen. colleagues, let's go further, er, 439, kitsak, rejected, does not insist, 44-a, gerasimov, please, artur volodymyrovych, ruslan oleksiyovych, five amendments 440-41, 42, 43, 44, please four minutes and 480, six
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edits, 5 minutes, maybe i won't even use these, look, maybe now i'm 440, 441, 442, 443. 4444 and 480 yes, now one second, i will find her, and how much do you want, 5 minutes, well, i think 5 minutes, please artur volodymyrovych, please start first for artur volodymyr, we are always interested in listening to him, please, dear colleagues, in fact, we are considering a very serious law, why, because you know, here the phrase blahimi must have been forced to go to hell, fits it very well. because we all understand that today there is a war, a large-scale invasion, because the war in ukraine has been going on for almost 10 years, and we must understand that today all the efforts of all branches of government must be are aimed solely at the fact that we help
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the front, help the security and defense forces, and in fact, this noble goal, to direct all the money there, it is very correct and we support it, but... behind this name of the law there are a few other things hidden , which, by the way, in a very wrong way, to put it mildly, i want to say, er, are being done, but in fact , what should be done is pdfo, personal income tax, it is received today thanks to military units, which are located in certain settlements, communities these settlements. and we must understand that today this tax on the income of individuals, for many communities, it is what saved them from almost complete decline, why, because to get money in kyiv, well, let's put it this way, everyone remembers as it was during yanukovych's time, poroshenko gave money from
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kyiv to communities, and currently, zelenskyy wants to collect it again in kyiv. but why is this not correct? because i will give several examples: communities in the south, communities in the east, communities even in the north, where hostilities, were there hostilities, so these communities, you know, they lose those businessmen who are located in them, people who worked there leave, many businesses are broken, and they don't pay land taxes, of course they don't pay taxes , which should be paid by the local people, are not paid by the pdf, because there are no physical workers, and only at the expense of the pdf of the military units, these communities get the opportunity to restore what was destroyed, not in large volumes, but nevertheless, they
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get the opportunity to pass and winter is normal, because many mayors with whom i communicated. at the end of the winter of 22-23 years, they told me that if it were not for the pddfo, the situation would have been catastrophic, many cities on the frontline would have frozen, but just so you understand, even these communities, despite the fact that for them these money, pdf, which they receive as taxes from the salaries of the military is critically important, even these communities spend a significant part of this money on the security and defense forces, buying cars, buying drones, buying diesel for these cars, because for you will be surprised, but if the car is not in service, provided by volunteers , then you
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will not be given fuel for it in the army, in the national guard, or from the border guards, well, i will not speak for the border guards, i do not know, honestly, but in the army, in the national guard, they definitely won’t give it, and it is the volunteers who close it, like many other things, only according to the ministry of economy’s ministry of economy, as of september 1 of this year , local communities bought drones for more than uah 1 billion only through prozoro, think about it these figures, and according to the calculations of experts, 45% of the pdf of the military, that was collected, it was spent precisely on the security and defense sector, and today they want to take all of it to the center with good intentions, as they say, yes, divide it and give it out again, you don't need to be a great specialist to understand one very simple
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thing: if the money goes directly from the community to the unit, it is much faster than it goes from the community to kyiv and from kyiv to the unit, and 10% directly to the accounts of the brigades, which is currently done, they do not save the situation, that is why i call for this do not support the law, keep this money in the communities, do not give it finally... to kill decentralization, the attack on which we have seen during the last four years and this law cannot be supported. thank you artur volodymyrovych. next, yuzhannina nina petrovna, please, your amendment 445. please, nina petrovna. dear colleagues, immediately after september 12, we started discussing with our colleagues, together with local self-government, we communicate with literally all regions and representatives, where we have a representative office. european solidarity, work was carried out in a circle,
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work was carried out on how to find the right one decision, and, well, it seems to me that in the ministry of finance, like nowhere else , in another place, they understand how difficult it was for us to make decisions in the 15th year about directing such a large share of the pdf to local budgets, please understand, dear prime minister wanted to centralize all taxes at the central ri for any government, this was the main task, and when the decision was made to decentralize, this is, by the way, one of the steps to be taken on the way to joining the big european family, we took this step, you now you are crossing it out, thank you, yuzhaina's amendment 445, it was rejected by the committee, please vote. for
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10, the following decision was not made: yatsyk 446 does not insist 407 bobenko does not insist 448 razumkov does not insist 449 petrunyak does not insist 450 horbenko does not insist, neither does his colleague. 451 horbenko and colleagues does not insist, 452 mokan and colleagues no, but mykisha is yes, please 452, please dmytrelan alexi 452, 55, 58 and 55 are honcharenko, i apologize, yes, okay, 58 and 586 and 2 minutes, you can 58 and 86, please give me two minutes,
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colleagues, thank you, well, the main ones, what, what and i'm talking, not in the first edition, it's just that, not only the military pdf , which will be, well, let's be honest and fair, will actually be taken away from the communities, not only that they will not have the resources to help the armed forces of ukraine, other units, in general the whole security and defense sector. not only will there be no resources to receive and support the families and families of military personnel, but in general i am also talking about the fact that local self-government currently does not have a full-fledged full-fledged ability to materially support the security and defense sector, precisely 586, my amendment refers to what is provided in the final and transitional provisions. asks to add a new point with the following content: to establish that during
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the period of martial law, local budget expenditures, which can be made from all local budgets, include... expenditures for financial and material support of the defense security sector, everything is very simple, obviously, and on the surface, the local self-government wants to absolutely legally, legitimately provide financial and, most importantly , material support to the defense security sector, and to get nothing for it, no from the auditing service, not from other auditing bodies, and most importantly from any law enforcement agency. not from the police, not from the dbbr, not from the prosecutor's office, not from anyone, that they were unable to help without authority, why this is not accepted, i do not understand, not in this, not in this exercise in the budget code, in 10037, i do not understand why 9559 , which allows it, everything is well written there, why it is also not done, i do not
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understand, local self-government is necessary. thank you, please, then we have the following amendment: pipa does not insist, with colleagues, prykhodko, with colleagues, does not insist, honcharenko 455, please, dear mr. chairman, i have a proposal, i have 11 amendments left, 455, 56, 456, 478, 491, 492, 514, 500 42, 552, 616, 744, 750, that's 11 edits, i'm asking for 8 minutes of your time, and out of those edits, i'll maybe put one or two to the vote, and one second, how much do you have left, i've got 11 edits, i've listed them from 455 to 750, more to list once, maybe by numbers, i have, i have, we are right here with artur
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volodymyrovych watching, 455, 456, 478 i instead of these amendments, i will give you minutes and i will put two of them to the vote, two of them that you can say right away , yes, i will put it to the vote, let oleksiy oleksiyovych finish, thank you, i will put 744 to the vote and 750, well, yes, okay, please, 8 minutes. thank you, dear friends, well, we actually, well, for me, this is the end of consideration of this issue, because here i am speaking now, and i will not be able to speak about it anymore, because these are the amendments that are there, although there will be more edits to confirm, but it will definitely happen
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not today, so i want to speak about the situation in general, this law is called in our country to support the army, the armed... forces, i just want to tell you what actually needs to be done to support the army, in reality, not for appearance, or - yes, not for a tick, but what should be done, i just want to, i understand that there is no one here to listen to me, then a couple of people in the hall, but i hope that someone in ukraine will hear this, and the most important thing is that the people who are there will hear in the trenches so that they hear what is being said about them at least in the verkhovna rada, and not just switched to their own. naboha, at the thai hotels, like mykola tishchenko, at the call center and his racket there , and everything else there, there are thieves and everything else that they do, so that’s why i just want to tell and say what really needs to be done, first of all, you need to start respecting the military, this is the most important thing, everything starts with respect, because
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what is happening today, when president zelenskyi. said: all of you will receive a thirty-year-old until the end of the war, all those in uniform, military, ssns, policemen, everyone, then the war is not over, but a thirty-year-old ended, and it's just disrespectful, and he didn't even have the strength to come out and say, you know, guys, i thought so, i wanted to, but something's stopping me, well, i don't know , you know what the...' interferes with someone, there are different options, but something is interfering with me, maybe like that dancer, but well, i can’t now, but i can’t, the state is not pulling out, there is not enough money, there is not enough strength, well, come out and say it's in people's faces and we can't pay, but if you want, i'll tell you why he doesn't come out and do it, and i'll tell you friends, why doesn't he go out and do it, he doesn't go out and do it, because

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