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[000:00:00;00] 03:30 transcarpathian, one second, there are three more corrections, page 552, yes, the upper right, and there it needs to be stitched, but mine is stitched, it's just right 553, back, back. and they are all taken into account 1618, 1619, 1620, they are partially taken into account, dear colleagues, please tell me, we passed all the amendments that colleagues proposed for consideration, yes, dear
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colleagues, but taking into account. these are all our circumstances, consideration of the agenda items for today is unfortunately not completed, thank you all for your work, now i announce a break in our plenary session, you will be notified in advance about the time and place of its continuation. glory to ukraine. glory. to ukraine, dear people's deputies of ukraine. in accordance with the resolution adopted by us on some issues of organizing the work of the verkhovna rada of ukraine of the 9th convocation in the conditions of martial law, today we continue our plenary session. dear people's deputies, according to the parliamentary tradition , i propose to start the work with the performance of the national anthem of ukraine. pemerla of ukraine
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race. to god, soul and body, we will lay down for our freedom, and show that we are brothers, cossacks , ukraine. everything is god's. dear people's deputies. the 20th month of our victorious struggle is already passing. ukraine is courageously resisting the criminal large-scale attacks of the russian federation. on behalf of the ukrainian parliament, we express our sincere gratitude to the defense forces of ukraine for the protection of our people and liberation for and defense of the native land, for the defense of the democratic european future of ukraine. we thank everyone who is fighting at the front, everyone who is selflessly
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the aggressor. thank you, please sit down, dear people's deputies, according to article 28 of the regulations of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. before at the beginning of consideration of issues, i propose to hold a signal vote. i would like to remind you that when receiving a touch button, you must press the green button for and receive these two buttons at the same time until the end of voting, that is, before the results appear on the scoreboard. dear colleagues, i ask you to take part in the signal vote. 242 for, three against, two abstentions, everything
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is as usual, dear colleagues, i once again appeal to all colleagues to strictly observe the security rules in the verkhovna rada of ukraine and not to spread information about the course of the plenary session of the adopted parliament of decisions earlier an hour after the end of our work, dear people's deputies, the list of issues that was previously agreed upon by the agreed council has been provided to you , let's move on to its consideration, i remind you that we are considering the state budget of ukraine for 2024, dear colleagues, i want to remind you that yesterday we passed all the amendments that related to consideration, now we are moving on to the amendments that will relate to confirmation and for this we need, if this amendment is put to the vote, to gather 226 votes for each amendment, but colleagues, if you don't want to put some amendments
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to the vote, you just tell us, but let's start our work, i think we have somewhere close to hundreds of amendments taken into account, yes, but let's start work, dear colleagues, please, i i understand, the first, the first amendments, yuzhannina's 70th amendment, yes, please, yuzhannina, nina petrivna, dear colleagues, i think that during yesterday 's consideration of the amendments, you were convinced that this is not a defense development budget of the defense complex of ukraine, this is no no military budget, and today, while preparing for the meeting on the amendments for confirmation, i understood why, here they gave out shallow little things to everyone , they made the budget absolutely some kind of descriptive part, making changes to a large number of laws, norms, so that everyone the people who have already been identified in the considered amendments
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voted for this budget today, it is not possible to do so. the 70th amendment speaks about e, the creation or enrollment in the special fund of the 24th year of the remaining funds of the 23rd year from the programs on inland waterways, and infrastructure of inland water transport, it seems to me that you will hear many amendments here about how funds will be collected now, those that thank you, nina petrivna, dear colleagues, the 70th, the position of the committee, briefly, please, amendment number 70, taken into account in part in the mandate of the government for the government to consider the possibility of directing the remaining funds of the road fund, which will be on january 1, 2024, to the public enterprise maritime search and rescue service, what is it doing? this state-owned enterprise ensures
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the activity of the grain corridor at the level of our servicemen, so please support. dear colleagues, the 70th amendment authored by nygulevsky, it is partially taken into account, at the same time, nina petrivna yuzhanina asks to put such a decision on taking into account partially for confirmation, ready to vote, i ask the people's deputies to vote, in the editorial office of the committee, of course. for 246, the decision was made, the amendment remains partially taken into account in the committee's editorial office, nina petrivna, next please, the 103rd amendment, i understand correctly, yes, the 103rd amendment, you understood, the balances are unused balances
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of the road fund instead of the ministry of defense will now be dispersed through various programs, the 103rd amendment surprised me at all, it is the exclusion of the norm regarding the transfer of the national bank of ukraine's profits without an audit opinion. an auditor's opinion is issued once a year after the annual report, and then within three months after the end of the year. i don't know how the ministry of finance misses this amendment, but it limits your opportunities to attract funds from the nbu's profits to the state budget, i ask that you definitely not support such amendments now and not to break during the martial law the rule that allows the state budget to be filled, the ministry of finance to take actions in a timely manner, i think that you will agree with me here and will not support this amendment. please briefly state the committee's position. amendment number 103 is taken into account. at the request of the national bank of ukraine, we have a letter from the head
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of the national bank, which says that the national bank will transfer part of the net profit in a timely manner after the audit conclusions, as required by our international partners, please keep it taken into account, dear colleagues, amendment 103, vasylevska smagliuk author, it is taken into account by the committee, people's deputy kanina asks to confirm this decision regarding inclusion , dear colleagues, i put amendment 103 of vasylevska smagliuk for confirmation, i ask for a vote, he said at the committee.
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for 241, the decision has been made, from the procedure artur volodymyrovych, please, dear ruslan oleksiiovych, we just missed a part, we just went like this, i have a big request, let's go to the table and we will already go through the table, there if not i'm wrong, there is 73 corrections now, but we were just talking about let's go to 73, are you nina petrivna or who will be hancharenko, please, 73. thank you, dear friends, i would like to remind all of us what the state budget of ukraine is. the state budget of ukraine is a tool for fulfilling promises, programs, it is a tool for the development of the state, and it seems to me that now is the time to remember, in fact, with what promises, especially since if it were not for martial law, we would have these days you held parliamentary elections and we would all be summing up by now,
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and what has been done? well, friends, i have in front of me the program of the servant of the people, with which she went to the elections, i just want to understand where this program is reflected in the state budget, i do not see it, so let's introduce a mechanism for recalling deputies who have lost the trust of voters, where is it , as tishchenko and others are sitting further in the hall, how does this work? yes, i do not put it to the vote, thank you, the 73rd amendment, do not put it to the vote, okay, thank you, the right decision, please, the next one, who, who, honcharenko, which is the 80th, the ninth, and the 89th, yes, please, it is partially taken into account, thank you, i will continue, the next item of the program, servant of the people, let's create a mechanism of the people's veto
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for the moment, laws, where is the people's veto, where is it, four years have already passed, the powers of the parliament are more, there should have been elections now , if it weren't for martial law, by the way, let me remind you that elections cannot be held during martial law, no matter how much someone squirms, and the country must be focused on one thing, either on victory over the enemy, or on victory in the elections, we have to be focused. on the victory over the enemy, but where this promise has been fulfilled, in the future, we will return the responsibility of the officials for illegal enrichment, who among us is punished for this, show us one person who was punished for illegal enrichment, thank you. oleksiy oleksiyovych, if possible, i answered you. oleksiy oleksiyovych, let 's go ahead with the amendments, but let me answer the questions you asked. to you, regarding the people's veto, i want
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to remind you that one of the first laws that was voted in this council was the law on all-ukrainian referendum, and it is there that the possibility of imposing a popular veto on legislative initiatives is foreseen, so this promise will be fulfilled, put a checkmark there. the second thing that concerns illegal enrichment, i want to remind you that the constitutional court just abolished similar norms and it was this council that returned all issues related to illegal enrichment, put a checkmark there, in the future so that, i understand, that you are interested in getting acquainted with the program, but let's go directly to the essence of the amendments. i think that it will be more correct, this is how nina petrovna did it. please, dear colleagues. nina petrivna yuzhanina, please tell me the number, please, right away. 133 amendment, please, i did not understand your position,
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why have you now separated the joint work, the nbu and the ministry of finance, and now they will not be friends with each other according to the 103rd amendment, in the 133rd there is an exception. regarding the payment of dividends by oil and gas structures, at least 90%. i do not understand at all, and how can you cancel this norm now, you are again deceiving when you say that all resources are concentrated now in order to replenish the state budget, this is a state structure, the rules were adopted regarding the deduction of dividends, the state budget, what has changed, please explain the 133rd amendment. please, what is the position of the committee on the 133rd amendment? amendment 133 does not apply to the number of dividends that will be deducted from the subsidiaries of national nac-naftogaz of ukraine. she says that we are instructing the government
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to review the expediency of payment in 2024 by subsidiaries of nac-naftogaz of ukraine dividends directly to the state budget, because our colleagues in the hall, in particular the voice faction, for example, have a different vision regarding the settlement of this issue, we involve all factions in the democratic discussion of the state budget. thanks, no, don't push it, okay? and the next one, please, nina petrovna, what number, tell me? 135 is related to the same issue, ms. roxelana, well, be honest. you attract, but you hear only those you need here in the voting hall, i tried to convey my own opinion to you at the working groups of the committee. if you think she didn't deserve attention, i don't think so, and neither do most people who know me and how i work, but here you
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go again to the government commission, i used to think that the government commission was nothing, for in the main they are never taken to advantage. proposals of people's deputies, but in this case we will make sure that this norm will be changed, because now it is so profitable for someone, and not for the state budget, i am categorically against such assignments of the government, i want the committee to professionally understand the initiatives that are supported, instead of going for approval for the votes in this hall, you can’t do that, think, because we have to stay alive, the position of the committee , in short, please, you are not... that’s right, just the explanation of the committee, please, it’s the same amendment, it says exactly the same as in amendment number 133, it is partially taken into account, thank you, please, nina petrivna, who is next, who is goncharenko, amendment number, please tell me, thank you,
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amendment number, amendment number 147, please, so this is an important unconditional amendment, which says: about special fund funds for the purchase of high-value medical equipment to be directed to the purchase of medicines, this is a very necessary thing, because it is clear to us that today we must support both this and the issue of our wounded, the purchase of medicines, this is the issue of treatment for serious diseases, this is very necessary, of course i also i can't help but react to what i heard, here you are, you said that you put a check mark, i will put a check mark, when the people's veto... which you said will be applied at least once, and a check mark for illegal i will consider enrichment when at least once someone suffers a punishment, because we see how the servants of the people here buy cars, mansions, some expensive things, i have never seen anyone suffer a punishment, so one should
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not put a check mark that the paper was accepted, but when someone was put in prison, thank you, thank you, i understand that you read the program of the party that went to the parliament, then i want to remind you that the parliament, its... main task is precisely to adopt these acts, which are mentioned in program, so check the box again. next, please, oleksiy oleksiiovych, what is the number of the amendment? the next amendment is 152, it is of a technical and legal nature, but of course this amendment also tells us that the state budget of ukraine, and its adoption for the next year, is not happening in the way it should happen, namely, that i have i mean, today, it seems to me, every person understands the priorities that exist in the state, this is victory in the war, and this is the survival of those people and those groups for whom it is very difficult to survive until this..., that is, there must be a social and
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war, everything else must be put away the national telethon, which is still here, the construction of roads, which is still here, endless babies who are only engaged in racketeering and attacks on businesses, which is still here, all this should not be, that's what i want to say, and that's what i should would be our budget, thank you. thank you, is there a need for the committee to speak? there is none. thank you, dear colleagues, next, who? nina petrivna, immediately announce the number of the amendment, 162 amendment, you, please understand when there is a proposal to direct funds from the fund, liquidation, consequences, also to construction, repair health care institutions to provide medical and rehabilitation assistance to persons injured as a result of armed aggression, seems like a good goal.
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but i don't understand how we then formed directions for the use of the fund for the liquidation of the consequences of russian aggression, why we did not take it into account then, and now it turns out when we take away from local budgets the pdf entirely for the military, when we understand that there will be no funds at all for that , to carry out all these works, let's enter so that this is spent from the total cost, of the general fund, which... globally solves the problem of liquidation of the consequences of russian aggression, therefore you are doing such a favor by sewing up such allegedly positive norms, the position of the committee, please, this amendment is taken into account, it was also taken into account this year, according to our extreme adopted the draft law on the budget 10:38 and it... really complements the directions of using the funds of the fund for liquidation of the consequences of armed aggression in the direction of construction and repair
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of destroyed institutions, health care, as well as the provision of rehabilitation assistance to the victims of armed aggression, thank you, don't insist, let's move on, next , nina petrivna, chito goncharenko, please , the next amendment 16 54 to the state budget for 2024, look, the funds of the consequences liquidation fund in exceptional cases can be directed to providing for the needs of the defense sector, it is correct, it is necessary, but i have a question, and why only in exceptional cases, what is the fund in general, here we are talking about the liquidation of the consequences of armed aggression, it is obvious that until we have defeated the enemy and missiles fall on heads, well, what can we eliminate when we don’t have enough funds for drones, when we don’t have enough funds for weapons , well, what are the consequences of armed aggression, let ’s first defeat armed aggression, stop
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it, and then we will definitely rebuild, which does it make sense to rebuild something that can be destroyed again at any moment tomorrow, or is it simply necessary to get the opportunity to get a return on budget money, well, it is probably not the one, not the task that we have to set before ourselves today, so the idea should be, to be this fund has completely gone to overcome, please, if you want to react, this amendment is taken into account, it duplicates the norm that is in the 2023 budget, and it says that the funds of the liquidation fund can be directed to defense needs, it should remain taken into account, well, it is taken into account partly just for the record, no insistence. please, petrivna, amendment number, amendment 167, ms. roksolana, well, not everything can be decided in
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the law on the state budget, it is the main budget breakdown of income and expenses, and you have pushed here now the changes to all the legislation that you need, and therefore i am categorically against such approaches. 167 amendment of the additional legislative regulation of the procedure for spending funds of the liquidation fund at the expense of proceeds from actions. from the governments of foreign countries and so on, it is really a necessary thing, but exactly when you are instructing the government that you want to make changes to the procedure for using the funds of the liquidation of consequences fund, or whatever you want, what is the purpose of taking into account all these amendments without separate legislation, i.e. without entering a special law of changes, thank you, don't... put it this way, please, the next amendment, who will it be, honcharenko, the number of the amendment,
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the next amendment is 170, so it is important. very thing, we are being offered a de facto budget in which everything will be distributed manually, by the way, our main scientific expert department of the verkhovna rada also paid attention to it, for example, educational subvention, let something be distributed there manually, that's what we say, that it is necessary for the verkhovna rada to do, as it should be according to the law, so that all this is not done manually, not by the government, which we don’t see here, almost never, but so that it is done the way it should be, supreme... by the council of ukraine and then we will see, maybe we will find reserves for the return of 30ka, maybe we will find reserves for in order to pay decent money to our military, maybe we will find other reserves, when all this will not be done manually by the government, but as it should be directly drawn up, by the verkhovna rada of ukraine, all committees and discussions have been passed, not in a black
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box, but openly before people in the parliament, i do not insist, thank you. thank you, oleksii oleksiyovych, the next amendment, goncharenko, please, which number is the next amendment 172, so it also has a technical and legal nature, but i would like to draw your attention to how, i repeat, priorities should be built, that is, how this budget should have been written so that it wouldn't be like this, you know, you criticize, but you don't propose, you propose, so they took everything. what is necessary, they took our budget, divided it into two parts, the first is social welfare, well, it is not possible, we understand, it is not possible to raise a child for uah 860 per month, well, it is impossible, well, any a person knows this, except for those who advise to buy cheaper diapers, so every person knows this, so they added a pension, added, looked at emergency medical care,
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added a nurse, a teacher, then everything else went to the army for the war. period, that's it, this is the country's budget, no marathons, no serials, no drums, nothing, just like that, and then it would be a budget, don't insist, yes, thank you, the next amendment, nina petrovna, a southerner, please, 184- that amendment, i want you to explain to me what you agreed there among yourselves when you exclude from article 34 that to the implementation of support for tag-producer farmers through the ukrainian state farm support fund, what is the government's mandate for, where will this support under other programs go, or what did they decide to do, why did they exclude the long-standing norm of support, including small sg producers , what approaches are you currently planning
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to support gas producers? rukslana andriivna, please, if you wish, this norm appeared in the budget for the first time this year, it is article 34. we, as the budget committee, have questions about the wording of this norm, so that there is a decision of the constitutional court , which says that the norms included in the state budget are valid for one year, while the government is under article 34, which states that it will be valid until the end of martial law. we are instructing the government to revise this part and apply it exclusively only during the period of validity of the law on the state budget, that is, until december 31, 2024 . don't insist, okay? thank you, please,
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next, goncharenko, please, thank you, 180. correction, this is about, this is the exclusion of the norm regarding entry into the state agrarian register information about the value of their agricultural products. friends, what is very important, this norm and this amendment is about tells us about business, in this case, about agricultural business and certain aspects of its work. we are told again in the budget that there is money for business support. friends, it makes no sense. with one hand , it seems, to give something to the business, and with the other hand to launch there a bep, a tax, which storms and destroys this business, because it looks like you are going to give support to your loved ones, everyone else milking already and tearing off the skin and horns and tearing off the hooves, but this is not this is not economic policy, economic policy during the war is very simple, do not touch those who give to
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