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[000:00:00;00] yes, yes, he is now and this question, that is, how the moscow princes went to arda earlier with a shortcut, now there was a trip to sidzepin, in order to confirm that everything and china is ready to support him, here there is a mismatch of interests, for example, the west and china, including, that is, if the west declares it hamas, in fact, then cempin does not say that it is hamas, yes, he actually gives a continuation of power, because he understands, pitoch. russia goes through putin. regarding north korea, i think the situation may be more complicated there, god forbid it did not happen that way, because i do not rule out that they can turn china and russia, turn north korea into such a huge weapons factory. why? because in korea it is possible to organize sweatshop production, as it was during stalin's time, when people
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in the groin for a food card. in the factories, it is possible that they can make it so that china can provide equipment, well, you won’t, you won’t see what is produced there, yes, well, you won’t bother, russia can give money, technology for what a kimchan will give a million people for example, who will go to the factories to work in three shifts, and here it can be a different game, the chinese say, and i have no business here, the publication of these has begun, yes... everything is korean, and you will prove it, because china knows the weakness of the western system, which consists in a reactive reaction to events , that is, not what you know, but what you can prove in documents, and or in court, i will immediately put it, if there is sweatshop production, and an authoritarian system, it can always organize , in this sense, these are defensive, and the free world will calculate how much
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attacks? it is necessary, how much is necessary, how much is necessary, so we move on to the question, which is interconnected with the question of blocs and everything else, ukraine should not think, but the free world counts money and calculates, so we must understand that, in principle, they are satisfied with the war at such a pace , they have expanded something there, it is not that and the question is whether it coincides with our interests, no, so we must understand that. our production should be again, we should be less dependent on many issues, and the presence of missiles there 1000 km, 1500 km, or at least 500 so that the border regions of russia feel very bad, but recently the sbu there published a video of how they flew 17 drones from kursk to the kursk region, here, here is the application, here rightly so, because without moving
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the war to the territory of the russian federation. in this format, it may end with an unknown result and not very attractive to ukraine, so we must be stronger, and in relation to the eu, dad, i think we must concentrate first of all on nato, why, because we need security, first of all, without security, there is no economy , what timeframe are you talking about, well, now for no, now the first priority, what zelensky is doing right now is signing a guarantee from the side. malta, a yermak is flying there, there will be a conversation, precisely about guarantees, this, this is the key now, we must be extremely pragmatic, you see this world as built, you know that, there is shurara, values ​​and so on, no one for whom doesn't want to plow, everyone loves only themselves, makes friends for
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money or out of necessity, yes, that's why we have them now the priority is security guarantees, we call it, although it is just help, yes , signing by the maximum number of parties , where britain, scandinavia, which values ​​us more, by the way, than germany, must also be present, because they closer to russia, that’s how they understand, here’s the swede, here’s the swedes they should be guided by, if, for example, the cooperation of the military industry is better than sweden, because the swedes have, yes, gotlan, but no, no, gripen - it ’s theirs, they produce absolutely, that’s why we must focus on safety first, because security, there is no economy, we must understand this, further in nato, we always have a problem called hungary, which can block both nato and the eu, it will require the creation of a separatist enclave, which will be called the national autonomy of hungary, and everything will start in us first from the perspective of occupying transcarpathia in general, they will
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act like that, but when it will go proto. so there is a lever that can influence hungary, called the united states of america, if the united states of america makes a strategic decision about what it corresponds to national security. that ukraine needs to be accepted, you know, they will call budapest from bad guys , the americans already have good policemen, there are bad policemen, good policemen, well, diplomats will come and tell you about common values, if you did not understand from the first council, bad policemen are already calling you , there the fbi, everything else, they begin to tell you where your accounts are, so sanctions are introduced, and this is an opportunity to slip in there, but we have to be ourselves. to be stronger, why, because in it is more or less clear to accept us, we will strengthen this alyanka, mr. taras , i wish that all your good predictions come true, and the bad ones, if they fail, i will not mention to you, i will pretend that i have forgotten, friends, thank you very much
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, for being with us today, we will meet on friday, thank you, ruslan osapenko, valery klochok, taras zagorny, thank you, and we will follow your forecasts, ourselves and ukraine. chevrons approaching victory, and another year where we don't celebrate, we choose ours independence, and another day when they are trying to deprive us of the right to be ourselves, and another fleeting moment of a terrible war that has been going on for centuries, but the whole world is already convinced:
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to talk about the elections and the mood in europe. they recently took place in poland, a little earlier in slovakia, which changes for us how to understand everything correctly and whether we will lose support or vice versa. it will intensify, we will deal with it in our studio, with guests stanislav zhelikhovsky, candidate of political sciences, expert internationalist , we welcome you on the air, and yuriy panchenko is with us, the editor-in-chief of european pravda, traditionally glad to see you, thank you, good night, friends, i suggest starting with a loud enough one. actions and news, which may not have surprised you as experts, but ukrainians were mostly surprised when they saw the prime minister of hungary, mr. orbán, in the company of putin at the summit in china,
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they held their meetings, orbán met with the leader of china, xi jinping, and here everyone has a question, excuse me, the leader of a european country that is a member of the eu, which is a member of... flying to meet people who, for whom, well, who are such creators of the same axis of evil that everyone is talking about, yes, how is it. to understand whether everything is so difficult in europe that such visits have already become the norm, whether there will still be some kind of reaction and questions about orban will arise in the eu, well, there have been questions about orban for a long time, orban breaks all the rules, plays on this and blackmails the eu with the opportunity to make some decisions, and at the moment, the eu does not have the will to somehow impeach him, maybe next year it
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the issue will become more urgent, i would like to remind you that in the second half of next year, hungary will preside over the eu, and this will become such a challenge for the entire union, but nevertheless, yes, this visit was unexpected, and it was not announced for many journalists there, who worked orban suddenly appeared, it was unexpected. orbán plays his game, he constantly criticizes the eu, its policies, sanctions and so on, now he explained his visit by the fact that europe is losing. therefore, we must stick to the east, china , this is his permanent position, he is fine with those where he is not criticized for some violations of freedom of speech, for violating democratic rules and for departing from a unified european policy. well, it is clear that europe is a democratic camp of countries, it is not a concentration camp, not something similar to the soviet union or the warsaw bloc countries, there are
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democracy, and there the country's leader has the right to go even to china, if that occurs to him, but on the other hand , the trend itself is beginning to scare a little, which, in fact, with these elections in poland and slovakia, let's say this, we see certain the tendency towards the coming to power of such right-wing radical nationalist forces, which are very focused on the policy of isolationism, in order to speak for the fact that ukraine is out of time, that there are matters more important than ukraine, and so on, and so on, mr. stanislav, do you think this one is the trend is indeed now such that it can disrupt european unity, well, of course, we are interested in the ukrainian issue , in the issue of ukrainian support, indeed, such a trend is being followed, and it has been going on for a certain period of time, and here it is worth considering that during the last, 15 years, europe is faced with a very large number
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of challenges that arise, i want to remind you that it all began with the financial crisis, which hit many countries of the european union rather painfully, then we we remember the events of the arab spring, correspondingly, military actions, in particular in a country like syria , which gave rise to a big, big migration crisis, because of which europe also suffered a lot, well , and then all other events, such as, for example, the co-coronavirus pandemic, well, of course, after that, we saw how europe was shocked by the full-scale russian aggression against ukraine, and of course, this leaves in the minds of europeans certain imprints, certain fears that they may lose the way of
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life they had for many decades, and of course, such different personalities or political forces want to win from this, they want to, let's say , earn some political capital from these fears, and of course they offer their citizens in each individual country, easy solutions to the problems that exist now in countries of the european union, well, actually, we must understand that complex, complex problems are not so easy to solve, and of course, the situation we see in ukraine, the full-scale invasion of russia shows this, but they are still trying to do it to play and they suggest to their voters that if ukraine does not receive adequate aid, it will in principle only benefit them, because they will not spend their budget funds, their, their weapons and such and such.
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well, accordingly, it will only be a plus for them, but of course, this is all untrue, this is all wrong, this, this will be a shot in the foot, taking into account the fact that, if ukraine is not helped, then of course it will be bad for the entire european continent , and, unfortunately, we cannot fully reach everyone, because sometimes some political motives prevail, unfortunately over health. just mr. fico, who is actually considered the winner of the elections in slovakia, said the phrase that there are matters more important than ukraine, it is very remarkable that such and such a narrative that these political forces are now rebroadcasting, i'm sorry, yura, you wanted to add something, no, well, i wanted to say that indeed, the russian-ukrainian war affected the european economy, but it hit primarily the central european countries, and
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indeed, yes, many residents of these countries, they understand that this is caused by the war, somehow, that it is not temporary, and that this is the lowest price they can pay, especially in relation to what ukraine is paying, but there are not very educated residents of small towns who believe, and why in gasoline has become more expensive for me, and why have utility bills increased, why did my check increase in the store there, i will explain, it is because of ukraine, and it is because of ukraine, yes, if there is an agreement there, some kind of compromise, then everything would immediately be the best, yes, and here , of course, poland became an exception, because these forces that were in favor of limiting support for ukraine, they just failed, and this is very good for us, but slovakia , unfortunately, has become the opposite case, the populists won on these anti-ukrainian sentiments, and now obviously we will have problems with the new slovak government, in general, some very, very terrible government
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is being formed there, there are a lot of odious politicians who made very unpleasant statements about ukraine, what is known about the state of nazarés, what is the set of these politicians there and how terrible are they exactly personnel, is it really scary that this particular political force is in power now, and can zuzanna chaputova, who is a very ukrainian, pro-ukrainian president of slovakia, well, at least she is considered to be such, because she really spoke a lot, helped a lot with this artillery installation of a zuza on a howitzer, she just calls her by her name, by her name. she repeatedly provided such help, now that's all, she will be able to balance whether those who came came to power after all? on the one hand, it can promise the most odious ministers, it is obvious that there are now negotiations to replace them with someone, well, more sober
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, but this does not count the whole problem , that is, because the government will be more pro-russian and somewhat, well , it is similar to orbanivsky, and this is such a big problem, the only difference between fitz and orban is that fico does not have a monomajority, he will still coordinate his actions with coalition partners, on the one hand there is another completely pro-russian figure andriy danko, and his party is the most important there, and the other is everything after all, this is petr pelligrini, the former prime minister, and due to his demands there, it was included in the coalition agreement that the course with the eu and nato remains unbroken, this is also important, and it is obvious that it is still impossible to completely break it, for example, it is unlikely that fico will break military contracts, that is, it is obvious that slovakia will not hand over weapons, but the previous government, knowing about this, accelerated the handover and slovakia basically gave everything it could
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give to ukraine, it has already given, there are still many military contracts, but it is unlikely that fico will start tearing them up, because they are the way out. and slovak, it is a friend difference, nevertheless fitso is more of a pragmatist. but for me personally, the mystery of both hungary and slovakia lies in the fact that these countries, both of them, at one time experienced and felt for themselves what an invasion is, yes, when russian, soviet at that time troops invaded hungary, before things, october 23 will be the anniversary of the hungarian revolution, and the same thing happened in czechoslovakia. and why did they lose this historical memory, knowing how it was, what it is like, how russia and the kremlin manipulate everything, and now they are coming to power pro-russian forces, isn't that generation gone, has something changed, is it
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the stockholm syndrome, a craving for those who, who can become your next occupier, why and why? it is these countries, well, in slovakia it is a little different, in slovakia, there was even sentiment about the soviet period , because slovakia was quite a poor region, and it was during the socialist period that they began to develop, in particular, they invested there in defense, industry, and so on , and by the way , most of the communist leaders of czechoslovakia were slovaks, that is, in them precisely this period, unlike the czechs, is not perceived as absolute evil, but rather ambiguously, and only now they have begun to leave it, with hungary, well, a little differently, here it is interesting that orbán came under these slogans, he did speeches about those heroes who died defending the country from the soviet union
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, but he was somehow able to cheat when this radical desire to be friends with russia was first pushed to another party for a job, and we are more pragmatic, and then when a job put well, friendly to ukraine, well, something has already happened, the propaganda has already worked to the full, they have lost. this moment of this transition, yes, mr. stanislav, but i would like to hear your opinion on this matter, why do you think they are so easily perceived about russian now, well, i would also not equate hungary and slovakia in this context, here it is worth understanding, that after all, in slovakia there is much more, the number of the population that sympathizes with the russian federation, and there are also many different factors here, in hungary it is somewhat less, but in in hungary, after all, there are more such... narratives that mobilize citizens around voting for the fidesz party, and they have already forgotten the soviet tanks on their streets, don't
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they perceive it as evil? well, let's put it this way, they haven't forgotten and they remember about it, but still, i think that the geographical factor also plays a role here, taking into account the fact that, after all, they are no longer as close to russia as, for example, the same poland, and we see, just now, a sense of the reality of the fear of this, already precisely already in the modern context, for them already rather... more like history , which of course they remember well, but we see, for example , if they are there, let's say, far from the russian borders, then poland, it faces challenges, and i want to remind you that on the eve of a full-scale invasion, in just a few months, a major migration crisis took place, which continues to this day, and in fact, the russians began to test all these hybrid methods in this country, and after that we already saw the narratives
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echoing in the direction of warsaw, and of course there, it is perceived very acutely by citizens, especially those who live closer to the borders with belarus, with the kalinigrad region of the russian federation, and of course there they still prefer to distance themselves, and they also remember very well how many times they fell under the influence of russia in one form or another, which was and of course, now we see how the poles vote for exactly those political forces that , let's say, promise them either a european future or security in the context of the northern of the atlantic alliance, but not such political forces , whose narratives are so close to the kremlin's, well, we have to take a short break , we will continue the conversation for a few minutes, let's talk in more detail about the elections in poland, what they... can change in the attitude towards ukraine, because the last months were very turbulent, will this grain stand-off calm down, are we getting the support
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different, fortunately for us, it should be noted, because if in... came the government is openly anti-ukrainian political forces, then in poland everything is completely different, there is only one party the confederation, which made openly anti-ukrainian statements, just lost this election with a bang, even in the disputed one it scored twice less than expected , if i am not mistaken, in principle i even expect it to take 18, that is, it is possible almost three times, we are aware of that , that apparently the ukrainian issue was not the main issue in these elections, as in any country. one's own issues are always more important, and yet political scientists say that the ukrainian issue itself was one of the factors why the right party and justice seems to be the case, why the almost eight-year rule of the right in poland came to an end, because one of the factors was precisely this dispute with kyiv, these bright and vivid anti-kiev anti-ukrainian statements
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made, precisely in view of the elections, by this party in poland, therefore what has it all come to, what do we have now , how can we assess this situation, can we feel cautiously optimistic about the fact that, after all, in poland, sympathy for ukraine is still quite strong and the level of support will remain, let's go mr. stanislav, with we will start you, sympathy to of ukraine remain, and they are really high, and if, for example, we really draw a parallel with the elections in slovakia, then they differ, and even now... we see how different statements are heard from this and that country and, accordingly, this can affect the further well, let's say the further politics of poland both in the domestic and in the external arena, well , now it is worth understanding that slovakia is already a little ahead of its own election process by one step, it has already passed, let's say,

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