[000:00:00;00] these interest groups or someone's private business projects were never raised and, accordingly, did not influence politics, well, i am silent about the fact that there are parties that, for example, 20 years ago may have had an influence, but they have long been forgotten, but any person who, during all the years of independence, was at least once in the political party of the party, is now a pep, and is subject to strict financial monitoring, here and there, respectively, in this case, the armed forces as an institution that pays these people salaries, i.e. she collects information about how many people do they have to inform the banks about this, that's all, that's all betrayal, that is, sorry, but not betrayal, it's a pity if i disappointed someone, but there is no betrayal, but i'm sorry, words, the stupidity of legislators takes place, not the first time, by the way, exactly the same thing happened with electronic declaration, there was a very interesting

interview of the former ambassador... nada in ukraine, when he had already retired and could afford to say everything, so he directly said that really the event required electronic declaration from top officials, and they thought it would be several hundred people who will be carefully monitored, well, let's say a couple of thousand with relatives, but ukraine took and brought the entire civil service into this category, received more than 30,000 declarants at once, and thus it is simply physically impossible to monitor all these declarations, but now with the peps, this story has exactly repeated itself. thank you, mr. yevgeny, for the conversation and for being with us, tsevgen dyky, veteran of the russian-ukrainian war, former commander of the batalna aidar platoon. friends, we are working live on telekanaluso, as well as on our platforms,

facebook, for those who are currently watching us on youtube and facebook, please like this video, subscribe to our social media pages, and take part in the poll we are holding today on youtube, we are asking you today , do you trust what you see in the only telethon, yes, no, or your own opinion, please write in the comments under this video, we are interested to know your opinion, we are in touch with a major general in the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine, former first deputy commander of the special operations forces of the armed forces forces of ukraine and former deputy secretary of the nsdc serhiy kryvonost. mr. general, i congratulate you, i am glad to see you on our air. good evening, glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. mr. general, over the past few weeks we have seen the activity of the russian occupiers in the avdiiv direction, the way they are destroying the city, shelling the city, how many forces they are throwing there, uh, experts and military analysts from the american institute for the study

of war say that , which was the first offensive operation they did in october, it was october 10, brought significant losses to the russian occupiers, and they lost a lot of equipment, now they are regrouping, you as a person who knows donbas very well, because you fought on the eastern front with the russians in 2014, please tell me what they want as a result offensive on avdiivka to get russia. and will they get it? the russians are waiting for and want to conquer the new stalingrad, they are already running out of money, and now they need an audiobook, this concerns the informational content of their successes, which concerns the directly practical military necessity, then their desire

to seize avdiivka and continue the offensive, and try to cut the grouping of the armed forces of ukraine in the donbas direction in half. and it is clear that in this situation the ukrainian army has no other option but to simply hold back this rush, a huge rush, which is trying to take the city, which is the gateway to donetsk, they have repeatedly said over the past year and a half that here they are will go to the borders of donetsk and luhansk regions, administrative, as they call them these groups of the dpr and lpr, but judging by what they are doing in donbas , there will simply be scorched earth, there are destroyed cities, destroyed villages, there is nothing there at all, what do you think putin wants from donbas, it will be a gray area,

he wants to create a gray zone between ukraine and russia, or he wants to turn these, this area into landfills or something else, can you explain some... logic, if it is possible at all, there is only one logic, their desire to destroy everything , which can be destroyed and leave not even a gray zone, but a dead zone, and uh, so that for many years, the word donbas was perceived by any ukrainian as simply a burnt land, which is sown with a huge number of human skeletons, this is such an informational psychological influence and with... you know, with a gap for the future of even a generation ukrainians, this is an attempt to turn the war into a classic genocide, the destruction of ukrainians as a nation, and both

the military and the civilian population, i am not talking about the destruction of the entire donbas infrastructure. mr. general, yesterday, shmyhalal, denys shmyhal, to the prime minister. of ukraine in in an interview with the financial times, he said that there is a huge shortage of ammunition in the world , the warehouses are empty, so it is necessary, he said, to fix the process of production, weapons and ammunition on the territory of the country, does this mean that the current shortage, which shmygal is talking about, the shortage of ammunition, one way or another, over the next year will affect the russian... ukrainian front and our capabilities. well, first of all, it finally woke up after four years of reign, let's call it that, because

when at the beginning of the 20th year, the green government for its specific actions reduced the number of workers by 1,400 at the artem plant, at that time it was a powerful enterprise that could ... produce 18,000 shells per year, in the prospects for the beginning of the 21st year, there was an expansion of production to 360 shells per year , instead, in order to develop it, the authorities cut everything and brought the rest of the workers to one day of work during the work week, then the two years we had, if it worked at full capacity, is about 7,000 shells. and 7,000 shells at that expense 70 days of active artillery war on the entire russian-ukrainian front at the expense of even our own shells , that's what we have, regarding mr. shmegal's statement that the warehouses are empty, the warehouses are empty for

ukraine, this is the first, the second, because no one will give you projectiles that are in the warehouses of the armed forces of nato countries and not only nato countries, which are stockpiled and stored for solving strategic tasks in the interests of those countries in whose warehouses they are located, a capitalist country cannot afford to have surpluses or produce surpluses if there is no need, it must be understood, those projectiles that we had, again, in huge quantities after the soviet union, some of them were sold in a sufficiently large volume. part of it was blown up during certain explosions of our warehouses in different years and at different times, and another part was quite successful, let's call it,

disposed of during 12-13 years, when , according to the order of the chief of the general staff, hundreds of thousands of shells were fired and it was fired during these two years under the guise of recycling hundreds of thousands projectiles, we lost a huge amount of ammunition and at the same time, well, catastrophically, reduced the resource of our artillery barrels, even by sandpaper , if we did this, it would be much less damage than what we did due to this firing. and it is important for us to understand that it was necessary to produce shells on the territory of our country a long, long time ago. and it was not necessary to talk about it, it was necessary to deal with it, and the distribution, distribution of our resources and using the spur effect,

which i told the authorities to do a year ago this, and as for the production of artillery shells, i also stated that this should have been done in april last year, instead of doing it, the authorities directly did not protect the artem plant at that time, and we remember how in april 2023 more than one rocket flew there last year, therefore, mr. shmyhal's idea is not new for a long time, but how can we now... implement this issue is another matter, but it can be done if there is less pr on it, less telling the society where what and how, and do your thing quietly. sir general, you talk about the fact that at one time the government did not put in the necessary efforts to create this production, but rather reduced the production of ammunition and, well , weapons, accordingly, you constantly say government, government, government.

but every government has a powerful man who makes these decisions, probably there are names, so in principle, i think that you, as the former deputy secretary of the national security service of ukraine, know exactly how it all happened, can you say who, who, who did it and why did they do it, was it an evil intention, or did they just not understand what to do no way, i doubt that the question is not understood. because if people agreed to occupy certain positions of a high state level, they had to understand the responsibility they bear to society, next, what they could do without understanding what they were doing, this does not exempt them from responsibility, and if you sat down to this chair, then answer, because organize such a team that would help develop certain directions. and most importantly,

there were plans, there were threats, in 2017, the armed forces conducted a simply wonderful, a strategic command staff military game, where all options for the attack of the russian federation on the territory of ukraine were considered , and those options that were carried out by russia were considered, this attack from crimea, this attack from belarus. and proposals were worked out and calculations worked out, which would make it possible to significantly reduce or practically make this influx impossible, if the state, those who are responsible for it from above, were engaged in it, and as for strategic plans again, at certain moments those people who came in in the 19th year to the authorities, these threats were brought to them and they were brought to them... strategic plans for the mobilization deployment

of the armed forces, as well as the deployment and the possibility of transferring the country's economy to military rails, to say that they did not know, it would be lies, the people who are responsible for this reported it and proved all these nuances, whether they wanted to hear them, whether they wanted to do it, the question is different, whether they understood what they were apostatizing from, that is also another question, the question is... that their responsibility has not become less because of that, i am completely with you i agree, mr. general, and well, considering what russia is doing, russia has now maximized the production of its weapons, ammunition, they are switching to military rails, they are reconfiguring production, they are trying to catch up and make more missiles to fire at us,

they're trying to do more... ammunition to secure the front, from what happened between the 24th of february '22 and the 25th of october '23, were there any signs, are we seeing any signs that the country readjusted and also switched to the military railways and factories there began to work differently, well, those that are still working, are there any changes, what do you think, and if not, how, how to interpret it? well, pr and stories that we are waiting for, very often our leaders, you know, say with verbs of unfinished action , we plan, we are waiting, we will, we will do, but we have done and implemented, this is practically inaudible, it is firstly, secondly, that refers to... the determination of those needs that are necessary for the armed

forces in primary, secondary, according to different degrees of importance, so for now, apparently, in first of all, we need shells, i will say that last week, when the offensive began, moskaliv near avdiivka, our intelligence did an excellent job, they timely detected the advance of enemy columns in battalion columns, they gave coordinates in a timely manner, but the number of artillery shells, which was at the disposal of our artillerymen was so small that we were practically not particularly able to call it that, bother, let’s say, if it was planned and there was provision, to destroy or inflict a decent, powerful fire damage the enemy, that's what the problem is, the most important thing in war is not bravery at the level of the first trench of our positions, in war the most important thing is to identify the enemy in advance,

to react in time to his advance, to his location and to inflict a powerful fire damage, with which to disrupt him on... in terms of inflicting damage on the war, the one who strikes first very often wins, and for us, it is important to understand that in the absence of artillery shells, the initiative will not be on our side, but to fight with human flesh, as the russians do, we can't afford that allow us, our resources are not so big anymore, but this question concerns not only artillery shells, er... these er , you know, songs of our managers about thousands and hundreds of thousands of released drones, i would like to ask, maybe you they are being made somewhere, but for some reason we do not see them in the ukrainian sky and do not see them actively destroying russian equipment and personnel. this is also, again, the same

feeding of promises, but without implementation, of our well-wishers. if only in that avdiiv direction again. when the enemy left columns, we were able to raise 1,000 drones there, and even one drone that would have destroyed one piece of equipment or several soldiers, then the offensive would have been disrupted and our battles in the avdiyivka area would have been much weaker in intensity, in addition, a huge problem that exists, which needs to be solved, is the presence of different calibers in the armed forces of ukraine, especially with regard to small arms, and especially in matters of conducting urban battles, in the conditions of urban development, the role of small arms, and the role of mortars of caliber 120, 82- 60, very much is growing strongly, and in many parts we have small arms in caliber 545

, soviet, 5.56 nato, i’m not saying that anymore, in machine gun variants, and this does not add to... the capacity of our logistics, but greatly complicates it, then during these times, from the 14th year, it was already possible to make such a sufficiently powerful decision, to strain certain of our resources, to ask our allies to come to meet us and provide all combat units, those at the front, a single weapon in a single 556 caliber, that would be significant improved our logistics capabilities. so, such independence decisions, no matter how difficult they say, no, they would not be, but we have to solve them, of course, the same applies directly to artillery, we have a huge number of different artillery

systems, and this also imposes certain imprints , well, it is clear, mr. general, that now any state first thinks about itself, about its capabilities, about what, what it has now in the confrontation against the so-called axis of evil, or in the united states of america frankly they are talking about the fact that it will be another three or four years, and maybe the americans will have to fight with the russians and the chinese, because there are such predictions that this will inevitably happen, and this is at the level of the congress of the united states of america, a bipartisan commission is talking about this, considering the fact that the world... is now entering the era of the cold war, in some moments there are hot spots, such as the great war in ukraine and, i understand that in the middle east as well, it is on the verge of what is happening there now,

a big war can start there at any moment, in what way to your ukraine, can't we keep our attention on ourselves and get from the west what we need, now in a difficult situation, what, what should be done? well, let's see how quickly israel reacted to the rush that tried to harm israel , i'm not talking about the missed goal in their goal, as far as the surprise attack is concerned, and in the meantime, they quickly enough refrained from such a blow to the head, their mobilization system... worked perfectly and every reservist arrived on time to their military units and promptly and quickly received weapons, this is the first thing, and secondly, what did they do?

they are due to the fact that they held powerful press conferences at which they showed the atrocities, the arab terrorists , that they committed against the israelis, that we did nothing at all during the last year and a half, you know, ran around a little without detailing, we did not talk about raped women, about murdered children, we did not show these video frames, we did not exacerbate the situation in that the russians are fighting with inhumane methods, if they call it at all war is possible by humane methods, and that the russians are simply at the level of the fascists of the second world war, carrying out such a powerful genocide of the ukrainian people, this did not happen, that is why the world society quickly got used to the russian-ukrainian war, thinking that everything is fine there, i am not saying , that due to improperly organized policy , a huge number of journalists did not return to ukraine, they were not extended their accreditation, we lost those

who could tell the truth about ukraine and convey it in the perspective that was needed to us, this is a huge mistake, and was it a mistake at all, or was it a covert sabotage carried out by certain representatives of the fifth column, or just by bad people, if they are bad people, why are you in these positions? we don't show our problems, we don't tell the world community how powerful our struggle is, and we don't specifically ask for anything, because we need to ask in detail and specifically and for what we are asking, at certain moments we are sometimes looked at, you know, well, understanding that , for example, the fullness of the ukrainian budget and capable armed forces, first of all this is the help of the americans , let's give such an interesting example, when the head of our state

says that 1000 bmp sv-90 will be produced with the help of the swedes, the sv-90 is almost 12 million euros, where to take such an amount to do it, the car itself is super beautiful, the americans will never give even a penny, not even a cent, so that we buy... foreign weapons, not american, but they will gladly and with a long-term perspective give us money on bmpm2 bradly, the price of which is 3.2000, here i bet you on instead of the brigade commanders, i ask you, gentlemen of the brigade command, one bmp for 12 million, or bmp for 3 million, what will you choose, well, of course , the second option, that's right. and yet, everything is too simple in the understanding of the military and

incomprehensible in the understanding of civilians. the kind of things that are on the surface, if we said, again at the same caliber, that we're moving to a nato caliber for small arms and ask us to speed up the process of building factories for the production of american small arms, then investors would be lining up, you know , about it? this is the same example again, the same with cars, to be honest, if you count the huge number of cars that were purchased by our glorious volunteers for the armed forces, then with that money you could build a car factory somewhere not far from the borders of ukraine and powerfully blink powerful pickups in a single brand, on a single engine and on one you you. in the form of fuel, it's, well, everything that lies on the surface, it's called the correct reorganization of the logistics system, er, to deal with,

to make a decision that at this stage we we do it like this, yes, yes, at first it will be difficult, but sometimes it will lead to an excellent result, it is both a saving of money and a simplification of the logistics system, and such examples can be cited in a huge number, and why, why, mr. general, well, forgive me for these numerous , why, why is this not happening, that is, we have people who understand this , who can tell the same president of ukraine, or the head of the president's office, listen, guys, well, look, the war will be long, you said it yourself , that it will be long, that we need, we need our own weapons, that we are not like that let's not hold out for long on someone else's weapons, that we still have to go the way of israel and provide ourselves and a military state, because without this we can no longer live next to our arrogant neighbor, he will not go anywhere, their power will

not go anywhere, our sky will always be open, or... well, partially closed , but it will still be vulnerable to their missiles, who is to tell them that it is enough to dream and that everyone will help you, let's all get together and do it, let's build it, because ukrainians are such a nation that will do what they do others will not do it, well, this can be seen from the first months of the war, when ukrainians stood up for the defense of the war, for the defense of ukraine, which turned into a people's war, you are absolutely right and i will say this, if you count the money from the local and central budgets that were spent not for its intended purpose, and this money will amount to a terrible amount, if you count the money , for example, spent on repairs of bridges in the city of kyiv over the last year, you will be

surprised, we could arm more than one brigade. if you count how many resources we spend on different, different things, and how much during the last year and a half of the war, the ministry of defense simply buried this money in the ground or gave it to someone, it is tens of billions of hryvnias, tens, starting from the purchase of arterial projectiles, mortar mines, anti-personnel mines, anti-tank mines, a huge amount of... tangible property, food supply, these the sums will be terrible, and precisely the correct use of available resources would improve the situation, precisely if the people who are in dispute with the country's leadership did not think about certain interests,

achieving a certain goal, earning money, then the situation has improved, here, the number of exporters who have the right to import certain types of weapons is too small, and they make a lot of money from this, because the price of the projectile sold in europe and the price of the projectile purchased and imported here are very different, and these companies, having no competitors, also make wild money on this, this is just a terrible business for blood , if we opened the gates for these powerful arms companies, then all our specialists, who are special exporters, are just nothing, those who make money on resale , and the price of this one overbuying, well, it is big enough, unfortunately, yes, and they turn a blind eye to it, because it is profitable enough for someone in the leadership to have such a scheme

and system and earn terrible money from it, these people who created the system and allow it to continue to exist are not ukrainians in essence, they are not patriots, they think about their own enrichment and they will not directly do anything, or destroy this system, because it feeds them and makes them multimillionaires in cash equivalents, of course, thank you, mr. general, we must complete our program, don't give me time so much has turned out, we will meet in other broadcasts, this is serhiy krivoonos, major general of the armed forces of ukraine in the reserve, former deputy commander of the special operations forces of the armed forces of ukraine. friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms , we are completing a survey on facebook, we asked you about this, do you trust because you see

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