[000:00:00;00] from the ruling camp, they did everything to worsen it, as if there is no next day after the election, that's for sure, but they did the same in other houses, already for example internally connected with poland, or in international politics, in relations with germany, how do you

keep track , polish written politics, but this is also a horror, the electorate of the confederation, which is big nacjonalistycznej populistski and majże cej naprjam faszyski, could be bylo skazaty, and antyukraińskij, big big strong, tak, ce odden z prioriatiw cijej partii, ale takoż, no, that

pewno treba by bylo dobsze czasu na analizą. it appeared very quickly, of course, it was not, it was not the one that dominated, in the public narrative of the story, but it was, in and during the anniversary last year, of the volyn tragedy,

and more and more of those that initial, the first month of a full-scale war, probably two, it was considered a scandal, so to speak, the harvest is a separate, separate topic, and which i wanted to say, probably to answer one of your questions, before the elections, because it was september 25 or 60 tusk, however, from the organization a meeting in which individual representatives took part, i will not go into details, and the purpose of this meeting , which was organized by tusk at the time, was to discuss

how to get out of the crisis with ukraine, to discuss... the state of stabilization of relations with ukraine, then, well, after the elections, of course, it is said

about that, and there, i think it is as important as in and in particular ukrainian women, because the refugees after february 24 were mostly women, the women themselves and the situation with them in poland, yes, that is, there, in what they discussed , but without details, but there is an attempt to get out of their crises, at the same time to take to your attention, the role of the war, russia's aggression in ukraine and also where it is necessary, let's say, the interest of polish society is uncertain to the end, here , for example, we will, we will wait for

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the future right now, the main and interesting thing in the program verdict by serhiy rudenko, from monday to friday at 20:00, repeat at 12:10. we continue the information broadcast on the espresso tv channel, we continue to talk about the main topics of this week and now for the near future east with arkady milman, former ambassador of israel to the russian federation, congratulations. mr. arkady, congratulations, mr. vitaly. so, let's start with the actual current moment. we say every day that the ground operation of israeli troops in the gaza strip is about to begin, but day after day passes and we do not see real confirmation of these expectations. in general, do you think that there will be a ground operation, whether the visit of the president of the united states to israel somehow changed the intentions of israel. no, i did not change it, mr.

vitaly, with your permission, i will to communicate in russian, ukrainian, so i apologize, i apologize, there will definitely be a ground operation, it is just being prepared , given the fact that 3,000 reservists were called up, which are distributed between the two northern fronts and the southern front of the gas sector, we must not forget that in the north of the country , we still have a threat that comes from hizballah and their iranian sponsors, so this operation is being prepared, today it has already been approved, today it was already in our press in the second half of the day that, in principle, the main plans for entering this country have been approved ground operation, er, the israeli air force continues to bombard the military infrastructure of hamas in order to facilitate entry - into the territory of the gas sector, so

unfortunately, unfortunately, this ground operation will be, i say, unfortunately, because we understand that there will be victims, from our side there will be dead and wounded soldiers, this is a very difficult decision, but we simply have no way out and we need to destroy the infrastructure, the military infrastructure of khamos. well, what a window, a window of opportunities for holding such an event operations, and what do i mean, well, we understand that the ground operation in gaza is not only casualties among military personnel, the israeli army and not only casualties among hamas fighters, but these are expected casualties among the civilian population, we have already seen the reaction to this the story with the bombing of the hospital in gas, which turned out to be a pure fake, but the consequences of this fake were simply stunning, but let's imagine that the victims will be real, where

is this time, the time period in which israel can afford to have its troops were on the territory of the gas sector, this is not only a time interval, but it is also a question of legitimacy, which this time interval opens up for us, there will certainly be victims among the civilian population, there is no other way to go to war, we have such an expression, it is mine look... very correct and no one as we understand it, you know how and when you start a war, but you never know how and when you end it, so israel is taking certain measures, a humanitarian corridor was already announced the other day, where the inhabitants of the northern parts of the gas sector asked them to move to the southern part of the gas sector, because the military operation will start from the north, moreover, hamas did everything to prevent these people.

will leave their homes, they are interested in showing these victims, because in their logic they have only one protection, this human shield of people, where they are located, where they have located their weapons depots, their headquarters, their bases, they, this hospitals, these are kindergartens, this is even an institution of unra, an office of the united nations organization on a question refugees, even there they accommodate. we announced this corridor, 6,000 have already been able to leave the northern part of the gaza strip, while it is not clear what will happen to these 400-500,000, maybe a humanitarian corridor will be announced again, and the palestinians, who live in gaza, will be able to leave it, everything is fine palestinians, those who live there understand that after such a brutal attack there will necessarily be an israeli reaction, an israeli military bombardment. operation, therefore those who are faster, smarter,

more nimble, they have been in for a long time the southern part of the gaza strip, many of them want to go to egypt, but also egypt , an arab country that said that it can only allow 2,000 people a day in the territory of egypt, they do not want the palestinians to go to their territory, because they they see it as a source of instability for their country, after that an operation will begin in any way, now it is necessary to accept ... the account that there is an upper city of gaza, there are several cities there, but the sector of gaza, and there is an underground city, the bulk of these are terrorists, she is in an underground city, with them there is part of the infrastructure above and part of the structure in these bunkers, concrete ones, there are whole tunnels, whole bunkers, their families are also there, they are there, there are approximately 30 to 40,000 terrorists only, plus service personnel, plus part of their families, it is quite large and part of the population is very many people, it can even reach 70-80, if

not up to 100,000 people, and we take this into account, and how to smoke them out of there, and how to force them to surrender or destroy them oh, it's also very serious question, of course, this is a window, it cannot last forever, at this moment , there is solidarity, the understanding of western leaders that we cannot not carry out this operation now, it is clear that the muslim world, no matter what we do, they will always be against us, this is such a position, it must be remembered that hamas does not recognize the state of israel, if hamas recognized the state of israel, wanted peace , then it probably would not have acted against israel with such brutal actions, so we have no choice, let's hope that peaceful the population will be able to move to the southern sector, there will be a very small number of victims among the population. that's

all we can assume at the moment. please tell me how real attitudes are changing now. the war in ukraine and its consequences in israeli politics, just before our conversation i was reading the news and saw that there were some alarming sirens in mitula in the north of israel, and that the army was proposing to evacuate kiryachmana, to towns neighboring metula, also after rocket attacks, and i remembered that in march last... i just wrote about metula and kiryachman in the context of the danger for israel if the russian-ukrainian war continues. not even thinking that it would literally come true. and when the war in ukraine began, few in israel understood the consequences for the near east. to what extent is there an understanding

of the interconnectedness of these processes? well, mr. vitaly, you know that from the first day of the war in ukraine, i clearly understood this, voiced in our conversations that i perfectly understand the consequences of the war in ukraine , all the complexity of this situation in ukraine, to what extent can there be an analogy with israel , which happened on october 7, that on october 7, many people suddenly realized how many analogies we can draw between the war in ukraine and the war in israel, and president biden, who came to israel, he absolutely correctly connected these two foci. terrible conflicts in ukraine in israel and in principle he united. why did he put it together, for one simple reason, because today we have a situation in which the countries of the western world, countries led by the united states

the americans, including israel, including ukraine , are fighting for a free peace, there are evils against them, this is primarily russia, iran, this is hamas hezbollah, somewhere... north korea, china, which is taking advantage of this situation, and it also sometimes joins this axis of evil, and sometimes stands aside, the chinese did not condemn the actions of hamas with a single word, nor did russia with a single word, this is a big confrontation, it leads to the fact that there is a war in ukraine and a war with us, which, by the way, we consider all this to be war, i including, i believe that this war will not last 2-3 weeks, and it cannot... even be several such long months, if not more, i looked now, it is the 604th day, we have tomorrow, in today is the fourteenth day of the war, yes, i looked at it, yes, i immediately felt such a sense of drama, yes, how much ukraine still has to fight, and maybe we will have to

fight that much, there was a lot, and this is a concept that did not work, and this society was mobilized, how was it mobilized and how? but also helped as a civil society, maybe not always the government was able, but civil society mobilized, and the motivation of ukrainian soldiers and the motivation of our soldiers, because the success of the ground operation, it depends first of all, and this is one of the most important conclusions that we knew from previous wars, and the war in ukraine, this shows, first of all, that the motivation of the soldiers who fight is important, if there is no motivation of the soldiers, even the best weapons, they will never win, but... but with the highest motivation, they can defeat the enemy, and ukraine has proven this, that's why it is also important to us there is a motivation for our soldiers here, there are many other analogies that can be drawn between the two conflicts, but the most important thing is that, in principle, now in

ukraine, israel has the most important ally, the united states of america, and it is not for nothing that president biden united here is this package deal, somewhere in ukraine, and israel, and additional security measures for america, these are related to the border with mexico, this is all included in this package of 100 billion. this connection indicates that we are in the very present today the confrontation between western liberal values, which ukraine defends very bloody and very hard, and israel, which is also a part of the world, which also fights with terrorist organizations, with this terrorism, which promotes evil in the middle east, and tell me, if we talk about the position of american politicians, well, we really see... they are absolutely right that president biden unites ukraine and israel into a single entity both in his speeches and in this

financial offer that he made congress, and here is the position of the president, former president donald trump, who does not consider it necessary to help ukraine, but always considered it necessary to help israel, how will all this change in his head now, if it will, will trump and the people who associated with trump. is it still a huge number of influential people and a huge part of society , the interconnectedness of these conflictingly saying that it is not possible to save israel without saving ukraine? well, first of all, president, let's say this is my personal opinion, president trump did not always behave and behaves adequately, president trump said that in 24 hours, he would have said: "putin would not have had a war in ukraine." after... this terrible brutal attack by hamas on israel, he declared that hamas is a smart organization, then before the war he talked about

what it was called, hizballah, yes, i called it, then he said that before the beginning of this war, he said that nathanayo is a very bad politician, before that he said what a good politician he is, so i would not take seriously, from the point of view of the essence of the president's statement trump, considered that in this situation he plays a destructive role, and the supporters in the republican party , which is in the congress, they play a destructive role, they play a destructive role not because they care about fate, as ukraine uses aid , which is issued by america, they are not worried about it, they are not worried about the fact that ukraine is fighting for liberal-democratic values, ultimately for the freedom of the western world. they are only concerned about internal disputes with the democratic party and the desire to offend to president bainen so that

their candidate would then be chosen in the elections that will be held next year in november. and that's why this part, such a small republican one, this part that exists, in principle , behaves just as inadequately as trump himself, the former president of the united states, behaves. and the number of criminal cases that i have with you. it is not at all clear whether he will be a candidate there and so on, let's leave everything aside, but this is the essence of the whole complexity, so to facilitate the whole situation and really correctly analyzing the situation that exists today on the international arena, president biden did the absolutely right thing when he put everything together and clearly indicated that, in my understanding, this is today's confrontation, it will determine the future policy of the united states of america, it must be understood that part republicans understand this too, they perfectly understand and support it, there is a small group of such populists, er, trumpists

who behave inappropriately, by the way, we also have a part of such people, our nickname our example is bibi, they are called bibists in israel, they also behave inappropriately, well, we also know this, and after the war, when it ends, we will also have very serious political showdowns, and today one of the very serious israeli journalists which are very serious sources, she has already written that the bulk of the members are from the likud party, this is the largest parliamentary, er, faction, they understand perfectly well that natanyao should resign immediately after the war, in my opinion, he should quickly run away from retirement, therefore that the commission that will be created after the war will not just send him away, there will also be a lot of all kinds of questions for him, and he will have to pay a high price for the failure that we had on october 7, mr. if we have already mentioned hezbollah, there is a danger of opening a second front in the north

of israel, could hezbollah start military operations on the lebanese-israeli border, or are they still preventing such actions? maybe, it can start, that's the whole problem, the fact is that, well, it's possible, there are two scenarios development, one is that hezbollah will continue these small skirmishes on the border, which have been going on for several days, they are trying to kill some of our soldiers, or some rocket will be sent to our territory to kill civilians, respectively our response... and thus they express solidarity with the actions of their sister terrorist organization hamas against israel. this is now the main logic of these military clashes that are taking place on the border, it is a somewhat clashing of several points, not all combat units are involved from two sides. all this is going on without doubt with the support of iran. what second scenario can be? it can go on like this almost

all the time. what is the second one? a scenario that is much more problematic for us, if there is some kind of miscalculation, yes, how to say it accurately, it is clear, what is a miscalculation, yes, that is, there will be some wrong decision in that situation in those circumstances, which will add up, and hezbollah will decide to attack us shoot with the huge number of missiles that they have, for understanding, hezbollah has approximately 150,000 missiles of different ranges. the main mass is small, up to 20-30 km, but they also have several hundred missiles that can reach tel aviv and even the southern part of the country. and if they start bombarding with cruise missiles, it will immediately require our very strong reaction. it is not for nothing that president biden said that he is warning hezbollah and iran not to start a second front, because

if they start, then two american aircraft carriers. which are already in the mediterranean sea, according to the order of president biden, they are already near our shores, their planes, and there are a huge number of planes, and f-35s and others and a large number of missiles, they will join the battle against hezbollah against iran, so he warned in his famous speech, he said: "don't do it , he repeated once more, don't do it, we hope that the second front won't open, because it's hard to wage a war on two sides. it's hard, it's hard, but we we hope that this will not happen, after all , this inadequate person, these inadequate people, will have some shred of reason and they will make the right decision and not start a tariff. thank you, thank you, mr. arkady, arkady milman, the former ambassador of israel to the russian federation, was with us on the air, now we will talk about another important aspect of the events

that are developing this week, which is china, the putin meeting. sydzenpinom, the head of the board of the ukrainian body of the association of chinese scholars , vit. good evening. well, therefore, in in principle, this meeting between putin and xi jinping, from your point of view, it changed something in the architecture of relations that currently exist between the people's republic of china and russia. in general, in my opinion, nothing has changed, there has been a strategic rapprochement, actually since february 22, and it continues in the same direction, and how do i explain this strategic vision to china and how do chinese scientists explain it in general, that it is a big neighbor, they have no other way but to maintain good relations, yes, long historical

relations, yes, the second position is conjuncture and indeed, china is such a lifeline for russia, all experts say that, economic benefits, third trade, we see that all niches have been occupied by chinese companies, and, but this is not investment, this is trade, and if this year is planned, that the level of 200 billion will be reached, then this is exclusively trade, we cannot say that about investments yet, we are not observing it, but it is obvious that this large russian delegation brought some plan for the development of investment projects in particular, and what is important to explain is that , which, after all, is china considers russia as part of the european