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[000:00:00;00] deprivation of status, not shaking hands and the rest on the consequences that follow from this, but again we return to the first, it is clear that there is injustice and hand washing, but here i would like to try to answer, well in such cases, do nothing, we have to move on to to poland, from the ukrainian church to poland. oleksandr rabanko, metropolitan of pereyasliv, vishnevsky, of the orthodox church of ukraine, was in touch with us, now, i hope, is dariusz maternyak, polish expert on international issues, head of the center poland-ukraine, i hope he will appear now, and i have several questions for him, good health, mr. dariush, thank you for finding time for us, why is the first question
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simple and difficult at the same time, why is the government still existing that the authorities in poland were shaken, what happened to the poles, that they saw why they came to the polling station in such a large number, and then it became clear after the vote that they came precisely in order to change the situation in power, that is why such the number has come, and what is right and justice not so done? what is it to the poles? i didn't like it, good evening, good afternoon, good evening once again bracket, dos difficult , why did it happen, no pewno u kozhnogo pewno by, my opinion, why, why why, in that case
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the majority...' for the opposition political forces, probably so it happened because, if many people thought that they don't like something , they don't like certain things that are happening under this government, which, which is, which is ending here, its term, its cadence, probably that's why so many people wanted to change something, give something
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just a chance, do something different. it must be said that quite a lot of voters, the party of law and justice went to vote, if you look at the numbers, at the percentages, then they probably managed to mobilize everyone who was able to vote for them, but the opposition party mobilized people, in the first line of these people, who may not have such very strong, very strong political passions, but at this moment they thought
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that they should vote in these elections, because they do not like the situation and something needs to be changed, that is, maybe even a majority, maybe not a majority , but many people probably voted, not even for the opposition parties, but against the right and justice party, it is possible that it was just such a scenario. dariush, please tell me, the political system of poland, well, we know, there is an anglo-saxon tradition, well, the most characteristic. america, democrats, republicans, they were 100 years ago, democrats, republicans and 150 , in europe, in poland, as i see it, in israel, for example, you can change parties appear before the elections and then the elections, they can win and become by the superiors somehow, or they can lose and simply disappear, there is a third power in poland, i did not hear of such a thing 10
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years ago, the confederation 10 years ago i did not hear of such a thing, it was there somewhere semi-underground, well, not underground, but a small one, but here we are, the poles, we can say that maybe law and justice will disappear, well, they lost. they do not have support, but in the process of forming another government, people will forget next time , the same people will form a new party, as it should be, as you see yourself in poland, it will be some kind of stability, as once the right-wing people there liberals, socialists, right, left, will this landscape constantly change , well, actually, we have this stability, it is probably
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there, 120 years, which has been constantly operating under this name for almost 120 years, what about the confederates, maybe the name is here it's a little different, maybe the structure is different, but there you can find people who have been in politics for 10-15 years, that is, these people are also what they are and they
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scenes, i.e. where we have more or less to the right, somewhere in the center, we have the civil platform chipl, or the third road eastward, na lewica, we have lewica, i think that somehow it will not change very much in the coming years. now we were showing footage here and there was donald tusk on the footage. to what extent can we think that he is the next prime minister, whether he himself wants to, or he doesn't want to, or this cooperation of the future possible power will not give him, won't give him, he will say, someone else will say: i want, and and and trust that , there may be more, like what is the fate of donald tusk, who, as everyone knows, in fact, this is such a european figure. huh, so i guess if what the reps say here is to be believed of these three opposition parties, i.e.
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she is strong, are there any contradictions that tusk will not last four years and there will be some reformation, someone will leave the coalition, someone someone will not like something for some reason, well, i can already see that there will be agricultural guys in the coalition who are very much against ukrainian grain, ukrainian wheat, and obviously, tusk is in favor, he said about it, well, he was very careful to say that it is necessary to help ukrainians , but poland is still in the first place, but we need to help the ukrainians, in short, how strong can the new, new coalition and therefore the new government be? well, it's hard to say, yes, at this moment everyone says that everything is going to be very strong and there are no questions here, and how it will actually be, let's see, because in fact, this coalition, it will not be... but at least, if i am not mistaken
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, six political forces, that is, the civil coalition, this is the real platform and the party of the greens, the third way, the psl in fact, and shimon's party, poland 2050, the left is also a coalition of several parties, maybe two or three, if i'm not mistaken, that is, we will have people who seem to have agreed, as if they have... this term, which will start in the middle of
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november, which is unknown, probably not there will be no bigger problems, what will happen next, like this it will look like, it's hard to say, thank you very much, dariusz materniak, polish expert on international issues, head of the poland ukraine center was in touch with us, thank you, now we'll watch the advertisement, and then we'll talk, even about china, so that's our plan . the child caught a virus, mother vira has faith in dekasan, inhaled dekasan gets into the lungs where the virus works , mother vira is happy, dekasan inhalation is an antidote to viruses and bacteria, and dekasan is also indicated for angina, dekasan is an inhalation antiseptic, damn stairs, my legs can't walk anymore i expected that there is no health, and what kind of health is there in the sixth decade, i thought so until i... tried gerovital. gerovital + phytovitamin complex that takes care of the skin and
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finding time for us, and we will try together with you to figure out what is happening in that distant, beautiful, huge country under called china. the people's republic, and my first question, this, this meeting, the denominator of which is the phrase - one train, one by one, how is it, one, one belt, one way, one way, there is something, yes, one way, in short, but the question is how important it really is, this, this project, is it still alive, or already half-alive, because on the one hand, if... if you think back to 10 years ago and the advent of jinping, it just radiated with fluorescent colors and there were huge successes , but already after 5-7 years, i began to notice that one country appears dissatisfied, the second country is dissatisfied,
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the third country is dissatisfied and so on and so on, that is, not everything is going perfectly, and now i am not so, not so much, about this. but now i heard again with new force in october of this year, a huge meeting, i still did not understand the results, well, putin came there, everyone shook hands, hugged, but i did not understand it, to what extent it is a reality now, this, taking into account also to the fact that the americans offer the same only through india, congratulations, mr. mykola, indeed 10 years for xijinping. it was possible to summarize once, because well, the chinese economy really has its problems today, and the belt and the road, this project, 1 trillion was invested in it, it has certain problems in economic terms, because the countries that received
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credit from china. is a project china, and it's paying off, because along with the investment that china has lavished on developing countries, chinese companies and chinese goods have come there, and it's brought china... big dividends, because for 140 countries of the world, china is the number one trading partner, that is, these countries have a connection with the chinese market and, of course, they do not want to abandon them, despite certain problems there. in addition, it has paid very serious political dividends for china,
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because you and i can see how now when the west began to think about its relations with the global half, how china makes its contacts, and often the countries of the global half abstain, for example, when voting or choose china's side, that is, it plays a role. as for the current forum, as a matter of fact, xijin ping first outlined the steps in which he will further develop this project and, in fact, how china will proceed. among the audience, well, we see in the center... putin was really the main guest and the russian side was actively looking for symbolism, of course, he is really the main and most important one, well, it is not surprising, because the high-ranking officials who were present, there were no such large and influential countries, well
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, these are countries, for example, laos, cambodia, thailand, some representatives of africa, latin america , however, from europe , let’s say, there were only the president of hungary, orban and the president of serbia, uchich, everything, that is, well , it is clear that against this background, russia... is still the largest state, and accordingly, that is why and not only therefore, a lot of regalia, a lot of such compliments were aimed at putin, so what the project itself, now it is taking a slightly different form, china is moving to e-commerce, to the spread of its technologies, to green energy, well, and such important ones, except for investments that are significantly inferior, for example, to the trillion, somewhere that was
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invested, there are only 47 billion, however, there will be an institutionalization of this project, because before, well, the belt and road was something very broad, chinese state corporations participated in the construction of certain projects there, the chinese state concluded bilateral agreements with each of the countries giving on such under hidden conditions, loans, on non-transparent conditions, and answers and involved her companies, her products in order to implement these projects, in fact, some body to which you can turn and which could be called in words that it embodies this project, not there was, so there will be institutionalization, that is, china does not give up what it has been developing for 10 years. but in view of changes in one's economic situation, changes in the economic nature of the world,
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one will not scatter money, but one's own contacts have been made, those connections and such a deep presence in the regions, of course it will be used, ms. natalya , look, i have such a tricky question for you, you know, through finland to china, i was in finland in the 90s and talked there with political scientists, various professors and members of parliament, and they told me that you know, now the union has collapsed, when in 1991, and a quarter of our economy was tied to the soviet union, despite the fact that finland is a capitalist country, soviet the union is socialist, but it was like that when you said 140 countries enter into some kind of trade relations with china. and china is an important factor for them, then my question is, if there is a crisis in china, if the default, which is on the verge
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of china, it seems to me, has been standing for six months or almost a year, there is a mortgage crisis, such a thing, then the economy and these 140 countries, that is, it is discussed in circles, southeast asia, the same laos, which is somehow involved seriously. pakistan that is involved is obviously there and they have to understand that it's dangerous, you can't k to put your eggs only in one basket called the people's republic of china, in fact, look, for 10 years, the chinese economy developed a lot, it was such, you know, the engine of the world economy in general, and accordingly, trade with china, enter the markets of china , whether to receive investments, well, this was very much the number one question for many countries, just remember, for example, our politicians, well, especially the era of yanukovych, when
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ours sought to reach out to china more actively, as a matter of fact, we were also replaced russian market, remember there in the 13th year, when we were tied to the state, you mentioned, china invested 60 billion there in the pakistan economic belt project, well, china, as a matter of fact, was very interested in this belt, well, pakistan involved what in fact, offered to help him develop logistics. it is important to china because it got a direct route to gwadar port , that is, to the indian sea, it does not need to go through the strait of malacca there, and 60 billion for the pakistani economy, it really became a burden, and today we are with you we hear that inflation, big... big debt, it affects the economy of pakistan very seriously and even causes a political crisis, an example, for example, sri
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lanka, china has offered very generously to the government of this country. its investments and it was still being built, there are various roads, a cricket field worth billions, hotels, there with such special decorations that have not been seen in the world, and in the end, sri lanka has accumulated so much credit that, if you remember, in the past year in the summer, she was also on the verge of default, and when it came to talking about restructuring of debts, it turned out that china, well, it is not very willing... to give something to someone, reduce it, cut it, as it was done, for example, by the countries that represent, for example, the paris club, or the countries of the big seven, i.e. , when it came to a problem in such economies , some of them, with their policies, led to the bankruptcy of their state, often their debts were somewhat forgiven, some were wiped away, so
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the last question is asked, excuse me, ms. natalya, because there are two minutes left, that's true. there are many, but all the experts i spoke to which i have read, they say that it is not in china's style to have alliances, to negotiate, it is such a western tradition, so to speak, to make concessions to each other and create the european union, china simply does not have such experience, as far as this is true information, what will he do it's difficult, but you yourself say that it's not... not a parisian club, that it's okay, i don't have money, i'm coming to paris, they say, listen, let's postpone, let's do this, let's do that, and we agree, china doesn't like it , china does not want to agree on how true this information is, how they can organize around them so, if they do not have experience of agreements, they have another experience, their chinese, where is china, it is called
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chunguk, it is a middle country, a country, the main navel of the earth, well, in fact, historically , civilizationally, there was also the navel of the earth, and there, in fact, the main one, there were all these countries around that brought gifts to the navel of the earth and thus received loyalty, and in fact , today everything that china is building economically, and this project, it serves to ensure that china's economy, to as a matter of fact, china was rising, and then it was very beautiful... proposal, we live well, and you will have a piece, a piece around you, and you will be not bad with us, that is, you said correctly, about alliances on equal terms, of course, until now china has never demonstrated such an ability to build equal conditions with by someone, because how can a country that is the center of the earth build equal relations with a vassal,
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thank you very much, i'm sorry mrs. natalya, natalya plaksienko butyrska expert pitansky... the master of foreign policy was in touch with us, now in touch with you there will be no connection without me anna yavemelnyk, she will tell you the latest news, and i say goodbye, see you tomorrow, good luck ladies and gentlemen. thank you for your work , the newsroom will tell about the most important things, in particular, who finances hamas in switzerland, an investigation has been launched, uefa did not like the song about vladimir putin, and exactly how the rashists plan to surround avdiyivka, details below. on the day the russians killed a civilian resident of nikopol , a 71-year-old man was fishing when the occupiers covered the city with fire. serhii lesak, head of the dnipropetrovsk regional military administration, reports. six times muscovites shelled the margonitsa community and
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