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oleksiy honcharenko, european solidarity. dear friends, we are currently considering an extremely important issue. we are talking about the state budget for the next year. we understand with you, today the most important thing in our country is war. but war is about resources , and financial resources are one of the key resources that we are talking about with you now about how to distribute them, and now, friends, this is really an extremely important topic, right? judging by the presence of people's deputies, they do not think so, in the session hall there is again, there aren't even 226 people's deputies, and the deputies have other things to do, again they are very busy with something, not the state budget, and this is... question, friends, number one, today,
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and we have to consider the budget with you and really to do, to carry out a very difficult task, how to build a budget so that it simultaneously gives money for the war, for the army, for the army, because it must be a budget for victory, because it must be a budget for war, sorry for the crap we saw, these drums, serials, endlessly some absurdity, which we are told, this has to be in the state budget, no, the war budget, but at the same time we have to think about the state not only one month ahead, not only one year ahead, but we have to think about the future, and if we think about the future, we cannot pay for a child 860 uah per month, 860 uah per month, how can you get a child up to 3 years old with 860 uah per month, or we have such things. generally unbelievable, when the supplementary payment
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for the care of a disabled person who is alone is 50 uah per month, 50, tell me, what is 50 uah per month today, or when it comes to wounded, discharged from the state, we are talking about the army, and these people receive 600, 700 hryvnias per month, so we have to do and fulfill an important task, on the one hand we have to give money to the army, but on the other hand we must necessarily though to allow these people to survive, because it is impossible to survive on 600 hryvnias, it is impossible to survive on 800 hryvnias a month, it is simply impossible, and all this must be supported by an economic policy that is aimed at the main thing, at the workplace, and what we see, we see, how the tax office destroys everything in a row, and we do not see it
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no economic policy from the government today, where the prime minister is at the budget presentation, yes he is supposed to be standing here to give a speech, we don't see him, friends, we are being offered a budget again, which has wrong things in it, let's fix it now, so that, please, the floor is given to people's deputy ukrainka pryhodka nataliya ihorivna, the group of deputies of the restoration group of ukraine, hnatenko, please give the floor, hnatenko, please hnatenko, good day. good afternoon, dear colleagues, without a doubt change from scratch the draft budget, which was handed over to us by the government in september, we are not able to, the circumstances and realities of the martial law dictate to us the priorities and directions that require our greatest attention. undoubtedly, the people's deputies thoroughly processed the submitted draft budget , i must note that we found an opportunity to save... almost 15 billion hryvnias
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from the state budget for inappropriate, inappropriate areas of construction and property purchase in various authorities. we also understand how important it is today to provide a resource to support our military. an additional half a billion hryvnias will be sent to the prosthetics of ukrainian defenders and this is an opportunity for many of our heroes to return to a more or less normal and fulfilling life. so. the need to pay more attention to our education and the younger generation. that is why the parliament recommends to the government to increase the educational subvention by almost 400 million hryvnias. the task of the parliament and the government is to support our partners in the world, to ensure a working and balanced budget. we work for the security first and defense sector and provide enough social assistance. economy and
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it is necessary to unite, the reconstruction of our state will come later, the deputy group for the restoration of ukraine supports the draft state budget in the first reading and hopes that the government. will take into account the parliament's proposal to process the document before the second reading. thank you for attention. thank you. the floor is given to people's deputy ivan ivanovych krulk. faction of the political party all-ukrainian association batkivshchyna. please. ivan krulko, faction batkivshchyna. we are now looking at a really major document that will define. how will it be long live the ukrainian state next year 2024, a state that has been in a full-scale war for almost two years, in a war against the russian federation, which has annexed crimea, donbas since 2014, and of course we
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must clearly understand for ourselves that this budget in principle cannot be simple and easy. i do not want. now to analyze the situation with social benefits, because in principle there is nothing to analyze, the standard of living in ukraine is falling, and this must be stated as a fact. i would not like to touch on the issue of the living wage, which is not even enough to the actual size of the subsistence minimum up to half. 38% is 2,900, which is the established subsistence minimum, and the actual size of the subsistence minimum should be 8,500, taking into account the inflation of the level of consumption. prices, but at the same time i would like to say about the things that the committee, at the insistence of the motherland faction, still managed to ensure, you know, that the parliament created a temporary investigative commission
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whose task is to resolve issues with increasing funding for treatment of our wounded, those of our boys and girls who went to war, defend the ukrainian state, were wounded and need treatment in order to return to a normal life, as far as possible, and here it is our duty as a whole country, to give the necessary medicines, which are very expensive, to give the necessary equipment, but most importantly, the funds for their treatment and for food, so that they can receive the necessary help in these hospitals. this temporary investigative commission of the verkhovna rada is headed by... the leader of our faction, yulia tymoshenko, who visited the east, the south, all the hospitals that are on the front line and saw the real picture with the provision of those hospitals and with what is needed specifically to be able to effectively treat our wounded, and i would like to say that in the budget for 2024,
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after all, the amendment that the homeland faction submitted, the cabinet of ministers has been instructed to take into account the necessary 17 billion from 17 billion in order to triple the packages for the treatment of the wounded, it is necessary to triple the packages for surgery, mine-explosion, burns, and contusions, these are all the main packages, according to which our sick people are there , our servicemen are there, i hope that by the second reading and food and treatment of the wounded will be increased in the budget, and the homeland will be, thank you, ivan ivanovich, please. the floor is given to people's deputy shtepa, serhiy serhiyovych, fraction of the servant of the people political party, you pass on, yes, please, greetings, please, good day, dear colleagues, dear ukrainians, dear presidium, mykola zadorzhny, 162
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electoral district, servant of the people faction, we are now in consideration with you, apparently the most important document for 2024 is the draft budget. in the process of discussion, in the process of submission, in the process of communication with the ministry of finance, with the government , there were a lot of proposals, there was a lot of constructive, there was also quite a lot of negativity, i would like to draw attention to the fact that very often the opposition deputies, for a big cock shouting, they very, very often lose the construct. it is, i would like to thank some colleagues who showed where to find the resource, in order to increase the revenue part of the budget, the government will
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work out, i want to thank my colleagues who submitted proposals, and who found a certain consensus that spending should be limited, this draft budget will be difficult to implement, but what the government submitted and what was worked out in the budget committee, it is realistic to implement, and it is necessary to continue working on it, i would like to draw attention to the fact that in this project... the issue of civil service is partially resolved, the salaries of civil servants are equalized, on which the burden is very heavy, first of all frontline, border regions, communities, districts, further, spending, capital spending, primarily cut for all central executive bodies, what i see in this budget is business support spending, because i want to remind everyone that we are fighting for our own income, and thanks to international partners, we are closing
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most of the social expenses, and we have to fight for our own, so about 19 billion hryvnias for business support in all areas, support for industrial parks and support for large investments - this is what our country really needs, capital expenditures for shelter, they really need to be increased in the last six months. i have done a lot of work in all the border and front-line areas, and the need is extremely high , and i thank you for taking into account and giving the government an order to work out an increase in funding, specifically shelters in secondary education institutions, colleagues, a fairly balanced and fairly compromising solution is proposed today, i ask him support, thank you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. the word is provided people's deputy mykola leonidovych skoryk is represented by the platform for life and
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peace group. people's deputy skoryk, deputy group for life and peace, dear presidium, dear colleagues, dear citizens of ukraine, speaking from this rostrum during the presentation of this draft state budget, on behalf of the group, i already spoke about the fact that we have decided to support, this . draft of the state budget, we understand all the problems that are in this draft, talk about, consider there macro indicators separately, i believe that there is no no meaning, the main problem of this budget and not only this one, i think, for many years to come, is the problem of the debt obligation, which is placed on the state of ukraine, but what the ministry of finance is doing today, i think it is quite professional, they come out of this situation as well, our
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fraction, our group, i apologize, submitted a draft, a balanced draft of amendments to the state budget, we still hope that they will be, at least partially, taken into account, they also concern social issues, payments to multi-taskers, to multi-parent families, child benefits, we submitted an amendment to increase the funding of the ministry, i apologize to the academy of medical sciences, we believe that in the draft budget we should clearly set a ceiling not only for the salaries of civil servants, but also for managers large state corporations, it would be accepted normally in society, because those multi-million wages during the war that they receive, it is perceived by people fairly, absolutely negatively. , what
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nevertheless, there are many risks in the adoption of this law, i understand that it will be voted by the verkhovna rada before the adoption of the state budget, but turning to the cabinet of ministers, this places a very large responsibility on the ministry of finance in terms of providing interbudgetary transfers to our communities, because pdf for many communities and the btf, the military is the only main budget-forming tax and there is nothing to replace it, it is the income of the first basket and under them mortgage expenses, protected expenses for health care, for education, and they, they do not in which case they cannot be reduced, and they cannot be during the war , salary debts to doctors, doctors , and teachers, therefore, when addressing the leadership of the ministry of finance,
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be very careful about the provision of interbudgetary transfers and possibly replace them with withdrawal, either laska, klymenko, yulia leninivna, faction of the voice. klymenko holots, dear colleagues, we have the budget we have because we are at war, and our budget cannot be any other than the military budget for the 24th year, all our money, we everyone must understand that all our money that our economy earns, that our country earns, through taxes, through other payments, will go exclusively to defense and security, will go to the army, will go to weapons, will go to ensure that we get victory as it is possible sooner,
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i hope, it will be in the 24th year, and the budget of the 25th year can be discussed with you here, we will discuss development programs. economic programs, where should we invest money, but in order for us to have a chance to discuss all these programs in the 25th year, we must win with you in the 24th year, for this we we need troops, for that we need our weapons of production, for that we need to direct all our efforts and money to defense and security, so this budget actually consists, it is very simple, it consists exclusively of these expenses, plus social payments, plus pension payments, all the other expenses are not actually included in this budget, so everyone has to understand that there is not going to be an easy life, and yesterday we had discussions in our committee about a large number of government agencies that have
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to live comfortably, so all these state bodies, everyone, everyone absolutely must understand that in the 24th year , no one will live comfortably, all expenses will be reduced, all state bodies must understand and reduce their expenses and to stop earning, let's say , during the war. therefore, dear colleagues, i see no other option than to vote for the budget of the 24th year, the military budget, so that in the 25th year we have debates about the budget for the economic development and development of ukraine. thank you. dear colleagues colleagues, please, bakunets, pavlo andriyovych, and this, i understand, will be the final speech, and after that there will be questions from the deputies, and then we will vote, i will ask the deputies to take their seats, please pavlo andriyovych, trust group
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, bakunet, thank you, dear mr. chairman, dear profile ministers, deputies who are present here, dear deputies, it is clear that when considering this most important document, by which our entire country will live in the next year, in the year of war, and we believe in the year our ukrainian victory, we want to first of all, while considering it, say that despite the fact that we have a full-scale war, and it is far from the first year in our country, still social... payments are made, and we thank and understand that it is not an easy task for the relevant ministry to collect all the income at a time when there is a war, to be able to talk with international partners, actually, who help us and provide funds for these social payments, but basic things,
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if, on which stands the state, which on which the budget is based on, in addition to revenues, there are expenditures, this is number one in wartime, defense expenditures, and they are the largest in this budget, it is natural that the expenditures for what we are fighting for are expenditures on our ukrainian education, these are expenditures on our medicine and the social sphere, and if we spend on education, medicine and the social sphere thanks to international donors, then it is clear that on defense, we direct expenditures from our ukrainian taxpayers, and at this time, when we are also under consideration this budget, we are forced to take this step in order to start the process of inspections for ukrainian enterprises, which will certainly stimulate an increase in revenues, revenues to the state budget, as well as revenues
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to local budgets, and accordingly, it is possible to increase the size of the educational subsidy for our teachers for the next year, it is possible will provide full financing of all medical packages so that ukrainians have the opportunity to be treated, and most importantly for veterans for rehabilitation, because we understand that these people deserve the greatest attention and the greatest care, and therefore rehabilitation should also be included in the budget for the next year , the year of the great defense, the year of the great victory of the ukrainian people, so we believe that we will pass this budget period with pride and will already consider various other articles next year. articles on the development of infrastructure, development of communities, and today we believe in the armed forces, in god and in victory, glory to ukraine , to the heroes, glory, dear colleagues, all factions,
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groups that wanted to speak, spoke, so i ask, there is no one else, who is not spoke and would not have wanted to, thank you, then let's move on, dear colleagues, please sign up for speeches by people's deputies, it will take us six minutes. that is why i am asking now to proceed to the recording, but dear colleagues, i am asking all people's deputies to take their seats, because after that we will vote on the relevant resolution, we need to get 226 votes, please, dear colleagues, vyatrovych volodymyr mykhailovych , european solidarity faction, please, volodymyr mykhailovych, please pass it on to yuzhanna petrivni, nina petrivna yuzhanina, please.
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turn on the microphone, nina petrivna, please, nina petrivna, dear colleagues, i heard here from the minister of finance and from the speakers, a lot of words that this is a difficult budget, the budget of a warring country, a budget that is aimed exclusively at the security sector . and defense. in fact, this is not true, and i do not want you to be mistaken, the more you lie to yourself, the more we create an unfair approach, an irrational waste of funds that we can operate. in fact, everyone own revenues will be directed to the security and defense sector, all other expenses will be paid at the expense of the aid of our donor countries and at the expense of... what else our government and the minister of finance personally can agree on, who, of course, makes a lot of effort for this
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, and he rightly said that there will be a point when countries, when countries are building their military budgets, we won't have the amount of money to do all the spending that you just talked about, that's a completely budgetary area , it is completely social expenses and part. provision, therefore, it is absolutely obvious that you should treat this budget, the second budget during the war, mr. minister, as in fact the budget of a critical year in the history of ukraine, in no case increase the wages of managers compared to 2023 per year plus the inflation index, under no circumstances allow development expenses again, you say that we will... talk about the development of entrepreneurship after victory, so the development of entrepreneurship for individuals is laid here. and when i was on
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to the working group in the committee, i spoke about the fact that all possible incomes were not counted, that all possible incomes were not canceled , that the managers could definitely do without, this infuriates me, i do not want to live in a country that lies to itself, to its partners, which hides the numbers in the lines so that the deriban continues. i am against your phrase, when you said, why did you take this responsibility for all the thieves, that currently there is no corruption in the country, how are you not ashamed, when we hear one message after another, what is happening at the central level, you now talk about asphalt and paving stones, but what is happening here, i don't want to talk about all the purchases that are monitored every day. which are depressing people who are interested in it, and all the social networks are abandoned by the fact that you do not feel that there is a war, so
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listen, please accept the changes that we will now talk about in the course of presenting our amendments, please pavlenko , ruslan mykolavych, i understand, will you also pass it on to nini petrivna, or iryna volodymyrivna, please, gerashchenko. dear colleagues, we really have an extremely difficult, the deeply deficit budget of the warring country is half, 50% dependent on the help of our international partners, who today basically support and sponsor our entire social sphere, our teachers, doctors, pensioners, and actually, to support this help, we have to to focus on the key real, and not facade, fight against corruption, because all the funds that are stolen by the looters, they are stolen from the ukrainian army, because all our taxes that are collected...
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within the country go exclusively to the defense sector. unfortunately, in this budget, despite that it is stated that this is the budget of a warring country , and not everything is so simple, it is written very clearly that the sector of security and defense, security and defense, and here is the word security, an increase in spending on repressive bodies is assumed. well, i guess all of you otaku got a very interesting message that we are starting the fight against corruption. corruption is an important component of victory from the dbbr, the dbbr has money to send these sms, yes the dbbr , please start with your representatives in lviv, who arrange weddings for 1 million dollars at this time, during the plague, start with yourself, and it is for this dbbr, for them to send smss, that you are putting funds in the budget for 24 years, at a time when the armed forces of ukraine are decreasing by 6%. funding in
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the year 24, this is unacceptable. i want to remind you that president zelenskyi began his presidential career with an important promise to fight the oligarchs. what do you put in the second budget of a warring country? financing oligarchic channels? 2 billion uah are going to the marathon, the marathon, in which today there are 1.1, which belongs to the medvedchuk family and other oligarchs, other channels, which belong to... the oligarchs, the oligarchs have run out of money, at the time when you put in the budget for them, a reduction in rent payments today, and other expenses, so our amendments, which european solidarity will insist on, is to redirect 2 billion hryvnias from nobody needs a marathon, from the oligarchic channels to the armed forces of ukraine, you bet 170 million on the rada channel, which does not show the parliament, you
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know that for... the salary of the director of the rada tv channel is more than that of the deputies and the speaker, it is uah 94,000 per month, salary the director of the rada tv channel, and for this you will now vote, please excuse this , more than the soldiers on the front line, this is not normal, that is why our team demands to reduce these funds, to take funds from the rada channel, which does not show the parliament, and you are for this, dear colleagues. the discussion in the first reading of the draft law of ukraine on the state budget for 2024 has been completed. dear friends, let's move on to making a decision. i ask people's deputies to prepare for voting. please take your seats, we are preparing for voting. dear colleagues, the state budget is a sacred duty of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. therefore, let's do everything in order to pass it.
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and the country has received an estimate for the next year, please, dear people's deputies, take your seats, take your seats, halyna mykolaivna, take your seats, dear colleagues, in accordance with article 157 of the verkhovna rada regulations, i am putting to a vote for acceptance as a basis prepared by the committee on budget issues, draft resolution, registration number: pp on conclusions and proposals to the draft law of ukraine on the state budget of ukraine for 2024, dear colleagues, are you ready to vote? i ask people's deputies to vote.
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for 254, the decision has been made, by factions, please show, dear colleagues, whether the people's deputies will insist on voting on the proposals, or we can immediately , yes, there are people's deputies who want to, dear colleagues, well, let's sit, let's sit, because our task is to make this budget the most perfect, therefore, dear colleagues, we will proceed as we always do with you and proceed, please, dear colleagues, let's begin, tymoshenko, the first amendment insists, dear colleagues, i do not see.

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