tv [untitled] October 19, 2023 4:30pm-5:01pm EEST
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[000:00:00;00] next year and somewhere in the second half of this year, because in order to transfer them, a lot of issues also need to be resolved, and if the pilots have already conducted test trials of this machine there and they were satisfied, then it is necessary to prepare just the technical staff, however, that the relevant service , mr. valery, they will take care of it and take care of it then, the main thing is that the pilots are already here. and the swedes do not oppose. thank you for your analysis. valery rryabykh, military expert and director of development of the information and consulting agency defense express was with us, it's news time and anna java melnyk is already waiting for you. thank you colleagues,
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let's talk briefly about the important things. they are afraid of ukrainian air defense. russian helicopters began to attack from afar, so as not to fly into the zone of damage of our air defense. oleksandr shtopun, the spokesman for the united press center of the defense forces of the tavri district, said this. according to him, over the past week, russia has lost a dozen helicopters and airplanes. therefore, the k-52 pilots began to attack from greater and greater distances. ukrainian accuracy defenders of the sky increased the fear of the enemy and forced him to change his tactics. but this, but it has a bad effect on their effectiveness. tornado and artillery fire. the kharkiv prosecutor's office recorded new crimes by russians. today at noon, the occupiers shelled the city of vovchansk, damaged a number of residential buildings, farm buildings and private cars. villages of the izyum district were also under enemy fire. according to
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preliminary data, damage to private homes. russian occupiers attacked kherson at gunpoint for the second time in a day suburbs and the karabaal district - informed the mayor roman mrochko. he also added that the information about the destruction is being clarified, earlier it became known about three victims as a result of the morning shelling of the city. a 49-year-old woman has a contusion, landmine and shrapnel injuries, she... two men aged 60 and 39 were also injured in this condition. the occupiers covered the dnipro district with artillery, damaged residential buildings. ukrainian director and military serviceman oleg sentsov was wounded again at the front. he himself reported that this time the injury is not severe. caught the debris in the side - writes sintsov. let me remind you that in july of this year oleg sintsov was concussed on the front line.
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then to him. and his three brothers' lives were saved by the bradley armored car. apartments were taken by deception. law enforcement officers kidnapped a gang of fraudsters in the kyiv region, one of the perpetrators found low-income citizens and the elderly, gained their trust under the guise of employees of financial institutions, and offered profitable credit loans secured by real estate. then they gave under... for signature a document where real estate was registered to themselves, after which the victims were forcibly evicted. investigators established 11 cases of fraudulent possession of housing in the territory of the city of kyiv and the region, the perpetrators were detained. and there will be more, the head of the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs, dmytro kulebo, announced that the united states of america will supply us with missiles on
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a permanent basis. new and in larger quantities. according to the country's chief diplomat, the presence of the atakams in ukraine is the result of a direct agreement between presidents zelenskyi and biden koleba also expressed his hope that in the future the usa will give us missiles with a range of 300 km. germany is preparing a winter aid package for ukraine. this was announced by chancellor fern ulav scholz. according to the german leader in the new package. will have everything necessary for air defense , it is about the delivery of an additional unit of the patriot anti-aircraft missile complex, new complexes, as well as cheetah anti-aircraft tanks and ammunition, but whether taurus cruise missiles will be handed over to kyiv, the chancellor did not say. in ukraine simplified the algorithm for issuing an electronic prescription, from now on in the case of the first application, the patient can get it without
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a visit to the doctor. previously, this could be done only in the presence of acute or chronic diseases, the ministry of health said. it was explained there that the doctor should be guided by the patient's complaints and his...' about the current state of health. the department emphasized that such changes are designed to simplify the process of prescribing and dispensing drugs and at the same time minimize the manifestations of self-medication. that's how things are for the moment, i'll see you at 5 p.m. we thank the journalists, and now we are adding irina sampan, a journalist from israel, to our marathon. congratulations, ms. irina.
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good afternoon or evening, well, we wanted to ask you right away about the current situation, so the president of the united states has flown to israel, we understand that major negotiations are currently underway, in particular, it is about the diplomatic and military environments, it is said, well, the key story - it's dry proper operations in the gas sector, so we understand that this can start a fundamentally additional one cycle, i will not say escalation, well, maybe this is a certain step towards the third world war, but on the other hand, we understand that we cannot just forget or forgive terrorists, after what arab terrorists have committed on the territory of the state of israel, very specific measures must also be taken military steps, your word. yes, actually, now everyone is expecting this foreign operation, in fact, and i have a little reaction here to ukraine, in terms of the fact that everyone was expecting a counterattack from us, yes, everyone is there on
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social networks, experts, bloggers, well, when when the counteroffensive begins, it's the same here, everyone is waiting for this ground operation, because israeli society understands that this is a matter of survival and that it's either them or us, and therefore everyone is waiting for this event, it must be understood that gaza is a very fortified area, a very fortified city, for all these years, the islamist organization hamas has fortified it very well, moreover, moreover, they have built an underground city, there are simply dozens of kilometers of underground passageways, tunnels and more. .. one city that will be very difficult to take, so now the israeli army is preparing, pulling all its forces to the border, they have created such a military zone on the border with gaza, they do not let anyone there
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, but today we were in the city of zderot, which is 10 km away, from the border to the gaza sector, and there is no further neither journalists nor civilians are allowed in, no one, that is. that's why everyone is waiting, and in our country you can't work like that, so, for example, come to the unit and work, as in ukraine, for example, here you can't get directly to the front line, so from the very front, as they say, yes from the very zero positions, i can’t tell you, but the shelling continues all the time, now i’m in the city of azhdot, we returned from zerot, there was a strong shelling in the zodorot, i want to... take a picture of it, but the dome works very well, but we returned to ashdoot and the shelling began here as well, but the dome, the iron dome also shot down all the rockets that were flying. mrs. iryna, we in ukraine often actually
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draw analogies between the war in ukraine and the war in israel, we also see the same handwriting of terrorists, the same handwriting, how they work, how kill, mock the civilian population, what tactics are used. weapons methods, even the same drones, but are the same reflections, in fact, are they also noticed in israel, maybe partners, those politicians who came to israel, maybe they also notice something, or are similar analogies not drawn there? conduct, very well conduct, not only that, the expert environment, also military journalists who are tangential to this whole situation, and maybe even in ukraine, some of them, i follow their reports, and many people say that russian terrorism, and such islamist terrorism , it is so similar, in particular, as far
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as civilian victims are concerned, because my acquaintance spoke to those people who collected bodies on the territory of the festival, so where there was a festival, there was the most the dead, and they found very mutilated bodies, they found... i don't know how directly it is correct to say this on the air, but they found pregnant women with their bellies open, and that's why it's incredible, well... just terrible, and all these people who are engaged in bodies, they said what we saw in our lifetime, there is a lot, but we have not seen this before, plus to this, something else that is similar, a hybrid war is very actively being waged, information leaks, fakes, an incredible amount, a large amount of false information that spreads through telegram channels,
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in particular there was one a video of how a little boy is allegedly buried in gas and carried on a stretcher, i saw this video , several people are carrying it on a stretcher, supposedly to bury the body, and the air alarm sounds here, and everyone puts down these stretchers, runs in different directions, gets up this the boy and who was covered, with a simple cover of some kind, he becomes as if he is dead and also runs away, because the air alarm, and all this was filmed somewhere over there from the balcony, and when they fired, it was a difficult event, of course, which turned off and in israel and in palestine, and in those countries that support hamas, or in those countries where there is little support for hamas, this is a gas attack on a hospital, yes, of course, the parties blamed each other. there were already videos
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about the fact that this rocket was launched by hamas, well, from the territory of the gas sector, but it simply changed its trajectory due to the fact that the ammunition was of poor quality and it fell on the territory of the hospital, but of course the parties blame each other and yes, irina, we actually heard, we heard, we read, we know about these accusations, that actually, this moment , the moment... the tragedy in this hospital, in fact, also changed somewhat, the settings and conversations, because even joe biden now had his travel plan changed, he could not go, in particular to jordan. iryna sampan, a journalist from israel, was in touch with us, we are going for a short break, then we will come back, we will talk about internal ukrainian affairs. baby.
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joint and muscle pain natural comfrey ointment from dr. tys, ask at pharmacies, we wish you health and your family's pharmacy has comfrey 100 g with a 10% discount. there is a war going on and not only for territories, it is also a war for minds. russia is throwing millions of petrodollars into turning ukrainians into little russians. ukraine state. analysis and analysis of information about ukraine by russian propagandists, specific facts and methods by which enemy propaganda turns people into obedient zombies. let's counter the information attacks of the russians in the information war chronicle project with olga len. tuesday, thursday-friday at 17:10 on espresso tv channel. well, our colleagues from the newsroom have already informed you, dear
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tv viewers, that the verkhovna rada dared to gather and vote today. for the law. the project, well, in simple language, about banning the church of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine, we will talk about this and other things with yulia klymenko, people's deputy of ukraine , first deputy head of the verkhovna rada committee on transport and infrastructure, and nina yuzhannina, people's deputy of ukraine, member of the verkhovna rada committee on tax and customs policy, well, the key story - this is the state budget and specifics, well, but we also cannot bypass the analysis of this age-old draft law, which was voted on. glory. in ukraine, dear people's deputies, we congratulate you, hero glory, we did not believe that we would be able to vote, to be honest, i had the feeling that you know, somewhere there it will be postponed, wrapped up, moved, no, they voted like that, the only thing, i would like to clarify from you whose draft law
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was taken as a basis and in your opinion, whether so many amendments will be made, in order to emasculate it somewhat, or to achieve, so to speak ,... and to preserve this parliamentary consensus of the patriotic circles of the parliament. mrs. nino. well, i think that, since yulia was the initiator of collecting signatures and was actively working in the hall today, regarding in order not to remove this draft law from the agenda, she can explain everything in more detail, i want to say for myself, regarding this draft law, that our task before the second reading is to make it more ... toothy, as experts say in these matters, but the fact that the first step has been taken is very good, and it seems to me that even the chaos that was created in the hall today, first of all, emphasizes the fact that in general the church did not want to bring the issue to the hall and all the time said that no votes
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and so on, in fact there was resistance literally a few people, but they incited a large number of deputies present at... and the second thing i would like to point out for everyone, it seems to me that the draft law itself, those people who just walked around the hall and asked not to vote, they it was not read, because if we talk about this draft law, then it is only the beginning and gives us the opportunity to submit amendments to the second reading so that the moscow church is truly banned in ukraine without a long procedure that can stretch for years and we will make every effort to do so , thank you ma'am nino, well ms. yulia, we didn't even know that you would show such high civic activity and work in the hall of the verkhovna rada, because there is no way to watch live broadcasts, and we certainly didn't miss that one,
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so ms. yulia, thank you for the organization and help in this age-old event, i will not be afraid to put this word to the vote, thank you, well, i was not alone, in fact it was, in fact, if you can see from the voting, then in the hall of the verkhovna rada there is potential and at least 268 pro-ukrainian deputies are in the hall of the verkhovna rada councils, for which i thank them for showing their position and not succumbing to these provocations that took place in the hall, they really tried to actively knock this bill off the agenda, blackmailed, demanded various things , even demanded, bargained for some amendments in the budget in order to leave it on the agenda, well, in a word, it was just, well, honestly, a shame, i don’t understand how in the halls of the verkhovna rada on e, in the second year of the war, there are people with a pro-russian position who still dare , well absolutely in full voice
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to declare that such a thing cannot be voted on, the fsb cannot be left, the fsb cannot be left and thrown out of ukraine, and many other things, this is an indicator, but nevertheless, we see two. 268 deputies, 267 were on the screen and one of igor guzy's buttons did not work, that is, there were 268 votes, now we are our main voter, as nina petrivna correctly said, the task is to finalize it before the second reading so that it is effective and gives our law enforcement agencies and the courts all the possibilities in order to quickly, say, it was possible to, well, go through the procedure. bans in the event that it is really a proven fact that it is the moscow church and fsb employees, but this does not mean that someone is violating the faith or that someone there is going to ... liquidate or close something, all these horror stories, they are just horror stories, in fact,
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ukraine is a very tolerant country, in ukraine, freedom of religion , well, i would say, is probably one of the highest in the world, therefore, we will continue to work and try to convince those colleagues who today still did not have the courage to vote and to take this first epoch-making step, mrs. yulia, mrs. nina, in fact, some experts have already commented on the decision to vote in the first reading, and they make such remarks about the fact that, in fact, the mechanism that should lead to the banning of the russian church in ukraine is quite long, difficult, and that it can actually last for many, many years, even after the approval, after the implementation of this law, which can be done right now at the stage of amendments to the second reading, so that the procedure will be shorter later, yes, because we are
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we have already been waiting for many, many years, and here already after the law, we can wait some more, then you can, you can and will forget, for example, the first element is to prove that a certain religious organization really has a center in russia, yes, they have been proving it here for a year , that no, nothing like that, ms. nina, please, the first question for you, and then, ms. yuli, i would like to ask you, today i talked about this with mykola knyazhytskyi, who is the author of a similar, but completely different, procedure of the prohibition law of the moscow church, and of course he like an expert in this case, explained that all these procedures, which are now in the basic adopted law, actually send us for a court decision, which can be appealed at the first, second instance, and there, in addition to even after, or rather before appeals, there may be such a procedure of elimination
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shortcomings or, the situation that is developing, and all these procedures mean that in fact it can be a protracted process by hand and the church will work, so here i hope that it will be possible to bring this draft law to the second reading in time, it will not postponed again for a year, i don't know, for the next convocation, but sooner. will be worked out after the amendments are submitted and to what extent the authorities will be able to take into account these amendments, which are actually needed for the ban of the moscow church, otherwise it will just be, you know, moral satisfaction, and in fact we will not stop the moscow church from operating in ukraine as a church that is filled with people who propaganda is being promoted all the time, glory to the russian popes, who all the time give
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a different idea to the people, believers, about the large-scale invasion of russia into ukraine, and this already leads to the fact that when we see in such a large number of people who help the russians here on the territory of ukraine, they are mostly the very people in whose heads in such churches they kill the propaganda that is now harming all our soldiers, us, ukrainians, and in order to bring victory closer, this is one of the main tasks and one, one of the main projects of ms. yulia, please, we also ask you to comment, in fact, in what way it will be possible to complete all these corrections and whether you, how do you miss , will there actually be resistance, because when you walked with everyone agreed to support the bill, it was one thing, or will you now go in the second round and actually also convince and
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ask to sign that people are ready to make these or other amendments, how will it look? well, let's start with the fact that we need to maintain a balance between the fact that we really close, block the russian channel, the fsb, in the ukrainian churches, because this is one of the main centers of influence on ukrainian citizens, and this... question of national security, but on the other hand, we should not violate the basic democratic principles, so that the same international partners do not accuse us of the fact that we do not give religious organizations the opportunity to work there, or there are other accusations in some way, and these accusations can be, since the anti-ukrainian forces can promote them and present them in a certain light, but... i think that between the first and second reading we will find a mechanism together with law enforcement agencies, because we will also make amendments,
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which were sent to us by the security service of ukraine. and they wrote a whole list of what they need in order to work effectively , anti with anti-propaganda and fsb church, let's say, manifestations in ukraine, and let's make, i hope, this mechanism effective, so that it really does not drag on, there for decades , but let's say it directly, the eradication of thesbeshny, kgb, this, you know, as cancerous. from the ukrainian body and not only in the church, but also in state bodies, in the parliament, let's say, let's say directly, we saw a lot today representatives, pro-russian, active, so it will take time, unfortunately, so it won't take, it won't happen overnight, it will take years to get rid of this fsb influence,
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because it was planted by the russians in ukraine, not even for decades. and probably for centuries, for sure, for centuries, ms. julia, ms. nino, i would like to ask you about the draft budget, it was also adopted in the first reading, but i would like you to compare two figures, revenues in the amount of 1.746 trillion hryvnias, expenditures in the amount uah 3,308, so to speak, this one is in the middle we will have something to cover the gap, and in general, what is the situation with money in this project, well, for me, as for an economist, the most important meetings this year were the very last ones, where we considered the draft budget for 2024, i worked closely with the proposals that i submitted, and our faction submitted, and so accurately prepared today, after studying all the proposals that were accepted by the committee and
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proposed in the hall of the verkhovna rada, those numbers that you named, they, you know, general, can cause only surprise, what kind we have a huge budget deficit, but since this is already the second budget during a large-scale war, we know and understand that our own revenues go exclusively to the security and defense sector, all our, all our other life is financed by partners, donors , and these are huge sums that are needed in order to maintain the provision and functioning of the functions of the state and the social sphere, and that is why such a huge amount of the budget deficit is 42 billion us dollars. what can we say in
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conclusion, the negotiations about whether we we will get help in what amount, they are ongoing, in fact there is now ... to date, a small confirmed amount, but i am sure that the negotiating team will continue to work and it will still be possible to get this amount of help, but i did not want the authorities and continued to remain silent and did not warn that this could happen, that our situation will turn out to be worse, to the worse side, and we will not be able to fully ensure the revenues of 42 billion, what will happen then, what will be financed in the first place, what expenses will be cut what the minister of finance spoke about from the rostrum of the verkhovna rada, the other day, that the budget will then work in a completely different way, i agree with him, but i do not agree with one thing, among those initiatives that were submitted in the form of amendments to the budget,
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a lot is taken into account, not the first... regular and not so urgent expenses, but only the satisfaction of finding votes in the verkhovna rada to vote on the draft law. when we looked today at the 101 motions that were taken into account, these are shallow handouts that will be voted on, listen, well if this is the military budget, which, by the way, i cannot call this budget that i am interrupting, but it looks like this conversation is actually a little longer than the people's dept. member of the verkhovna rada committee on tax and customs policy and yuliya klymenko, also the people's deputy of ukraine, the first deputy head of the committee of the verkhovna rada on transport and infrastructure were with us, we say goodbye with this, have a peaceful and safe evening, and then the news, anna eva melnyk already has a selection of the most important
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