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to nominate the prime minister, well, we understand that the president will do it, but without the assistance of the newly elected polish parliament, you understand. that the situation may be complicated and, accordingly, i would like to ask you what a large staff turnover will look like now, yes , because we understand, the executive power, this is extremely important, and it is unlikely that president andrzej duda will transfer huge powers to his hands, so say great opponents. the executive committee of the civic platform instructed donald tusk to form the government. and put him forward on the position of prime minister, well, two other political parties or political coalitions, the libyans and the third way, they said that because of the victory in the framework of the opposition trumpet of the civil coalition,
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it should nominate a candidate for prime minister -minister and that candidate will be donald tusk, the president of duda, well, of course he can. it is hypothetical, when we speak , to nominate someone for the post of prime minister, but he must receive his approval, i.e. a vote of confidence, in the parliament, without the parliament, thank god, there is nothing in poland happens because poland is a parliamentary republic, not even a parliamentary-presidential one, but a parliamentary republic, the position of the prime minister in the constitutional system of poland is very strong, it is essentially called a chancellor system like the german one. system, so that the position of the prime minister is actually enormous, he has all the executive power in the country, now regarding the political calendar, it must be said that the president has 30 days according to the constitution
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to convene the first meeting of the newly elected the parliament, the parliament is already bicameral, and then the president assigns some political party to perform the function of the prime minister, and he has 14 days to gain the vote of confidence in the parliament, in fact in the diet, in the lower the lower house, the only problem that can be here is that the president wants to say that he is not interested in the opinion of the political forces of the opposition, but next week allendej duda invited the representatives of all the political forces that came to the diet to him, ugh, this five political forces and will talk with them in turn about well political configuration, and the three political forces will come with a unanimous decision that their candidate for the position, they, otherwise,
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they signed a coalition agreement, they have 200 there, 48 mandates in the diet and their candidate for the position of prime minister is donald tusk . and now. i can imagine that andrzej duda will start talking, and i don't like it, or something, and we have the winner of the election, president andrzej duda will say, law and justice will consult with yaroslav kaczynski, well, i am also considering such a hypothetical scenario and after that, they will try to form a coalition based on law and justice, but even with the votes of the confederation, they will not be able to create the majority necessary to form a government, and if, for example, such an idea as to block the coalition of the opposition nomination from the citizen platform of the prime minister and proceed to elections new early elections. is this scenario even real? no, the same as the scenario, too, the nomination of another candidate,
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like donald tusk, i think, he, well, his probability will be somewhere, well, use it about 10 percent, no more, the probability. that president duda will appoint, nominate some other politician as prime minister, like donald tusk, because donald tusk has said that he is already going to leave. to brussels to talk about unlocking 30 billion euros from the economic recovery fund after covid-19, as it is officially called, the european union created a huge fund, 30 billion of which was reserved for poland. the pis government managed not to use those large funds, which are insane funds for the polish economy, the whole the economy is waiting for this money, it is only... and it is only about the observance of the rule of law, that these new ruling coalitions will be
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very easy, because the slogans, precisely the attraction of the rule of law, were one of the main ones during the election campaign, that is, tusk, without waiting to see if he will be appointed or nominated by the president to the position of prime minister, simply goes to brussels to resolve the issue, will meet there with the leaders of the european union, talk with them, return to the country and say: people good people, we are already doing our job, and why does the president not want to recognize the reality that more than 11 million poles voted for the opposition during an unprecedentedly high turnout in the parliamentary elections, well , you yourself know that andrzej duda has been the president for eight years and we have a very bad opinion of him, so the game is very weak ... weak cards for the president, but realistically, when the president does not behave like a head
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of state, but instead as a political functionary of law and justice, he will only lose, well, but still certain there is a danger of this, and i would really like to see poland destabilized, let's hope that everything will go according to a normal civilized scenario, well, on the other hand, sometimes i remember jarosław kaczynski, his rather sharp and sharp statements, and i understand that jarosław kaczynski will not give up either without a political battle, yes, well, the key task is not to lose power completely, to try to hold early re-elections, there is no need to scare our viewers beyond measure with scenarios whose probability is less than zero, that is, it will not happen, because the constitution provides for three, steps the so-called formation of the government, and after the fiasco of those three steps, as soon as the president can.
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to dissolve the parliament, but this involves the continuation of this scenario for 90 days, opposition politicians and opposition figures were afraid that jarosław kaczyński could bring the troops to defend his power on the streets of warsaw and so on, no one saw a single soldier being withdrawn and he did not will be brought out, i will tell you more today that today one of the sensations of the day in warsaw was the statement of the advisor, president andrzej dude, who, when asked whether yaroslav kaczyński should go on political retirement, he answered, yaroslav kaczyński should go on political retirement, that is, from temporarily withdrawing the troops to the streets of warsaw, to the fact that the adviser to the president says that yaroslav kaczyński should go on political retirement, well, this is a galactic distance , and it was passed within four days after the election, why? and a very simple matter, the turnout is 74%. in warsaw , the voter turnout was 85%. well, anton, we
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know that these are almost, these are cosmic indicators. myroslav, i wanted to ask you about donald tuska and the ukrainian issue, in particular, how actively he will work, well , donald tuks is not just a polish politician, not just the leader of the opposition civil platform at the moment. donald tusk is a continental politician, the prime minister of poland, donald tusk will be... one of the key politicians of the european union, european politicians, it is undeniable, his vast experience, as the prime minister of poland and the president of the european council, as well as the european, european people's party, let's not forget that he was the head of the largest of the european party, colossal, and he did something that, well, political chronicles , i don't know, there is a degp, he seems to have returned to his country to... positions, donald tusk could actually be a political pensioner, because in
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life he was , so higher, well, i don’t know there yet, the position of the secretary general of the un or the secretary general of nato, well, you can think so, but he returned to poland to build polish democracy, and he returned to the position of prime minister, because i have no doubt that that he will be prime minister and this is a huge, huge experience for european politics, and secondly... in europe , he is hailed as a harbinger of the spring of european democracy, that is, he showed that a country as big as poland, which... aside, well, semi-authoritarianism, but a departure from liberal democracy, that's for sure, it can turn towards european, towards liberal democracy , and thanks to which, well, thanks to the fact that a huge civil society was mobilized, let's not forget that two weeks before the elections, a million people marched through warsaw, through the streets of warsaw, i.e. the capital,
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secondly, it is this unprecedented turnout, that is, the legitimacy of tusk as a politician, a democratic politician, a european... politics is huge, and now we turn to the ukrainian, well, the map, the ukrainian map of donald tusk, it is known, it is very strong, and well, remember during the revolution of dignity, his help to ukraine at the beginning of the war, as well as russian-ukrainian, just as huge help as the prime minister, i remember how donald tusk toured all the european capitals, during the maidan and at the beginning, reported that. this is war seriously, harsh methods must be used against putin, and at the time when donald trump was the president of the united states of america, donald tusk was the head of the european council, who strongly supported ukraine, but we remember his famous speech in 2018, in the walls of the verkhovna rada , which he pronounced in ukrainian, he firmly said that
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ukraine's place in the european union, donald tusk is a friend of ukraine, it is an indisputable friend. of ukraine and this is what petro poroshenko, the former president of ukraine, wrote in his statement it's true when i said that donald tusk always put his shoulder to ukraine, and i have no doubt that it will be the same now, but a little bit of criticism should be said towards president zelenskyi and ukrainian diplomacy. ukrainian diplomacy, well, taking into account the internal situation in poland and the specifics, let's put it this way, rights and justice and their introduction of foreign policy and essentially imposed an embargo on contacts with donald tusk and the polish opposition, and it was very bad, i believe that it was wrong, it's in poland remembered, let's say so, and i would very much like, and i hope that donald tusk will too, because that is how he is being answered in poland, in the media, in particular, for
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him to make one of the first visits to kyiv to show that in ukrainian, the situation is changing and we are returning to the good old days, after all, two weeks before the elections, donald tusk convened a meeting specially with the participation of military experts and foreign policy experts, from the foreign policy of politicians, and also presented his vision of ukrainian flight in policy regarding ukraine. oh yes, from this moment on i will ask myroslava in a little more detail what kind of policy it will be, on the one hand, tusk has to solve one... one story: the legacy, so to speak, of relations with berlin and brussels, which deteriorated during the last political cycle, on the other hand, we understand that they need to do something with orban, who was often frowned upon by the polish right, here donald tusk during this meeting, when he gave his speech, he clearly said that support for ukraine is a matter of
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poland's security, and unconditional support of ukraine and in the military plan, in the flight... plan, in the economic plan and in helping refugees, that the conditions of stay of ukrainian refugees on the territory of poland will not change, the same will be supported in the military plan, we remember the statements of the prime minister , interrogated marovytsy, who said that poland was stopping military aid to ukraine, ukraine, then they denied it, but the sediment remained, so tusk very harshly, clearly stated that the aid will continue, and there is no doubt about it, and i have no reason to no doubt that it is so will be, and now, we promised not to scare our tv viewers with polish affairs, let's scare them a little with affairs in the middle east, we understand that the situation can be critical, it's not for nothing that the united states has directed its flagship ship now, yes to two aircraft carrier groups, unprecedented tension, very it is difficult to say how it will unfold and
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whether it will unfold, in general it is about the so-called ground operation of the troops of the state of israel in the gas sector, but the stakes are extremely high, your forecasts and your foreboding, we really stand on the threshold the third world war. oh, that is, with the third world war, we are constantly scared by everyone, i think that no, there will not be a third world war, instead, what may break out, a conflict in the middle east, which will be very difficult to stop, yes, for sure, and all the activity of the americans, in particular... the arrival of president biden was dedicated to this unconditional support for the right of israel to defend itself and to defend, uh, and to destroy hamas, this is very, this is very, important the second point, that hamas must be destroyed, instead the third point , and here i think that
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prime minister netanyahu received a very strong message from president biden that if you don't have a plan to exit the gaza strip, then you don't need to enter it, because the occupation of gaza will end very sadly for israel, not... this, that from a military point of view, no, they are not capable, but israel has already occupied this territory once and it ended with withdrawal from the gas sector, we also understand that the main problem today is not so much gas, although that is of course and the destruction of hamas remains the goals of the military operations number one, political is to prevent the emergence of a second front in the north, that is, hezbollah and lebanon and, accordingly, syria. in the same way, so that there is no intervention of iran in the war with israel, that is, the stakes have been raised very high, and the presence of american
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aircraft carriers, and the presence of american marines, should once again be a warning to iran, so that it does not even try to enter, because it will deal with america, and no one will help iran in this, nor will protect iran, i hope that all these steps that have been taken and are still being taken, they are dealing with, of course, before the arrival of the president, there was a provocation from, because i expect it to be accidental, not accidental, but it played so well that the president could not go to jordan to meet with the leaders of jordan, egypt and the palestinian authority, that, well, it looks exactly like, like provocation. that there is no peaceful , peaceful process, i hope, after all, that the more emphasis there is on humanitarian missions to gaza, the more talk there is about
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preventing a second front and showing the determination of the united states, everything democratic world, we know that chancellor scholz was in israel, that the prime minister of great britain sunak is there. all these visits show the absolute one-sidedness and political line of helping israel in the democratic world, along with the fact that israel does not pass this final defense, that is , that it has a plan for leaving gaza, how will it go to this gaza, and the key issue is humanitarian the question is that people should not suffer, or how much less people should suffer, because this is basically the main thing, i liked it, you know. a very strong comment in new york
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the times mr. friedman, thomas friedman, this is their main columnist, political, and also, he, well, a specialist in the middle east, he wrote very clearly that in general, he wrote, thomas friedman, that israel should not go into the gas sector, except side of the civilized, there is also the side of iran, which is being adjusted. in its policy, not only the russian federation, but china, yes , we understand, there was at least a three-hour meeting between the russian dictator putin and the president of the people's republic of china and the head of their communist party, xi jinping, and we understand what i have drawn, i will not say whether it is an axis or a triangle, iran, beijing and the russian federation, but the key story here is the position of beijing, and we understand that it may not want to exchange. in global politics to certain local provocations that could end in a world war, full-scale
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, with ballistic nuclear missiles and so on and so on, well, full foul, so to speak, and this is the key story, how do you now evaluate the visit and the conversation between the russian dictator and the chinese leader, of course i didn't sit with them, so what i don't have inside information about their, their... conversation , instead, in turn, when it comes to china's attitude to the middle east and to the war, which is now a war, well, this is the state of the war that continues between israel and hamas, so let's talk , the thesis of commentators on international politics is very close to me, that china is definitely not interested in destabilization in another place in the world, because... china is already paying a very high economic price for russia's war in ukraine, that is, china also wants to make money, to get out of the economic crisis, because in them
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an economic crisis is looming, we are not for...' it happens that high -tech, high-tech companies are leaving china , foreign capital is leaving, moving to other places, and china has a lot to think about, after all, china has the problem of taiwan, which it considers a priority, even before of this, he is not able to take any actions in the middle east that would be active, military actions, this is clear, he can only politically strengthen some side, the side of the ... war, but the probability of meddling in it himself is zero , in my opinion, so i am close to this thesis that china is not interested in provoking the second such boiling point, regarding the conversation with putin, well, you know, they are friends, in the sense of political friends, well, on february 4, 2022, they signed a declaration of friendship
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, which knows no bounds, wanted...' world order , well, putin took up the implementation of this idea, and it didn't get any easier for xixinping, his situation is weakening in china itself, because he can't realize any of his huge dreams, china's economy has problems, goes on no ascendant, but not ascendant, and this is a real real picture, i think that xi jinping and putin talked, ways to get out of this situation, not putin swore his love for the chinese peace plan to end the war in ukraine, but there is one problem, which cannot be resolved, the first point of the chinese plan, it is not a plan , a declaration, but let's call it a peace plan, it is the inviolability of borders and the independence of states, and what should putin do with this, as he wrote in the constitution, that four ukrainian regions will already be, and already are
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the territory of the russian federation. and what? well, china tried there, you know, to talk, but in fact the dissolution of the soviet union took place illegitimately, as well as the collapse of this socialist camp and so on, then all the states of the baltic countries and all in the west of the country, and so china, then you want to review the borders and so on, and right away, a question flew in, calm down, we don’t, that’s not what we said, we... respect all all borders and so on, there is no peace plan, certainly a chinese one, china saw its limitations of its capabilities, how ally, an ally of russia, it will not supply weapons, weapons to russia, this is also very well known, because it will not go for huge sanctions from the western world, because we see the western world is very determined, it is not a bad thing that the american president said in a recent interview , to the question of whether america will succeed.
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assistance to israel and ukraine at the same time, financial weapons, and to this president biden said the following phrase, you know, which is very expensive, he said yes, that is not why we are the largest, most powerful state, not in post-war history, in the history of the world in general, for two such aids, with the help of two countries to suppress me, what does this mean, america is ready for confrontation on a global scale, and americans from today, at least today, know that there is an axis of evil that can today is emerging, it is north korea, russia and iran, and china, well, a worried, but quite friendly mokoro is watching all this, the americans understood this a long time ago, and they are ready for it, this is clear, thank you very much miroslava for this extremely interesting, just a brilliant conversation.
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i want to remind our tv viewers that myroslav cheg, a deputy of the polish diet of the second term, historian and public figure, worked for them in poland, thank you very much. the time of our program has run out, stay with espresso tv channel, my colleagues will inform you about all the most important events of the day. take care of yourself and your loved ones, see you on the air. congratulations, it's news time on our airwaves, kateryna shirokpoyas works with you. tragedy in kharkiv oblast. rescue operation at the site of the russian shelling of the novaya poshta terminal completely finished. according to the latest information from the police, at the time of the rocket
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