[000:00:00;00] it is extremely important, well, it is extremely important, today we started by talking about the pre-election program of the servant of the people, there was one more point, the salary of all educators is at least three minimum salaries, today the minimum salary is 6,700, well, that is, if this program of the servant of the people, it our ruling party today, because with all due respect, you say the anti-war coalition, well, we have a monomajority, in reality you decide everything yourself, then we should have had an educator's salary. less than uah 20,100, but where are they, where are the salaries of educators in this amount? are they simply not there? is, that was the 716 amendment, what's next? honcharenko, amendment number. the next amendment is the 724th. and yes, indeed, we do not have 2,000 hryvnias for the salary of educators, but how much do we have? friends, as much as we have, sometimes it is a shame

to say, we have a salary. a teacher in a kindergarten can probably pay 4 and 5,000 uah per month, again 4-5,000 uah per month, this is nothing, it is impossible to live on this money, to work, well, it is obvious that finding those who are ready and willing to work it is very difficult for such a salary, well, it shouldn't be like that, why when we say that education is a priority, that these are our children, and by the way, this is also the issue of the return of ukrainians: abroad, in order for a family to return abroad, it must know that it has a place to send the child to kindergarten, that there is a person there who will take care of her, but for 4-5,000 hryvnias, well, this, well, well, this is nothing, so our task here is to instruct the government to look for opportunities to raise it at least a little, even during our difficult times, so thank you, it was

720 the fourth, yes please, and what is the next one? 726 honcharenko, please, yes, 700, here a number of amendments on education, 726 says the same thing, maybe mr. ruslan, so that this one, here 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, up to 70, 752, maybe there are eight amendments on these, to me, that 6 minutes and i 'll just talk about everything important, the fact is that here, let's give this one, then artur volodymyrovych, and then we'll talk. you say, that means let's go on this one, so it's 726, it's education again, and i want to emphasize this issue again, that today, when we talk about education, it's a question not only directly of educators, it's a question of our survival, it there is a question of survival of the nation, that is the issue of giving birth to children who will have a place to study is what we need today, that's why the salary of

an educator cannot be like this, by the way, for others who... you know, who else in our country receives 4-500 hryvnias , conductors in ukrzaliznytsia, who transport the whole country and save it, thank you, please, next 727, 728 gerasimov, two minutes, please , yes, thank you, dear colleagues, i just very briefly wanted everyone to listen to what i will say now about this budget, so we understand that now is a large-scale invasion, but nevertheless, we must prepare documents more professionally. first, this budget continues the practice of suspending the effective acts of legislation that contradicts the legal positions of the constitutional court of ukraine, that is, you understand, the law on the state budget, instead of regulating only agreements and expenditures, begins to interfere with other legal acts, this is its one of the main disadvantages. the second story is very important, it is this budget that contains

a large number of provisions. just listen so you know what you will or won't vote for, ee from a series of provisions that lead to a significant violation of the parameters of the country's debt security and the maximization of debt risks in the medium and long term, and this is not a question that we take on debt, no, this is another issue that is completely lacking, at least a tentative strategy or plan of actions and measures, regarding the settlement of optimization issues debt strategy and ensuring debt security, that is, we are in debt. but now the government is not thinking at all about what, but at the expense of what and how these debts will be returned. the next important story is precisely this budget law, the verkhovna rada for some reason, for some reason, i decided to hand over the powers to the government again. for example, the conditions for establishing the level of social protection for pensioners, military personnel, residents of chornobyl, etc. and you know, the question is

, what is it. the constitution shows, because according to the constitution these powers belong to the verkhovna rada of ukraine, why should they be given to the cabinet of ministers, to be honest, i don't know, that's what i'm telling you. about the fundamental shortcomings of this document, which frankly should be corrected, thank you very much for your attention, thank you artur volodymyrovych, please, next, who will be goncharenko, the number of the amendment, so ruslan oleksiyovych, first, there are five amendments, according to education, can i take four minutes for these five amendments and that's it, tell me the numbers, 736, 739, 741, 743, 752. let's go, thank you, four minutes, please start , thank you, so this is about education, friends, well, i asked people to write to me, that's how much today, so you know, it was a specific conversation, moreover,

what do we have today, 6,700 is the minimum salary, our teacher receives today, they write to me 4,800, our teacher receives 6,200, well it is less than... the minimum wage, because they are, as it were, not at the full rate , but there is no full rate, all this is artificially reduced so that people do not have to pay money, well, how is it, well, it is wrong, that is, it works, let's, let's outline , it turns out, let's outline the trajectory of a person who decided to become a teacher, first she studies at a university, receives a housing scholarship , uah 1200, for example, well, it is clear that this is about impossible, then she becomes a teacher, everything is over, everything goes into adulthood, she becomes teacher, then he begins to receive some 5, 4, 6,000 uah, works for 10 years

, people write to me, teacher, higher category, 10 years of experience, begins to receive 7,600, 7,600 uah, friends, 7,600, well, well, it shouldn't be like that. once again, the director of the rada tv channel, almost uah 100,000, a teacher with 10 years of experience, uah 7,600, that’s all, he continues to work, he works, and then the time for a pension comes and he retires, what kind of pension, two, 2,200, 2,500, 2,800, well, 3,000 uah , how can an elderly person live on this money, buy medicine, buy food, well, it's impossible, that is? we we immediately outline the trajectory for the future for a person who wants to be a teacher, a pedagogue, the most important work that raises our children, as bismarck said, that a great germany

was not created by him, not by the kaiser, but by a german teacher who will create a great ukraine, apart from our soldiers, who defend it, it is a teacher who will teach these ukrainians, and we give the teacher a trajectory. from begging through poverty to begging, this is the trajectory that we outline for the teacher today with this budget, well , it's not fair, it shouldn't be like that, they promised, i'm silent about the $4,000 salary, it was still during the presidential election, it sounded from the president's faction, by the way, mr. babak, who voiced it, was the staff, here he is sitting here with us, the chairman of the committee, respectively, can he say when the $4,000 salary will be in? well, in the party program there was at least three times the minimum wage, that is, it is 20,000 today, but there are none, and this is a huge problem, the same applies to a number of other industries, the national railway, the same, medical

care, we are talking about this today, i hope that let's talk, but, by the way, the following edits will be about health care, but the important thing is, well, let's review our priorities, let's do it. and if we can't, well, this is also an objective reality, the war, the economy is destroyed, everything is difficult, well , then let's honestly go to the people and say, look, this is the reality, there is so much money in the state, and so much is given to us by our external partners, we give this to the army, we divide everything else as best we can among education, culture, health care, well , that's enough, then it will be an honest conversation, but in such an honest conversation then there will be no money. on national telethon, there will be no money for clear roads and funds to give to some of their own. thank you, please, what are the next amendments

, please, who is goncharenko, amendment number, the following amendments are 789, 791, 798, 801, four amendments, if possible for three minutes, 789, 791, 798. and 801, three minutes, please, three minutes , please, thank you, it's come to health care, friends, an extremely important direction that... we have, well, in general, i don't know what can be said today, what should be today task to the state, well, so objectively, let's be honest and frank, this is a matter of strategy, we are a nation of 30 people, which today is at war with a nation of 150 million people, they can give us, and thank god, they give us weapons, they give us money, no one will give us people, no one is going to us: not here

a german will come to fight for ukraine, an american, a frenchman, a portuguese will not come here, well, there are individual volunteers, we are very grateful to them, but we understand, these are units, that is, it is possible, we pull it out with our people, this is the most terrible price, this is the most difficult task , what it means for us, it means what has priority stand human life, in everything, in the planning of military operations, human life. infantry units cannot simply break through changing fields, because we understand the terrible cost of this, we understand, that is, in everything , human life must be number one, save the warrior, save the military, save health, save through the air defense system of civilians, and certainly, health care, which will heal those who, god forbid , are injured, will preserve their health, a separate topic is homogeneity. increasing

the birth rate, and this cannot be without an increase in child benefits, and uah 860, which is absolutely, well, it's just nothing, well, nothing , well, it's really impossible for a child to buy anything for it in reality, and we don't solve it, and therefore health care should be a priority for us , the same, and thirdly, i am talking about people, because today, ukraine loses people three times a day on... the front and in the rear as a result of russian attacks, from the fact that people are not born, because the birth rate has fallen, and from the fact that that people left ukraine and every day they assimilate there, stay, and there is less chance that they will return therefore, our task is to create all the conditions, and health care is one of them, in order to save the human potential of ukraine. this is the number one issue for us, the most important one, and that means security.

what we can should be invested in this industry, and what we have, we have a nurse's salary of four, 5-6,000 hryvnias, well, it's impossible, well, it's unrealistic, well, it's unrealistic to live simply on this money, we have an emergency medical assistance, which leaves with the rescuers, but receives much less, goes on arrivals for anything and receives pennies, well, it shouldn't be like that. thank you, please, what is the next number, thank you, next, next edit 809, this is also health care, i will continue, emergency medical care, i just , well, i know this topic, i worked in emergency medical care, it is an extremely difficult job, this work, well, it's difficult, it's like this, it's stress, it's the most difficult work, it's the front line. you know, as they say , there are soldiers who are at zero, there are soldiers who are in the rear, we

respect everyone, but it is obvious that the risks and complexity of those who are at zero are completely different, emergency medical care is at zero, emergency medical care is medics who are on the front line, well, realistically, that is, it is every day, stress, struggle, and the salaries that emergency medical workers have today, well, this, well, this is a shame, this it's a shame, but it's a shame even for me to call it now in the hall, because these people can receive 8, 9, 10,000 uah salary there, they should be de facto equated with military personnel, who are in the rear, next oleksiy oleksiyovych, number, next 811 , this is also health care, friends, and continuing this

topic, we say, yes, it is important, yes, the topic is emergency care, we have to deal with it directly, but the same applies, friends, to the training of medical personnel, because what we have to prepare, look at the ukrainian doctors today, and by the way, do not scare ukrainian doctors with some foolishness, when some of our activists go out and start to tell that tomorrow we will put women, doctors, on the register somewhere and we will not let them go abroad, it just causes panic, and i want to appeal, say, well, let's not scare them. then we want all our female doctors to leave from the country, so that they leave us and go to poland to find a life in slovakia, in romania, well

, let's say it once and for all, no one is going to women, then oleksiy oleksivych, please, number 819, it is the last one in terms of security expenses healthy i just want to finish the thought: let's all in the verkhovna rada of ukraine say, calm down, women, doctors, don't worry , no one is going to limit your rights, no one is going to stop you, no one, because we need these women doctors to work in ukraine, so that they don't were worried that someone would come and stop them, in general , let's say, let's call a spade a spade, if we... want to ask, this is an important issue of changes, rotations, demobilization, men, so let's talk about it, that all men have to go through through a certain way that those men who are on the front today, they can't be there all the time, and they have to be replaced by others, men, sooner or later it

has to happen, and it's a fair conversation, but let's not touch the women and let's not destroy the security health and this. please which one the next number? 856, we have come to social politics, an extremely important direction, so look, friends, i want to draw your attention to social politics and to some numbers that are actually shocking, once again the shocking numbers will be heard now, i am here, the people's deputies of ukraine are present, either please, listen. something that may surprise you, i'm sure you don't know this, you know what the level of extra payment is for a single disabled person to take care of him, well, that is, there is a category of single disabled people there of the first group, you know how much they are paid extra for they looked for care, well, so that someone can

take care of them a little, uah 50 per month, i am not mistaken in anything now, uah 50 per month. well, don’t you all care about this, friends, well, 50 uah per month, well, tell me, well, what is it, well, you spend on coffee, your coffee is much more expensive, 50 uah per month, next oleksiy oleksiyovych, please, number, next amendment 871, so, once again, i named a specific figure, 50 g per month, we must urgently correct this figure, urgently, if you and i do not do it, and such figures are different, for the care of the disabled person, for the payment of the disabled person, well, these people will not live to see our victory , well, they will not live, well, because it did not work out for two or three weeks, they will not live as long as it takes, because

they cannot survive on this, it is impossible, therefore we should be asked the question of the mini, well, the subsistence minimum. and say, well, we can’t, if we already take a person to support the state, well, let’s pay him so that he at least survives this, yes, very poor, yes, maybe he lived, well, but there are numbers that cannot be to live, well, it is simply physically impossible live, if they do not have a relative, if their neighbors do not help them, then this person will simply die. oleksii oleksiiovych, i'm just forced to make a verbal remark to you, since we don't have any. we have people with disabilities, please express yourself correctly, please, with respect to them , thank you, please continue, honcharenko, number of the amendment, thank you, thank you, 877 amendment, dear ms. elena, you are right, you are absolutely right , that is necessary with great respect, i have only

one question for you, mrs. elena, and 50 hryvnia surcharge for the month is respect, you know, we, let's, when we say the word respect, it should be reflected in the budget, the budget of the 24th year should be a budget of respect, to the serviceman, first of all, to the members of their families, to to a person with a disability, thank you, to our nurse, to the teacher, respect, and here there is a lot of disrespect, and that is why we have to talk about it, and i would like us to show this respect not... glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, give respect to the heroes we will give it to everyone else first. the next edit is 924 we skip it, and we can immediately edit 955. thank you. now we are skipping the 924th, i am crossing out 920, which is 55, 955, please, so

increase the expenditures of the geological service of the subsoil by uah 62 million. friends, this is not the time, it is not the time, with all due respect to the state service of geology of the subsurface, today is the time to give uah 62 million to the armed forces of ukraine. someone can say this in terms of scale. of the budget, well, what is 62 million uah, friends, 62 million uah, 62 million uah, that 's almost 2 million dollars, that's friends, about, well, about 100 anti-drone guns, for example, for example, or how many drones, well, there are hundreds of drones with which we can provide our military, do not rely on the ministry of volunteers, do not rely on ukr-volunteer-prom, give this army, buy them weapons and save their lives. thank you,

please, the next number, please, yuzhanina, the correction number. friends, well, we will put 972 to the vote, the 980th. i just want to object, because here some speakers from the podium, not today, but the other day, talked about what she started. election campaign without announcing elections, so these amendments are just right about this, amendment 980 - to increase expenditures on the chernobyl nuclear power plant by 654 million, including labor wages by 289 million. i would ask the people's deputies, who are going to run for office in the next convocation, not to bribe the voters with such cheap offers, because it was necessary at the beginning of a large-scale invasion not to do wrong things and not to frame your citizens in order

to be elected in the next convocation, so such amendments just make me wonder, where were you before and what is happening now that in chernobyl, thank you, it was the 980th, the next one, please, which one, please, nina petrivna, 986, please, it seems that some kind of government mandated a new program for the execution of court decisions of 1 million, something so ridiculous and absurd, and this is an amendment from the apc committee, with great respect for this, but i want to understand what it is, uah 1 million for a new program for the execution of court decisions, for this, for the implementation of court decisions made by ordinary employees of departments and ministries, we need more some extra money, without understanding

where you are going to spend these funds, of course there are objections and surprises regarding such amendments, thank you, please, who will be the next one, nina petrivna, honcharenko, please, oleksiy oleksiyovych, the next one, our next one is amendment 980. we are also talking about increasing expenditures, increasing expenditures, we, and we have already passed it, but excuse me, 980 , excuse me, we have the next one, what is it, we finished it at 986 , thank you very much, the next one is 1047, a new mini-infrastructure program, financial support of 122.5 million hryvnias. friends, well, again i return to the issue of priorities, of course mini-infrastructure is important, but uah 122 million are very important in order to give them to our military today, in order to purchase weapons, and that's why, i repeat,

the budget, the honest budget of the country, war, welfare, full stop, once again, because there are three components, war , social worker, period, this should be the slogan of the budget for the next year, while the war is going on. please, what number, next, it was 1047, next honcharenko, next, 1061, salary increase for the bureau of investigation of aviation events. friends, i don't understand at all, to be honest, maybe they will give us some explanation this time, we don't have any salary increase for the bureau of investigation of aviation events, we don't fly here. airplanes, well, civil aviation does not fly, military aviation, as i understand it, there are other investigations going on there, what we want to investigate, who we want to increase

the salary of, what events, well, god forbid that... we finally have aviation working, all about we dream of it, but today it is not there, planes do not fly over ukraine, civil aviation, maybe they will give us some explanation, 6 million uah is 6 million uah, this is money for cars again, for what is necessary for our military, then we can spend on it, i would like to hear an explanation on this amendment, thank you, thank you, please, dear colleagues, please, i have a request, now two more amendments will be without a vote, and then we will move on to amendments, on which a vote of 226 people will be required, i ask the people's deputies to take their seats, because in literally two or three minutes we will go to the vote, i hope it will be effective,

23 amendments will be submitted for confirmation, where 226 votes must be gathered. and after that we vote for the draft budget in the first reading for 2024, everything is clear to everyone, dear colleagues, please, oleksiy oleksiyovych, what is the next amendment, two more amendments and let's move on to those we missed, yes, but i have a big request, after all , i did not insist, but on this amendment i will speak now, i really want to hear the position of the committee and all the same explanations, the next amendment is 1094, an increase in the salary for involved experts, from the selection of youth projects by uah 1.7 million, once again, an increase salaries for involved experts from selection of youth projects , we fell from a tree, or what happened to us, what are the salaries of experts on youth projects, from selection,

it is not not not for the youth, it is for some experts, well it is. some of us, some of us investigate aviation incidents, when our aviation does not fly in the sky, others select youth projects, when young people are killed and young people fight at the front, well, i am not something at all , i am lost, if you can, the position of the committee, amendment 1094, it instructs the government to consider making provision under the program of the ministry of youth for the implementation of the measures of the youth policy of additional expenses, or not to provide if such funds are not found in the state budget. oleksiy oleksiyovych, please continue, revision number,

thank you, thank you, revision 11:15, this is the last revision. which i am raising now, i do not see the point further, friends, but i want to draw attention , ms. roxelano, why even instruct the government to consider this possibility, maybe we instruct the government to consider the possibility of giving everything to the army, to drones, to anti-drones, to ammunition, and not for the salaries of experts on the selection of youth projects, but amendment 1115, this is an increase in expenses for the state audit service. of military manufacturers, the same one that blocked the production, kabeluch, kabeluch, the one who created neptune, another super-ukrainian weapon, groans, cries, stop these crazy state audit services, or maybe russian agents who want to stop our enterprise, and we them instead,

to stop them, we give them even more money , let's give them... that's it, dear colleagues, please take your seats, invite the deputies to the hall, please, i understand, now there will be amendments that will be put to the vote, according to the list, nina petrivna , you will voice them, yes, invite the deputies to the hall, please, nina yuzhanina, if possible, i will immediately call the numbers the same as mine so that we do not get confused, 190 amendment, correct. please see 190, 194, 195 and 196, they touch on the same issue , i can take three minutes instead of four amendments, but let's put all four to the vote, please 190, 194, 195, 196, please , dear colleagues, i wanted you everyone has heard and understood when we talk about