[000:00:00;00] but they cost a lot of money, that's why especially the training process, drones fight, i haven't seen a single drone that wouldn't be destroyed sooner or later, because people are learning and that's normal, it's a normal process, it should be like that , training, how it happens, knowledge, skills, skills, because by the time you get to the skills, naturally you will get a lot of cones, so you need, yes, financial infusions are definitely needed, unfortunately, there are none now, i can’t say, on it's a pity that... the support was so wonderful the state is organized, so these are specific moments, they unfortunately happen , well, this is an important moment, because it, we are now talking about the fact that we have to manufacture a larger number of drones, what is the point of increasing the number, if we do not have, the capabilities of experienced operators, who will use this number on the battlefield, there is probably a logical error here, which must be taken into account or the ministry of defense or the ministry of defense or another structure, absolutely, absolutely, you are right, so look, in order to further

improve... more our communication with the state, let's say, the defense forces, with the general staff, we are now engaged in the certification of our center , so to say, in order to make it clear that we are carrying out regulatory orders, which prescribe the training, what knowledge, skills, and abilities a pilot-operator should have unmanned aerial systems and get recognition, let's say, yes, certification of the center, and i hope that after that our communication will become much more... understandable and appropriate and we will already communicate a little more adequately in this regard direction mr. igor, now there is such a military accounting specialty as a drone operator, has it already appeared in these military tickets, or not yet? yes, it has already appeared and little by little they are getting used to it, because it is a completely new subject, still, unfortunately, in the second year of the war, but there are already positive developments in this direction.

mr. igor, thank you very much for the work you do for our armed forces, for our defense, for the work of your school, for the work of your courses, i will remind our viewers that it was igor kravchenko, lead instructor of the training center for bpp operators kruk, lieutenant colonel of the reserve, and we understand that now we are at such another decisive stage of hostilities, when we must be adaptive, innovative and understand all the risks on the one hand of a long-term war, and on the other hand have the opportunity to to adapt to it and overtake the enemy in those directions where we have sufficient potential, here we can talk about snipers, and about the increase of experienced instructors who use drones, which now, by the way, destroy a significant amount of enemy equipment, even competing with mortars, so these nuances must be taken into account in order to increase the effectiveness of our combat operations, so these are the main conclusions that can be drawn from this military program, and then stay on the

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on espresso. china, with the influence of russia, we must, well, we have no other way out, we have to incline as many countries as possible to us, at least in the plan that they would be, at least neutral, and then work with them further, in your opinion, what results can be achieved during this conference, well , about what i said, well, first of all , the result is that such a number will come, because anyway these states, that means they see this platform, well, as a platform where you can. how, if not to speak, then to listen, and i would very much like to listen , so this is a preparatory moment for more global meetings there, at the level of heads of state, yes, because we still do not reject

plans to hold a global peace summit , yes, where there should be, in my opinion, the maximum number of countries from all over the world, so that it would actually be, well, conditionally something like the un, well, of course , it won’t be like that, but for there to be very, very many countries, then any decisions or resolutions, or komenyuke are adopted there, they will have, well, let’s say this, well, it sounds pathetic, a planetary scale, and they will listen to it, and this summit may help to convince someone, unequivocally, yes, we will, well, with each summit, we will develop a support group for ourselves , and do we already have any intermediate results, or are there already those who do not only... listens, but also hears us, well, first of all, as far as i remember, to this same peace formula, zelenskyi, in his address, it seems, at one of these summits, or

which summits he addressed, said, that you can join not to the whole formula, but join to certain parts, to points, yes, if you like, for example, and i think for food security, i am not ready to name the country now, but i think that a lot is joined, because it's a challenge, it's about hunger, it's about economic troubles, yes in these states, so i'm sure that it's on this at the summit, clusters will be worked out, to which states, which representatives have come, they will at least talk about what suits them and what does not suit them and where they can support us, where they cannot support us, and whether jida has become a turning point in the consolidation of the world community, or is it still ahead? i think that every meeting, you said in terms of numbers, again, sorry to go back to the numbers, the further, the closer to the global summit, let's say, the

more participants, and this suggests that the turning point is not far off, but i think the turning point will be the powerful summit of the heads of state, where i am going, as i said, where there will be a lot, it will be a turning point in the attitude of the world to what is happening between us and russia. this should announce to the whole world that this is wrong, that there is a formula for the peace of ukraine, and well , which was announced by the president, and it should be supported, because it is about justice, and then i think it will be a turning point for us and for the russian federation , she must, it is clear that after that the war will not will most likely stop, but the whole world will say that no, this cannot be done, and we will base our actions in international organizations, of any kind, on these results, well , i really hope that they will be positive for us, see , but 140 countries are conditionally behind us, yes, they think so, that is why we have the right to insist that peace must be on our terms and not on the terms of the aggressor in any case. friends, i think you can see in the corner of your screen that

the configuration of air alarms has changed, during our discussions, now, red on the map of cherkassy and kirovohrad regions and the air forces of the armed forces of ukraine are reporting the threat of using attack air defense systems, so please, residents of these regions, take care of your own safety in the way that is available to you now. for now, ukraine strives for peace, and will continue to discuss this peace, including summits. that will take place in malta, russia continues to create new terrorist threats for us. putin's statement about patrolling migs with daggers over the black sea does not go beyond the usual russian rhetoricians this is the opinion of the british ministry of defense. according to the department, this message is aimed at the domestic audience, which calls the measure an aggressor, and russia's actions are allegedly necessary for protection. putin's specific mention of the dagger missile and its capabilities was almost certainly made in strategic messaging

to demonstrate that russia is still capable of producing and using newly developed weapons despite the ongoing war in ukraine, according to a statement from the british ministry of defense . i will remind you that yurii egnat, the spokesman of the air force command, stated that there may be more air alarms in ukraine because these migs will fly over the black sea, but i also remind you that for a long time migs were based on the territory of the same belarus , which is very close to the ukrainian border, and for example, the same kiev is much closer than the black sea, so i think that the likely number of dishes will really increase, but will it be critically different from what we have already experienced in some periods of time every morning , like clockwork, it just seems that at 9:00 they had training flights, we were worried, because these training flights could easily become combat and of course such messages should not be ignored. in connection with this and that, i will say, well, as lonid

danylovych once said, it was already, how do you evaluate this, this statement and these maneuvers of the russian federation with patrolling over the black sea ? i support your logic, because it already happened, and it was in the form of our unfunny iskanders, remember when they went there in t-shirts there and so on, all of them wrote, and now the same thing is happening, well, we can tell them in the same way: do not laugh at us with your daggers, because in fact, i am very serious about this type of weaponry, but we have shown that there are analogues, because before the war with ukraine, half the world was intimidated with these daggers, that this is the missile that cannot be caught , that's it, that's it, if we launch it, that's it, we have to go to the cemetery immediately and immediately in white sneakers, because there are no options , ukraine destroyed this myth, so it should be treated seriously.

but mr. putin, when he scares ukraine, first of all, and the world, should remember where the black sea fleet is, where is it now, there were no analogues, and now they are hiding like rats in the bays and soon they will all be in novorossiya, well maybe our drones will be reequipped a little and they will hunt them more actively there, yes, so the rhetoric is understandable, but i want to draw the attention of the audience, yours, to what you are watching. what happened, we passed the next one, together with our american colleagues, we passed another red line, and what we see as a result, we see are frightening again, but thank god for now, i want to be wrong, but no such actions, which the whole world was afraid of, that here and there missiles will appear for attacks and everything, escalation, the escalation took place in putin’s head, if you paid attention, as he told in china, it was very beautiful there, there was

a tribune, with such flowers, well, in principle, like at a funeral, yes, and he was standing there and said that here we are there, we will beat and so on, but only shaking the air, intimidation, and even bears, i began to worry, he didn't say anything about it, whether he was fine or not , because logically the nuclear scarecrow should have been applied again, well, he's not ready for it yet, yes, that's why... i think that this is a very good signal, in that we have been provided with such weapons that we can continue to provide everything, in the atakams case, we can continue to provide, because there will be no escalation... and putin's statements, they speak of his weakness , actually, because, really, he who can strike, strikes, remember how we had, we were punished for shooting down rockets, yes, a massive missile attack at once, so

that it would be unprovoked, yes, but now there is no such resource, now there is a perspective, so we will fly there, as long as you will fly there, question number one, and if we have airplanes, will you be able to fly over the black sea? and if you accidentally crash into a drone, anything can happen, or maybe our kids don't just swim well and fast, but maybe they even fly, yes, and the ukrainian special services know perfectly well where these planes are located, this is the belbek airfield, and we know that near this airfield , literally 10 km away and even closer, there have been repeated explosions, and even more so, this is our... territory and we have no restrictions, not even obligations to our foreign partners that we cannot attack this territory, i.e. this, ukraine proved that this game can be played very effectively together, maybe putin is still sending the migs with daggers

here, he wants to somehow influence the work of the temporary grain corridor, well yes, it is, well, i narrowed down his bullying to a specific event. but, this is the following logic, in fact, in the black sea, ships can no longer do what they did before, they are hiding, so it is necessary to demonstrate, at least a threat to what is working, because indeed, when putin, in fact, single-handedly stopped the grain agreement, he said, that's all, there won't be, he thought that they would start to rebel on their knees, saying that, well, how come, how come, people are already starving there, because he understood. there would be concern , there would be so on and so forth, but here ukraine, together with its partners, found options, and they are being used more and more, that is, in quantitative terms, and it is clear that it is not beneficial for russia, they tried to do it in a minefield way, but nato and our allies there

showed that and they are ready for this, they have conducted certain exercises, so now the sky, where we have it, is a weak link, that is... our sky is still a weak link, but not 100 percent, so putin uses it, it is completely with you i agree that it's such a, well, chekistskadovka, but it looks like two-stroke well, not only these opportunities are used by putin, russia uses spies, social networks and russian state agents all over the world, its main goal is to undermine the virus of society in the integrity of democratic elections. the corresponding data was made public by american intelligence. the united states sent a report to more than 100 countries around the world and noted that moscow is trying to sow instability in democratic countries and therefore portrays the elections as not functional and the governments that win them as illegitimate. washington stated that is also aware of its own vulnerability to this threat, and therefore the world is recommended

to work on mitigating russian interference in the elections. in particular, it is about sanctions, exchange of information, expulsion of russian spies and travel ban. how do you assess the impact of russian disinformation campaigns on our allies , primarily that it is possible, although i think it would be safe to say that russia is being used all over the world, not just in the west. well, yes, but you see, what hurts, that's what they talk about, they don't have it elections, they want there to be no elections everywhere, so what do you remember, your veterim were just talking about what kadyrov said, why elections, why, if there is putin, yes, and they want to. it was like that everywhere in the world, and we can see, but if we take the next election, then i think that, for example, i don't know if polish had such an influence there, but the previous influence was in slovakia, because the media there, well, let's say , in quotes are financed by gazprom, yes, or by gazprom's subsidiaries, and there is a significant influence, and we

see the attitude towards ukraine and europe as such, that is why this is a very serious moment, because there is also cyber, and the united states felt the impact, and it was a very loud story, so it is necessary not to treat the russian factor lightly here, but simply to throw it away as factor, i.e. to prohibit, not to be afraid to act in such a way that they would say that it is not there that we encroach on the freedom of the press, yes, you just have to be aware, well, you know how we have red on television. there is propaganda, yes, then it is possible to mark and throw out what, well, those media, which are suspected not only for but also caught influencing because it's an election - it's an influence on an election - it's an influence on national security, in my opinion, and should

be punished accordingly, especially, well, there's another element that i don't know how to deal with to fight, but he is also russian, well, for example, we take elon musk, yes, he is american , he has american resources, but brains, well, what to do with them, yes, and this question is very big, because... in politicians are people, you can make a lot of money there, like those who live in america, like americans, but they think like russians, and this means that propaganda , it enters the american space in different ways, and you understand, they do not always work with the fact that someone is bad, they find some negative moment in every country and they inflate it on a global scale, and russian ears are not always visible, it’s just that these are some confrontations that happen in every country, but these spies and useful idiots make it possible to find these pain points, in

the united states we see there, for example, in every state there are some nuances, yes, and they are they work with them, they inflate them, in every country there is some kind of migrant crisis or another, they know it and they inflate it, and they are not there, there is no russia there, there is not a single letter that determines that this is an action russian federations, but they are rocking. and it is very important that the special services, first of all, skillfully work with this and are not afraid to throw it away, and the problem is still big that russia has destroyed itself, democracy, freedom of speech, but very, very skillfully, i emphasize this repeatedly, able to work with countries from mechanisms of the democratic world, they find opportunities to destroy democracy, use... democratic values ​​and opportunities in these countries, and this is a very serious challenge.

we know that the united states of america has very important elections ahead, and russia is hoping for their results, because the future strategy of the aggressor state will be based on this, is this a kind of message from russia, a warning from american intelligence to the russian federation? there is, but you understand. the federation is not some kind of conditional thing with which you can agree yes in the middle say i i see what you do don't do it he will say ok i won't do no this is a very sneaky enemy he will see that he is caught he told him that he sees that he will to do, he will do, he will continue because he has no other option, they have another saying that if we destroy the election in the united states, then we will destroy everything... that we can destroy, they have a deadline of there in the public about the fact that, well,

that's all before the elections in the united states after the election in the united states everything will be in chocolate for the russian federation, well let's see, first of all, we as a state respect the choice of the american voters, as in every country, because it is a democracy, but i think that the united states should have learned a lesson the previous one, if they don't study it, then they get ... what happened last time, but i think at this stage the united states is already ready to confront russia, internally, they're ready, they can't just say it , although some politicians are already there they are imagining a war with china , with russia, but there is awareness, i think that the special services will be, well, they will be ready to at least reject the maximum number of such attacks, since we have night air. a little time, it is possible to go into some kind of philosophical concept, but your opinion on this matter is just interesting, because democracy arose in the 7th century bc in greece and

primarily provided for the principle of change of power there according to its own back then, as now it seems strange such mechanisms, but it all worked, then the concept democracy expanded, and both the creators of democracy and its preachers understood the importance of freedom of speech in democratic societies, because freedom of speech ensured that people ... who make decisions, including the selection of certain politicians, make them on the basis of various information, that is, they get the opinions of various experts, and this allows them to make a more balanced choice, and in principle, before the beginning, i would even say that in the 21st century, for democracy with freedom of speech, everything was not ideal, but normal. but the appearance of social networks and the rapid spread of access to the internet changed everything dramatically, and in my opinion, now this power of freedom of speech, which is turned against it by authoritarian regimes against democracy itself, because they are shaking it,

through bots, through propaganda, through where.. .information using freedom of speech as a tool to corrode, to erode these democratic societies. and in your opinion, in connection with what you think is the freedom of speech, what will happen to it, that is, it should be limited, you can mark the channels, you can write state propaganda there or sponsored by the russian state and so on, that is, the work of the media is paid for by some state, but what to do with bots, what to do with twitter, with facebook and so on, with all this that destroys, destroys democracy because of the destruction of freedom of speech, well, you know, i will be here by myself somewhere contradicting myself, at certain stages of history, you have to play this game together, so if the enemy uses the advantages of democracy conditionally, then democracy must be ready

to use the methods of its the opponent, that is, what i am talking about, conditionally we take telegram, yes, where are the servers, who made it, why everything is fine there and they drove all the opposition, rhetoric of the russian federation there, well, because it is easier to control them in one place, when everyone is , this is my subjective opinion, and that is why certain methods have already been applied in ukraine, i remember the howl in the swamps when classmates were banned, when vkontakte was banned, and then there was a cry, well, not so much - very much, yes, but it is effective, it turned a lot of people away from the same russian myra, because i remember that my classmates were like that on the eve of the 14th year, it was trouble, trouble, because i was just like, even knowing that i needed it for work, i got out of there, because there was schizophrenia and all, and then it turned into an eye in the springs and so on, so the democratic world must be ready for the fact that it can prohibit,

prohibit certain segments, prohibit in this social network, for example, certain actions. yes, yes, this is an attack, but it won’t work in any other way, maybe i can’t do the mechanisms yet, to voice, or work out, this is your vision, simple, but, well, we have to use the effective methods of our opponents, because it will not work out in any other way, if one plays honestly, well, if we translate into boxing, one honestly does not hit lower belt, he has gloves just as they are, and the other one just went there, filled with iron, and took it. in the hands of a crowbar, he still hits anywhere, so perhaps the rules must be changed somehow , or this boxer, who works miracles, should be disqualified, but we see, look, china has defended itself, russia is also defending, i am not in favor of we closed down, just so that there were mechanisms of influence on these structures, such as facebook , yes, because we see, for example, how

the accounts of ukrainian users are simply suspended, well , i have personal experience, the first two accounts of dmytro lev were suspended in one night and no, and that we did not write in good english, that it was our content that was taken out and forgotten about it, and why, because there was anti-russian rhetoric, and how in this mechanism, we achieved that facebook was also there, but and that he was not a weapon against those or others people, well, these questions are philosophical, so that there are no such simple as unequivocal answers to them, but really this threat to the democratic world exists and our enemies, and when i say our, i mean the enemies of democracy and freedom are already using this our vulnerability at full throttle and we must of course look for a countermeasure, because because we have to stay, let's say so, and autocracy

is not free regimes, dictatorships, they are doomed to die sooner or later it will happen. oleg lisny, a political scientist, was a guest of our broadcast hour. thank you for joining us at night, and friends, let us remind you that today russia committed another terrorist act against the civilian population, russia struck kharkiv, we know of six dead and 14 people were hospitalized, struck the terminal of the new post office, and currently , the organization announced mourning for the dead colleagues, at the time of the attack on the terminal near kharkov, the press service of the company noted that the employees had no chance to run to the shelter in time, because, i quote: the sirens sounded seconds before. end of quote. next, on our broadcast, news from marina kuhar, after which the broadcast will continue.