[000:00:00;00] although it was even very strange from the very morning, it was relatively quiet for a couple of hours, and it was very strange, but in general everything is traditional, unfortunately, it has been the last year, and here we have information that wants you to comment, it inspires hope , this information on the fact that it will be possible to save the lives and health of many people, and the forced evacuation of children was announced in donetsk region and in the kherson region, in the kherson region we are talking about 30 four settlements, which settlements are we talking about, and who should carry out this evacuation, as far as people are ready, well, so am i understand, this is mainly related to those communities that are in fact under constant shelling, yes indeed, i also saw this message, earlier the evacuation of the 31st settlement was recommended, by the way, while we are talking to you, i see

a message about , which restored the light in the shelled populated areas of the beroslav district, therefore, if we talk about evacuation , it used to be 31 settlements, now it is 34, and , to be honest, residents are quite skeptical about this, because yes, first of all it is about children, about families with children, because children do not have the opportunity to live normally, just to live on... all education takes place remotely, schools do not work in the kherson region, in the traditional sense, but people are reluctant to apply for evacuation, these are mostly communities that are constantly under fire, the bereslav district, part of the kherson district, i.e. those

closest to the dnipro, but how it will pass is a mystery to me, because last time when the evacuation of 31 populated areas was announced point, there were very few people who wanted to do it directly, everything is coordinated by the regional military and administration, and the immediate executors are communities on the ground, that is, village, city, military administrations, villages and so on, how it will go, it is difficult to say, before took place, by rail transport and buses, i.e. depending on the community , they were mostly evacuated by buses, but people are reluctant to come forward, nevertheless there are contact numbers, you can always contact them and they evacuate a more or less safe community. mrs. yevheni, i i would like to ask whether the receipt or provision of humanitarian aid in the form of construction

materials for those houses that were damaged in kherson and kherson oblast after the explosion of the kakhovka hydroelectric power station continues, because i have little faith in the fact that everything has been put in order there and people can meet winter, even though it can still arrive all the time, so of course it is better to have a supply of building materials, or has this stream already dried up and some isolated, perhaps humanitarian cargoes are arriving somewhere, please, well, there are individual humanitarian missions that continue to help the command locations. or foreign? there are different ones, there is help from local councils, i.e. everything, everything is involved and focused, let’s say, on local, local councils, i.e. for any sub-materials you can turn to the local military administrations, the only question is what is there ,

mostly from the very beginning of the blasting of kakhovskaya hes. provided, materials for closing windows, er, and almost everything, windows and doors, that is , some such materials in order to restore the house was extremely not much, but there are various programs, the government program, for example, is active in the beroslav district, it is there, velyka oleksandrivka , some other communities that are more or less distant from the line of fire, they even restore houses there, we are talking about private houses, it is government. program and the so-called regional patronage program, when the regions allocate funds for the people of kherson and people who help restore houses in the communities, it is mostly about private houses, after all , only those communities that are not in the line of fire, that is, if we talk about

kherson, bereslav, tyaginka, for example, that is, the communities that under the permanent , mostly provide them with temporary help, that is, so that people can at least exist within these walls, no more, but there are different kinds of help, thank you very much, ms. yevhennia. take care, yevhennia virlych, editor-in-chief of the kherson publication kaunsi about the consequences of enemy shelling, the evacuation process , this time the forced evacuation of 34 settlements, because people simply may not survive this late autumn and the whole winter, and also about help, it's good that she somehow, but is coming now we will talk in more detail about the situation at the front, and today , as far as i understand, serhii will talk about avdiivka, serhii zgurets, director of the defense agency, host of the daily military summaries column, serhii, i did not confuse anything. according to avdiivka, absolutely not, yes, this will be one of the topics, okay , and i will ask a question, because today there were many discussions about this in social networks, some write that the russians started making drones, forgive me, evil and finger,

with self-made, motors, and they work like lawnmowers, and others say that there is nothing so funny here, the enemy releases many such drones, and no matter how they fly, they kill, so what kind of drones were discovered in kyiv? well, neutralized in kyiv, what are they from and how dangerous are they? yes, vasyl, first of all i would like to congratulate our viewers on the fact that we are starting our military program , and regarding these drones, i honestly have a double impression, first of all, back in may, such a drone was shot down, which was actually made there from plywood elements, there with plastic bottle, which was used there as a fuel tank from a cheap motor, but in any case it carried a certain amount of explosives and, as the spokesman for the air force said, yuriy egnat, about the fact that we still have to shoot down such drones , because they pose a threat, so the main challenge now, in my opinion, is to minimize the downing of such drones by using optimal

methods of destruction, primarily machine guns or other systems that do not require the use of precious missiles, this is what i think now should be done by our air force, and further on in our column i will talk about precisely those related to air defense, this is precisely about the first use, confirmed use of the hawk air defense system in ukraine, about the combat operations around avdiivka with details from our military and about new defense projects for the armed forces of ukraine. more on that in a moment. today, on the night of october 23, the enemy used 13 mortars in ukraine. one kh-59 missile and one drone of an unknown type. all these targets were shot down, and after that the commander of the air force mykola olyschuk shared a video that showed the first

use of the holk anti-aircraft missile system , which, while repelling a russian attack, shot down two air targets, either over the sea or over a reservoir, as it can be determined from this video. why is this important? now we will see in this video that the air force has finally started using the hawk mirror, this is actually the hawk that we were promised a year ago from spain and only now the fact of using this sam has been confirmed. why is this story important, primarily because on the one hand, the holk air defense system belongs to the outdated complexes, there among range, which can destroy targets with anti-aircraft missiles at a range of up to 50 km. now we see a video where these complexes are used by the army of romania, but it is still in service with 10 countries there, and

the united states has a significant stockpile of these air defense systems, and it was the most massive air defense system in nato countries, and most importantly, it has a large stockpile of missiles , almost 40,000, this means that ukraine will not have problems with missiles before this air defense system, and therefore it is just important to summarize that we we have the opportunity to strengthen our air defense at the expense of these air defense systems, i hope the issue is that the ukrainian army will receive more of these systems. and further to the front line, i will single out only one area, avdiivka. in this direction, including maryanka, which is nearby, the enemy has conducted 44 ground attacks over the past day. operations 44 attacks, i.e., in fact, half of all active actions on the front line occurred precisely on this section of the front, which was completed, the russian invaders made the first attempt at a mass offensive on october 10, then there

were also other attacks of different scales and different filling both with armored vehicles and without armored vehicles, and what is currently happening around this section of the front, we will talk with our guest, we are joined by: a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine andriy shyshuk with the call sign seyever , whose military unit is currently participating in hostilities in the avniivka area . mr. andriy, welcome to the espresso channel. now we are resuming communication, and the situation around avdiyivka remains extremely difficult, because these are two waves of mechanized assaults that took place on the 10th, then on the 19th and 20th, when in one day was destroyed, 50 tanks and up to 100 units of armored vehicles, this just showed that the enemy is trying, well, to repeat the experience, bugledar, when due to these massive

tank attacks, he tried to push through our defenses, now we see a unique video when they are trying to push one armored personnel carrier in front of the other in order to pass the minefield, but we can see the effect of the mine exploding so powerfully that all the armored personnel carriers that were in this area are torn apart, in fact , minefields, anti-tank weapons were just one of important factors in deterring the russian invasion. andriy shyshuk, with the call sign seyever, whose military unit is participating in combat operations in the avdiyivka area, is joining us now, mr. andriy, i welcome you to the spresso channel, i am glad to see and hear you, i wish you health, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, and i would like you to tell in more detail, as far as possible, what is happening now around avdiyivka, in the south, in the north, after these two waves of enemy attacks with armored vehicles, although i think that the waves of attacks are not stopping

now, look, actually , you said about two waves of attacks, these are the two most massed waves of that kind, in which there were almost uh, up to five dozen units of equipment in the columns, and there were more waves, uh, about these massed ones, well, they have already been told a lot , really massed, what i can say about them is that most of the equipment still remains in the fields, it is blown up, armored personnel carriers , bmps, armored personnel carriers - in general, for them, transport can be said to have one end, it reaches a certain point, then it is blown up and infantry simply pours out of it in the worst case, so they return, sometimes, well tanks, only tanks, because they have armor, but according to theirs.

therefore, now, according to their actions, now in recent days they have moved more to foot offensives, they already use less equipment, this is not surprising in principle, because i believe that during this time only in the direction of krasnogorka, avdiivskyi, more of their brigade has already been wiped out there , it's clear, that is, much more, the main directions are the village of stepove from krasnohorovka avdiivska and the village north of vodyanyi, there is a difference, more forces are thrown at krasnohorovka, probably due to the fact that krasnohorovka itself itself, it is more, let’s say, a large settlement, they are more entrenched there, and they have warehouses and headquarters there, i think they have everything there, and on the side of krasnohorovka, it is a very

rugged area, there are ravines, large valleys, there are small woods where you can hide and behind which you can go with vehicles , they use all this to the detriment of the poet, they use krasnogorovka more for their attacks, this is what i want to say, they are such assaults, they have such tactics, that is, to deliver to more infantry closer to our positions. they almost don't think about the fact that the equipment must return, and you understand for yourself when there are 30 units in the column, and the majority of them are infantry fighting vehicles, this infantry, then from those defeated units, it pours out, the majority of them does not understand from which side who, where to run, well, this is very sometimes , you can see, it is documented, she hides there in various plantings, under bushes,

but there are a lot of them, they try to go back for the most part, well, such a plan, there were these assaults, now the infantry already moves more with the landings that remained there, well, i think that this is not the end, mr. andriy, you say, you mentioned the landings, where there are fortifications, in general, what is the current state of the fore, the impression is that, we are carrying out those positions, where the enemy advances, the enemy then tries to destroy our fortifications, is there a need to restore, let's say, these fortifications. lines, are there opportunities for this , or for now, as it is, we are fighting, look, there is always a need for love, military affairs, fortification, must constant, constant attention and constant, constant work, this is a necessary

component of success and you can't play with it and forget about it, we had two lines, fortifications, and we see this frame when one armored personnel carrier pushes another, those mines that were laid there once on the first line of defense are still working, they are still working and they prove to us every day, and i am not talking about our southern direction of attack, that these are very, very necessary, means and there is no need to talk about it to forget, that is, there are two lines of defense. there are two such powerful mine ee lines and this is all er, i would say, one of the main components of their, let's say, er, failure in the area,

they are very afraid of it and er, well, simply er, there are a lot of such cases when under the column moves to the very edge, when they realize that they now have to... already cross some border and come to the line of contact, to the line of fire, and this column stands and then turns around and moves in, at best there is the first unit, there is a tank goes forward, well, almost always blows up and then they leave, there were many more such waves, than those when they actually left, and they were there almost every day for the last two weeks, they used and asked about tactics, they made mixed columns of everything that was available, that is, tanks, bmp, armored personnel carriers, mtlb, tigers, were columns only with bmp, from the very beginning, there were columns only with wheeled tigers, there were columns only with tanks,

with infantry on them, there were, from different directions, well, that is, they are trying, they are asking, so far we see... in the fields , all these results. mr. andrii, what do we need most now? from the point of view of providing our units, more ammunition, more drones, more thermal imagers there, more anti-tank missiles, what do we need more in terms of the enemy's hope, look, i will say again about the means of the most effective damage in my opinion, this is, firstly , i have already said, this is a mini-nuclear weapon, i want to remind everyone who can, that this is the cheapest and most effective way of introducing defensive actions into the defense, secondly, effective javelins, very effective cluster ammunition, well, the anti-tank missile system

works by itself, not bad, even well ardan u in this direction, it would always and everywhere be like this, it would be good, if necessary, look , if necessary, i will say yes, very... trained people are needed, and this, in my opinion, first of all applies to pilots and sappers, and some and others are vitally important specialties, in the situation , pilots must be trained by the dozens, each unit must be saturated with them, especially since now the drones are completely different, they are different, there are heavy ones, there are light ones, there are bombers and everything for everyone separate pilots are needed for each one, and pilots must be trained right on the spot, with trips, not somewhere in kyiv, but with trips of groups of instructors, to places, to brigades, to train

not only pilots, but also to train commanders so that they understand how to use these latest weapons, these technologies, this is very, very important. in my opinion, in terms of needs, of course, there are also copters, reconnaissance drones with such intensive operations, they are expendable , they are constantly needed, including thermal imaging ones, drones are always needed by everyone everywhere, this is further, i think that camouflage means will be very necessary now, because now you understand, autumn has begun, the trees are already there they will stop working, then it is necessary to fix it, i think that means of heating, some cylinders, vodkas, well, these are standard seasonal sets, chemical heaters, very good, these heaters. of food on the carb, which you can, well, without lighting a fire, add water, and they heat up the food, that is, in advanced positions , we understand that no one will

light any vodka, and hot food is, well, a rather important component, when a person freezes at night there and so further, it is such that i can, well, from myself, i singled out from the combat component, this increasing the number of trained operators in various areas of drones, for that. that it is necessary to train, including sapper engineers, because now both drone operators and engineers bear the main burden both in the offensive and in the defense, this probably, perhaps even should affect the basic structure of the units, so that there are more of these officials, let's say those specialists in the brigade or other military units there, i would also add camouflage means from the military component, this is also very important, it is a consumable, they are needed all the time, and now, even more so about the posts, it all depends on the brigades and their command, there are brigades that are exemplary, the same

59th, which stands between avdeivka and mariyanka, it is probably really exemplary in this regard, but unfortunately, not all brigades are always similar to on this one, yes, that is, it is necessary to deal with it, it is necessary to train people, for example, a heavy copter that costs more than 20,000 dollars, you understand the responsibility, sometimes it’s just, i know that the brigade has them, but they are afraid of some to entrust him to a person, and he can simply lie down, and this is not, well, it is not wrong, it is it is necessary to use it, it is very effective, and at night it has proven itself very well, that is, those brigades that have problems with this and do not develop this component, those brigades have, let's say, problems in the battle, problems with losses, well, it is worth it. mr. andriy, i would like to ask, what part of combat operations took place

at night from the ukrainian side or from the enemy side, to what extent is the night used as, well , a condition of hostilities, do we have a sufficient number of thermal imagers, or does the enemy use night conditions for offensive actions? look, the enemy uses these conditions less than us, he uses a knife. conditions for their logistics, that is, they start their movements , transportation at night, and this is precisely why heavier drones are needed, and in general drones, thermal imaging reconnaissance for correction, so that they have this, this opportunity, that’s it, yes, we have it, more , this is our advantage. in the meantime, god forbid there will be even more, that is, well, this direction

is very, let’s say, promising, and we need to develop it, and now we respect it, yes, there in the same armored vehicles, i said there last time, on vasyl zym's broadcast, that there are very large in the newest armored vehicles, which we received, and there are very large possibilities of using them by name. at night, and she will prove herself quite well in this, but again , it requires trained personnel, you need practice, you need to do it, you need to use these bradleys, these e-challengers, they have very high-quality thermal imaging sights, very accurate weapons, god forbid that we start using it, the enemy,

there were such attempts before, i met such near bakhmut, but they don’t at all, they go out at night, god forbid they don’t have it, they have it there, i understand that pvn, these old soviet night watchmen, they, well, let’s say, at night, only sabotage groups can , to use, and so that in general military... practice, god forbid, let this advantage remain and increase. mr. andriy, thank you very much for the inclusion , for what you do for our country, i would like to remind our viewers that the firiso was andriy shishuk, with the call sign seyever - this is a military unit from a military unit that is currently participating in hostilities in the avdiivka area. and then pavlo kishkar, major of the armed forces, commander of the artillery division, joins us. mr. pavle, glad to see and hear. well, thank god, i am the deputy, but the prospects are good, and then, by the way, about the position, because i wanted to talk with you about the work of the accelerator

of the ministry of defense in view of certain changes in the ministry of defense and i see that mono says that you were and remain, i think, the head of the project office of the accelerator, no one removed this position from you, yes, so far it has not been removed and until now serhii loboyko remains coordinator of the accelerator, this work is being carried out at an intense pace by the very team that was assembled under his leadership, and by the way, then ask who among the new deputy ministers is now responsible for ensuring that the innovations offered by... the accelerator, well, quickly were implemented by the ministry of defense, into the armed forces, who is now, relatively speaking, the top official of the ministry of defense after the personnel changes, today is the former head of the logistics forces, aka lieutenant general, it seems, by military rank, who heads the direction of the development of weapons of military equipment, and he, after

the order on the composition of the accelerator is changed, will be responsible for the direction and work of the accelerator and, accordingly, for the development of the armament of military equipment. in particular, adoption of new models of ukrainian- made military equipment. mr. pavle, i would like to , unfortunately, we have little time here given the complexity of communication. i would like to talk to you about, given your now combat experience again, the possibility of using robotic platforms, because you said that there is an understanding of where actually they can be used, how to speed up this process? well, today we are developing systems that will be more effective in defensive measures than in offensive ones, and ukrainian manufacturers are massively involved in the development of the latest

weapons systems and military equipment, specifically on the platform of robotic systems. and they use different communication, controlling, and encryption systems for that, and today, already in the zaporizhzhia region, we have a whole series of robotic systems, in particular saber complexes, i think we use them en masse we will be able to put it into service at the end of spring, and you will see drastic changes in the ground component, how modern automated, robotic systems will be used in battle, including with the help of an accelerator, because in the words of oleksiy skrypnyk, the kingdom of heaven, he mentioned, the war of the future and called the war of the future a war of robots, so we are ready for this new war, new challenges, ukrainian manufacturers are ready, the question now is about

internal procedures. the ministry of defense in order to speed up these procedures, speed up consideration of certain types of weapons and their deployment in the military, the accelerator itself is designed for this and works by all possible and impossible means to accelerate the appearance of new modern types of robotic equipment at the front. mr. pavle, literally now. a few days ago, a week ago, the procedure for admission to the operation of drones and reb equipment was simplified. does the accelerator have anything to do with these decisions? undoubtedly, these decisions were still worked out in the month of july, and the structural composition and

the deputy minister of defense at that time, mr. gavrilov, joined this procedure, i actually thank the cabinet of ministers for the fact that under...' us in these developments, in general, the systems of unmanned aerial vehicles and rep, they are such a separate article , because we consider this to be the main direction of the development and turning point of the front precisely from the point of view of the offensive actions of the ukrainian army of the defense forces of ukraine, so by all means. procedures, which are designed to put into service, unmanned aerial vehicles and means rep. mr. palo, you are currently on zaporozhye direction, what do you feel from the point of view of the needs of your full-time unit, what would you need, well, if there were more of them? you know, well , rap definitely won't hurt, i think antennas, and