that the beginning of a ground operation in general will be a rubicon for israel. very dramatic, i would even say very tragic, because today we have two tasks before us. the first - it will destroy the power of hamas in gaza, the second - it will return our hostages. and on the very first day, on the second day of the war, benjamin netanyahu announced these two goals. but now we...' understand that it was very ambitious, and these two goals are either, at the moment when we start a ground operation, there is a very high probability that most of the hostages will die, if we follow the path of releasing the hostages during the negotiations, then, accordingly, the first condition of hamas will be the cessation of hostilities and the provision of personal security guarantees to the leaders of hamas, the cessation of...

point-blank liquidations from the air, that is why here it turns out, that we are like this between two benches, one foot on one , the other foot on the other bench, we have to choose some intermediate option, that is, it seems that this is not a ground operation yet, according to the understanding, that to certain scale and i hope hamas will not shoot hostages , hostages are still... for them too valuable an asset for further bargaining, on the other hand, hamas is constantly trying to manipulate israel, to manipulate public opinion in israel, they constantly throw some rumors that they are ready for some kind of negotiations , in particular, the last such intrusion was that allegedly hamas is ready to release five hostages in exchange for a 5-day humanitarian ceasefire, and after ... several days

of such negotiations through intermediaries israel stated that this is simply hamas taking time, that these are absolutely fruitless negotiations, therefore, this operation has begun, i understand that it has one more meaning, this pressure on hamas, to show them that we are not up for all this nonsense we buy, if he wants serious negotiations on the release of the hostages, then let him prove his intentions, and... you see, this is a tricky game going on here. israel has not yet chosen which side they will jump to, either in the direction of a ground operation and the destruction of hamas, or in the direction of negotiations and the release of the hostages, but if you look at it outside of this humanitarian component, then of course , in the interests of israel, in any interests of israel, it is the overthrow of the power of hamas, because the middle east, and where do we have: until now there are very many

enemies, if we let's end it with negotiations, he clearly considers it as the fact that israel is weak, we are now entering a whole series of endless wars and conflicts and terrorist wars, i don't even doubt that the next one will be hizbollah, all this will be repeated in a circle, see, look, i would like to ask such a question, have you criticized the government and the military? and the intelligence of the authorities on october 7 and the eighth and the 9th, that they did not expect this attack and so on and so on, what you are telling now shows that on the mountain, in the military, civilian, israeli establishment, it is also up to no good ready, because you are telling me, well, i am sitting here in lviv and thinking, if i were netanyahu, i would say , so let's... so these people are preparing

the worst scenario, what do we do, how do the hostages get in, how in how does it work for us? it works for us, and these are negotiating, smiling, hamas, great, judea samaria, and they too, this is a separate task, and here the task of fighting a tough enemy, and we need to know where these dungeons are. wherever they can, our agents should tell us where they can keep these hostages, where they have warehouses, where they have this, where they have that, so that there are not these thoughts that you are talking about, that netanyahu has in his head on the one hand , on the other hand, you need to have a plan for both one side and the other side, what do you say, well, that’s probably the case in israel is a sane person, but in real israel it is not like that

, we have criticized our government very much for the fact that they are never ready for anything, some departments of officials sit around, draw up different plans, programs and protocols for different cases life, then... there is no such thing, no one knows anything about it, it’s all outdated, it ’s all overgrown, it always takes us by surprise, but the situation is really extraordinary, no, the army certainly has its own developments, but it can be said that from experience, yes, we are very much, yes, eh, still we draw some conclusions from the experience of the past, israel has never forcibly removed its hostages from gaza, from jews, from samaria, it has always taken them alive, dead, it has always taken them, it has always found them, it has always taken them out of gaza, there is no, although, if there are many hostages, then it can be assumed that they were divided into different groups, and some, some of these groups will be freed in the course of a ground operation, undoubtedly, but i

say again, the probability that the greater part of them will die, the probability that most of them will die, let's say this, with us you just understand , for dlya this is a giant giant elephant, this is a problem that is bigger than the whole of israel, today, the families of people who are in captivity in gaza, they appear in all , they are in all television studios, they appear on all radio channels, they shout, they demand that the government, first of all , release the hostages at any cost, no matter what the cost, and then think about what to do with this political crisis, more and more israelis, in general, them support on their side, although it will certainly be very bad for our country, from the very beginning we were not able to correctly assess the magnitude of this problem, because

the first emotional reaction we will show them now, we will show them now that they will remember for life, but it came very soon... and we understand that hostages change everything, the problem of hostages is unlikely to change everything , it will be possible to defeat hamas and free the hostages, if we talk again about the experience of the past, well, with us, if you remember the story of gilad shalit, one israeli soldier was exchanged for 1,040 terrorists, so if we were to talk about the script, well, it’s possible directly... even skip these negotiations, except for small details, i’m right here on the maps for you now i will explain, uh, the cessation, the cessation of the war on the part of israel, the personal guarantee of security to the leaders of hamas , the cessation of point liquidations, hamas

releases civilian women, children, the elderly, israel gives a guarantee account, hamas promises some kind of thin, like 2-3 years they they will sit peacefully, and then... excruciating negotiations begin about the exchange of all the remaining hostages, because there are soldiers there, there is even a whole general there, and now they will exchange the soldiers for their terrorists. there are about 10,000 terrorists in israeli prisons who were arrested for terrorist activities, including with blood on their hands, and accordingly, as was the case in all previous exchanges, these terrorists will have to return to their homes, that is , not to be sent there them to the gas sector, where the wall stands and... such a critical number of terrorists who, except for fighting israel , do not know how to do anything in life, they will not go to plow bread and

they will not go, i do not know the old man of the parking lot, of course they will all go to terror, israel is bathed in blood, israel will have to prepare for new warriors, because the middle east ... this is absolutely clear as israel's weakness, it means that we are waiting for long years of the deepest crisis, here, but there is still no clear answer here, and i don't i would like to be in the place of netanyahu, who he will have to accept this decision, he has the entire state of israel on one side, and 229 people on the other. thank you very much, svi zilber, an israeli journalist was in touch with us, yes, it is true that... mr. zilber said, i support it, because it is actually, to translate it very simply, it is a war of savagery against civilization, not even barbarism, barbarism is already a higher level , but this is savagery, this is a pre-barbaric state of affairs,

and that's exactly what it is, and how to organize it is very difficult, i didn't want to be there either prime minister netanyahu, now you will see an interview, first there will be an advertisement. then an interview with a person who interviews the occupiers, what is he, he is 50, 50, 50 people were interviewed, these are people who... fought for the russian federation, they are not collaborators, these are russians, and this is his impression, now there will be an advertisement, then a 17-minute interview, i think this interview must be very interesting, because it is really, well, few of us have climbed into the heads of these occupiers, these russians, please look at these stairs, my legs can't walk anymore, wait, i'll catch up, i'm not healthy,

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from the flow of news coming from everywhere, we single out the most important ones. the world is closely watching whether there will be weapons for ukraine and which ones what the russian occupiers are whispering about behind the commanders' backs. news, summaries of the week - this is a review of only important events, significant and reliable events. these are analytics, fact-checking, professional comments. about this and much more in today's issue. about important downtime. available to all viewers, congratulations, in the studio of iryna koval, and this is the summary of the week on the espresso tv channel. news, summaries of the week, every saturday at 21:00 on espresso. you interrogate half-borns, right? including. and what, what other duties do you have, what can you say? probably nothing else like you

call? malanov, artem oleksandrovych, where are you from? i come from the samur region, blagoveshchensky city, how old are you? 35 years old, the war of 2014 caught me when i was still at school, and i was in the senior classes of the school, and at that time it was such an event that deeply affected me personally, it influenced the formation of my personality and worldview. from the maidan events to the occupation of crimea. i remember the spring of 2014 very well, i remember the mood of the people around me very well.

there was a lot of it, but there was a lot of pressure, even from your peers from pro-russian views , now the situation is definitely better, but then in 2014 it strongly influenced the views, which in turn already influenced the decision to join do you like to communicate with captured russians? yes, yes, i am interested. and don't you feel, despite everything, an influx of negativity, here and there, after several days of interrogating the russians, you don't want to go and hang out for two days? there is such a funny effect when you spend a lot of time with them, talk a lot, you get out of your information bubble into theirs, and you actually have to

move away from it a little bit, but over time you get used to it so that it... doesn't have a negative effect on you, how did you manage to get out of it in the first place? there are no special techniques and skills here, and it does not cause a particular depression or desire to drink for three days afterwards, you just never forget who is sitting in front of you, in front of you are enemies who could kill you at any moment, for what you were sitting behind murder, i can fully describe, the whole story, tell, the whole story, worked as an editor, cellular satellite antennas, there was a good income, it turns out, a friend asked me to borrow money from an acquaintance, one and a half million rubles, i borrowed it,

the terms of return were discussed. the deadlines passed while i was on a business trip, i returned from a business trip, i started to collect money, he started telling me that later, later, later, i specifically learned from a friend that he had money to give me, i was going to see him, arrived at his place, he was intoxicated and began to threaten me with a pistol, to wave, in the end it turned out in a shuffle so that i hit him with a knife in the oven. as a result, murder, i take my money, they attribute it to me, a robbery attack, here with the appearance of a chacha type of health, i suffered death, that is, two articles 105, part two and 162 part four, in the end, they

give me 20 years in the twenty-second year licheniya svovovayat, which they underwent changes already after the war continued, that is, the attitude of the russians fighting to the war, it is also not constant, it also underwent changes, and it is also interesting to show them, and to get to

the russian public, in particular, to make it think about what is happening here before it gets to the front. how did you get to the front from prison? representatives of the ministry of defense came, that is, through the administration , they did not personally summon us, but through the administration of the correctional colony, they told them that the administration had released us, made an offer that there is... the so -called special military operation will last six months and after six months leave the village we initially had a blank letter in the camp, we signed about non-disclosure, that is, about not

disclosing what was happening during a special military operation, not disclosing that we... once sat, er, then, when we were already brought to rostov to the airport, we signed a contract for six months, so we signed an agreement, such an agreement , in which it was written that after six months - you undertake to conclude another contract, so you are in a voluntary compulsory order, that is, do you want it or not?

all social benefits, all social guarantees, cancellation the term they served, and that their guilt before society is removed from them, that they are cleansed, they sign a contract with such desire, they are promised that they will sit somewhere on the third line or, well , they will be engaged in construction in the occupied territories, that is why they agree , that is why they agree, and which of their prisoners, this is the storm zeta, did not go to wagner , at first, because wagner did his advertising directly preparing them for war, they say that you will fight, you are stormtroopers, there is no such thing, they are

being fooled en masse, they are promised a back or something robots, they go for it, and when they come to war, they fall into a harsh reality, when they plug the most dangerous areas. trenches, they are not organized normally, they also cover the need for constant assaults on ukrainian positions. did you realize that you were used as cannon fodder? yes, it was a long time ago, even before the captivity, i understood that we were being used , even though it was such a long time and i stayed , as it were, even after school, i was on a lot of combat missions, i was only on one, which i was taken prisoner , but nevertheless because of how

went on combat missions with those with whom they came from our company, from other companies, from our battalion, and when they were sent, i already began to understand when they were sent to the very front, because it was the prisoners who were sent to... the same thing, well, there was something very close, that's when i realized that it was just annihilation, tell me the interesting stories of the prisoners who fell to you? i can remember, there was one, a russian officer, an officer in a private position, he was a senior lieutenant, and he was sent as an ordinary rifleman to rifleman they were transferred to snipers, and the fact that he is an officer, he probably did not have

very good qualities in front of the commanders, but that is not the point, he fled from his position after mobilization here in donbas nine times, has nine attempts to escape , in fact, many russians try to flee from the position, they catch them, an attempt to catch them at the checkpoint in the city and here he was caught nine times, he was thrown into a pit, this is one of such measures to fight against fugitives, they are starved in the pit for several days , they beat him with batons, they took him to boarding school, this is another such interesting, widespread way of fighting, they take them to the landing, there they are beaten and simulated shooting , they load a machine gun, put it to their head and say that they are going to shoot now, and then let them go and...' the combatant threw himself into a puddle,

and what is interesting, kombat was from the so-called dnr, they were russian mobilized, he threw them into a puddle, forced them to swim in puddles and shot from a machine gun into the ground, the most common response of the mobilized is that we were forced, caught and there was no way to escape, and they complain about how they are actually caught soldiers, somewhere they even remove people from armor to enterprises. someone had a case , an acquaintance turned in one mobilized from the far east, he had a girlfriend who worked in the army, she wrote to him one fine day on a day off: where are you? he tells her: "but i'm visiting my sister now, in an hour the army will come to the address, he will immediately be wheeled to the bus to the division's training ground, do

you hope for an exchange? well, i hope that after the exchange, they won't send me more here, called to inform relatives that their son was in this case was captured, and immediately several mothers answered that they could not recognize their son, that they could not tell. that this is their son, and one answered this phrase, she said, god gave, that is, she decided that her son died, and it was not her son, and the other prisoners spread this phrase among themselves, they were in such a shock, they a few days later discussed everything, they could not get away from the fact that the mother of another prisoner said that, and then the mother of another prisoner also said,

i don't know you, not my son, i can't explain it, where does it come from, russians mothers, this is really happening, they do not believe that their children are in captivity and they see them, and they literally disown them, i have no explanation for this, it strongly affects the decision of the russians to go to war, russian propaganda and narratives used by russian can so definitely their propaganda is strong and it has been processing their heads for many years , they are boiling in this information flow, they, they are formed in it, they form their wrong views, and many people come here and think, well, yes, here now there will be nato troops, nazis, literally all the prisoners know about it, they have all heard the propaganda, they

are told this even here in the units. but when they see the realities of the war, how cruel and terrible it really is, and what is happening in the occupied territories, they see these broken cities that they themselves destroyed, it begins to dawn on them that no one in particular was waiting for them, and no one brought them here called , about ukraine, that we had, well, on tv they showed that, according to rumors, probably there, someone, somewhere, on the internet, somewhere i read something about what is going on here - damn it, but the war is going on, peaceful citizens are being oppressed, peaceful cities are being bombed, the ukrainian military is being killed, and all this was shown on our television every day, that is, it was shown on the news, like our military, russian ones.

.. they are advancing, liberating the territory, that is, those who are bombarding, occupying the ukrainian military, who want to separate from ukraine, i asked if they believe at all that they can win, objectively, they have no faith in victory, they understand that nothing here won't be able to, and besides, they don't understand that it has already become a meme of the goal of the ji. such a phrase: they do not know the goals of the so-called svo, at home i will tell only the truth, that the war is to blame for russia, and it is attacking, this is not some non-special military operation, this is a full-scale war with ukraine, that russia is the aggressor in this war, it bombing peaceful territories, not liberating, as they say , the donetsk and luhansk regions, but bombing

territories to the west. there is the kiev region, where the average inhabitants have nothing at all повынные, 19:00 in ukraine, to your attention, a news broadcast on tv channel in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all viewers. a meeting of advisers to state leaders on issues of national security and foreign policy regarding the ukrainian peace formula is underway in malta. according to the information of the head of the president's office, andriy yermak , representatives of 65 countries representing the west and the global south have arrived. the netherlands became the sixth country after the usa , great britain, canada, japan and france, with which.