[000:00:00;00] poses a threat to local residents as well, because saboteurs, in addition to exposing the locations of the defense forces of ukraine, can, and this has been said before, open fire on various means of transport that move to the border areas, without distinguishing whether they are military, are they civilians, and if we compare the activities of the russian drgs from the first months of the large-scale war to now, have such cases decreased, well, on the contrary, when the enemy was pushed beyond the borders of ukrainian territory, within the boundaries of chernihiv oblast, sumy oblast, in later in kharkiv oblast, uh , there was no significant activity of saboteurs, in the future, when it was already possible, the enemy had recovered from what he inflicted, what losses he inflicted, what

actions the armed forces took. of ukraine and the defense forces, in general, they began to use subversive and intelligence groups, but if we consider certain periods, their activity may be significantly less for some time, in certain periods they use saboteurs more, and i can say that earlier the enemy was also more active used sabotage and intelligence groups and groups and chernihiv oblast, but in the future we see that, after all, the activity of enemy drgs is now more in the direction of sumy. that is, if we talk about the context of the situation on the belarusian border, it has changed there recently, is the drg fixed there? well, the situation on the border with belarus is significantly different, there we do not record the work of subversive and intelligence groups, in general, nothing

happens from there on the other side of the border. shelling on the territory of ukraine, as openly as it is done on the border with russia, there is no record of movement near our border, neither military equipment, nor personnel, any units, whether they are units of the belarusian army or russian units, besides, we have already talked about the fact that some time ago, russia actually withdrew all its units that were on territory of belarus. of course, there is still a certain contingent there, but these are more service personnel, in terms of equipment and, and other components of logistics, at the same time, the units that were regularly trained at belarusian training grounds are now gone, in as part of the rotation, russia has not yet established new ones, perhaps they do not have enough free units that they can use

for this , there is still a small number of russian mercenaries on the territory of belarus, according to our data, it is less than a thousand people, but they are more involved as instructors participating in the training of units of the belarusian army, and actually, the situation in general on the border, it is fully controlled by the units of the state border service, other components of the defense forces, and there are posts... work is being carried out on engineering fortifications directly along the border line, and this is what the situation allows us to do , the fortification runs from volyn to chernihiv region along its entire length, especially the most threatening directions are strengthened in addition to the engineering elements that are installed directly

on the border line, yes. units of the armed forces of ukraine mine the terrain in order to make it impossible to make it impossible to make it impossible for heavy equipment to pass, well, of course, the border itself is also being strengthened so that all defense forces reinforcing this direction as well had the ability to react and counter any actions if the enemy again used this direction for a second invasion. i thank you, mr. andrii. what was told about the situation on the ukrainian-russian and ukrainian-belarusian border, andriy demchenko, spokesman of the state border guard service of ukraine, was a guest of our broadcast. you are watching svoboda ranok, my name is kateryna nekrecha, later in this issue we will talk about such topics. in the estonian survey they say that russia still has about 4 million artillery shells, which is a lot, and for how long will it be enough to wage war against ukraine, and we are talking about this today in broadcasts with

an expert. we also assess the military potential of russia and ukraine in general. the us pressured israel to postpone the ground invasion of the gaza strip in order to free more hostages and provide humanitarian aid to the population. this is reported by cnn. two days ago , 20 humanitarian trucks drove to gaza, but after that, the border was closed. what a humanitarian the current situation in gaza, when it is planned to evacuate ukrainian citizens from there and what it depends on, we are talking with the ambassador of ukraine to the state of israel. join our issue, you can ask your questions in the comments under this stream on the radio liberty channel. in general. russia has about 4 million artillery munitions, and this will allow the kremlin to wage war for a year, provided that the intensity of shelling is low, this statement was made by the head of estonian intelligence, ans kiveselge, and this is reported by the news portal of the estonian national television.

in addition, according to him, the additional supply of 350,000 shells from north korea indicates that russia plans to continue the war against ukraine for a long time. when used about ten. shells per day, only the mentioned batch of shells from north korea will last more than a month. the main goal of the russian troops, now probably is to return the initiative, to achieve this - say the estonian intelligence, the russian army wants to block ukrainian armed units and deprive the armed forces of their offensive potential. russian troops continued to carry out more powerful attacks in the north-east of ukraine in two main directions, namely avdiyivka maryinka and kupyansk lyman. in the last 10 days, the chief intelligence officer of estonia notes, an average of 76 attacks per day were recorded there, compared to 20 to 40 such attacks per day during the summer and september. i will remind you that on october 13 , the spokesman for the national security council of the white house,

john kirbyem told reporters that north korea had transferred more than 1,000 containers of military equipment and ammunition to russia. the white house released a series of satellite photos showing the transfer of military cargo from north korea to a russian- flagged ship. according to washington, this happened between september 7 and october 1. and during the visit of the leader of north korea to moscow in september, the supply of weapons from the dprk to russia was also confirmed by the head of ukrainian intelligence, kyrylo budanov. moscow did not comment on the report on the supply of weapons from the dprk. oleg katkov, editor-in-chief of defenspress, joins our broadcast. i salute you, sir olezhe good afternoon, thank you for the invitation. thank you for participating, before asking a question, i would like to give a little general context, the secretary of the national security and defense council serhii danilov says that the war in the middle east, not oleksiy danilov, i apologize, the war in the middle east is not the last,

which we will observe in the world, further, i quote him, he says, a lot will now depend on how quickly it will be possible to put an end to this issue, so that it does not spread throughout the world, but the financial times wrote, we we know that american arms manufacturers are preparing to speed up the supply of arms to israel, ukraine still needs it, and the pentagon's stockpiles still need to be replenished. since october 7 , the question has been raised, will the western partners, in particular the usa, have enough weapons to support ukraine and israel, what do you say? it really depends on how this war will unfold. the fact is that now , despite the fact that 360,000 reservists are mobilized in israel, this is a huge number of personnel, this, if translated simply to the realities of ukraine, if the armed forces ukraine had the same system. that is, on the basis of reservists, this would mean that as of february 26, 2023-22, the armed forces of ukraine will increase to 15 million from 2000, this, if according to the same proportions relative to

the population, well, of course, these are such ephemeral things , but just to give you an idea of ​​what 360,000 mobilized reservists means to an israel of nine million, then it depends on how the war develops, at the moment we have... another situation where a long-range strike, usually by air, with this just related boing's statement regarding the acceleration of commercial contracts, i.e. it's not about helping israel, it's commercial contracts, i.e. israel signed contracts with boeing several years ago to mark things like sdb precision munitions and jadam, and now the usual ones, that is, those that are free -falling without planning ammunition, and just so was in the final stages of the execution of this contract, but accelerates in order to , well, quickly transfer that, and in fact it is more positive, because if boeing accelerates something, it means that it expands its production capacity, and it will also

be positive for ukraine, it is another matter if this war becomes long and protracted, in particular , it is known, well, there is such information that israel has appealed to the usa and asked to return some, not all, of the ammunition that the usa placed in israel itself, and removed in order to transfer to ukraine, its own american ammunition, which was simply located in israel in order to... so that there was a certain reserve in case of need, and according to the data western countries, in the winter 300,000 155 mm artillery munitions belonging to the us army and handed over to ukraine were exported from israel, but israel has asked to return them, there is no exact figure, but tens of thousands appear, well, hundreds of thousands were handed over , they are asking to return tens of thousands, various things, that is, not even... but it is also necessary to understand that if this war is

full-scale and it is not separated by the gas sector, then this is one security situation in a military one, yes, that is, one, well, volume war let's say this, for sure, it's another matter when a war on several fronts starts, for example, due to the intensification and the start of ground hostilities against the khishbla in the north, an even more negative scenario when there is a direct intervention by iran, and not through its proxies, this means the fact that more weapons will be needed, and more land weapons will be needed, but if you take it that way, then the first thing we should talk about is precisely artillery ammunition, because they are currently in short supply in the world, in principle, there is not enough production capacity, because they are 30 years old were reduced in a row, and so it is, well, in such a scenario, to the extreme negative, against which now, well, obviously, the usa, specifically so that the conflict, the war does not become full-scale,

on many fronts, is deploying the second aviation strike group in the mediterranean sea specifically for this purpose , transfers aviation, there are additional forces, in principle, to this theater of military operations, specifically the usa, well, to prevent such, well, the deployment of a truly full-scale war. at the same time, so that the whole land operation will be limited only to the gas sector, then objectively - well, none there are additional things, there is aid from the usa in a huge amount , so that it competes with aid for ukraine, well, it is unlikely that there will be, that is, after all, not the volumes, not the size of the war, which can be, if everything will really be limited to the gas sector, really the operation will be in principle, about the artillery they say in estonian intelligence that russia has a stockpile of about 4 million artillery shells, but this amount may be enough for her for a year to launch a war of relatively low intensity, where will russia

replenish the stocks whether from north korea and which ones here the forecasts can be, well, if all the ammunition factories that are in the russian federation and work in a closed cycle, stop, well, for various reasons, that is, we must not forget, when we evaluate the reserves of the armed forces of the russian federation in relation to artillery ammunition, that in they have their own production. and you have to be honest with yourself, don't put on any rose-colored glasses, but understand that it works in a closed cycle, first, second, it is quite large-scale and third, they really, well, objectively, they do it, they scale this production , yes, it's pretty hard to estimate how much ammo they're producing because there's a static they've been announcing, specifically if so, the last time they lit there was in 13 .

but in the concept of munitions, they are artillery munitions, they include all artillery munitions that begin with 20 mm, that is, a 23 mm projectile is already a projectile, and a 152mm projectile is also a projectile, and they announced these numbers, there are many materials of varying degrees of competence relative to the real assessment of production possibilities of artillery projectiles in caliber. there is 120th mines, 122nd projectiles, 152nd artillery projectiles, the same guided rockets for rocket fire, but more than that, well, in my opinion, it is a pile to the sky, one must understand that - if the russian federation has already gone there to the dprk with an attempt to gather there projectiles, there is unconfirmed information about the fact that iran transferred unguided rocket missiles to harady, it is not necessary, well, of course everything is fine there,

but to talk about the fact that in a year the russian federation will run out of ammunition there, well, it is more than optimistic, they have their own production, and there is sources, and in the end, the most threatening scenario is the chinese factor, through which the dprk can supply ammunition to the russian federation, and with marking at the request of the customer, that is, a situation that cannot be ruled out, it is not confirmed, it is just an exclusively theoretical possibility that china will start producing ammunition for the russian federation with the marking of some factory there in nizhny novgorod. mr. lelezh, what about the ukrainian capacities, it is meant that what western partners can do to help here, for example, we know that in germany scholz still does not dare to transfer the taurus to ukraine, although the usa has already given the attack, and the usa seems to be a reference point for europe in this matter, we have always understood this, so will ukrainian capabilities on the battlefield in the long run be enough to oppose russia? i

would not like to discuss the capabilities of the ukrainian defense-industrial complex, due to the fact that each of its enterprises is under target fire. the enemy, well, to remind here, even through, i understand that it is unlikely that there will be anyone from russian specialists to analyze something else, but all the more so, well, i just don’t want to, because first of all there is an information ban on this , but you have to understand what is happening in the world regarding the production of 155th ammunition, the usa, their production is being deployed, this process will take several more years, so they are ahead of schedule, but... well, let's say this, it differs from the large amount , let's say this, in europe there is even less, that is, there, for example, france wants to leave, if i'm not mistaken, there are thousands of indicators, 3,000 ammunition for month, that is, this france,

for example, of opportunities relative to production precisely the ammunition in the usa and europe, while they are in the state that they are being deployed, this flywheel, it is quite difficult to unfurl due to the fact that for 30 years in a row it has been in a state of inhibition, that is, the cold war has ended, the need for artillery ammunition is already such there is no number, because the question is trivial, why france produces so little of the same ammunition, because they have the number of 155 mm hummingbird artillery, that is about 70 caesars, 70 self-propelled artillery installations caesar, that’s all, this is all the artillery of france in caliber 10. germany , there are about 120 sau pzz 2000, all 120, sao pzz 2000 in 155 mm caliber, this is the entire artillery of the bundessphere in this caliber, the pace of ammunition production depended on this, their

quantity, in principle, and it is clear that, well, if there is no such quantity, i don't need so many shells, we need so many shells, no need to keep producing them, because again, relative to the... defense industry in the west, as in any market industry, these rules are the same, there is no need, no production, everything right now, so this flywheel is very difficult to spin, but given that the us is investing billions in manufacturing, similar billions are being invested in europe in manufacturing, this flywheel is already spinning and it will spin, and it will reach a level where all the needs are calm down the actual current production of ammunition in the event of a war in ukraine of such intensity, in the event of a full-scale war in israel, one should not forget about the risks of a full-scale conflict, a full-scale war now in

every part of the world, because the impunity of the russian federation encourages other countries that have dictatorial regimes, totalitarian regimes , to solve their problems in a similar way, because the west, because the civilized world at one time simply gave the russian federation a hand and that is why we are talking about the possibility of china's operation against taiwan, we must not forget about the constant tension in the ladakh region between india and china, at the same time, about any other possibilities, something will be unclear there now in africa, everything else, that is, the number of potential foci of war, it is constantly increasing, every war means an increase in the cost of weapons, because there will be a shortage of it again, there is already a shortage, but it will be caught up, you see, what we started with, what alexei... says about that radio svoboda viewer vitaly portnikov in our podcasts also says that conflicts are breaking out, the further they go, the more they will be, well , we will follow it, i thank you, mr. oleg for the detailed analysis, oleg katkov, editor-in-chief of defense express was a guest

of our broadcast. next, we will talk about the following important topics, join in the comments, comment, ask your questions to the speakers of our broadcast, our communication with you is important. eu foreign ministers will discuss support for ukraine and the situation in the middle east today in brussels. in particular , the meeting will look for ways to prevent the regional escalation of the conflict in the middle east. as for ukraine, they will decide exactly what obligations the eu will undertake regarding the security of the west. this is reported by the german agency. meanwhile, the second column of trucks from humanitarian aid for residents of the gaza strip crossed the rafah border. this is reported by gen. reuters, referring to the director of communications of the un middle east agency for refugee assistance and the organization of gas works in juliet touma, according to reuters, on sunday evening from the egyptian side to the strip. 14 trucks left the gas station, earlier on saturday the first 20 trucks with food, water, medicine from the united nations and

the egyptian red crescent arrived at the gas station, the un says that this is little help for the residents gas, because to meet their needs for food, water and medicine, a hundred such trucks should be sent every day. i would like to point out that a few hours before the passage of the second convoy of humanitarian aid, several egyptian soldiers in rafas received minor shrapnel wounds from israeli tank fire. this was reported in the army of egypt. tsehal said that it happened by mistake and they will investigate the incident. today, the israeli army continued shelling hamas targets in gaza and hit ulivanni. it is reported times of israel edition. and they refer to tzahal. the message states that dozens of objects related to the mentioned organizations were destroyed. i note that according to the data of security agencies. health of the gaza strip on october 7, after the hamas attack on israel, more than 4,650 residents of gaza died,

israel's losses amounted to 1,400 killed citizens, and 212 israelis were previously held hostage by hamas. let me remind you that israel declared war on the islamist group, recognized as a terrorist group by the eu and the usa, the day after hamas militants on october 7 breached israel's fortified border and gaza, now israel is preparing a large-scale ground operation in gas. yevhen korniychuk, ambassador of ukraine to the state of israel, joins our broadcast. mr. yevgeny, congratulations, thank you for joining. good morning. we know that trucks with water and food were sent to the gas station, here is the contact of our editorial office in the gas station, a citizen of ukraine named abunad, who is there with his wife and children, also a citizen of ukraine, wrote to us that, i quote, water tents for refugees have arrived and body bags, big problems with drinking water and bread, or for bread are huge, every day it is a struggle for survival, and all this is under constant bombardment, according to your information,

tell me what is the current humanitarian situation in gaza, what are the citizens of ukraine reporting about? there are quite a lot of citizens of ukraine in gaza, i cannot name the exact number, since 337 citizens have already volunteered for evacuation today, and i have just heard from our representative. in palestine informed that one more family and a sixth person are drawing up documents, but i think that no less, well, probably more than half a thousand of our citizens are there, no everyone volunteered to leave, for known reasons , some have elderly parents there, some have relatives whom they cannot leave, that is why the situation is very difficult, unfortunately, we are completely powerless here, how can the embassy do anything for the dopo apart from forming all lists, hand them over to the israeli-egyptian side for agreement and honestly

wait for the evacuation, we are in contact with our european colleagues in this sense, we undertook to help the moldovans who turned to us, we already had such experience in the 21st year , we then they took out more than 20 citizens of moldova, now we are talking about 50, here are the bulgarians, we are messing with the poles, that is, we hope that one day , maybe even tomorrow, the rafah checkpoint will be opened for foreign citizens, why are the hamasites in no hurry, it is clear that they are imagining a miracle, that immediately after they release the foreigners, a ground operation will begin, so they are looking for various reasons why not to do this, well, now they have traded a humanitarian, the israelis are very unhappy about this, they say... how can we provide the terrorists who are killing us food and

and drinking water and medicine, well, not understanding that there are a lot of gray people there, but then again, this whole war did not happen on the initiative of israel, unfortunately, so it seems very difficult to talk about who is right, these situations there is already a post about the fact that during two weeks of war in the gaza strip... more children died than in two years, or 20 months of war in ukraine, i saw such a post, that is, palestinian or arab propaganda works very effectively , and unfortunately, unfortunately, the situation remains very, very difficult, regarding, in terms of coordination, once again, i think that the visit of antonio guterres, unsc, and the visit of the president of the united states to egypt and to israel, they brought the exchange, the exchange or the withdrawal

of foreigners from the gas sector closer, i think it will happen closer. so you said, as i understood from your words, that it is hamas that is slowing down the process of withdrawing citizens of other states to the gas sector, that the usa put pressure on israel to open, postpone, or rather a ground invasion of the gas sector, in order to release more hostages and provide humanitarian aid to the population of gaza, reports cnn. here in your opinion, on whom does it depend, or on a complex of all these factors that come before the evacuation of foreign...' citizens, and on whom, perhaps, does it depend more? i think the key players here are egypt and qatar, who have a direct connection with hamas and are coordinating with them, and we should be doing more to push them to take these actions, but you see that the higher political the leadership of the state, and all international, heads of international

organizations, heads of the united states, the european union all separately communicated with by president alelsa in egypt, everyone is in contact and everyone is trying to coordinate to get the citizens out, tens of thousands of them now, they are all compactly located in the south of the gaza strip, not far from rafah, we are in constant contact with our initiative group , they are accordingly coordinated by the initiative groups of those countries that i named for providing my joint... and i think that in the near future something will still happen, and it will happen in your opinion, in the volumes that are needed , or will ukraine be able to evacuate all its citizens there, in your opinion, if there are no provocations during the evacuation , you know, when you read the local press, sometimes you understand that there really are false shellings from the sahal side, and sometimes

there are deliberate shellings from on the part of hamas in order to accuse the idf of shelling the checkpoint, never knows what is true, what is not, you see, there is a constant information war, and therefore, since hamas is not interested in this, they will try pull as much as possible with this, on sorry, is it clear at the moment how the evacuation will technically take place, or the logistics have been thought out, maybe in how many stages it will take place, well, relatively speaking, there are buses and transport already on standby and waiting, what information do you have, we have a minute left, well yes look, in 21 year they launched representatives of foreign governments, i.e. consuls of our military, who provided consular assistance and continued passports, or issued a certificate for the return of our citizens, whose documents were lost or damaged, that is, a convoy accompanied the egyptians were brought to cairo, now the situation will probably be different, we were informed that

the egyptians themselves will take out the safe checkpoint . foreigners, and accordingly then transfer to representatives of foreign embassies. our group of diplomats and military are in egypt on a low start, i 'm being serious about this and unfortunately, it's been more than one day, so let's hope it happens safely and quickly. i thank you for participating, for informing our viewers about the progress of affairs, yevhen korniychuk, ambassador of ukraine in the state of israel, we talked about the evacuation of the gas sector. this is svoboda morning, i would like to remind you that we are with you on weekdays from 9:00 a.m. every day on youtube, on the radio liberty channel, subscribe, like and be sure to ring the bell so as not to miss important streams and also on the air of the tv channel, thank you all to you for your active participation, for your questions, comments under this broadcast, stay with radio svoboda, we are in all of them, in telegram and in all social networks, please subscribe, my name is kateryna

nekrecha, me and our entire team, we wish you have a calm day see you tomorrow, 10 o'clock on the clock, it's time to find out what is happening in ukraine and the world, at this time, khrystyna parubiy works in the studio. two people were injured. due to enemy shelling of the kharkiv region, a 39-year-old woman was injured in kurylivka, and an 81-year-old man was injured in the village for two years, oleg synigubov, the head of the region, said. during the day, the occupiers ransacked the settlements of chuguyiv and kupyan districts. two multi-apartment buildings, one private house, a kindergarten, a civil