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in the coming weeks, that's for sure. thank you, mr. oleksandr, irina sampan is on the phone now, this is my colleague, she is in ashkelon, in israel, irina, good evening. good evening, but please tell me what the situation is in israel now, especially against the background of what happened yesterday, and this rocket that flew into a civilian hospital, in the gas sector, what, what. what is happening in the territory of israel, in particular vashkilon, is there shelling, does hamas continue to shell the territory of israel, are rockets coming from the north, from hezbollah, that is, what is the general situation in city? well, first of all, what's more, this explosion took place at the hospital, i was then in zderot, this city is even closer to the gas sector, to the cordo.
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with the gas sector, and i thought that the night would be hot, to be honest, after that, but in fact, nothing happened, there were shellings and it was very loud, but there was no such massive rocket shelling, but somewhere in a day in such in the south, in the front-line cities, shelling occurs quite often, and these are rocket shells, also if closer... to the front, then of course it is some mortar shelling, and regarding the humanitarian situation, i can say that the evacuation of the local population is currently taking place, and people are trying to be evacuated, of course not everyone wants to leave, people with reduced mobility cannot leave there, and some elderly people cannot leave, yes, well, that is
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if we talk... prozderot, hello, can you hear me, can you see me, yes, yes, yes, maybe, maybe, because i 'm in the middle of nowhere, that's why the connection may be interrupted, eh, i can't hear you, we can hear you and we see you, well, well, that's why there is an evacuation, not everyone wants to leave. mostly in such front-line cities, the rest remained, for example, in vzderot , where i was, zderot, it is 10 km from the front, so literally 10-15% of the population remained there, according to the city hall, if we talk about ashkelon, it was also reported that somewhere half of the population left, well, somewhere to safer areas, and the authorities and volunteers cooperated together to evacuate these people, those people who remained, do not want or cannot leave for some...
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reasons, then volunteers organized them, again still volunteers, they organized delivery there food, because nothing is working, in fact, nothing is working, only one market is working for the whole city, and the town is quite big, but the situation is better in ashkelon, i have already seen cafes working here, so it is better, because it is a little further from the front, and zderod directly reaches him very well, i want to say that zderod is one of the first cities that took on itself, took on itself the attack of hamas, that is, they went there, exactly at 6 in the morning, according to the stories local residents, it was six in the morning and many woke up then from shooters, they heard shooting in the streets and saw that downstairs, looking out the window , they saw armed people walking downstairs without uniforms, that is, they were in civilian clothes , or dressed in black, but they were not military.
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they understood, and then people began to simply run away, panic, shut themselves up in apartments, in these same momadas, in bomb shelters, and well, the mass shooting of people just began, uh, the city still can't recover, everyone, if you've seen it the famous video of the stop where the elderly women are lying, alone well, i was at that stop, and now, of course , everything has already been cleaned there, they made a mistake, not a single one. there is no blood, but those holes in the walls give the impression that something terrible happened there, but everything is cleaned up very quickly, bombed-out cars, debris and so on are immediately cleaned up. thank you, iryna , take care, please, it was iryna sampan, from israel, connected from ashkelon, er, next, we continue the conversation with oleksandr khara, mr. oleksandr, it took place today in beijing. putin's meeting with xi jinping, and
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xi called putin an old friend and invited him him to the new world order. well, we see on the one hand what. happening in israel in telavi we see what is happening in beijing, we see how the world is divided into groups in one way or another, the civilized world, and there is a world that is prone to authoritarianism, that is at war with the civilized world, what can you say, from what i heard and saw today in beijing from putin, what he looks like, with the support of sia, is confused. or in what phase is he now, is he trying on the role of a peacemaker in the middle east? well, of course this is such a breath of fresh air for him, because he is not traveling for known reasons , because he is suspected of committing serious
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crimes and is wanted by the international criminal court, but of course i am dealing with his engine room, with his repressive engine room, of course it does not matter, and he is trying to show putin that he is an important partner, he said something about the atakamsa, he said something about how, in fact, the west was to blame for what was happening in the middle east, that is, in principle, such a traditional story that is not worth to address attention, of course, he was pleased to see, well, at least one more guest, this is, i would say so, the trojan or trianon horse of the european union, who bowed before mr. lavrov, there is a video, it is in principle yes, it looked quite, you know, humiliating for the leader of a european state, of course, i mean hungary, and actually, putin now has certain positive points, he can show
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for his own audience that he is not isolated, that he decides the destinies of the world, that he implements this idea of ​​a multipolar world. although by and large including this event itself, it is very specific, the chinese invested quite a lot of money in their own geopolitical project , which was supposed to compete with the western ones, which was supposed to ensure the supply of raw materials to china, and for the chinese, access to primarily european, but also other markets, but this is a project that is somewhat lagging because it is not unifying different elements of the infrastructure. and of course what we see now is that even the only country in the european union that was a formal part of this project, it is trying to find a way with less losses to get out of there, i'm not talking about orban and i'm not talking about that sacic, who was also present there, but serbia is not a member
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of the european union, now the chinese are trying to focus on investing money, and despite their large debts , they have the very state of provinces and cities, they have free money, and they want to invest it in high technologies, in this way to ensure their own dominance, their technological companies, controlled, of course, by the communist party, the chinese special services, in those countries that are not feel this threat, or they simply would like additional resources, despite the possible loss of certain, let's say, political leverage even to their own states, on the other hand, you know, the project is very expensive for china and it is unlikely that it will be successful for china, because china owns a certain amount of technology and develops, well, huawei and above all 5g technology, this is really an advanced thing, but on other fronts, in fact, china is the
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same user and consumer of technologies that are produced in the west, only in china they are produced, yes, that is, in fact, there are these fabs where the chips are produced, but now given the confrontation, given the export control measures that the united states and allies use, limiting china's access to technology, the chinese are trying to create their own protective space with those countries that somehow depend on them, or they can influence with their money or projects, so this measure , well, frankly speaking, i don't think that it is somehow decisive, that it is an extraordinary breakthrough for china, well, i'm already talking about putin himself, and this one more image, that there is such that it has an alternative patch , by the way, the attitude towards this conflict, which is now in israel, at a time when china is systematically
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engaged in genocide, in fact, of the uyghurs, the islamic minority, is also important, so it has now come to the defense of the palestinians , trying to take certain bonuses. primarily in the arab countries, from where they buy a large amount of oil, i want to say that saudi arabia is the largest supplier, that is, it is the largest main market for them, and that is exactly why they are broke. between saudi arabia and iran at one time here that is, they are trying to play these things, but it is certain, well, no, dada will not give them these votes, that is, the global south lives its own life, and although it is a part of it, it is definitely not a leader, and it itself, i apologize, we have to conclude, sorry for our program, thank you mr. oleksandr, you for inclusion, it was the diplomat oleksandr khara, friends, we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our platforms on youtube and facebook, like our videos on youtube and facebook
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every week, the saturday political club helps to understand processes taking place in ukraine and the world. vitaly portnikov, host of espresso and invited experts, based on facts, give their assessment and forecast of the development of events. if you want to understand how our... will affect our tomorrow, watch the saturday politics club, every saturday on espresso. dear friends, i welcome you to the espresso tv channel, my name is lesia vakuliuk and today our guest will be alexander kwasniewski, a polish politician, public figure and the president of poland in 1995-2005, we are talking with mr. alexander, literally on the next day, after
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poland voted, this year, there was a record turnout in those elections, and so far the official results of the elections have not been announced, but there are exit poll results, and we will actually rely on them in our conversation with mr. alexander . mrs. alexandre. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, i sincerely congratulate you, first of all i would like to ask mr. because after eight years there is a chance that there will be a change of power in poland and the period of ruling the country of law and justice will end. the democratic opposition must have not a very large, but strong majority in the parliament, this means hope for poland.
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an american philosopher wrote that finally good news from europe, actually the results we have from the exit polls, are good not only for poland, but also for europe, for good not only for europe, i agree, during the last time we had quite depressing news , against european integration, as in slovakia, orbán once again won in hungary, also in the west of europe there are many anti-european, or anti-union, which
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are gaining strength, poland has opposed of a certain wave, a trend that we have observed in recent years, this is important. and this has been noticed, i can see it even across the ocean, because the new government in poland means that poland is returning as one of the main players in the eu, and that we will not remain on the margins, as in the time of kaczyński, we will not continue to be angry at euro-unionist claims , but we will jointly create european programs, projects, we will be in that main direction, european projects, i think here and here poland is important not as a country that creates problems, but as a country that popularizes various good ideas in the euro, a promoter of good ideas in the european union. to be honest, ukrainians were generally not
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interested in politics in poland until february 24 , 2022. their attention was more directed towards russia, due to the fact that we had shared years in the soviet union. but the russian invasion slightly turned the heads of ukrainians in the direction of poland, and now, of course, they are starting to study the names of polish politicians and the names of political forces. to understand what peace is, what a civil coalition, the third way, the left, confederation, can you explain
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to ukrainians what each of the name parties i listed is? that they can create a government in the next parliament within a month, a new government at the latest, because now i am entering the role of the president who has responsibilities, so i think that a new government will be created at the beginning at the latest, więc i think, że najpońsiej w polsce nowy rąd powstanie na early grudnia of course, the democratic one, when it comes to the civil coalition, is a party of a centrist nature and with various inclinations towards the middle, somewhere a little more conservative, somewhat more left-wing, but mainly partia proeuropejska.
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praktyczny partner, to będzie partia z kóją będzie mo and a party with which it will be possible to pragmatically solve the problem both in grain issues and in other issues that arise between poland and ukraine, and ukraine. the third way includes the oldest polish party, the polish party, polish agriculture with ukrainian agriculture, or european agriculture with ukrainian, than there was until now the ruling peace, which put
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the issue is quite firm and not very friendly to ukraine, because of all those embargoes , tutaj spodziewam się złoty takiego, here i hope for a more pragmatic approach to ukrainian affairs, but with the message that ukraine must be supported, since our common security depends on it there is a left, it is a social-democratic party and it will have a substantial influence, because without it it will not be possible to create a majority. i was the first representative of the social democratic party in poland, already a democratic one, and i must say that this result is somewhat lower than my expectations, i i thought it would be somewhere around 10-12%. the participation of the left will be very important, and here in ukrainian
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affairs i think there is clarity, it is a very pro-ukrainian party that wants the continuation of political humanitarian aid for ukraine. about the change of power in poland from kyiv's perspective, maybe i wouldn't memorize the names of politicians , because that will come with time, instead , i would like that dialogue to be started, since the affairs of ukraine will decide the future of ukraine itself, and also poland and europe, it seems to me that it would be good if at different levels. during the formation of the government , various ukrainian experts and advisers found good contact with their colleagues. for many important
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things for ukraine in the european union, because it will again become an important country there. and i think since the lack of activity, the suspensions that have lasted for the last. that the confederation is a party that used very anti-ukrainian arguments, they also switched to rhetoric that is unpleasant for ukraine. i think they got something out of it, but the confederacy ended up losing by results, that's the biggest the defeat of those elections, they will calculate... that they will have enough seats in the parliament to prevent the democratic opposition, which has been in power until today, from becoming a majority, but they failed, they will have 12-14 deputies,
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which is not enough. in the meantime, i believe that the new government will also understand the problems of ukraine well, will be ready for dialogue and likewise, because problems and tension will arise in different places, will be able to reduce and eliminate that tension, but through dialogue, through... will polish society after such intense election campaign?
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today it is not united, and that high turnout, it is the highest in the history of democratic poland and indeed a record, but it is primarily the result of emotions that were connected with those elections on both sides. poles are very divided, in my opinion, the poles have not been so divided for a long time, maybe even in the last 100 years they have never been so divided as now, therefore one of the tasks of the new government, the new prime minister will be to find a way to polish-polish dialogue, to of the polish-polish union, because if we we will remain in such positions, when some are here and others are. has, in my opinion, the new government
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must very seriously start this search for a polish-polish dialogue with various gestures that will show that they are open to postulates and sensitivities. it is worth remembering that it will take a long time to get out of such polarization, such division, it is not the case that one speech or one decision will be able to settle everything, there is no such possibility, it will be a long-term process. tusk, who will surely become the prime minister, already spoke in his election speeches about the need for that polish-polish unification, and i hope that this will be one of the main topics for this government, not to exclude anyone, but rather to invite cooperation, i say that it will not happen now, it will not happen quickly, but if we for a few years we will be more polite to each other, we will smile more at each other, then everything will work out
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, now, when you ask whether the poles are united or divided, the answer is clear, they are divided more than ever in history, it is a pity of course, but i hope , that you will still manage to unite, as a result of the fierce election campaign , there was much less news about the war in ukraine in the information space. i understand that it was extremely important to talk about the preparations for the elections, about what happened to the polish media and about russian aggression. how much time do polish politicians have to form a new government to elect a new prime minister? after all, this process will also attract the attention of the media, and as a result, there will be less news about the war in
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ukraine. has 30 days before convening the first meeting of the newly elected diet. 30 days means that no later than november 14, the diet must meet, that the diet is meeting, elects its speaker, and so on. and accepts resignation from the current government, i.e. murovetsi government.
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resign, and then on december 1, the sejm has the right to appoint a government, and then, of course, as i understand it, the parliamentary majority prynaczy , of course, the majority of the parlamentarna, jak pozidumi powoła donalda tuska i rądą, czyli w takim... that is, according to the longest scenario 1-2 december to have a new government. but the president can of course behave differently, can shorten these terms, for example, start consultations with political parties, through after a week or two of such consultations, he can say that he sees that the majority is on the side of those parties, and therefore asks them who they want to see as prime minister. he declares tusk
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the prime minister, that is, the whole procedure can end even earlier than by december 1. but it depends on the president and on what course of action he will choose, i don't know now, but at the latest on december 1, that is, in a month and a half, but when it comes to military news, of course it is clear that when the campaign is going on, these questions leave for second. topics of campaigns, they talked about it, some said that they are still helping ukraine, others that it should be continued and supported, so the ukrainian theme has not disappeared in this company either, at the same time, i want to tell you one thing, because it concerns the whole world, and ukrainians must be ready for that, and do a lot to prevent that from happening, something is beginning in the world, which is called the volume from ukraine,

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