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is currently being held there ... the peace summit, so-called, but only arab countries, exclusively muslim , even, let's say, countries participate there, which means that there are not enough important players, for example, like the united states and israel, if we are talking about peace summit, then it is necessary to organize peace, and how about you, it is about ukraine without ukraine to talk, to agree everywhere, but the ukrainians will continue to fight, what to agree on then with the russians, of course, because the russians will not go anywhere, and the ukrainian troops will not go anywhere, so here it is, it seems to me an amazing story, that’s what they say to me, that mr. oleg will appear in 30 seconds, and i'll just warn you that at the end i want to talk about afghanistan, well, to give a broader view of the situation, because there are earthquake after earthquake in afghanistan, but
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because of ukrainian affairs, through palestinian and israeli affairs, we will not focus on such things as the afghan earthquakes , but it would be worth paying attention to it, so oleg shamshur, diplomat, ambassador of ukraine to the united states, ambassador of ukraine to france, from the fifth to the 20s , that is, first in the usa, and then in france, good health, mr. oleg, yanukovych, thank you for finding time for us, and i have a question for you, is this a summit of muslim countries or arab countries. in egypt, how to say, in the new capital of egypt, i did not know about it myself, that they are building a new capital, because their cairo is somewhat overloaded, and and it has to be unloaded somehow, but there is neither israel nor the united states there, and it looks strange, it looks like discussing ukraine without ukraine, as well as discussing peace in the middle east without israel and without the united states, what does that mean,
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i can't understand, they want to get... a result, or they just want to get together, i would say drink smoke, but muslims don't drink, so it's not clear why, to be honest, i don't understand myself, i about this summit, although i looked at all the resources today, i heard from you, i think that this summit is closer to the option of just getting together, but basically the situation after the... er aggression by hamas against israel, now again uh, well, let's say uh, has such a negative dynamic, because i'm convinced that one of one of the main tasks when this attack against israel was carried out was to disrupt the positive dynamics that existed in israel's relations with its arab
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neighbors, first of all it concerns... such plans are quite real about the conclusion of an agreement between israel and the saudi it really was a breakthrough deal, but now after that it happened that after the discussion about the situation in the gas sector, the benefits of this agreement, this normalization of the situation in well , was minimally pushed back, slowed down and generally not on the agenda now. mr. oleg, therefore, what we saw when the leaders of the arab countries refused to meet with biden is also very telling. mr. oleg, but this is not okay, a week, a month , well six months, and you understand, what i observe, i am not 15 years old, i have been observing the world for a long time, i have
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the impression that if some... idea gets into the world, sooner or later it begins to be implemented, no matter what, and so, okay, let's postpone it - the americans will say, but what does this mean that they ... will not talk to saudi arabia at all, saudi arabia will not talk to him , and that iran will turn into a friend of saudi arabia, won't turn, and so on and so on , now it is very difficult to say how the situation will develop further, because it is at least unknown how the current crisis will end, in what form it will be carried out, entry of israeli forces. the gas sector, or is it at all will happen, that is, i would not start drawing such forecasts or formulating them now, we have to wait for the minimum, the end of this
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conflict, this military confrontation. then to america, you were the ambassador for a long time, this is the information, so biden spoke, biden was watched, well, according to the experts, 20 million people watched live at the same time, and he said that he would help ukraine, he would help israel, he explained his politics, it really affects something, it's just that, and the senators sitting in the congress, congressmen say, oh, we didn't want to give money to israel, but now the president said yes, oh, we didn't want to give money to ukraine, but now the president said yes to us. ladies, it's just very interesting, i'm absolutely convinced that in russia, for example, it's an anti-democratic country, putin's speech has an effect, but america is a democratic country, and the president didn't say much, so
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you have a question about how influential it is , can be an influential address to the nation, the president of the united states, which, what result? i would say as follows, this e the speech is absolutely necessary, it has been planned for some time and it was planned that it would be dedicated to ukraine, but the situation has changed, so here we saw the connection between israel and ukraine, and all this was set in the framework of the confrontation between autocracies, terrorists and democracy. er, what will be the impact now, again, it's hard to say, you have to wait, but it's clear that this was a speech, almost exclusively for the american domestic audience, that is, it was aimed at uh, at american citizens at ordinary
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americans, so there are messages here, let's say , ideological, messages in the style of american exceptionalism, but at the same time there is an explanation why... aid to ukraine to israel corresponds to the national interests of the united states, that is, this phrase "smart investment in american security" and there are forensic explanations, that is, support, production of the american military-industrial complex, that is, what ordinary americans understand very well, on the one hand, on the other hand, of course, in order to get everything done, in order to put pressure on er, the american congress, on its the republican part, obviously, here we can definitely say that it will not be easy, there are already
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the first reactions from the side of republican politicians, obviously, the amount that was announced is more than 100 billion dollars, there will be quite difficult negotiations, how will the situation in the palace representatives, it will be clear after a certain time , as for the reaction of the american public, we need to wait until there are soundings, at least if you look at the presentation, i carefully reread the speech several times, then in principle the argumentation, well, in my opinion, it is enough clear and unambiguous. mr. ambassador, but look , i was going to ask you about this, even here, i made a note of something, and who can be against, contra, yes, about this, it’s biden, he says, we need to do this,
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do this , to do this, against authoritarianism, against this, for the military-industrial complex, for the spread of freedom, i put myself in the place of that republican who is against, and what, what cards i have in my hands, what should i say, and i think , that we need... an authoritarian system and support putin, and so on to support hamas, and they are well done, let them continue to kill ukrainians, jews and so on, i just don't see any argumentation. well, you don’t see it, the republicans see it, and you can already tell what kind of argument it will be , because there is exactly the first reaction on the part of republican politicians, i would say yes , it is a division into several parts, well , - firstly, those who are in favor of reducing aid to ukraine say that it is necessary to help the old ally israel first, and this should be done. center on the one hand, on
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the other hand, those who support ukraine, let's say, like niki haley, one of the candidates for the republican nomination, the former ambassador to the united states in the united nations, on the contrary, she says that it is necessary to help ukraine even more decisively, more quickly, and in sufficient quantities, those who supported ukraine, after all, among the republican senators, they say that there will be difficult negotiations, in particular, as i understand, they will advocate restrictions on budgetary and financial assistance, in particular on the salaries and pensions of ukrainian officials, that is, there are and such an argumentation, in short speaking, i would say in this way that it worked as usual in the details, that is, even those who receive ukraine will obviously
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put forward their priorities, and there is definitely a danger of torpedoing the funding of ukraine's aid by a small but very vocal group of republicans in the house of representatives, what they are capable of, we have already seen and what they are capable of in the future, well, at least , i would say yes, i personally got a certain emotional response from the fact that jordan withdrew his candidacy, because it is one of the most odious anti-ukrainian figures in the house of representatives. we would like to thank oleg shamsher, diplomat, ambassador of ukraine to the united states from 5 to 10 years and ambassador of ukraine to france from 14 to 20 to 20 years. thank you, mr. olezh , for informing us a little here. i can only add that i don't have any.
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with ukrainians, with the ukrainian ambassador, this issue is not in israel, but simply to diplomats, this issue is the so-called summit in egypt, the peace summit, and there are no israelis there, and there are no americans there. that is, well, it is quite important, it seems to me, to ask the jews and the americans what to do with hamas, it seems to me that it is natural, but there are no jews there, there are no, there are no americans, the question is how much is being watched in israel at all, do newspapers write, does the radio speak, not the internet, etc what is the key, if there is a single key or there is a double key, this is what is happening today in egypt? of course, this is also covered, but there it is clear that even without israel and the united states, there is something to be discussed,
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for example, one or another political settlement after this military operation and humanitarian aspects, now, for example, egypt, jordan. it doesn't matter, they have officially emphasized this more than once at the highest level that they will not allow any mass movement of palestinian refugees to the territory of egypt or jordan, as some suggested that for them this is a red line, politically unacceptable, so they say, on the contrary, that the palestinians should stay in their places, we should provide all possible humanitarian aid, and so on and so on, as in principle, let's say, if it comes to... the israel defense forces will indeed overthrow hamas , then questions arise as to what kind of further political settlement there will be , to which both the united states and israel would like, as far as possible, to involve both europe and the dead arab countries in first of all, the same egypt, that is , in principle, oddly enough, one thing does not
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interfere with another, well, but this is me for the audience, i will say that the jordanians have learned very well, that's why. but it is not natural, when the so-called palestinian refugees were in the territory of jordan, then they had to be expelled simply with weapons in their hands, and king hussein did just that, since then they have a good vaccination in ardania, they do not let palestinian refugees in , but the question is different, and when the ground operation will begin after all, because well, how would i even ask like that, i think that it will start, but here... public opinion is very much in favor of the operation, as far as i see it, israeli, and now how much this public opinion can move the political leadership.
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political leadership and military-political leadership, that is, is it possible to exclude the removal from the agenda, as it is from the agenda, simply the issue of occupation by israeli troops from the gaza sector, now in principle, since the goals of the operation have already been officially declared to be the destruction of military capabilities hamas and hamas as such, as the authorities in the gas sector, it is impossible to do this without a ground operation, and now, in principle , the preparation of the ground forces for the operation is mostly already completed, and the delay is mainly more political, but it is not only public opinion, but also the political and military leadership all share this opinion that it is necessary to carry out an airlift operation, but there are some or other complicating factors, such as... the same factor of hostages, not only
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israeli, but also foreign, including american, plus the settlement of all these issues, the humanitarian aspects during such an operation and the transfer of civilians from the northern part of the sector to the southern, and the delivery of humanitarian aid, all of this was discussed , including during the visit of president biden, let's say this, since it was precisely from since such a serious, large operation is being planned, he is as careful as possible before it... he will weigh all possible aspects of it, both during the operation and after it, and then only proceeds to the business, but in a purely military sense, mainly cooking it's already finished, david, look, i have a provocative question, i warn you right away, when i watched it on the seventh , eighth, october, the ninth, well, sharp, when it was terrible, all these frames, and i watch... the ninth israeli channel, then
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есть русскояйчный, so i understand what is happening, well, i’m asking, i’m trying to understand, i had the feeling that both military and civilian israelis, as they say, are saying the following words: we are very sorry for the hostages, it’s terrible that they were taken, but if you put hostages, hostages, etc. on the scales a serious... attack on the gas sector of the destruction of hamas, we, god, what i am carrying, we are ready to sacrifice hostages, i am mistaken, or there were such elements that yes, these, these hundreds of people, this is terrible, but if we do not destroy hamas, there will be thousands of victims, not hundreds, it is hardly possible to say that we are ready to sacrifice, but now precisely because the hostage is not some isolated incident. because of everything that happened, a big war began, and the goals that israel now sets are
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the destruction of hamas, then indeed the entire the balance of factors for and against is changing, now indeed, oddly enough, because hostages are always a painful topic for israel, now, oddly enough, they are still in second place, in first place indeed now war and the military goal is the destruction of the overthrow of hamas, because in principle, if you don't go in this direction, but go... in the direction of the priority of the hostages, then this is exactly what hamas was trying to achieve, because one of the hostages used is exactly like a human shield in the literal and figurative sense, if you start on the ground operation, then the hostages will be exposed to one or another danger and so on, now yes indeed hostages, oddly enough, no longer occupy the first place in the list of priorities, one more important question, indeed, it is more global, we know what you have... israel, and we know that the world media and intellectuals in the world are talking about the possibility of the third, fourth
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world war, there is something, something, something, but when i look, i understand that the potential israeli-american, it so surpasses all the surrounding potentials israel, iran and sy. here are the houthis of yemen and so on, that in general, in the case of a big war , it will not last long, well, simply because, well, hezbollah will be bombed , hamas will be bombed, iran’s nuclear facilities will be bombed, i don’t know who it will be, the israelis or americans, two aircraft carriers, i don’t know how together, but i know that 90 military aircraft are on the gerald ford, well, that’s simple... colossal power, we’re simply talking about only one aircraft, there are also auxiliary ships , i don't know, a dozen and a half, in general, it's a huge fist
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military, what do you say, is it really true? a military tie between israel and its neighbors? now all the efforts of the same united states are aimed at ensuring that such a war does not happen, this was the reason for the perebroski strike groups, not because the united states now wants to start and wage such a war, precisely to warn those others so that they do not join now to that war, how it is going, if it is pure..." plans to assess the potential, of course, the united states, even without israel, can inflict much more a more powerful blow than their opponents, but in this scenario it is more likely a question of mutual damage, for example, hizbullah too, if you don’t even take iran, it is clear that as a result of the war, it can also cause severe damage, but in the course of the war
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, israel too, let’s say so , it will not be sweet, military... hamas and although a war on two fronts and in general a multi-theatre war on several fronts at once is considered against by the israeli general staff, but it will not be easy, the level will be destroyed, there will also be quite a lot of victims, so let's say , hats off it won't work here either while the potential is real. david, look, it’s a tricky question, we still have a lot of time, that is, 2 and a half minutes, but it’s a question that is discussed by israeli intellectuals, newspapers, analysts, they, you, you understand your neighbors, because after the history with hamas and attack on october 7, well , it's just very difficult to imagine how
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you can calculate the course of the opponents of israel, that time. or hezbollah, well, because they gave hamaza water, money, medicine , and so on, they hired the territory of israel, and that is, everything was done so that somehow they would smile at each other or at least not spit in each other's eyes, it did not help, and when i sit and, well, the americans put two aircraft carriers, which means, probably, this is hinted at by hezbollah , that don't climb, but it's in some logical... line , you can say that, but there is no logic, as it seems to me, and we will climb anyway, as it is discussed, here are you, your colleagues, the opposite side, you can you understand how it is, what logic is there, or it is incomprehensible to no one, including themselves, of course, they have logic, but one of the reasons for this failure on october 7 was precisely that they would not
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hang their own logic on the enemy's head, would not decide for him. it is beneficial for him, it is not beneficial, this is what led to an incorrect assessment of intentions, the same with hezbollah , the same with irene, now, of course, this topic is being discussed vividly, everyone says that all our ideas are about what is beneficial and unfavorable for them, it is necessary to review, and this is exactly at this moment, and the question is made, if in purely technical terms plan, intelligence should still roughly estimate what they want to do, and so on, here we need to focus more, not so much on the assessment of intentions, but only on the assessment of opportunities, which is why now the maximum combat readiness for war in the north, despite the fact that there the incidents are still small, but in general, they are preparing for the fact that , despite all the reasons and against , nevertheless, the enemy will decide to take the initiative to start a major war, and this may not happen because of his initiative, because the gradual escalation of all these, daily small
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incidents will lead to a big war, but in general, yes, now one of... one of the most pressing questions is how we can revise our assessments of the enemy and not impose our own on him. thank you, thank you very much, david edulman, a military expert was with us, thank you very much, we are, they tell me, we still need a second, and i don't know whether to let anya melnyk speak right now, no, they say, not yet not not on time, but it comes in seconds, you have to measure it. i will casually say that after that after the break, after the news, after anna eva's work, we will talk about religion , we will talk about poland and china, this is what awaits us after, and i will also talk about what i promised you, i definitely want to draw attention to afghanistan, not so much to afghanistan,
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