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[000:00:00;00] is responsible for it, i think that there is also an important issue of our accountability here, we understand that this is the money of american taxpayers, and for us it is also an additional responsibility, in which for us, in particular for government officials, for officials from the executive structures of power , this is an additional responsibility of using this aid that, well, in particular the united states... gives us, if we talk about american aid, basically, you heard today the president of the united states, joseph biden, he also addressed the the american congress after this speech with the proposal to give us a new aid package, the question arises as to how much we are guaranteed in principle that this aid will continue, both from the united states and
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from the european union, and it will cover the needs that now exist even though would for the ukrainian state budget. well, we see that even in that, and in that request, and about the funds that president biden submitted, we see that, for example, there is direct budget assistance from the united states, compared with what they provided this year on a monthly basis, it is significantly reduced, as far as i understand, it is substantially reduced precisely... due to the fact that - there is a calculation that other partners, in particular the european union, although, at the moment, it too is considering an amount smaller than this year's support for 2020, 24, but also other partners such as japan, such as possibly australia, other countries will be able, through various mechanisms, be it direct budget
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support, direct bilateral, or through the mechanisms of the world bank or international currency fund to provide us, and to what extent we are guaranteed, this is a good question, because it is obvious that today, as long as the decision of the congress is not passed, we do not have a guarantee, there is work, there is hope, there is a calculation that both the society in the united states of america, and the actual , of the united states of america has heard the arguments that president biden used in his speech and will listen to them, although it seems to me that in reality this would require additional explanatory work, even from the united states administration domestically, to clearly explain why help
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there are principles of ukraine. important for the national interests of ukraine, this is one of those attempts that president biden has now made, but it seems to me that strengthening these arguments, spreading them, clarifying them further, it should also be part of the efforts that the administration is making today the president of the united states in order to continue this support, many are now trying to understand, the globalization of wars that are happening in the world before our eyes, the middle east conflict, let's say, there may be some other conflicts, as much as it can, on the one hand, it can convince that the war in ukraine is part of this difficult process, and on the other hand, to give indications on the amount of aid, on its pace, referring specifically to ukraine, you know,
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it seems to me that in principle we can already see that even the appeal for additional funds for this large aid package, it is certainly somewhat less than what we could have expected even before the moment when this the so-called temporary package for 24 bln by the end of this year was not approved, was separated by the congress of the united states from that transitional, transitional budget that they adopted for themselves to finance their state institutions, so definitely, in my opinion, to some extent, precisely the amount and funds, first of all, certainly funds, which will be allocated for one or another needs, and for social payments, and actually for weapons, and to a certain extent at the moment it looks
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smaller, even if it will be... approved, in such and such a package that requested the president of the biden administration, but at the same time, i think that - depending on how the events in the middle east will also develop, and how far all these countries, this new axis of evil, and the same iran, will manifest themselves further, in the future , and the same russian federation, the same north korea, and the same terrorist organizations, hamas and hezbollah, which have direct connections not only with iran and the russian federation, but from this. will depend on the extent to which societies and politicians in the western world will realize that it is absolutely connected
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things, and this one is autocratic-terrorist, i don’t know, it’s difficult to call them a group, and i can’t even find the words, this is an authoritarian-terrorist group, and it works both from terrorist...groups and from countries, in concert, it acts in unison and it acts for the sake of one goal, to destroy the established world that we know, to fill it with horrors and destroy, to destroy the world that is built on the right, on respect, on the opportunities that have been achieved or other purposes through agreements and contracts. well, you're talking about vid zla, aren't you? between how to explain in such a situation that one of the leaders of the country, members of the european union and nato, viktor rohr, the prime minister
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of hungary, goes quietly to the silk road forum, and not only at this forum is in the company of the president of the russian federation vladimir putin, but also holds a bilateral meeting with putin, why is this a body. and you know, well, apart from disgust, indignation and anger, of course, this, this visit of mr. orbán, and these meetings of his, and what he calls, well, such temporary, some inconveniences, a situation with war, brutal russia's war against ukraine, during his meeting with putin, it evokes nothing else, no other... thoughts and feelings , and actually, as for me, we would, i would like to see, a certain reaction, a harsh
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reaction and the leaders of the european union, and the leaders of the north atlantic alliance, and actually the leaders of the countries that are members of these institutions, from the point of view of the fact that it is an unacceptable double standard when a country tries to simultaneously benefit from all the benefits of belonging to the eu and nato, and at the same time, conducts negotiations with a war criminal, a at the same time, he is flirting, for his own personal, i think, politically, domestically and at the same time, corruption and money interests with the russian federation and with the head of the russian federation, well, as for me, the time has come to think about real tools, in what way, to put pressure inside of these institutions, the eu and nato, on their members, who, well
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, maybe decades ago , continued to declare common values, in fact, are doing everything to undermine unity and undermine it from the inside. the general, general direction of these organizations, that is now many people are asking, what will be the consequences for viktor orbán of this meeting, may there still be some consequences, will there be a reaction in brussels, let's say, so far i have not seen any reactions, and it worries me a little, well, i will say it so gently that a little , and this really worries me, and i would like it to lead to, possibly additional restrictions, for viktor orbán directly as the prime minister of hungary, so that he cannot implement this dual policy of his,
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which he leads, well, probably in the european one the union has more instruments of a financial type, they have already used them several times, and we have seen that orbán , in order to actually unlock access to these funds for himself and for his country, is playing this double game, by the way, partly and because of this, but at the same time, it seems to me that he is already crossing those limits. which should not be allowed to unfreeze any funds at all, it should no longer be a freezing of funds, but it should be, well, a serious tough, tough punishment, ah, maybe, maybe even some such instruments that would limit his opportunities to participate in the formation of this or that policy of the european union or those or the adoption of those or those.
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decisions of the european union, unfortunately, these instruments, well, let's say, prescribed, legally, certified , are not available at the moment, but, well, i have already repeatedly appealed to my colleagues from the european union that the time to develop these instruments has long come, and today it's time not just to have them developed, but also to actively use them, in particular with regard to the leader of this country, say ms. ivana, well, the president is talking about the possibility of ukraine joining the european union at the end of this year, but i still have a question as to how realistic this possibility is in case of failure to fulfill all the requirements for the application that were set for ukraine , when the european commission decided on our candidate status. you and i can talk about the fact that we probably fulfilled these seven conditions by 90 percent, indeed they had, let's say, sub-clauses that
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covered certain conditions, well, in particular, those that related to anti-corruption work, so i regret that the verkhovna rada, for example, did not consider bills that would increase the independence of the specialized anti -corruption prosecutor's office or strengthen the capacity of the national anti-corruption bureau, so not all the work was done, but i was done, but i think that on ee at the beginning of november we will hear from the european commission, a report, we will see, a report in which there will still be a positive assessment of what ukraine has done and a positive recommendation for the european council to start such negotiations on accession, to make a decision on the start of negotiations on accession, already this year, but this does not mean that the road to this political decision at the end of this year, it is already lined with rose petals, it will involve the decision of each... individual country, the decision
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a consensus is adopted, and here we still need to work very seriously in bilateral work with each member of the european union, and somewhere in work with the institutions themselves and those colleagues who are aware of what and how ukraine has done in order to prevent those who want to seize the agenda of european integration... ukraine from being held hostage by their bilateral political ambitions like hungary, so that they would not be able to do it, and maybe it is because of this, sorry, maybe, in what way, how can we stop the conditions of hungary, or maybe the slovaks there, and i thought that, what you are asking, is it possible that they, well, can try to take hostage our european, european integration, progress, i
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i think the process, i think it is possible precisely because if we can and will manage to convince, well conditionally out of 27-26 countries, that ukraine really did everything that needed to be done, and any additional requirements at this stage from one or another country, well if it is one, for example , the country, they are not, they are not justified, and this will then lead to an already internal discussion in the european union, which, in my opinion, unfortunately, will once again involve a certain trade, regarding access to certain , funds within the european union for the member states of the european union, in order to to unblock this process permanently. thank you, ms. ivanna, ivane klymposh, tsintsadze, a member of the verkhovna rada of ukraine and the head of the committee on the integration of ukraine , was on the air, now we will break
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the processes taking place in ukraine and the world. vitaly portnikov, host of espresso and invited experts, give their opinion based on facts. and the forecast of the development of events, want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, watch the saturday political club, every saturday on espresso, we continue our information broadcast, and now we will talk with you with iza khroslinska, a polish journalist, publicist, public figure, congratulations, mrs. iza, good evening, vitaliy, good evening everyone. i want to ask how after these after the elections, the social atmosphere has changed, if you will, the social atmosphere, can we talk about a change in the social atmosphere in poland after the elections to the sejm, er, it is possible, er, yes, in fact, i think that the first hope and change appeared on
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october 1, when this huge march, almost a million or more like a million, uh, people not only from warsaw, but from all over poland, who came to the march in support of the opposition and against the pisz government and its policies, both domestic and international, this is the first time even then, we we had every impression that we were surviving, but of course the restlessness remained, and you know, well, it is the case that part, that is, those who voted for the opposition, they are waiting with hope for a change, instead, komentary tych , jaki ptrymuwały pis abo konfederacju, zwisno,
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wony zwučać cukomm inaksze, tak i musesz skazati szczyro, że dejaki komentary w ciomu politykiw pisu abo tych, jaki powjazaní z pisom, no prosto je zvučać dywno abo nebezpeczno, jak naprykład, the comment of one of the politicians of pisu jan zharin, who said that democracy is now very dangerous for catholics, what this means is unknown , but, so there are different comments, but of course there is hope, more like hope, although we understand that the situation is not easy, yes, because now
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with the creation of the government, of course, there are comments, which, there are many, which say that duda, however, will support pis and will be the closest two months of some mess, but also the leaders of the opposition, they are not waiting passively, because donald tusk already addressed yesterday, or the day after yesterday, i don't remember, from the address to andrzej duda, who is on behalf of the opposition, who are waiting for an invitation , and it is necessary to take into account the votes of the majority of those who went to the elections, 73%. and with
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of this, 36 voted by mail and everyone seems to be in favor of the confederation, the rest are different opposition parties and this is only those who live in poland, who want and are waiting for these
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changes, also under pressure or for other reasons , such a confrontation is acute, which was during these elections , i honestly do not remember such a confrontation during the previous election campaigns, we followed them from the end of the 80s , the beginning of the 90s, when the leaders of solidarity and former communists fought with each other, when the representatives fought of the left forces of the right forces, when the centrists fought with the rightists, everything happened. any configurations, i remember that there was a configuration where the kaczynski brothers and donald tusk were a joint coalition against
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the left, this too, it was a united political force whose leaders were lekhi, yaroslav kaczynski and donald tusk, well there was that, and now to look at this level of confrontation between people who, it turns out, used to be able to create common alliances, is, to put it mildly, unfortunate for the very atmosphere of mutual respect in polish politics. election campaign, yes 8 years, 8 years, of the pis, of the government, of their policies, of the majority, which gave them the power to do almost everything they wanted, this is not an absolute constitution, there was no will to oppose any, not a single one. who actually destroyed democracy in poland, and what is important in the context of which you said that these eight years are
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an absolute degradation. public narrative both in politics, and in the media, and in public media, that is, everywhere, and absolutely responsible for this is the press and their media, their politicians, because, well, this level, of course, would be, well, for example,
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against donald tusk, that was earlier, the biggest, worst thing that was said that... in brussels, did he come back, and of course, then there was even more against him, because there was even a little attempt to convict him, eh -eh, but also when one reads and listens to, and listened to, these comments, also speeches in the polish parliament, regardless of the campaign, but this is actually hate speech, and by the way,
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the language... addressed to those who were not there, did not support piss, and so, it's like a climax, yes, it's like a climax, an election campaign, they fled to everything that is worst and
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what was shown during the quiet years, and to accept also this hate, this hatred, this rejection, polarization of polish society and so on, and so on, because it is simply impossible to live. i was very surprised that the polish leadership, on the eve of these elections, was ready even for relations with ukraine, which were by and large the biggest political capital of poland during these 20 months, before six or six years of the destruction of these relations in the present. by the polish authorities, here, too, it must be remembered that, in throwing, one might say, under the truck of his pre-election interests, and many people in ukraine did not understand this, and i remember that they even criticized our government, that it cannot adapt to polish demands, that it insults polish allies, unfortunately, there are people among ukrainians , who simply do not realize the situation in which our country found itself in this election campaign, but the question arises as to how
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much it will be possible to defuse the situation now, because it seems to me that other polish politicians from the ruling camp have also done everything to worsen it, as if there is no next day after the election? with poland, or in international politics, in relations with germany, jak ty

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