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[000:00:00;00] of course, the democratic one, when it comes to the civil coalition, is a centrist party with various leanings towards the middle, somewhere a little more conservative, somewhere more left-wing, but mainly it is a demokrat, demokratyczna, partia proeuropejska, jestem przycenany, że z punktu . and by the way, they will have the main package in the government, because they have the best results. the party with which it will be possible to pragmatically solve the problem both in grain issues and in other issues arising between poland and ukraine. poland and ukraine.
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the third drug is the hardest. quite firmly and not very sympathetic to ukraine because of all those grain embargoes for ukraine and so on. pragmatic approach to the ukrainians, that ukraine should be supported, because our common security depends on how that war ends, whether we can push putin back to his tepkniemy putina z załobna na
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jego territory. influence, because without it it will not be possible to create more, i was the first representative of social democracy in poland, already a democratic one, and i must say that this result is, from my thoughts, i think that it will somewhere 10-12-12%. very important and here in ukrainian affairs, i think there is clarity, it is a very pro-ukrainian party that wants the continuation of both political and humanitarian aid for ukraine. and problems, in particular historical ones related to volhynia, need to be solved, approached practically and solved through dialogue. in my opinion,
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if i looked at that change of power today. of kyiv, then maybe i wouldn't memorize the names of politicians, because that will come with time, instead, i would like that dialogue to be started, because the affairs of ukraine will be decided the future of ukraine itself, as well as poland and europe, and it seems to me that it would be good if, at various levels even during the creation of the government, various ukrainian experts and advisers found good contact with colleagues. and i think that since the lack of activity, suspensions that have been going on for the past months between poland and ukraine due to. she did it because of the election campaign, because it
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turned out that the confederation. i think they got something out of it, but the confederacy ended up losing by the results, the biggest defeat of that election, they counted on even on the fact that they will have enough seats in the parliament to prevent the ruling democratic opposition from becoming a majority, but they did not manage to have 12, understand the problems of ukraine, will be ready for dialogue, and likewise, because the problems and tension will arise in different places , will be able to reduce and eliminate that tension, but through dialogue, through a good conversation with ukrainian partners, drodze dialogu, na drodze takiej dobrej rozmoje z ukraińskimi partnerami,
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just o napieciu, in this year's elections a very high turnout of over 74% means so much. this means that supporters of various political forces were suddenly mobilized and eventually went to vote. but will polish society be after such a tense election campaign. today it is not unified, and the high turnout is the highest in history.
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poles are very divided, in my opinion, the poles have not been so divided for a long time, maybe even in the last 100 years they have never been so divided as now, so one of the tasks of the new government, the new prime minister. will be searching for a way to polish-polish dialogue, to polish-polish unification, because if we remain in such positions, when some are here and others there, then we will live like two tribes who speak the same language, but do not understand each other. then we will spend the colossal social capital that poland has. in my opinion, the new government must very seriously start this search for polish-polish dialogue, various gestures that will show that they are open to postulates. że z takiego it is worth remembering that from such a polarization, from such a division to leave for a very long time, it is not the case that
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everything will be settled with one speech or one decision, there is no such possibility, it will be a multi-year process, but donald tusk, who will surely become the prime minister, already spoke in his pre-election speeches about the need for the polish polish unification, and i hope that this will be one of the main topics for this government, so as not to exclude anyone, it is better to invite cooperation, i say that it will not happen now, it will not happen quickly, but if we are a few years more be polite to each other, let's smile at each other more, then everything will work out, because now, when you ask whether the poles are united or divided, the answer is clear, they are divided,
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as never before in history? it's a pity, but i have hope, it was extremely important to talk about the preparations for the elections, to highlight the struggle of politicians, to explain to the poles what was the point, but as a ukrainian, a journalist, i have an interest in
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that, i don't know, because he has two possibilities: one to admit that his favorite pis party, with which he himself comes, won the election and to trust pis stvodu the government appointed by the president, let's agree that it will be november 15, has two weeks to receive a credit of confidence from the parliament. and then on december 1, the sejm has the right to appoint a government, and then, of course, as i understand it, the parliamentary majority will appoint tuska and
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the government, parlamentarna, jak powizimi powoła donaldda tuska i rądą, czyli w takim najbardziej, december 1.2, powimni mieć, ale prezident odvodnej moze keep, of course it can happen differently, can shorten these terms, for example, start consultations with political parties, after a week or two of such consultation can say that he sees that the majority is on the side of those parties. he procedure can end even earlier than announcing tusk as prime minister, that is, by december 1. but it depends on the president and what course of action he will choose, i do not know now, but at the latest on december 1 , that is
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, in half a month. in the background although ukraine was one of the most important topics of the campaigns, people talked about it, some said that aid to ukraine is enough, others that it should be continued and supported, so the ukrainian theme has not disappeared in this company either, at the same time, i want to tell you one thing, because it concerns the whole world, and ukrainians must be ready for that , and do a lot to. there's too much news, it's usually bad, it's such a psychological trait of people, they push it away, no, that's enough, that's one thing, soon it will be two years that the war has been going on, and it's hard to say when it might end, how it can end, because it's an open topic, guys we have, in the middle east, it also takes
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away part of the attention of the world and viewers and readers, directs them to the middle east, i think that president zelenskyi is doing great things in this direction, mainly in diplomatic activities, presence in the media, he cannot ukraine cannot surrender, and you must be active so that the war does not turn into something that is always, that can last forever, and that many people in the world accept as a permanent thing and stop... only artists and journalists must travel the world to talk about the consequences of aggression, about russian crimes, about bombing, about the tragedy of the civilian population in ukraine, as i say, people 's fatigue will progress, they will reject this information, new information will come from the middle east, the world in general is at a bad moment in its history, and it is good that
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on ... would admit that this is really going in a very bad direction. warsaw also gives hope to europe, warsaw gives hope to the world that the wave of nationalism and populism can be stopped. women began to ask if this would really happen, and asked me what i thought about it i think i answered them that i don't know, that everything depends on the outcome of the elections, what can i say to those ukrainian women now, what is their fate in poland? i think with the new government there is hope that there will be help because the idea is to take all that
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money away. the idea did not make much of a breakthrough, on the contrary, it is obvious that ukrainian women with children who are on the territory of poland should receive assistance accordingly, i am convinced that the new government will not make changes in this matter, which are in favor of those people, we are talking about specific people, about their needs that cannot be left without to the funding will not materialize, it was in the election campaign, but in my opinion , those parties that won will do as it should be, so help pomoc będzie udzielana, we will have a hope, jeszcze jeszcze
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chőalam się się počet from this war. of course, i am not talking about those ukrainians who learn about the war from the news, but about those who fight with weapons in their hands. it will not be possible to win this war, that is why it is so important that the world does not turn its back. i distinguish these questions, turning the world away - this will be a solution, if god forbid this happens, it will be a decision of politicians, instead, taptoma is a psychological reaction of normal people, and it is difficult to fight with it, because even after great family tragedies that people experience, someone somehow
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is returning to normal, and the first step is to reject that bad news, but we will not deal with psychology here, but going back to politics, i will say this, the world cannot turn its back on ukraine, the key for ukraine is what is happening in usa. and in the usa, the campaign begins before the elections, which will take place in november next year, that is, in 2024, and there, of course, different postulates may sound. fortunately , president biden has a firm position, and he allocates aid to ukraine as it should and very widely. but we don't know if he will win. we also do not know how much the topic of reducing aid to ukraine will appear in the election campaign, because many republicans are already talking about it. and then such a possible decrease in american participation in helping ukraine must be filled by someone.
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in my opinion, it should be done by eu, that is, our countries. and in that sense, it is good that the government is changing in poland, because the new government will be able to talk like that. with the world's help, ukraine cannot win this war, it is fighting a big country, three times larger in population, besides, it is fighting an aggressor who came to its land, so it wants to expel him, this is a very difficult task, most of us are under a great impression of
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heroism of ukrainians. if chcemy tym bohaterskimcom pomoc pomóc to tomogo it is necessary to continue the same support both political and military as well as humanitarian and financial, that we will do it, and in that sense the change of power is useful, because tusk and other leaders, wygrali wybory, oni wybory tak jak ja wybory, jak pani przed chwilą. russia's policy with putin and possibly with his successors, because putin's successors, when
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this happens, will be more incredible, no less aggressive than putin himself, in ukraine, i once again believe that the change in poland from an anti-european government to a pro-european government is objectively a support for perspective. what do you think will be for victory of ukraine? it must be determined by the ukrainians themselves, because in the end i have no right to say how i imagine that victory, but it is worth remembering that the path to victory, as we
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see it, is incredibly difficult, and in my opinion, looking at it more tactically , politically, and i believe that this is what is happening, that president zelenskyi and his team. że jego otoczenie, no mają rążnye warianty, co robi, co robi , if resources, especially human ones, will run out, if something changes in american politics, there are many ment, wiele elements that can be predicted, one nie muesce się stać, ale połęże się stać, happen, but they can, you have to be ready for that, what about that world, tylko że ono może bycz bardzo odległe i więc jakby? but it can be very far, i don't want to point out what is a victory, because it is the task of the ukrainians themselves to make a decision, at the same time
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i can say that politicians should have different options, have some kind of plan b? only b, i think that and so on, because there are so many variable factors in world politics that one plan b is not enough, mine is the last one. when do you think this war might end and how many generations should there be? nations, it was once said, we belong to the same language group, we are slavs, we have experienced a very difficult
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, very tragic history. that it is hard to imagine that some
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democrat will sit in the kremlin and say: let's forgive each other. so putin made a historical mistake, we have a different opinion, we are ready to rebuild. will happen when the regime in the kremlin changes, and it changes not from putin to someone similar, but from putin to someone who will understand what democracy. putin and that russian government for hundreds of years is that they do not respect people, including their own.
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the implementation of those velikorsk whole, and at what price, how many ordinary people will pay with their lives, health or other, no one thinks about it, unfortunately, this is a mentality, and it is very difficult to change that mentality, mentally it is difficult to mentally mentally mentally, but and reasons, my opinion is that the war can last for years, but the russian-ukrainian conflict is due to the wrong done to russia, it is not from yesterday, it is from the beginning of this country was the main goal, no matter how many victims it absorbed, neither the tsars, nor lenin, nor stalin, nor today putin accepted it,
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and that is why we have problems with russia. if they had dignity, they could also elect a normal government that would lead them in a better direction. the poles actually decided that poland should be a european country, that it should remain in the european union. what was a democratic country, what was a country in which we respect each other, thank you very much mr. oleksandr for the conversation, i want to tell our viewers that this was oleksandr kwasniwski, a polish public and political figure, and also the president of poland from 1995 to 2005, we talked about how poland voted. the child caught a virus, mother vera has faith in
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