[000:00:00;00] i'm sorry for the recorded loss of occupants just last month, and this loss is precisely due to drones, thanks to the work of fpv drones, on the other hand, we understand that controlling a drone is not an easy task, yes, it's not the same as, i don't know, controlling a computer there computer or phone, when you simply select certain functions, certain programs, we will now show a video about how the opera robot can sometimes look like. drones, that is actually also very, very dangerous, and sometimes these so-called drone operators are working, and they are literally rained down on their heads drones are sitting somewhere far from the front line, we are somehow different from your videos, it’s not true , let’s watch the video now, and then please tell me about the difficulties, about the nuances and how many such operators there are in your unit,

how long it takes to... all these nuances, well, drones are also changing, improving, accordingly, operators must constantly learn. well, yes, in such a person sits, works, it rains on his head, he cannot get up, because precisely the work process and this is the responsibility of fpv drone operators to be literally on zero? yes, it is. it was our pilot on the video, but look, we are not sitting somewhere deep in the back, the closer we are to the zero line, the further we can fly, the command, when they see the full picture of the battle that is happening, they give us tasks, it is necessary to do this, that, that, and sometimes we understand that in order to do this, you see this drone and know what it is capable of, you think, well, yes, you need to get even

closer, you approach, well, it happens 600 and 900 m to the front line to the direct bombardment, which has to fly out, but we are very large we pay attention to the preparation of the places where the pilots fly from, even in the winter time we are now thinking about even heating these places, it is not only there that it is just a matter of digging a hole and putting something there, it must be prepared, because life depends on it , health and in general the effectiveness of the work of the calculation, we are with but yes, we, we, we are time, we are next to the infantry, we stand behind them, yes, and fly, we, mr. olesya, knew from your comrades-in-arms that including the fact that there was a lot of it in the bahamian direction drones and means of radio-electronic warfare , of such an operational, small type, which could move even on armor, as it looks now, because it is an eternal duel between

a drone and a drone, right? so how is the balance of power in your direction, let's say? i will say that they have enough forces and resources and had before the war, they were preparing for it, very actively, and we have more and more, and well, there is something, there is something to detect their drones, there is something to plant them, roughly speaking, to destroy, that is, well, there is development in this regard, it is good, but what can be done learned, in particular in this bakhmut direction, i.e. what he did not have in the 22nd year and what now and new schools, which the brainy ones have, what they learned, well , i will say that before they still put more emphasis on the use of professional means, this is orlan orlan reconnaissance hall, lancet cube shock, then in recent months they are using

military drones more and more, no no no, that's it. drones, they have more and more, understand that you have to work with it, and it gives results. but, but any technical means, in order to use them, you need to be able to do it, and here the quantity and quality of use are won, sometimes having one or two drones there, you can do more, here on the video, now you see, one of the best pilots of ukraine , i won't say his name, our guy, oh, here are all ours, yes. bright heads, yes, god bless them, these guys, these girls, they know how to do their job and having one, two, three drones, i can do more than they have 50, mr. olesya, you said guys and girls, this made me interested, if girls and how many girls, how many girls work as drone pilots, in particular you , and another story, always, very often the military say that how they learned to be good

drone pilots is because they had fun in various... relevant computer games reached high levels, and this is also the success of the ukrainian armed forces, because we have many such people who have computers and spend their leisure time in this way, by the way, now computer they want to recognize and carry out the games as a kind of sport international competitions, and the russians say that it is a little more difficult, because somewhere in some yakutia or somewhere else, they are not really engaged in such things before, and those who sit in st. petersburg and moscow, they do not serve, accordingly, they may also they could, but they don't come to the front, as from... from your side, as actually from the front line, it all looks like, well, girls, we have one pilot, a girl, she is very cool, her callsigns are avocados, and as for the operators fpv, well, first of all

, you have to be at least 30 years old, well, 35, if more, even, even on fpv courses, when there, two guys, over 40, came to us there, they say, what are you doing here, we will fly, you will not fly. indeed, it is very difficult physically, well, the brain of a person who is over 40 already works in a different way, fpv is a very complicated thing, you fly with glasses, you have to orient yourself, but there is a person nearby who tells you to go left, right, move forward, speed up, etc. the rest, regarding cockpit games, they can play, they can not play, this is like an additional bonus, there is no such thing, he played and he turned out to be a great pilot, we even had a journalist from britain come to shoot a movie. and they the whole movie was devoted to the fact that computer scientists and gamers are the best pilots, i say , listen, here are all our pilots, you can watch them all, well, they are not gamers, they just sometimes played a little in their free time, like everyone there

no more, no less, she is like this, well, please tell me that you gamers became pilots , well, we are not gamers, we are ordinary people who, well , they all work there, but we have people there who are 20 years old and older, well, no time, i even played computer games there when i was there until the age of 16, then studies, work, well, not there anymore you play, especially, so are ordinary people here, they just discovered a knack for fixing with drones, they like it, they see it as their own, well, they can do it and the efficiency in it, sir, these are stereotypes, people think that if gamers are sitting in 3d glasses and with a joystick, then they are probably drone operators, i am talking about these fpv drones, that is, kamikaji drones. which , successfully you are fighting, in fact, this is the same consumable, i.e. what does saturation look like now in general, fpv drones of your area, i.e. there is a lack, i would like more, now finally

that's enough, me and anyone else, actually you are provided by the ministry or volunteers, because there are a lot of fees, specifically for fpv, drones, bank after bank in the networks, as they say. what is the matter, if you take expensive drones, for example, bombers, night bombers, babaiga, as the russians call babaigai, have arrived, then they are supplied by the ministry of defense, the ministry of statistics, it is expensive, and this process is already established, often in ukraine they produce enough, we have directly with the manufacturers, and they are constantly improving, there are already the 10th and 11th versions of these, well drones, and fpv, why fpv, is mostly bought unofficially, namely through volunteer channels, because fpv technology changes very quickly and it is difficult to introduce it to the state, it is so inert, it cannot

buy drones of a new model there every two weeks, they will buy, i don’t know, 1000 drones there, and in a month and a half they will already be ineffective, but now, for example, seven-inch drones, which a month and a half ago were all used, and the cleanliness was different, but now even we have some remnants there and we understand that we are not can we use them because they just won't make it, ugh. we buy little by little with these funds that we receive, fortunately we have friends, ukrainians, mostly, who do this, well, they help us, and people donate to us, i have a bank there, it is constantly, a little, but accumulates, i in about a month, he will still be able to buy batches of drones there, and we buy in small batches, from china and also from taiwan, from america, what really works, here are 40 drones, 30 drones, 50 drones, this is enough for a couple of days, but we have we are constantly engaged in this and entertain precisely what is modern and real today is a surprise for them, that is, they are not ready for this, and for a snack, maybe you can tell us something,

because there is information about, too, this is about flies, but i already wanted to know about drones, have you seen anything that they write about italmas, as if new long-range drones have appeared in rusna, have you had the chance to see them, how they work, how good it is, or better than shaheda's mopeds, well , i can't answer that, i don't know, something appears, well, so far this has not happened, i will say that for the most part we are focused on what we are doing, here we are carrying out tasks, we remotely mine their territories, that is, they are standing, and we throw mines behind them so that they there, their logistics were ineffective, we destroy their artillery there, it destroys the infantry to a great extent, sometimes it is very expensive, they tell us that we need to knock out a gun for calculation, or one or two are stuck there, and this is a problem for the infantry, and we spend this drone of ours, which costs $500 to destroy this occupier,

because he... it creates a very big problem for our infantry to land some of the fpv drones of the russians in this way, did they manage to land them, i mean not to shoot them down, and to look at them and say what they use , what do they spin them with, so he already with the introduced charge, it is impossible to land it, that is, we know everything about their drones , it is known , the same designer is just a different composition there. we buy drones, there were such cases that they say here is a batch for the russians, you can buy it back, they are like that, they bought a small batch, but it turned out that they are already out of date there, huh, that is, they bought something that, in principle , no longer works, well, we brought two pieces to us there some people to see what they are buying there, and regarding the shooting down of drones, we have a guy who took a prisoner in may

and wrote this note there, the story spread around the world, he shot down the hall with a kalashnikov assault rifle, saw a drone, he was like that, fired a few shots and she fell like this dragon in the cartoon this one fell beautifully, this is skill, thank you mr. oles, oles malyarevich, sergeant against the attack unmanned aircraft complexes achilles of the 92nd separate assault brigade named after koshovoy ataman ivan tsirk, was with us, we are going to take a break, after the break he will come down to us. serhiy zgurets, wait. there are discounts on cough syrup aflobin plus 25% in podorozhnyk, ban and oskad pharmacies. there are discounts on biotebal tablets. 10% at podorozhnyk, bam and oskad pharmacies. if you are tired of heavy and bulky forks, then the compact and powerful saw strong vidrazpaku tv is just for you.

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the russian flag appeared on the tarekons. our boys and girls successfully destroyed it with an fpv drone. mr. serhiy, i have a question for you about what these terekons near avdiyivka are, how important it is to capture them, actually work on them, and whether ukrainian forces are now control these tires, shoot the territory around them, whether there is, or is there a threat that the russians will get there, well, as we speak. when we talk about tericons, in any case, these are rocks that are the remnants of the work of a coke and chemical plant, in fact, this is such a height, where these rocks have been accumulated for a long time and have a certain height there, which allows drone operators or

snipers , who are there, to control the territory and be relatively speaking through the eyes of certain offensive units, in fact... there is no point in having some combat positions there, fortifications there, but the work of drone operators is quite suitable for being there, in the military sense it has, they repeat, just like that, well, reconnaissance tasks, the fact that the enemy climbed there on the northern edge of the territory, of course, this in a certain way worsens our tactical position, but we see that the artillery and our half-loads actually do not allow the athlete to work actively there and i think that they will be removed from there, and it is much more important the cohochemical plant and the railway, which can be seen from this territo terekon, and the enemy is now trying

to get behind the railway from the direction of krasnogohorivka, to attach to the railway and get to the kohsohim, because the kohsohim itself is a powerful enterprise, where there are many concrete fortifications of buildings and where, passing one of ours is the second line of our defense, i think that now the enemy will throw maximum efforts there to dislodge our units, and the main emphasis is also on the supply itself, the supply line of our garrison in avdiivki, which there it goes through orlivka, this road there is about 22 km, it is actually shot through and the enemy will also plan actions with an effort to strengthen their actions related to the impact on logistical support, in any case, we understand that now a significant amount is drawn there enemy forces, despite the loss, the enemy is still trying to press from the north and from the south

, our general staff understands these risks, so i think that for a long time, i think, the combat operations around the vdiivka will be such a center of attention and forces, and actually our general staff. mr. serhiy, but we saw that there were two big waves of attempts to make a cauldron, strike from the north to the south , go through large columns of equipment and one way or another, well, to make such a cauldron in the style of the second peace, the technique is different, and now we see that they do not lack human resources, and they are actually engaged in meat grinders in zhukov's style, that is, in meat assaults, as our military calls them, and among those meat assaults, yury botusov also showed chevrons as two-armed pvk wagner, i.e. the wagnerites also returned en masse there in general... my question is that we are, we are fortified, there, there is a very serious system,

the defense is crazy, but whether, with such wave after wave of meat assaults, it is possible to push through our defense, it is with such infantry actions of the name zhur, well, it is always difficult to predict what happens on the front line, because , speaking speaking, sometimes everything rests on the stability of one fighter, who may, so to speak , lose the stability to run, this can cause a chain reaction, because this is the reality of combat operations, but when we speak about avdiivka, we are talking about what really happened there from the 9th, during these two weeks there were already massive tank assaults there and armored vehicles there, demogo, there on the eighth there on october 10, then there were there on the 19th, 20th that is, in fact, a significant amount of enemy equipment was lost there, about one brigade of personnel was destroyed there, but we can see that now the enemy

is throwing all its endless reserves, in particular, even from the direction of the liman, to the north. about 15, 21, there is the 30th brigade, all of them they are part of this second combined army, which the entire army has abandoned , in particular, well, it goes to the south of avdiivka, there in the north there are enemy forces operating and in fact these live assaults complement the work of enemy armored vehicles, we understand that now the main emphasis is placed on our defense system with the use of artillery, but we understand that our brigades are also suffering these losses, we understand that to hold back these meat assaults, it also has to be done by our efforts of our soldiers who conduct these combat operations at short distances, this extremely difficult, so in any case we understand that anything can happen in war, the front line is from avivka, there the enemy advances and cannot advance. because the defenses are really fortified there, and that is why the enemy is trying to send these ticks from the north and from the south, this is exactly repeated in avdiyivka and further

in the direction of berdove through berdichi through the railway, down in the direction of the north, this is precisely from the south, so i think that these actions of the enemy will continue and this is an extremely difficult section of the front, which in principle, well, has tactical significance, and for the enemy... it now has an extremely political significance, which probably forms these meaty assaults and the task for the russian general to achieve changes around avdiyivka. mr. serhiy, the financial times drew attention to the ingenuity and ingenuity of the ukrainians, actually wrote about the fact that the missiles that did not work, which we received from the americans, missiles for the f-16, the ukrainians, are air-to -air, the ukrainians took them, modified something there , completed, and now these kind of self-made pppo

have become rockets that can be launched from land, accordingly to shoot down something that flies towards us , please evaluate this innovation, about which, because we always lack ppo, about what scale, how many of them can we have such self-made pppo and how is it, how much is it effectively, well, in fact, it looks like homemade words. air defense, of course, this is a process that goes together with the united states, remember the frankenstein initiative of air defense, that is, the creation of air defense systems from various elements, and this was even stated at the ramstein meeting, when mark milis said that ukraine receives two types of air defense systems with american missiles of different ranges, which can be used to fight enemy targets, these missiles are there with thermal homing heads with radar ones and they actually have to compensate for the lack of soviet missiles, and now we have the fact that

two of these, two types of complexes have already been transferred to us , which can use these am-9 missiles and am7 missiles, this is actually, with a range there of up to 10 to 15 km, and a significant stock of these missiles in our partners, just allows us to talk about the fact that another direction of strengthening our anti-aircraft defense is being created of defense, we call it self-made air defense, but in fact it was a complex process of combining various elements of soviet and american systems in order to provide ukraine with even greater opportunities to fight against various targets, in particular with those shahids or other models that are now appearing at the enemy mr. serhiu, german chancellor scholz yesterday announced a winter support package worth almost 15 billion euros, but what we know is the systems themselves. that is, the patriot, irish and cheetah. well, confirm, or

tell us more, we just heard, super. reviews that airiste showed almost one hundred percent, or one hundred percent efficiency, cheetah was called the most effective, in relation to shaheds, just estimate how much this winter package can seriously strengthen the air defense of the sky, indeed, we are talking about the fact that this package from of the german side is extremely important , because in fact we are talking about the appearance in our arsenal of two more... important components that we already had and know the effectiveness of these systems, in particular this complex, now we will not have two or three batteries, patriots, the germans give us a complete complex, that is, in fact, it is about eight launchers of 60 missiles, if i am not mistaken , relsky before that, that is, a command post, that is , it is a full-fledged complex that can fight ballistic targets with, and with

aeroballistic targets, the main thing with ballistics, this is true, this is the second new model that the german company del produced for export in limited quantities, and we actually became the first user of this complex in combat conditions and saw and proved that we can use it to the maximum effectively, because on the one hand, the technical parameters of the complex, on the other hand, the tactics of use and the training of the personnel, this is also important, so you think, these two components are extremely important just before the winter period, well, cheetahs actually, we have cheetahs i think there will already be more than 60 of these, tanks with guns that destroy the shaheds, indeed, this is considered the most optimal complex for fighting the shaheds, because to destroy the shahedo there, you need literally

two or three shells to destroy the shahed, and this determines precisely the low cost of destroying shaheds, because it is not worth shooting down shaheds with expensive missiles, this is exactly what the enemy is counting on in order to have options for destroying and exhausting our air defense, the cheetah system minimizes such efforts of the enemy, just cheetahs, well, absolutely showed well on the battlefield, and by the way, red metal bought, created its own ammunition company for cheetahs, because switzerland , which manufactured ammunition, did not want them for us until now, raey's concert directly manufactures and supplies this ammunition for cheetahs, what minimizes the risks that we will not have ammunition for these systems, mr. serhiy, thank you for the analysis of the situation, serhii zgorets , director of information consulting of the defense express company, actually told us everything, you heard everything yourself, yes, unfortunately, there is no opportunities to include representatives of slavuta from khmelnytskyi region in the conversation, there

are ongoing meetings, let us remind you that the destruction. are injured in the shepetivskyi district as a result of the shooting down of enemy air targets, they fell on the territory of a critical infrastructure object. now we will show in the video, what do the apartments in slavut look like after what happened that night, this is already the fourth night in a row when khmelnychchyna, slava and netishyn starokostyantiniv are attacked. by the way, to my dismay, this is classic, it looks like this after an explosive wave. gives windows, doors, apartments, so the explosions were like that, it’s simple, here is a question for the experts, if they killed the shaheds, then what exploded on the ground, and where were they aimed, not far away is the khmelnytsky nuclear power plant in despair, but that’s not the case now , approaching 9:00, the time when we we remember all those who died defending ukraine , defending us and with you in

the russian-ukrainian war, now we honor them with a moment of silence, if only in this way, we can pay them due respect. let's honor the memory of ukrainian soldiers and peaceful citizens of ukraine who