[000:00:00;00] such a right for ukrainians to have multiple citizenships, first of all, there is a certain fact that , for example, we have thousands of people fighting in the foreign legion, and we should at least thank them with ukrainian citizenship, well, the ability to acquire ukrainian citizenship, plus you have to think about how to work in the style of the french legion so that... in case of need and desire of these people, so that they can change their surname, change, acquire the citizenship of other countries, and in this sense, ukraine should also take care of this , well, i think there's more to it maybe some opportunity for a lot of citizens, because i actually think there are a lot of them who have passports, united states, switzerland, maybe germany, maybe cyprus,

maybe there, the bahamas or there. some or some poet, well, i don't know, different possible states that cannot enlighten them, well, they will be able to easily get their passports, to israel there or other countries and say hungary in particular, by the way or poland, say, and in we have three passports, well , let's live honestly, and i think that everyone should it will be easier, that is, well, and it is a good idea in the sense that, yes, citizenship of ukraine is not the status of a people's deputy, let's be feminists, it is the head of heads, like a head girl. in a word, the head of the committee of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on national security, maryana bezugla, wrote, she had a number of such posts there, quite strange, and about whether you would like to see deputies shot there as well, well, in a word, but she wrote it like this, and if it was because of the confusion of european solidarity, people's deputies, they are all there in my opinion 28 or how many, but she said that roto was created, well, roto is 100 men, she seems to have served, she says, she should know how many men are in the company, well, but such a thing, as if from

the deputies of the european union. roto and send it to avdiivka, so whatever it is, what do you think, i ask the contributors, minsk debaltseve two or minsk-3. these are the words, i will only add from myself that 70 members of the european solidarity of deputies, also of various levels, died in this war, and now fighting in the ranks of the armed forces, it is members of the european solidarity, not just well, not just supporters, or as they say parakhbobots, yes 2400, again, if i'm not mistaken, please explain why such things are done, he says. especially about her colleagues, what is the purpose here, how to react to it, the most important thing, the most appropriate thing is that bezula said it on the day when myroslav lyashko, a member of parliament from sumy region from european solidarity, died, and to say such a thing on the day of his death , well, to be honest, i have such a suspicion that maryana bezugla, as the head

of the committee on defense and security. knows for sure that there are 32 teeth in the mouth, how many soldiers there are roti, she doesn't know, it's the first thing, the second thing, i'm very worried about the mental health of not only maryana beuzugal, but of the entire faction of the servant of the people, if she, being, well, one of the key figures of the parliament, because during the war, it's a key the committee allows such nonsense to be uttered, especially me, to be honest, it brought, brought, brought it, her post for the fact that you are in favor of killing deputies, or what is it for, this is what it was written for, well, the impression is very, very unpleasant, i insisted and

insist that the last couple of months, in the servant and in power, there is absolutely some kind of schizophrenic situation, that is, they are all gnawing at each other, and the result of this gnawing is constantly flying out into the media space, and we must react to this with a cold mind and, so to speak, with some political maturity to this frenzy, but, well, this is what the servants are doing for our money, instead of rationally taking care of... the defense of the country, they squander billions of money, aimlessly during the war, and for this purpose, the eyes of the blind, insane are launched in order to, er, well , so to speak copper space. i understand that certain rehearsals are currently taking place for the upcoming elections, who will survive, and hardly

every fourth political ... servant of the people will survive, and because of this they are starting to attack the most stable, most intellectual and experienced faction of european solidarity, because let's see two political forces, one numerous, the other non-numerous, one definitely a platoon, very combative, which defeats this, well, full company, servants of the people. on the day he dies, a local deputy from european solidarity carries out a bezugala the topic of the company from the eu, but at this time the leader, well, the leader of the faction, the leader of the party, petro poroshenko, is asking biden to accept, well, to vote for the invitation of ukraine to nato in washington, the next summit

will be in the spring of next year in washington, let's look at a mature and not a political one, well, in any case, i think that these things should be investigated and such persons should be called to speak to the competent authorities, because it just looks very strange, to say the least, thank you very much mr. volodymyr, what joined, thank you for your comments, volodymyr tsibulko, political scientist and people 's deputy of ukraine of the fourth convocation, now i invite to the conversation serhiy zgurets, director of the defenspress agency and host of the military summaries of the day column. sergey, congratulations. i congratulate you, vasyl, i congratulate our viewers. i think today you will tell more about it, whether it is a terekon or not a terekon , on which the russian rag was carried by the majors today near avdiivka, i will not ask about that, i will ask today about, this is interesting, a joint venture. it will help us now and somehow will issue weapons in this war, as far as it can effectively already give us what is necessary for well, as they say, the fuel of war, weapons and ammunition, please, well, indeed , we have heard about this enterprise not for the first time, it is

a joint enterprise of german companies and the ukrainian defense industry, at first it was talked about in may, when there was still ukoboronprom, now the ukrainian defense industry and we see that from october 18 a new agreement on a joint venture, direction: work, is the production of armored personnel carriers, red metal said that it can be armored personnel carriers, fux, the repair of the armored vehicles that germany supplies to ukraine, in particular, i hope that it will be the repair of leopards and the repair of other types of armored vehicles that can be repaired at this enterprise, where it will be unclear, because they promised that it would be in western ukraine, now, according to german documents, it is said that this will be an enterprise in kyiv, so we will wait for further details, but in any case the trend... it is more correct and understandable, we need to create joint ventures with powerful foreign companies, and then in our military program, we will talk about front-line actions on the front around avdiyivka, about our so-called trench rap, and whether we can

blind and jam enemy lancets, and about the front behind the front line, about demining our lands with the help of new technologies. more on that in a moment. so about the front line. in general, if we take into account the establishment of the general staff , it seems that the dynamics at the front have decreased somewhat, because we are talking about a total of 55 combat clashes, although just two days ago we were talking about 90, that is, in fact, it seems activation has decreased by a third, but in fact, based on these quantitative indicators, it is difficult to assess, well, the criticality in certain areas, in particular, if we are talking about avdiivka, because here the enemy is trying to advance from krasnogohorivka in the direction of stepovoy and berdecha, or to get to the railway, and here at least three russian brigades are already operating, and what is interesting is that these

brigades were actually from the second army of russia, which previously operated precisely in the liman direction, that is, the transfer of troops from the liman takes place here, and they suffered significant losses there, but we understand that they continue to advance to those areas that they want to seize, and in fact now the entire area from krasnogohorivka and in the north to terekon, or the so-called height 230, is a zone of such continuous combat operations. with the support of airstrikes, the enemy is now continuing the assault on terikon, based on the extreme information that has already appeared, that the enemy did manage to break into terikon, which is 2 km from avdiivka. in particular, these data confirm the conclusions of deepstate analysts with the corresponding video. of course, this is the tactical position of our troops is getting worse, but i do not rule out that this will now

cause our artillery to work more actively on this height to drive the enemy off the field. it is also important not to allow the enemy to gain a foothold behind the railway and to go into the zone related to the footholds behind the railway, so that the situation on this part of the front is extremely difficult, especially since the enemy is now trying... to act in the south of avdiivka as well, he wants to break through defense in the district , the water is experienced in the direction of the north, and here from the steppe to the north, just in general somewhere 8 km between these krishna, which the enemy is trying to close and thus ensure the encirclement of our troops, of course this will not happen, but we understand that a significant amount of enemy force is now directed to this area by the front.

as for other directions, there is actually such a dynamic balance in certain directions, where the enemy is trying to act using its reserves, now it seems that the enemy is actually throwing all the accumulated reserves into battle in order to gain their positions and move our front line to certain areas, in particular in the avdiivka area, and he will continue to attack our positions. life force and the impression that it is really about the implementation of such a political instruction of putin, to achieve promotion at any cost, in order to create grounds, at least for some kind of winning relations for the russian consumer. however, in all areas of the front, on both sides , drones are now actively used for reconnaissance and strike functions, and the fight against enemy drones is carried out in various ways, but one of

the most. system - this is the use of systems and means of radio-electronic warfare, and we usually hear here about trench warfare as an important component of such combat operations, which in our units are on the front line, and now we are joined by a person known in this field with his practical actions and professional assessments, this a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, serhiy beskresnov, whom everyone knows as serhiy flash, mr. serhiy, glad to see and welcome on kanaluso air. good evening, hello. so, what is your current general assessment of the situation regarding equipment of our units with trench warfare, i.e. , means for combating enemy drones. did you have the opportunity to monitor this process, what has changed at least in the last six months on the front line with our means? er, yes, yes, let's first define it for our viewers so that they understand what we are talking about. trench rap is a kind of term that

describes a number of means of radio electronic warfare that are portable, yes, that is, in fact, they are used by soldiers in the trenches at the front, that is, it is rap, radio electronic the device, in space jammers , which are not based on machines, are not deployed hardware-wise, but are carried, are used by ordinary soldiers, that is , primarily designed to fight drones and drones. autelas and now the fight against fpv drones comes to the forefront, which cause great damage to our troops, the most striking example of a trench slave, which you all know, is an anti-drone gun, designed to, let's say, shoot down, destroy enemy drones, do not give named after to conduct surveillance, that's how the continuation of anti-drone guns, we have a new category, these are so-called domes, or shields, that is, in the form of formed protection,

which do not give, let's say, drones. to attack our servicemen, unfortunately, we have a great deal of tension in the armed forces, that is, we have it staffed for probably 25 percent of the necessary needs, and the rap, perhaps, rather, we can say, is closed for literally 2- 3% of the requirements, because there is not a single division, platoon, or company abandon anti-drone guns, you all know how necessary it is, how people... collect money for it, how it is all used, therefore, unfortunately, uh, the war has been going on for almost 2 years, but we still have a catastrophic deficit the means of the buyer, but is it true that there is information that, relatively speaking, the enemy is now changing the frequency ranges on which the drones operate there, and this actually leads to the fact that the accumulated stocks of our anti-drone guns, they become, well, not needed, is this a certain exaggeration of this situation? the absolute truth, this game goes in two directions

, that is, we do the same as they do, fortunately, this does not happen so quickly, because there are large stocks of previously purchased modules, so the transition to other frequencies will be inevitable, this is a question for the future , and the question is, who is the first to prepare for this future, we or the enemy , because in fact, as only we have the means of trenches in sufficient quantity on the fonts, and we will be able to inflict damage on the enemy, and the enemy will be able to inflict damage to us, the question immediately arises about the transition to other frequencies, then, is the other information about the fact that if the reb is working, the connection is established, if we are there... we are buzzing russian eagles there, then our drones are not flying at this time , how to avoid such difficult situations on the battlefield? yes, this question is very relevant, first of all, on all fronts, because when rap works a lot on the basis of our apparadnyh machines, it all happens centrally, just

now in the picture you see a complex, one of our complexes on the automobile base, this all happens centrally at the command level, when work is done, this is a purchase report, this is most often not coordinated with anyone , and this leads, among other things, to the loss of both enemy drones and our own drones, we have more and more different types of fronts, winged buffoons, they fly on different ranges, different frequencies, and the moment will certainly come when the uncontrolled use of trench warfare on the fronts will cause damage, it is necessary to do something about it initially, organize these directions, write for ours for ours infantry instructions on how to use a trench rifle correctly, because mm , i will say right away, running ahead, i will probably answer your question, that trench rifle, which is now used against pyvidrons, is wrong in the complex, that is, it is impossible to include hundreds of watts of power , they are constantly broadcast on the air, because, firstly, we are a target for the enemy’s radio reconnaissance

, which will see such transmitters very well, very far away, direct artillery at it, they will destroy it, and secondly, this is constant radiation, it will waste batteries will have a negative impact on the energy resource, including interfering with our pilots, therefore the only correct way to protect against drones is the following: that is, the rap must work in the mode of on-call reception, do not emit anything, do not disturb anyone, fix the approach of the drone, turn on for a certain time, will suppress this drone , they will be on combat duty again, the russian complexes work on this principle, the serbian complex works on this principle, that is why we need to move in this direction. literally a week ago in ukraine have simplified this procedure for admitting to the operation of drones and means of radio-electronic warfare, or what will this give in practice , will it really allow us to implement

good solutions faster so that they are produced and purchased by our units, the situation is as follows, in fact, any unit can nothing will be purchased by agreement with anyone, but this is wrong, because all the equipment and weapons must be placed on the armament of the zsu, officially, it must be used, correctly, that is, how only the equipment is officially commissioned, then we have the right to immediately write instructions for it on its application, instructions and so on , conduct training, hold courses, organize service support and work as it is customary with the equipment, before that, the commissioning process in us... was simply monstrous, it took six months or an hour , we had to go through all the torments of hell, pass a dozen tests, agreed, eh, that is, i can’t just convey to you in words how difficult it was, the current procedure, this makes everything easier it is enough to conduct joint test trials of several different units of the body, submit conclusions, in principle, according to

the accelerated procedure, it is possible to put rap and drones into service, this is definitely a big breakthrough, all that remains is for us to establish the production of this slave itself. about which we are talking in the right amount, and about combating lancets, is there any workable solution to reduce the effectiveness of the use of these enemy barrage impact munitions? yes, of course, our boys show effective results in the fight against including the lancet, the only thing worth noting is that as soon as the lancet captured the target or went to the target and began to dive, the rap will not help here, that is, we must interfere with the lancet. will fly from the point where he has already flown to start the attack down. at this stage, rap is very effective, but unfortunately, for a number of reasons, we have to work with several complexes on the lancet, they must be powerful enough, trench rap will not work here, these must be complexes on a car base, with good antennas

directed, with good power, there should be several of them, and you understand that all this is difficult, because we simply do not have such a quantity physically. on all fronts, that is, we cannot protect absolutely all long lines, sections, important targets from lancets , therefore our colleagues who work in the field of rap do not sleep, they are really active, but we are held back only by the amount of rap means that are in armed forces mr. sergey, thank you very much for these explanations, for your work, for your service, i hope that further on the espresso channel we will continue our cooperation and yours. inclusion, in order to explain what rap is and how it works, i will remind our viewers that it was sergey beskresnov, whom everyone knows under the nickname flash, an expert in radio electronic warfare, and later in our military program we will talk about the front line behind the front line there, where active hostilities have already taken place and where up to 30%

of ukraine's areas are mined by the enemy and they are dangerous for activity, and this yashvorh must be removed from our lands. ministry of the economy of ukraine announced that there is an intention to return to operation 80% of the potential...' of the replacement territories of ukraine within 10 years, as far as this is realistic, what forces and means, technologies and funds are needed for this, we will talk about this further with our next guest , we invited a representative of the ministry of economy to a conversation, and now, when we are talking about demining, i will say that in fact it remains extremely difficult, because ukraine is turning into a state that is the most demined, before

croatia was considered to be like that, and now, actually, ukraine really comes to the fore, because the enemy actively used mines, we know this from different areas of the front, and now, in fact, a number of our squares, which are used by our peasants, are actually extremely dangerous, attempts by villagers to demine themselves, they lead to tragic cases, this indicates that it is actually necessary, well, systematic... work to be done by professionals, in fact, they are sapper operators who have certified conclusions in order to carry out, carry out demining, and now we will talk in more detail about this topic with our guest, igor bezkravynyi joins us, this is the deputy minister of economy, coordinator of the direction of humanitarian demining, mr. igor, i welcome you to the espresso channel, congratulations, good. evening, please tell us what is the current scale of the problems caused by landmines and what

strategy has the ministry of economy chosen to deal with this challenge? well, look, if we talk about the scale, the figure is probably a lot who heard 17400 km is an area that is potentially dangerous and any square meter of this area can be mined or littered with remnants of war , and if we talk about contamination by explosive objects, it is not only about mines that are laid directly by the enemy, it is also about unexploded shells, ammunition, regional warfare, and so on, and so on , we have 17,400 km of potentially dangerous territories, and the main, main word in this, in this design is potentially, and in order to to determine which territory really needs or will need cleaning in the future, we first of all need to... conduct a survey of these territories, let's say, what we have now at our disposal is world experience and the main approaches used in

the survey, this is not a technical survey , a classic tool, when a group of specially trained specialists goes to the area, collects information, analyzes and thus concludes whether there is a potential threat in this or that area, a problem the disadvantage of this approach is that it is very resource-intensive, it requires very, very many people and a lot of time, and we just don't have enough time, so the main strategy chosen was chosen by the ministry of economy, together with all its authorities and stakeholders involved in this process, is to speed up the process of surveying the territory by incorporating the latest technologies into it, it is remote surface scanning, analysis of satellite images and so on and so forth, so that we can quickly establish which the area is really polluted, and i... not polluted and can be put back into effective use at any time for

example in the agarosphere. mr. igor, you mentioned the use of the latest technologies, i think that this will be precisely our unique ukrainian approach, and what are the examples of the use of such new solutions that really significantly accelerate the detection of mines, and, well, the analysis of the territory that may be contaminated by explosives items, or some... good solutions that can already be said to be working, a good solution, which already work and have been proven, is actually the analysis of satellite images, which can show us precisely dangerous areas, for example, the district conduct of hostilities, when we know that there the field is all strewn with craters after ruptures, or we see lazy networks of trenches and fortifications, which was destroyed as a result of the offensive actions of our country, our army, and it definitely works, but the fact is that not everything is visible from space, and for this we need exactly those new approaches that are not yet used in the world, but the ukrainian experience will definitely become on

weapons, that's right. at all world expert forums where these issues are discussed. for example, we can talk about surface scanning with drones, but what is important to know is that a drone is a means of delivery, it is a vehicle that carries a certain scanner that surveys the surface of the earth or under the surface, and this is where the biggest problem is revealed, because there are different scanners, there are different approaches to the survey of this territory, but... both the approach and these approaches, they work differently in different conditions. our task now combine all these technologies into one unified one, or clearly develop criteria when what we can use so that every time when using such a scanner, for example on this one, we get the same result, because

the cost of the case will be extremely high. mr. igor, but when we talk about the fact that any is determined by time and money, that is, the issue of demining territories that are potentially dangerous, are there indicators regarding time limits and financial limits, and where to get money for these processes? well let's go, and starting with the financial ones, we have an initial analysis there that was done by the world bank, and they calculated 37.5 billion dollars for the complete clearing of that territory, which is now potentially - mined, however, when they calculated it, they used the world in practice, relatively speaking, after surveying the territories, as a rule, 8-15% of the truly polluted remains, that is, relatively speaking , they took these parameters as a basis, in our case, this indicator may be higher, because the duration of hostilities is longer in our country,

because we have the intensity of use, and the variety of weapons that are used in the last such during the second world war, and so on, and so on, we can assume that this parameter will be more and, accordingly, it will affect the cost, and again, this is a very, very approximate number that's been calculated very roughly and it could go up, but it could go down if we, i'll even say, not if, but when we apply this remote scanning tool, it's going to speed things up a lot and to reduce the cost of the very processes of the territory survey, what concerns the time frame. here it is much more difficult, because we can talk about the strategic perspective that we are facing, that we are facing, is to return to effective use in the next 10 years 80% of the territories that are now considered potentially contaminated, those 17,400 km that i said at the beginning, we want

to return to operation in the coming years, that is , to examine what was not mined, to return what was mined not very much or not very much to clean up heavily polluted areas, but we will have extremely clogged and extremely polluted areas, there we can go beyond this parameter for 10 years, of course, because well, let's face it, if it's very true, then on the border of belgium and france, at the moment there are territories that have not been used since the first world war, so how long will the complete cleansing of ukraine last, in the full sense. so far no one can predict what will happen in ukraine in the world, but there is a strategic perspective of 80% in 10 years and we go to her. mr. ihor, thank you very much for the inclusion, for these explanations, and i would like to remind our viewers that filklanexpress was ihor bezkaravainy, deputy minister of economy , coordinator of the direction of humanitarian demining, this threat is quite significant to our state, if we look at the amount of space that need demining.

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