[000:00:00;00] they produce 15 million, although, in fact, it is 200 million, it is for four shots, 4-100 shots a day, they spend more shots, it is unlikely that north korea will be able to add another 15 million per year in order for them to have not 4,100, but 8,200 shots per day, and they need more , again, that is, in them, that is why they desperately need a pause, the same with rockets, they are as much as you can mathematically break everything down here, and therefore they will not have enough. their resource will not be enough to support how many are there they want to call up a million, well, they can call up, god forbid that they have enough, isn’t it debok, that they have enough lines of mosin rifles, that is, that’s all, so to say, here are two words, they really need a break in order to have time to work, to make more, more quantity, can build a new factory, but it will be for tanks, for example, but for

this it will take at least a year. do they really need a break to accumulate resources, we can, we can talk further, in fact, but now i want to return to that topic from which ramshtein started on the 16th, let's join our conversation, ivan stupak, a military expert, a former employee of the sbu in 2004-15, mr. ivan, congratulations, yes, congratulations to the studio, thank you for inviting us, thank you for joining us, the previous 15 rammsteins were named by virtue of what the key theme was. what were they talking about, what kind of weaponry, they called it tank, then military, this 16th, maybe it should be called, i don’t know, winter, what would you call it, how would you describe it, how important it was current, well, it is current important, i can’t say clearly there, for example, there is an anti-aircraft defense system there, because there are shells going there, spare parts are going there, all the things without which it is impossible to stay at the front now,

unfortunately, our citizens, they... it has to be, but that there are no planes, but it’s not interesting, then, bye, what is ramshtai there, what did they go there for, spend money, but how much equipment is going, how much light equipment, how much heavy equipment is going, how much of this equipment will go in the future and it is arranged precisely during such armsteins, don't you forget, it's the same it's not just now that they have agreed, maybe what is going now was agreed on the fifth, sixth ramstein, only now it has gathered in a pile and that's all. is going to ukraine, so all these ramsteins should be treated with respect and gratitude. well, why do i say winters ? defenders to pass the winter period, also, precisely because of this, such

an association arose. no, i understand that yes, it is indeed winter, there we are selling additional missiles for the air defense complex, everyone understands that the russians, well, they will, like last year, do something, yes, it is unlikely that they are here with you, yes, that maybe they have become convinced since last year that nothing works, shelling does not work, so there is no need to do them, of course, what they will do is not a question of how intensively, how widely, how geographically extended, on whether it will be only electric, thermal generation, will it be there, for example, food products, yes, for example, elevators for grain, will they be or not will they be throughout the territory of ukraine, will they try to make an artificial famine for ukrainians, as an option, why not, that they it prevents them from doing it, without light they can’t do it, but without bread they can’t do it either, and here you see, they are handing over to us such an experimental, but a new product, this paladik, it’s a shahedyka, it’s

already been named, such a... platform with an automatic cannon 2022 year of production, well, really interesting thing, i think she will show herself very, very well. ugh, well, let's see, mr. ivan, i would also like you to comment on the statement of the war criminal putin , he was asked how things are going with the ukrainian counteroffensive, he said, they say, that he choked there, but we are preparing for new offensive actions by ukraine , and first of all, how the enemy can prepare, and about the results, as assessed at least publicly. the kremlin is talking about these statements regarding the ukrainian offensive operation, and i will explain to you why such things appeared, and to putin, when they report there every day, there several times a day, and all reports are brought to him, exclusively in paper form and exclusively in the size of one and a half sheets of a4, yes, and at the end of such a report, it doesn’t matter who brought it, it

was brought by counterintelligence, it was intelligence, or there is the internal political bloc of the kremlin, they always offer something at the end, yes, there is a forecast of the development of the situation, yes, or proposals, there, what should be done, so that this director, dictator, does not just sit there, inventing, and they already give him some proposals, same with the forecast, it can be...' the forecast is there , if the situation is very hot, then there the development there is 24-72 hours, if the situation there lasted a long time, then it is possible there a week, two, three, maybe even three two months, it is possible when we they brought this report about the ukrainian offensive, one of the forecasts was that the ukrainians will try to move on, he simply voiced it, that it does not end there, he understands it, but as always, the ukrainian... counteroffensive failed completely, here he is repeats the mantra from the very first day of our promotion, and the father's preparation for, as he he says, new offensive actions on the part of ukraine

, on the part of the ukrainian defense forces, so what could it consist of, we actually saw that the occupiers had essentially prepared for the ukrainian offensive operation in some directions, and the processes of entrenchment, the construction of these concrete dugouts there , mining, it... is constantly ongoing, that is, if, well, did they, for example, build several of these lines of defense there, well there, yes, syrovikin’s lines, these, the vanities, however, ah, does this preparation take place constantly , yes, that's about it i would like to? well, we don't know, dostamen, it's only our intelligence that knows what's going on there, but we've already seen such pathetic reports that they released several new machines, agricultural, yes, these are mines, well, these are cars that mine remote territory, they ... so very simple, they scatter mines, there around them, the only thing, i can't say, there, whether they scatter randomly, or there is some kind of conditional programming, there is one, two, two, three, three, three, two, one, four, mines, but they are really

mined in such an emergency mode, they are trying to make it difficult for our military to advance, that is, they are working on it, people are being pulled up, we see, in the last two months, in this south, yes, there, if earlier there were several... units there according to the deepstate map, now we have to to increase this deeppstate map, because there is just the number of these rectangles that reflect the russian military group, it just increased, i think five times, gentlemen, let's talk about what, in fact, what will be the tactics of the enemy, in the near future, that we will to observe, the closer to winter, mr. oleksiy, what it will be, on which, on which, on which, to prepare in principle, yes, the president of ukraine, in particular, reported, in the air force they talked about the fact that we , in order to defend ourselves , we can rent air defense systems, it’s in general, it’s a bomb , just what do you mean, well, the fact is that they can’t transfer a large number of means of air defense to us, including our

partners, because they themselves need it, they too , certain standards must be fulfilled, certain untouched reserves, and i think that there will be problems within these countries, why did they transfer everything that can be leased , that is, they just transferred it temporarily, but we, if we destroy what we transferred, then we will transfer what transferred earlier, already, as they say, in vain, so after the victory, after the victory, of course, to date, i am sure that there were agreements that if there is a harrow of god, some kind of air attack will be launched against these countries, well, they are at least left the anti-aircraft defense to repel at least the first raid, and if necessary will be, then i understand that we will return all these funds at the first request, but what does this mean? it means that everything relieves the tension within these societies, it's not transmitted, it's just used, well it looks like, you know, yeah, i honestly, it's the first time, because

i've been in the military, i've come across this, so that lease weapons, well, that's a creative approach, sir, and it could be , let's say, a certain way out for, well, i understand that probably an attack missile... it's difficult to lease, but still, yes, oh strategy as far as it can be successful not only with ppo , for example, come on, let's fantasize, look, we ask for a lot, give us, give us, for free, but we forget how much this equipment is worth, it's 10 million dollars, and 200 million dollars, and maybe 9 billion dollars, as a patriot is worth, that is, it is big money, big funds, foreign countries paid for them, they too, well, let's imagine. to yourself that you bought a car, and then you give it to some relative of yours for free, well conditionally, well it is very difficult to transfer, once yes, well second, third, it is very, very tense, but when there is an offer , okay, don't give it to us for free, give it to us for rent, we are ready

to pay certain amounts, and then after the war we will return it, then politically this decision is taken very calmly, that is, and well, we don’t give, we’ll get it back after the war , if of course it’s not damaged, if it’s not... destroyed, we’ll earn something from it, of course, there’s some nominal amount, but to sell this transmission, well, in quotes, sell to your population, your own position, then it will be more normal, perceived. and look, these are western countries, these are countries with a capitalist view of the economy, if you ask for free, you will get a little flow, and if you offer, and i will buy from you, oh, then new, completely new volumes, horizons open up for you, yes there you can buy this, and this, and this, it’s like an application , yes, you download the free version, and if you buy, it’s more advanced for money, then you’ll get more different... chips there in this in this in this application and more

services, as well as with this weaponry, so i don't see any big arguments on this topic, the only thing that is correct is to lay it out legally. mr. ivan, somewhere similar experience has already been used, when , for example, the same pppo systems were also rented or provided in some countries, or is it the latest laptop and offer from ukraine, unfortunately, i am not ready to say, i do not have such information, but again, lease and buy, it. it is much better than asking, once again, we will be given, well, a trifle, yes, from what we ask, and when we say, we are ready to buy, okay, now your viewers will say, well, we don’t have any money , i suggest, okay, you can take a loan, okay, you can get into the issue of the country’s survival, about debts, then we will deal with it later, don’t forget that in the 1990s, ukraine was also in debt, but if we put our diplomacy right , communicate, show that we are ready to live in society,

then part of the debt will be written off, 20%, 30, 50, well, of course, not 100 %, but you can calculate it and then you can prolong the payment of these debts, i don’t know, for 5, 10, 15 years, why not, thank you, thank you, we fantasized, we fantasized, we hope that fantasies can come true, especially when they are really so, beautifully interpreted, ivan stupak, military expert. a former employee of the security service of ukraine was with us in 2004-15, thank you for the conversation, well, then we will talk about the directions in which the occupiers are still advancing, in particular, we saw a serious situation relatively recently in the kupyan direction, so we will talk about it is further, but now i would like to return all the same to avdiyivka, but i want to understand, right now there are such hostilities that in our country the military told us that there, for example, two

sunbirds in one place, they have never seen there, for example, once for these one and a half years of war, what the enemy wants to do, and the enemy, it should become, let's say, a new kind of victory in quotation marks, as they tried to sell bakhmut to the russians, yes, does it really have such strategic importance that they are ready there put, a large number of people, because i will remind you, avdiivka, well, she defended herself from the 14th year, and that is... well, to defend it, there are already certain conditions for this, and you can tell us, not only about, tactical, yes, but about strategic plans for this city of the occupiers, well, they constantly wanted to seize this city, it is like a bone in their throat, because from this bridgehead, we can control the whole of donetsk with fire artillery, so they cannot, do not do anything significant in donetsk, well, some hub from, because they understand , well , fire control is still maintained, we do not

shoot at civilians at civilian buildings, for the civilian population, but we have this opportunity, if they start building something there, and they would really like to do it, then we will attack it, secondly, they can consider it as our springboard for the liberation, if not of all of donetsk, then well, right away, at least horlivky, a suburb of donetsk, the loss of even a part of this city for the russians is as sacred as the loss of crimea, so they, they are very worried about it, and another reason is to distract our forces from offensive actions on south, well, of course, this on the eve of president putin's election, they don't have elections there, they just have an expensive bureaucracy, an expensive bureaucracy , yes, they need, they need, some, well, earlier there nicholas ii needed some kind of victorious war

in the fifth year, they attacked japan, and they got according to the full program, that is why the romanov dynasty may have ended, but putin needs to have already started it, he needs to have at least some victories in this war, to show the voters that somehow, everything is going according to plan, it is paying off, and this is what i think happened, well, maybe main goal, effort, capture avdia, you understand how much, he has already set the task of putin, we heard about it, by the end of the year, completely, capture what. as it says, to go to the borders, the administrative borders of donetsk-luhansk, we remember that it was several dates already, it was set, until it failed, now until the end of the year, next, so this is political, this is a political decision, political, a political order, not a military order, so i think that avdiyivka is also a political order, not a military one, what is the difference, two words, between political and military, military, they do not look at the political map, well, we, well, them, well, they don't care, we are fighting for certain heights , ladies, certain things that are important to god, where

the administrative border passes, according to the political map, it does not matter at all, but if the tasks are set precisely there are some limits to the political border, then this is already stupid, that is, from the point of view it may be nonsense, but he needs it for his rating, for some other purposes, he gave such an order and so the order was a political order to capture avdiivka. thanks for helping me figure it out, thank you, oleksiy hetman, a military observer, a participant in the russian-ukrainian war, a reserve major, joined us in the studio, thank you for always finding time for us, let's move on, and here i am already covering the offensive of the occupiers in the kupinsky direction in kharkivsk about what is the situation there, we will now find out firsthand, because our next guest directly knows what means and what goals the occupiers are trying to pursue right there in the kharkiv region? so, indeed, the occupiers are trying to break through to kupyansk, on heavy battles continue in this direction. russian

troops actively use aviation and continue to storm our positions. this was reported by the head of the press service of the steel border assault brigade, under...' colonel ivan shevtsov, according to the military , despite the constant attacks, the russians are not making any progress, the ukrainian defense forces had time to prepare and create high-quality mine barriers and anti-tank trenches actually , with us is ivan shevtsov, head of the press service of the steel border assault brigade, lieutenant colonel. mr. ivan, congratulations i congratulate you, please tell me what the current situation is. in the kupien direction, is the occupier really so furious there? well, over the past few days the situation has not changed significantly, it remains quite tense, the enemy is trying to get to

favorable firing lines, go to the left bank of the oskil river, capture kupyansk, kupyansk is a nodal point, but as you have already said, so far he has ... nothing works and nothing will work with the help of our defense forces. we had enough time to consolidate on these positions, to implement fortifications, mine-engineering barriers, anti-tank ditches, and currently the defense forces are holding on in this direction. and what, let's say, is the peculiarity of the conduct of hostilities in that particular direction, is it different from, for example, there, we are seeing very hot things now in the avdiiv direction, in particular, as far as i understand. and a certain part of the forces of the occupiers from the direction in the kharkiv region were dragged there, well, during the war, each section is a separate story, in each section, of course, there are some differences, and as for the kuppian direction, for the past day,

the defense forces repelled 15 enemy attacks, while just three or four days ago the enemy carried out so-called meat assaults by large groups of people. over the past day , we have not observed such meaty assaults, the number of servicemen who go on an assault has decreased, this is up to 10 servicemen in small groups, and the number of artillery and mortar attacks, as well as the use of aviation, has increased over the past day in this area there were 16 cases of attacks by guided aev bombs, well, in general, the enemy increased the number shelling mr. ivan, who are you dealing with, who is on each front line , these are special forces, who, who are these people, mobilized, maybe, well, the area is quite

large and various military formations are located opposite us, this is the first army, 20- and the army, and the servicemen of the so-called units, storm storm prisoners, as well as bars units and used servicemen mobilized from the lnpr and the dnr. which of them is distinguished by what? do you observe any peculiarities, perhaps among the lpr, dpr, some, i don't know, special motivation, maybe not. they have no special motivation at all, but it is precisely for these meat assaults that military personnel, storm, stormz, bars and military personnel of the zln are usually sent. the dnr, their regular troops are mainly gunners, tankers, i.e. such more specialized

military personnel, and they are at a greater distance from the front line in order to make it impossible to damage their equipment. ugh. mr. ivan, i would like to talk a little about the work of the steel border brigade, we understand that the basis there is border guards what the specifics of the work of the brigade, let's say, can reveal. some specifics, because to our viewers, of course, we always listen with interest, about such subtleties of your heroic work. in general, the very specificity of our brigade is that we are the only assault brigade in the state border service, which was created in the offensive guard program, and for more than four months we have been directly in the combat zone in the east, our servicemen have already participated in bakhmut and took part in the liberation of the tick and actively now

take part in the defense precisely in the kupinovsko-lyman direction, the difference from other units of the state border service, first of all, is that we have a large staff, we have completely different, different equipment, different weapons, and our very special feature is the fact that we have our own artillery, we have our own mlrs calculations, we have our own guns, and now it is thanks to the artillery that we have good advances and have had success in klishchivka and in the kupyansk direction. in addition, compared to other units , we have whole, whole separate units of uavs, we have reconnaissance drones, attack drones, and kamikaze drones, and today this is the safest and most effective work. mr. ivan, we know that in the ranks of the steel border, the fighters who were the first to see the enemy in different parts

of the border, those who shot down azavstal, defended the lyman direction, the bakhmut direction, it is clear that the different parts of the border and the battles there are different, do you see this difference, how it manifests itself, what is the peculiarity of fighting on different parts of the border, in general, if you take not only... a different section of the border, and a different period of time, those servicemen who started fighting with the beginning of a full-scale invasion in the 22nd year are significantly different from those who are now, why? because everyone already has combat experience, even now the fighters who are serving with us, they have much more combat skills than just when we... taught them, when we had some training, that is, now completely the entire personnel of the steel border are

real specialists, and in this they differ, and battles in other areas, well i will remind you that each area is a separate story, in each area, for example, before being in the steel border, i served in the kherson border detachment and there the area and the conditions for conducting hostilities. are completely different, i.e. now there the units are located along the line of the dnipro river and are conducting combat operations right across the river, here is a land area, eh, here you have to conduct operations in different and on different areas of the terrain, liberate populated areas, and carry out assault operations, that is, each area it is somehow different in a different way, well, in general you can say that, well, i understand, every day of fighting against the occupiers who are trying to take away our freedom, for which we are extremely grateful and express our

gratitude to all the defense forces and to you, in particular, for your work, in general, yes what did you learn, let's say, that was not taught during just military training , what skills did you have to master during a full-scale invasion, and if so... once what comes to mind, maybe i'll repeat myself a little, but the most important thing is that we learned, we learned to fight, we learned to survive, a real, real fighter, he will only be when he goes through, or forgets the experience of combat, when he is under fire, this is something that no fighter can learn, during the conduct of some training, that is... this is the experience that we get, uh , skilled, powerful, strong fighters, right here on the battlefield, they

are hardened on the battlefield, they learn... to act outside the box, in every different situation, to accept their decisions, and primarily these are decisions that ensure their survival, and also defeating the enemy, we use various tricks that help us overcome the enemy. mr. ivan, how can one join the ranks of steel border, what qualities should a fighter possess in order to get into your ranks? is it enough? just motivation, do you need anything else, physical training, etc., now it is enough to have a desire and good physical and good physical training and it is enough to be healthy, if these three components are present, then you can, in principle, submit your application and join the ranks of the steel border, while that we have a personal

there is enough stock, but we are forming a reserve. we have separate picking points, so anyone who wants to can fill out a questionnaire, information is also available on the website of the state border service administration , we have information on the facebook page of the steel border, anyone who wants to can apply, i think that now only those who are left are those who will be able to get into our ranks, motivated as much as possible, and you will teach the rest what is the difference between the different guards, so we see that it is possible, for example, to apply to you , it is possible to other brigades, in what differences, yes, in principle, the only difference is that different types of troops, for example, we are the state border service, other units are the ministry of internal affairs, this is the national guard,

but in principle they all have the same task, we are part of the offensive guard , it is free. the occupied territories of ukraine and go to the borders of the 91st, we have no doubts here, i just think that if a person wants to join the offensive guard, for example, and he has a choice, for example, to get into the state border service, the ministry of internal affairs, yes, because there also have their own brigades, so what about the armed forces, here is what needs to be taken into account, and whether in principle there is no special difference, by and large there is no difference, the main desire is if a person has experience, for example, in previous service on the border... service, of course she will go to the steel border, if a person served in the national guard in his youth, then it is more likely that he will apply to the units of the national guard, or by analogy to the units of the ministry of internal affairs, therefore a special choice,

unnecessary, well it was just interesting i guess to our viewers too, thank you, mr. ivan shevtsov, head of the press service of the permanent border assault brigade, lieutenant colonel joined our broadcast, once again, by chance, so thank you to all our defenders for allowing us to conduct this broadcast just now, because in particular, you give us two and all those who watch, and today you were with oleksiy homan, kateryna derkach, thank you for your trust. chevorons approaching victory, and another year when we do not celebrate, but choose our independence, and another day when

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